Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is Rays rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards from deep in the heart of Texas, the town of 30,000. He comes in and steals one from the australian. Let's go.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Hell yeah. RFK, baby.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: If I clip my mic on that one, I don't give a shit, man. Texas got us a win yesterday. I'm drinking a margarita for the podcast.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: That wasn't too loud. Actually, that wasn't very loud at all.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah. Well, Burrell won't have to worry about getting his eardrums blown off when we do that.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah, great. I'm glad me and you sat at lunch one of the days. We were working this weekend and I told you word for word that Chris Buscher was a lock bet for a top ten. And you put the bet down right at that exact.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: I put the bet down at the table, like the moment that you said that. Because I hadn't even thought about that.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: I should have just said he was a lock winner.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't imagine what I would have made on him for a top five because he was plus 110 for a ten and got that.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: It was, yes, plus 110. And then I saw probably like five posts this morning of people that also had Busher. I haven't seen a single person that posted Bush or as a winning ticket, but I've seen, I think I said I saw five that posted Bush or the top ten plus 110 bet. So, like, there was some people that put like $100 down and one so, you know, like more than doubled your money.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: That's freaking nuts, man.
Gotta love that.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Best on a road course. I mean, he, I mean, he just is like, yeah, and the next generator, next genera. Yeah, he's just really, really consistent at these road courses. Like, all of them.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: Absolutely. And now he's got the wind to back it up. So that's just going to put him in the conversation at every single road course.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: And any more conversation we can get around an RFK driver. I'm so here for that.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: I was really loving on the teardown. I listened to the tear down the day while I was mowing grass. And that's the one with Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi. And they, one of them was talking about how they've been like, talking to Kevin Harvick and some other people and it's just kind of like, Chris Bush is like criminally underrated. Like the. He is everybody that they were talking about, like the different drivers and stuff, talks about how, like, Chris Buscher is like one of the most talented drivers out there. But the best part is he's not like at a certain track, he's just kind of really consistent and really good and a top ten guy, like everywhere.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. And I think the only reason he doesn't get that recognition is because he's not the most flamboyant or boisterous person on the, in the garage.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Totally.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: They're always looking for those sound bites and that stuff. And, I mean, he kind of put himself out there a little bit earlier this year. Whenever he had those two runner up or those two finishes back to back one with Tyler, Reddit got him out of.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: And then the larger one.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: Was it Larson? Yeah. And so it was just one of those things where it's like right there in that moment, he was like, in the conversation, he was getting close to winning all these races. And then I think it's the missing the playoffs thing. Like he needed this win bad this year just for that little bit of confidence being like, yeah, we can still come out here and win races. It's not that we're slacking.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: And I still remember, it was awesome to see it.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: I still remember 1012 years ago when I was in high school before Chris Buscher goes to front row and front row is not doing great and all the, all the things he's done in cup to get here, it's just awesome because I still remember back when the Bush series was all cup drivers and Chris Buscher used to win every weekend and won championships and just kicked ass and everyone was on his, just, you know, a guy that comes up now, I don't have an example, just someone that comes up and it's like, oh, my God, this is the guy. You know, this is the guy. Whatever. That was Chris busher 1012 years ago in like 20 12, 20 13, 20 14. Yeah, he was that guy.
And at the time he was at the, you know, if you're in, if you're in the Bush series, then going to Roush, you're like, man, I am just shitting in hot cotton. And then.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: And then we all know, like the whole roush situation and everything that's happened over the last, you know, 15 years, but he just was caught. He just got it just all his cup career happened at a weird time. And then now it's like he's like getting repaid for being the loyal, consistent, awesome driver that he is, in my opinion.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Absolutely, man. And now he's finally getting at least one, if not multiple wins per year. I love that, but make it like two. Or is this two or three years in a row now that he's had a win in the season? Was this the last two, three?
[00:04:52] Speaker B: He's got five wins.
They. He is top ten in wins in the next genera. He is in like 8th, I believe they said.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: Hell yeah.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: That gets him at either five or six wins total.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause he had that one pocono when that was rain shortened and I can't remember what else.
[00:05:11] Speaker B: That doesn't count in the next gen thing.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: Yeah, not in the next Gen.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: He's got like five.
He had. This is his fifth next gen race and I think six total. You had the season that you had three. The season before that he had one, and then this was number one.
[00:05:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: So I love it. Yeah.
[00:05:29] Speaker A: I become more a fan of his every time I see more stuff coming his across the, uh, across Instagram and stuff.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: RFK does a great job of putting their drivers out there, so I.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: Excuse me. I'm also a big Chris Busher. I mean, as everybody knows me and you, RFK, we're big RFK fans. And.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Just in general, Brandon seemed like he was pretty damn excited about it yesterday.
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: When you texted him. And I text him a little bit later whenever I finally got a chance. But he seemed like he was pretty.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Stoked about it, as he should be.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: After a day like that.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: God dang. Yeah. And especially with the way that the win happened, it was against the one guy that everybody considered the favorite to win the race, to the point where he was like, plus 500 and goes out there and just flat out outraces him on those last two laps. Just first he gets passed, and then he just manages to hold it together, doesn't lose his head, and gets him in that bus stop when he overdrives it in there.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: So I couldn't believe that SBG made that mistake, but he was just.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: I know.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah. I loved his interview, though, because.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Oh, me too. Yeah.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just. I really am. I love SVG, too. Like, I'm just a big fan of that dude. And he was, like, kind of talking about the NASCAR way, you know, and, like, bumping and he's just, he's never been brought up, the whole bumping and banging and what makes NASCAR NASCAR? And he was like, you know, I had to get away. I had to go as fast as I could because I knew if Bush or got back to me, you know, he was going to give me the bumper and, yeah, that's, you know, in return. What caused him to, you know, kind of mess? The bump stop up or the bus stop up there pretty bad and then just overdrive. Yeah, Buscher was just there and, yeah, it wasn't that. Busher even made a.
If you just look at it coming from the front view, you might be like, yeah, Buscher gave him the bumper, or say something around that. But if you look at his onboard camera, the way his car goes so far to the right and then so far back to the left, busher is just there. Like, he's just. He never changes anything. He is just right on his bumper when he comes back across. Like, it just. They just made contact in a racing deal. It wasn't like Bush was just aggressive. He was just hit the bus stop perfect. And was just there.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: At the right spot.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: It was awesome, man. I was in there just hooting and hollering the whole last lap because it finally comes down, he gets that pass made, and I'm like, damn it, he's got him. He's got him. Like, I'm okay with either of them winning, but obviously, being a Texan, I gotta go for my guy.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: And whenever he got past, damn it. And then all of a sudden, the bus stop came, and Allison heard me all the way in the back bedroom screaming, oh, my God, I can't believe he got him back.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I couldn't believe.
Not that I couldn't believe, but it's been a long time since I was, like, watching two dudes go for the win that I'm like, I am great with whatever this happens. If either one of these guys first, and then, you know, at the end, I really thought I was like, he's going to come back to him. And then he got loose on that last corner, and I was like, well, that's it. Butchers got it. So.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Yep, it was just got it, man.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: It was awesome. It was a great last lap.
Me and you have talked. I thought it was a great race all the way around. I mean, yes, the bar is pretty low for road course racing. I'm not saying it's. It was the greatest road course race I've ever seen, by any means which. That's. It obviously wasn't that, but just for next gen era stuff, that was. That was probably my favorite one all the way around.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: There was finally passing. There was finally reason to pit in a different strategy than just flipping the stage or staying out for points. It gave you a little bit of variety. And to the point where I even told you right before we started this up. I said that, uh, I. It was like you almost couldn't follow pitch strategy for any. For the whole field, because every driver was on its own individual strategy in some way, shape or form. And it was honestly, like, confusing trying to watch the race, but in the greatest possible way, because everybody had to try something different to do something for their race. And it ended up with a finishing order that was just absolutely bonkers for the top ten and everything else out underneath it. Plus all the trouble that you had for your playoff drivers. I mean, there was just something for everybody in that race. I feel like I was a huge fan of it. I haven't seen the Jeff Gluck pole, but I'd hope that it was a good race.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: It was 81%.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Solid for a road course, which is freaking goat, which is.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Probably going to be at the top of the list for road courses since 2022.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, without a doubt.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah, that was a.
The tire fall off was not, you know, three to 6 seconds like everybody said, but it was enough to just make somewhat of a difference. Just like when you saw Chastain, you know, and then Busher takes him back over and just. There's just certain things through the race and then. Yeah, I know there was guys talking about getting in the back, but I'm just going to say this. The guys that got in the back, they might have been those cars that were just up front because they were up front, and once they got in the back, they couldn't get back there because cars like Legano, SVG Bush or Chastain, all those guys had their strategy screwed up at different points in the race and they went back and then they came back. So that would be my argument for some of those guys like that, you know, that just could. That said, they were in the back the whole time. And, you know, Ty Gibbs, which I agree with Ty Gibbs on bringing back 900 hp, but he was mad, you know, just certain stuff like that. I just, you know. Yeah, I still think.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: I mean, at the end of the day, I couldn't agree with you more that the tires didn't do enough. I thought they did. They did. They did something. You're very right. But if it wasn't for the fact that like an alternate pit stop happened, you would never notice that the person in front of you was just over driving their cardinal to stay ahead of you. Because I never really felt like anybody had unequal tire weird based off of how well they managed their car. So that was the one thing that was kind of driving me nuts about it.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: Was.
[00:11:46] Speaker A: If you hadn't told me that there was different tires on the car, I wouldn't have known.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: That there was a possibility of tire fall off if you overdrive them, because I felt like no one ever got to the point where they really did overdrive their tires to the point they were wore out. The only time I ever saw them actually wear out was whenever they were, like, 50 laps old and it was just time for a new set of shoes. So that was the one thing that was kind of getting on my nerves about the whole thing is like, man, I got. I feel like we got led up to this so much, and it just really wasn't the greatest thing in the world, like we were anticipating it was supposed to be. So it just was what it was. But at least it did give that alternative strategy something to stand on. So you're not just pitting and then getting stuck in the back of the pack, you're pitting, getting stuck in the back of the pack with a bunch of people with older tires. So you can actually make those moves and passes and make it worth it. But I still think it took a good car to make it happen because the fall off wasn't. Yeah, like you said, enough for that difference in speed to just mean easy passes in all the passing zones.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it just. It was like the cars that had that elite speed, which was those couple four or five there that we were talking about, or just, you know, svg being like an elite driver. I mean, in all honesty, SVG could probably take Rick ware car. Well, Rick Ware is doing pretty good. I mean, colleague has just looked awful all year, but when he's in those cars, at those tracks, he runs great. You know, like. Yeah, imagine he was talking about how the car had no speed, just like, wasn't a good car. And look what he did.
[00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: You know, like, imagine he was saying, what was that?
[00:13:23] Speaker A: No straight line speed.
[00:13:24] Speaker B: No, he said no horsepower, no straight line speed. He couldn't get off the corners. Like, you know, stuff like that. And it just still cracks me up because I still remember in our pre race preseason Thunder episode we did.
We talked so highly of colleague racing in about January of this year and all the way down from the Bush Xfinity series to cup series and just everything they've been a part of, even with this whole track house deal and stuff. If it wasn't for SVG, literally, if it wasn't for SVG, winning races at road courses, colleague would be.
I don't even know what, but it's just been a bad year all the way around for those guys. All of them except SVG, because he is just a, just a generational talent and road course racer. It just blows my mind really, watching him race a race car, especially the road course. And I'm just like, just like we.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: Were talking about over this weekend. It's amazing what he's been able to do with his oval, uh, track record, too. I mean, every, like everybody always says whenever they see him get out on the track for an oval, he said he spends the first stage learning how to drive it. He spends the second stage figuring out how to pass, and he spends the third stage putting it all together.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: And like, really making a move towards the end. So I just can't even imagine what it's going to turn into when you give him two to three years in the cup series. Because just like any, any rookie, it always drives me crazy how much people like to look at rookies and be like, oh, yeah, they're going to go out there and they're going to kick ass. And it's like, nah, they may have one or two good races, but for the most part, they're going to run in like 10th to 15th while they figure it out. Maybe have some moments in the top five here and there. But I'd love to see what would happen with him or what will happen with him when he finally gets the opportunity next year. Get him in the cup series, watch him kind of grow and see where he ends up points wise and see if he can improve on that year after year.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:22] Speaker A: Because the way that he's already improved, I think it's totally possible he ends up being at least, at least a round of eight driver.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: By his second year, and I mean.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: I am with Jordan, Miyake was like, he said this, he was like, I would put any number, amount that, that svgs in the playoffs next year. And I could not agree more. Like, oh, yeah, he's gonna win a road course race next year. I mean, there's freaking, what, seven, six or seven of them like, and most of them all but one or two come before the playoffs. And then you have this set up now with, with tracks like this and the roval that are still around next year.
I'm right there with you. I mean, he's going to do well because, because they have, and I feel like I'm just quoting everything they said, but they made some really good points that I really liked. And it was talking about how, like, back in the day, man, back in the day it was just all mile and a half tracks. And honestly, in this car, nascar be a lot better if it was a lot more mile and a half tracks, but it's just not exactly like that anymore. And if you are a specialty driver, you're probably not going to win championships. But you can make your team like saying you're like exceptional at short tracks or exceptional at super speedways or exceptional at my. Whatever it is, rope course. Whatever it is, you can take your guys on a pretty solid little playoff run and make your team a pretty solid little check at the end of the year just by being a badass six weeks out of the year, seven weeks out of the year. And I was like without a doubt a great point and I never thought.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: About it that way, but that is a great point.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: Yeah, that's, that's what I was thinking, too. So that's like I really do see exactly what you said. Like he is going to be, I really do think just the way the playoffs are, he's going to be a top ten in points kind of guy. Even next year. I really think even next year, just the way the schedule lays out with road courses, he is going to be a top ten kind of guy because if he just racks up a couple wins, literally just a couple and then runs great at the other ones, get stage points. Like we've already seen what that could do. Even this year with, with so many winners, you got guys like, I mean the most wins is only four, you know, and the other three, two, whatever, he goes out and busts out two, play two row course wins, he wins a couple stages, he's going to be sitting at freaking just say average fourth or fifth and points and then that re racks every time and then you go to the roval and like he's going to do well there. So I don't know. I'm not saying he's a freaking going to be a champion by no means. I'm just saying he's going to do well in the way new agent NASCAR is because of road horses.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: Well, you're very right. Even looking at his xfinity. Yes, and looking at just his xfinity stats for this year when he just got into these cars for the very first time, he's figuring them all out. He's ranked right now 12th and driver points, like regular season points. He's ranked twelve, which would have gotten him into the playoffs on a point basis if he hadn't gotten those wins he already had. So he's up there sitting in third right now.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: He's got all these playoff points built up and you start off with, where's their playoffs start? Here they go. Kansas, Talladega, and then the roval. So he's got an autumn. He's got a very strong track in there already.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: Then you take him to the next week and it's going to be a little bit more, or the next round, and it's going to be a little bit more of an equalizer for him because it's two mile and a halves and a short track. But even still, I mean, that puts him within four races of a championship race in the Xfinity Series in his first year racing over tracks that says a ton. Most, most of it's just because of the way, like, you were just talking about. The tracks are so balanced right now to where different drivers with different specialties can come into our sport and compete against the other best drivers in the world and know that they don't just have to be an oval short track racer. They don't just have to be a high speed super speedway racer like old school NASCAR. Nowadays, you can be good at anything and make a case for yourself to be in that championship round.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: Which is a wild direction that we've found our way into but has created this situation that we're in right now. It gives us something to talk about.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Because then on the exact opposite side of that, if you, if you had, like, back in the day, usually about where your average finish was, is about where you were in points, if you had that today, you'd be sitting here, we'd be sitting here talking about Chris Buscher being a third to fourth in points right now. And you'd have, you know, you. I know every year it's not like this, but, and I know the way they race now is different. So it's just, it's kind of apples and oranges, but I still kind of, like, bringing it up.
But there's a guy that posts the, like, uses the old point system for, like, what it is now. And, like, dude, the top four guys are, like, separated within, like, a hundred points. And then, you know, back in the day, you could also get like, 180 points a race, you know, so, like, I. 100 points is, like, really close. It's not like 100 points now.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:20:29] Speaker B: And nothing. It's, like, funny that this season specifically is, I'm talking on the cup side, but this season specifically has come down to, like, what could be a really, what could have been a really cool four way kind of thing that just happened naturally, you know?
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. But.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: But, yeah, I mean, like you said, it's just a weird way and it just is what it is, and it's just. Nothing's going to change. So it's either get used to it and enjoy it or, you know, watch badminton on Sundays or something.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: I don't know that. Damn straight.
So outside of that, we had.
God dang. I want to say there was only two playoff drivers that even finished in the top ten yesterday.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: Oh, great.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Chase Briscoe.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: And, yeah, he got.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: He got six. And then whoever finished in 10th, I believe Austin Cendrick was the other one.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: This is the first time since there was two stats to go with this, but since they started this whole elimination and all this stuff, so it was like 2014, and there's another stat going back all the way to zero four to the chase. There has never been a race. Now we're talking about this whole period of time. There's never been a race in the playoffs that at least one playoff driver did not finish in the top five ever.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: This is the first time you said first time ever.
Wow. Even I just don't understand what the. What the hell was going on out there. Everybody was racing like a bunch of dick wads.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it was just a. I mean, that first wreck got, you know, got a few guys and, uh. Yeah, I mean, there's just just crazy stuff happening all day, which I enjoyed. You know, I enjoy all the craziness and whatnot, but, like, I even like Brad Keselowski. Like, they. That dude had. He had. He got involved in about three wrecks. He had a tire penalty on pit road. He had a speeding penalty on pit road. And at the end, before that final wreck was all the way back up into the top ten and then get screwed again. Like, he. He literally.
I would love to see a graph of how the day went because it.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: Literally was just his position at the time.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Yes, it would have been crazy to see a graph of Brad Keselowski today specifically. And they needed at points. They were. They were way in because, I mean, they were having, you know, there was. They had.
If he would. Had a clean, smooth day, Keselowski would have freaking been a possibly if he said in his interview he thinks he had a top five car, if everything would have just went smooth and normal and even to get back to where he was at, like 10th or 11th there at the strategy at the end, before he got wiped out again, he, like, they. He, like, that's the car I'm talking about, too, that we should include that could pass. Like he proved that you could pass like a car. Like he had that exceptional speed of the day where he could go, you know, kick some ass and make some things happen. And, uh, man, they needed a good day so bad. And it just did.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: They really did. It was Hillary there.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: And I think they're now still sitting at like twelve or 14 out, which is not. I mean, he can go hit me. He can race Bristol. He's, he's one at Bristol. Like, I don't see him, especially with.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: This new, this tire. He was one of the three guys. I was actually able to make it work. The longest and minus twelve right now.
[00:23:53] Speaker B: Buscher has won at Bristol since he's been at RFK. So, like, they, they have some notes and some things and such. So I'm not, I'm not counting Brad K. Out, really.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: I agree with that wholeheartedly. I wouldn't either.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: In all honesty. I don't know if you can really count out anybody except probably Harrison Burton.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, sitting at -20 going to a track that they haven't shown speed at in a very long time, and that win isn't going to really benefit them till like next year. I really don't think you see anything out of him. I think he's our easy one to say is going to get eliminated after next Sunday's race.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: And what you have Truex, Hamlin, Keselowski or the other three.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Correct sitting -14 minus twelve and minus six, respectively.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: You got to go, you got to look, that was the top three in that race that you were just talking about. That was one, two, three.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Absolutely. Man, that, what a weird thing to have happen.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:48] Speaker A: So have the best three at the last time they raced here and any one of those gets in a wreck, they're done.
[00:24:53] Speaker B: They're done. Yes. But any one of those goes out and has a great day, they're okay. Like, I know some other things got to happen, but, like the attrition at Bristol, you can get caught up in somebody else's stuff quick and if you get around it and a couple of those guys mess up or those guys go out and get stage points all day and then round out, you know, the top, top ten, top eight, they're going to be sitting all right, probably. You know, I mean, that's. I just, I don't know.
[00:25:18] Speaker A: It's, it's going exactly it. The key for these guys is genuinely Saturday qualifier. I guess it's a night race on Saturday. So Friday qualifying, you've got to make sure that you qualify well. So that way, any craziness that happens at the very beginning of the race, just like happened this weekend, you're out in front of it. Because any of those four guys starts off anywhere lower than 15th place, they are asking for being into a wreck. I mean, it's just too much going on there with this old, new tire thing we have going on.
A next gen car that can't save itself, to save its life. You're just. You're asking for trouble if you don't go out there and qualify.
[00:25:59] Speaker B: Like, yeah, I'm right there with you. And just Saturday just has potential to be absolutely nuts. All from this point standpoint, like, being the cutoff race, not race at Bristol.
Tempers flaring. Like, it just has that. Like, I'm very, very, very excited for it.
[00:26:21] Speaker A: Like, it's had an electric field the last, like three years it's been ran.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And if this tire, if it doesn't.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: End up with a good race, it was an electric field.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And with the tire situation and the unknowns, and they even tested this tire in 90 degree weather, and it still wears out. So they don't really know what's going on with the tire. So it's gonna be awesome. And I'm excited because of. I'm excited because three of the guys that are out are three of the best there that could really go put on a show and make something happen.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: All of them have wins there. Denny Hamlin has multiple Denny Hamlin's won.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: The last two or three at Bristol, which is crazy, but it's going to be.
It's just going to be awesome. Really is going to be awesome.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: So who. Who else would you think would get eliminated? I mean, obviously we're calling Harrison Burton out. I have a feeling it's going to be one of those three guys that gets knocked out of this round because there's only Ty Gibbs and Chase Briscoe.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: That are close enough. Without William Byron or Kyle, Kyle Larson or Ryan Blaney. Any of those three guys gets wrecked before the end of stage one. That may change things. Only if all three of those guys are running in the top ten.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: All day long and getting stage points and then finish up there.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: So this is what blows me away. I would have told you Austin Cendrick was out of this bitch first round, no questions asked. But he is sitting, like, third right now.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: Third.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: And he's like 45 or more like he is him and Bell and those guys, they're like a okay. I really do think they are a okay. And that is crazy.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: And just even I think Daniel Suarez is pretty much a okay. As long as he can get through, like, stage one and stage two, I think he's fine.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: What is he plus? Cause I was going to bring him up plus 36. Yeah, see, I think over. Over plus 30 is kind of my number where I'm like, yeah. Feeling pretty good about myself. Now it's under 30 where you're talking about, like, William Byron, Larson, Gibbs, you know, Briscoe being right there. Like, those are the guys that are like. And I think Briscoe and Ty Gibbs are actually tied, like, exactly the same number.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Plus six. Yep.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: That's where it's like, dude, anything could happen to any of those guys and it could be bad. Now. Now, here's to say, if Daniel Suarez, or even one of these guys, goes out and blows a tire in the first stage and cannot get stage points or anything, that's a different story on that over 30 plus 30 thing, because then you're really screwed. Like your true ex, Darlington. Like, I literally had told dad before that race started. I mean, the race is like starting a green flag. And I was like, as long as Truex doesn't wreck in the first 1st stage, he's locked in and he goes out and wrecks on, like, lap one or two. And I was like. I was like, oh, my God, I cannot believe this just happened. So, as long as they don't have one of those true x situations, like, they're probably going to be all right, but you just know it. Bristol. Something's going to happen.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: Like, something always happens.
[00:29:21] Speaker B: Something's going to happen. So I just don't know. I mean, I don't know. Those guys, like, our two favorite drivers are kind of right there in the middle of all that, you know? Too.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: Like, it's true, Blainey. I feel at least good enough about it that I think that I know Kyle can go out there and, yeah, get himself qualified up far enough up front that he won't have to worry about getting caught up in a wreck. I'm not really that worried about Kyle Larson. I'm not really that worried about Ryan Blaney, either. I feel like you're going to say something a little different.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: No, I was.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: I think Laney goes out there and has a. As long as he has a solid qualifying ends up 15th or up, I think he'll be fine.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Laney just needs to go to bed at night and be like, thank God for Atlanta, because that saves for real. Same. Well, not even for Austin Cendrick. Austin Centric had a great Atlanta and ran great yesterday. And also props to Briscoe. He ran in the top five all day long yesterday, and that pulled him out from -90 -21 or something like that. When everyone lasts. Yeah, he's. He's dead last. Oh, it's a must win. It's a must win. And then boom, he takes himself out. Boom. Right here. He's back in the game. So, like, there were some of those guys that really did great yesterday that I just, like, want to give some props to and this.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Just couldn't agree more.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: You just never know. And like I said, I would have told you, like, Suarez, Cedric, Burton, and then I don't really know who my fourth one would have been, but, like, those three guys I would have said are out. And now you have, like, Cedric and Suarez that are, like, looking pretty good to make it through this first round. And I'm like, it's just kind of crazy.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: Would have thought.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: Who would have thought?
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Who would have thought?
[00:30:55] Speaker B: No one.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: I think without a doubt you're ahead. It's going to be Briscoe is the one I am the most worried about. That is above the cut line, because even Ty Gibbs, it's tied with him. Ties running in the same equipment that those other two guys that need to leapfrog him are running in. So he at least has an even playing field with them. With a six point advantage, Briscoe, I feel like that six point advantage counts for something, but I feel like he has a minus, at least ten disadvantage. Cause if you just think you're running average in the top ten for stage one and stage two, that would get you five points for each stage, you'd have ten points extra that. I just don't know if I see Chase Briscoe having that kind of result in the stages, but I could definitely see Hamlin, Kez and Truex all running in the top ten all day, getting some of that average of points all day long that Briscoe, I feel like, will miss out on. That's the one thing that worries me about him, is I feel like he's going to be the one that's got to fight the hardest to get as much as he possibly can, even though he's probably going to get the least number of points of those guys.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: My. I want to say one thing about Cendrick, though. Like, who would have bet? Like, who would have thought, even outside of him, getting that win when Blaney runs out of gas and then bail. Whatever all happened there, who would have thought? Austin Cendrick goes out and has two of his absolute best points days of the whole entire season, the first two races of the playoffs that just set that man up. Plus green money. It looking pretty going in the second round. Like who, like, what were the odds of that? Have his two best points days of the year being those two races? Like, that's crazy.
[00:32:34] Speaker A: I don't know, but that is nuts. I mean, that just, that right there says to me that the team finally just said, look, Cedric, you need all the help you can get. Here's a couple setup ideas. Here's a couple of this, here's a couple of that. But then he goes out there and he takes them and he performs with him like I am with you. I don't know.
[00:32:52] Speaker B: I've been mind where the hell that yesterday I was just thinking about. I was like, dude centric running top five like this whole race and just, just killing them right now and all.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: I just want to see Austin Cendrick at Bristol where he normally would rank there.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: That's one thing I'm curious on.
Where's driver averages?
[00:33:16] Speaker B: Here we go. Look, where does Suarez run at Bristol? I don't know. I can't think of any, like, Bristol moments with Suarez, honestly.
[00:33:24] Speaker A: So Austin Cendrick at Bristol since 2022 and only counting concrete races.
So there's only three races to go by. You're talking a starting position of 21st, 29th, and 9th, and finishing position of 31, 32, and 20. So dude has one top 20 ever. And that was 20th place back in September 2022.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: But see, I think Cedric is so good on points that he. If he, if he goes out and runs 20th, he's making it to the next round.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: I think so, too. Yeah, just with this points cushion that.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: He'S got built up, like with 43.
Atlanta, as long as he doesn't wreck in the first round, is he goes out and just gets points and finish 20th, he's going to go get 20 points, you know, and the way I.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Look at it, you're talking like, so Denny being the first one over the cut line. Denny goes out and he runs first in both stages. He'll get eleven points for each stage if you include that playoff point in there. So he's got 22 points. That still leaves him at a 21 point deficit to Austin Cendrick. So we'd have to beat him by like 22 positions with winning both of the stages to not Austin Cendrick off his high horse.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: So.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I think as long as he goes, oh, yeah, as long as.
[00:34:49] Speaker B: I want to see fine.
And that's. You got to look at this, too. Every single since this started, you got to look at this like a three race season. Like, I ain't even worried about next week. I got to figure out what I got to do to make it pass here today, you know, kind of thing. And, like, with Cedric having two incredible races, the first two, and then this one. Boom, there he is. And, like, I'm just, you know, I think that he's good.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Suarez, since 2022, finished 19th. 2022, 2023 finished in 21st. And 2024 earlier this year, he finished in 18.
So another one that's got some. He's a little bit more consistently in the top 20, but it. We're talking 18th, 19th and 21st.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: So two guys that are just right there with each other at the exact same position, plus 36. I mean, you're still going to have to have. Yeah, he's. Plus 36.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: Plus 36 running 20th. He's probably still going to be.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he'd have to. He'd have to get no points in both stages and then finish outside of the top 20. Yeah, he, for that really make a difference.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Like, did this perfectly. It to, like, get up there on your, your strengths, like. Cause even Suarez came back after going gravel dirt roading yesterday. He still came back and had a good finish. So, like.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: Yes, he did.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: They did good to give themselves this buffer going into a track that, like, maybe, you know, we run 20th at or, you know, worse. Whatever. Like, that's what you got to do. You got to put all your eggs. When you look at these three race series, these three race seasons here at the end, you got to put all your basket, all your eggs into whatever basket is going to get you at your best spot of those three.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Absolutely.
And you're talking going into a round with Kansas Talladega and Charlotte Roville.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that one's crazy.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Talladega right there alone could make or break your entire season. I mean, look at Ryan Blaney last year. That can make or break your entire season, which is another opportunity for the two car, another opportunity for the 99 car to keep on doing what they're doing and shocking everybody well by making it through. That's the hard part about the playoff format that we have is it's not solely a skill based game anymore. It also has to do with a.
[00:37:18] Speaker B: Lot of luck, it's a number and.
[00:37:19] Speaker A: Has to do a lot. It's kind of like a NFL teams trying to make the playoffs at the end of the year when they start looking at it, okay, if Green Bay loses and Michigan wins, and these guys lose, and these guys win, and these guys will make it into the playoffs, and it's like, you can go out there and do your best this one race, but really, it's a whole season's worth of everyone's results, all accumulated, all coming together at the very end to decide whether you make it or not.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: And that's the thing, too. And we're talking, like, hypothetically here, but this next round, Cedric, I'm. I would put money down. Cedric makes. Cendric's going to the next round. Okay. Probably, yeah. Kansas. We can go through these three races here. Kansas has been the best next gen track since next generation racing started. There's Rex, there's attrition. There's crazy shit that happens, and the finishes and the run. Everything about it has been incredible.
Say he has just a mediocre, normal day there. Okay? Say he goes to Talladega like he's done at all these other plate tracks all year. He goes there, gets stage points, runs well, sets him up. Then you go to a road course, which also leans into his favor. I'm not saying he's great at the robo. I don't know his robo numbers, but he is better at road courses than he is at other tracks. So, like, there's two more situations right there where Cendrick could find his way into the top eight when probably 99% of everyone assumed he was out of this.
[00:38:48] Speaker A: And, like, although I will put a wet blanket on it, that Austin Shendricks last three finishes at Kansas were 37, 31st, and 31st.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. He's going to have that dude. And then you have a chance to redeem yourself with Daga and the robo.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's like, that's the hard part about it, is you can look at a three race series and say, we have one of these races that we're not good at.
Well, I don't know what to tell you, man. Get good because it's okay in the round of 16 when you have a points buffer to have a bad race, which he has set himself up now for. He could have a bad race at Bristol, and he's fine. But as soon as you cross that threshold, it's the give and take of the playoffs. Denny Hamlin may be outside of the window right now, but the moment that that next race happens, and he somehow makes it. He's back on top of the world like Truex last year.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: They're always going to get back up to the top, and you're always going to be thrown back to the bottom.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:42] Speaker A: You don't have the playoff points or the ability to give yourself bad races until you've had two really good races and you can have a gimme on the third.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: And Denny, who knows what Denny is going to do at Talladega if he makes it. I mean, is he going to run dead last? I mean, was he going to ride.
[00:39:59] Speaker A: In the fricking back?
[00:40:02] Speaker B: It's just like those. And then that window does close. Like, when you get to that final, those final five races of the year, there's. There's really no. You have one bad race. Like, Denny has great races. He's leading it. Homestead, boom, steering blows out. He's out. Like, once you get into those last three, like, okay, like we're saying, the first round, two goods, one bad. All right. Second round, you're probably good. With two goods, one bad, you're probably still okay. If you have two, like, two great races like Cendrick has had.
[00:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: Next round, though, it's pretty much all three gotta be great races. And that's where the cream rises to the top. With, like, your last year with Blaney's, your Larson's, your bells. Like, that's where those guys, like, have great races. Now, we can also talk about Christopher Bell. He hasn't done much recently, but Christopher Bell. The freaking playoffs line up perfect for Christopher Bell. So I could see him ended up doing great at the end again and making the final four again, like he's done the last two seasons.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Cause he's still sitting all the way up top of the playoff leaderboard. The only reason he's not in front of Logano is because that lack of a win. But, I mean, that's the weird part about Christopher Bell, man, is he's the quietest. He's like, even Chase Elliott this year has been exactly what Christopher Bell is every year. A guy that's going to run between 10th and third all year long, have a great, average finish, always get really good points, may come out and skunk him on a race here and there occasionally, but you're just not going to talk about him much because he's always there, but he's never doing anything. Just riding there. Riding real good, but riding there.
[00:41:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: Which is just the wildest thing. And now here we go. When we get into the playoffs and he's like a superhero, but, and he's sitting at the top of the leaderboard again. I could easily see him making the final four all over again.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: And it also is because, too, just like you said, when these things reset, he's going back to the top each time, you know, because he had a, the guys like Larson and Reddick and Bale and Hamlin, like those guys got all those playoff points. Well, Hamlin got half of his taken away so maybe take him out of that. But Larson, Reddick and bail, they're going to go right back to one, two and three as soon as tomorrow is over. Granted, they all make it. Not tomorrow, the sun, Saturday night. And if they all make it but like once they're going to go right back to one, two and three. Now you're going to go to Kansas where Reddick, Larson and Bell are going to kick ass. You're going to go to the Talladega where literally anything could happen and then you hit the roval. I think all three of those guys could go out and win the roval.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: And then they go right back to the top again. So it's just, I don't know, playoffs crazy, man. It just is what it is. Playoffs are crazy.
[00:42:52] Speaker A: They really are. Especially with the way that we run. Playoffs, man. It's just a, it's a wild thing. Every round is its own series. Every series is its own nightmare for every single driver for different reasons. Yeah, and it's just always that way. So you can sit there and watch your driver and you're gonna have a completely different playoff experience and someone sitting right next to you cheering for a different driver. Yeah, it's just a completely wild way that we run it and sometimes it sucks and sometimes it's amazing and it's just, it just is what it is. And complain. We may complain about it a lot, but it's still a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, and I still love that. I love that fact.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the biggest thing. Like, it is crazy at the end of these things and, you know, I just still, I just don't want to have like an undeserving champion at the end of all this. But like, hey, if it happens, it happens, you know?
[00:43:46] Speaker A: Absolutely. And I just feel like we've had a lot of luck never having any undeserving champions in the cup series specifically. Yeah, I can't say the same for the truck series and the Xfinity series, but cup series in specific always gives you the champion that you can find reason to say, yeah, they earned that. They really worked their ass off and they made that happen.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: So coming around to Bristol, just looking at it, at its face, taking the playoff implications out of it, who is. Who do you think is your favorite to win this race?
[00:44:27] Speaker B: He's gonna have a number eleven on the side of his car, and it's probably gonna be purple or teal or black and red and black, black and red with torch clips.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: If he doesn't come out there and do a bunch of dumb ass shit like he has the last two weeks.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the thing. But if you just go straight off of what Bristol's been and what Denny has been at Bristol, it's just kind of hard to go against the fellow, honestly. It's true. Like, you know, I don't know. It's crazy. It's crazy to me that I could sit here and genuinely tell you that I would, could, would, and could put money on those three guys that are out of the playoffs right now to go out and win this race. I am not shitting you when I say that. Like, I believe that wholeheartedly.
[00:45:14] Speaker A: It's so true. I mean, just reading off Denny's last few races at Bristol, 1st, 1st, 9th, 9th, 21st, 5th, that's going back to 2020.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: How about 21st? But even before then, I guarantee you 21st was a dirt race.
[00:45:31] Speaker A: Uh, no, it was a. It was a September race. This is only counting, uh, concrete ones.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: He was running that day, but he started in 7th, so who knows? It could have been a pitch, strategy or something.
But either way, I mean, those are phenomenal stats. You're talking a guy that's got an average finish of like seven.
[00:45:48] Speaker B: They say by the numbers. According to what I've read the day and when I was listening to by the numbers, Bristol is Denny's best track by, like a long shot on his average. Finishes, polls, finishes, top all the things, so.
[00:46:03] Speaker A: Damn sword on every wall of his house.
[00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's why, like, if you're. If you're. And here again, anything can happen, but if you're just going off of what it is and you're minus two and you're Denny Hamlin going to Bristol, you're probably like, yeah, we're going to go win this pitch because we're Denny Hamlin and I have Chris gay part on the toolbox and my owners, Joe Gibbs, and we're going to go out and unload fast as shit.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: And so that's the only thing that.
[00:46:29] Speaker A: Makes it a little bit more even is the fact that he's got two teammates of his that desperately need to go out there and run really well as well and Ty Gibbs and Martin Trix, because. Yeah, I think he's flanked on either end. I think all three of those guys are like one, two, three in the playoff rankings.
[00:46:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Right.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: All right. At the bubble. So you're talking three guys that desperately need to make it out and a good chance that only one to two of them do.
So I think that's going to be the hard part for him is he's going to be racing against teammates that all have his information, that all know what he's going to be doing and how he's going to be racing it.
And as much as they want to keep it close to the vest, there's no way you hide everything from your teammates.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: So that's the one equalizer for him. I think that there will be. Yeah, I don't think that means he's going to go out there and run like 20th. I think that means if it comes down to the end of the race and their playoff bubble is right there and he's still got a little bit left to go and there's two of his teammates around, he's going to have to do the most that he possibly can and that may involve him getting wrecked by a teammate in some crazy scenario. I don't know.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, he just can't. When you're go into the race minus points, you just can't afford any mistakes at all whatsoever. So, like, it's got to be a clean race all the way around us going in with, with minus, minus it all, it's got to be good. And also on their side of that, if you go in and you're only plus a couple good, you got to go out and just kick some ass.
But I think Larson is also. I mean, Larson's one at Bristol. Larson, when Bristol, he says it's his favorite track. He has great numbers at Bristol. So that's another one.
I don't know. You know, I've. Do you do. Is there. Is it a playoff guy going to win, do you think? Playoff guy this race?
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Same.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: I think without a doubt a playoff guy wins this race only because it's a race where all the guys should be good. So you just take playoff guy confidence, plus the extra whatever they put into the setup and the extra grease on the tires that they're going to put in there, all the. All the little things that make a playoff driver really good in the playoffs and the fact that there's still 16 of them, I just think it's a no brainer that a playoff driver wins this. I'm going to, if I had to make like an over under bet, which I wish they would do this on draftkings, but number of playoff drivers to finish in the top ten, I would put that number probably at seven to six and a half to seven and a half somewhere in there.
[00:49:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: Because I think it's going to be just a field full of playoff drivers at the end of this.
[00:49:06] Speaker B: Unless something crazy happens and there's a wreck at the front with all of them just pile into it.
[00:49:12] Speaker A: Exactly. But if you're talking like a clean race.
[00:49:15] Speaker B: Yeah. That's.
[00:49:16] Speaker A: There's maybe like two or three playoff drivers that get knocked out just naturally throughout because there's 16 of them that are all over the place. I really think you're finishing with like seven playoff drivers in the top ten. Yeah, I'm with maybe one skunk in the top five.
[00:49:31] Speaker B: I just, I think.
I don't know, dude. I could see a lot of these guys coming out here and doing well. You're gonna have Larson, Hamlin. We've already talked about Truex Keselowski. That's.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: That's four. I don't see bail going there. Running bad.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Byron will run at least decent.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: Iron will run decent. So it's going to be. I'm just telling you, Saturday night's going to be an all timer.
Coming from the aspect, it has that feel, isn't it?
[00:50:00] Speaker A: It doesn't. It have that feeling? I think the reason why it has that feeling. Hamlin, Keselowski and trucks, we've talked about them all podcasts. I think that is the reason why.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's, that's. That is why. And it's just gonna be the night race at Bristol Saturday night. Just. I've already named off all this stuff, but it's just gonna be electric and it's cut off and there's gonna be people.
We might get a helmet thrown. It'd be awesome to see another good old Bristol helmet.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: Freaking hope so, man. I want a punch. I want somebody getting knocked down, drug outd.
[00:50:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: All of the nightmares that we could possibly envision. I just want them all.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: I want. So I'm right there. So I just. It's gonna be an all timer. It's. I have that feeling. I'm putting that into the existence here, that it's gonna be. Gonna be awesome.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: Hell yeah. I'm definitely stoked for it, but we're getting on to this. 50 minutes mark. You know what?
[00:50:57] Speaker B: I really, really want to hear what you got.
[00:51:00] Speaker A: I want to hear who the hell your hack of the week is this week.
[00:51:03] Speaker B: Well, you probably already know.
[00:51:06] Speaker A: I think I do.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: He ended up having another top ten, which somehow surprised me.
Somehow, somehow had a top ten.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: I don't understand how that happened.
[00:51:19] Speaker B: First time spires ever put all three cars in the top ten. It just still is also hilarious to me that Zane Smith and Cos Carson, host of our have kicked Corey Lajoy's ass in top tens this year. It's just hilarious. But on the first lap of the race, to go in there and, and take out Kyle Busch, who you've already taken out once this year, and if you got to listen or you read what Cobbush said on the radio and his team said on the radio is awesome. Just motherfucking everybody and same guy that.
[00:51:57] Speaker A: Got you and wherever the hell it.
[00:51:59] Speaker B: Was, it was just awesome. It was awesome.
Ends Blaney's day. I mean, ends Hamlin's day.
Bail gets involved. Keselowski's involved. It was like a playoff. It was like a playoff rack that a non playoff guy started pretty much.
Dude, Ricky Stenhouse at that wall so hard, it just destroyed everything over there. Knocked the camera off on the first of the race. I was like, holy shit.
[00:52:27] Speaker A: Um, just wild stuff. I still can't believe that happened on lap.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: Me neither. But that is, uh, he's won the award a bunch this year, but Corey, the joy a race is just not completed until he is the cause of a caution or, or cause the caution. Like, he. It's just every week with the guy. Like, he is just.
I I don't know what the word is. I mean, he's fighting for his life out there. I understand, but what? Sometimes, you know, desperate people do desperate things, you know? And, like, I kind of just feel like that's what Corey's doing and the way he's running sometimes it's like, good Lord. You're just, I mean, you flipped yourself over trying to wreck a guy Michigan. I mean, come on. Like, he's like, that's like, how does that even happen? Just some of the decisions he's made. And I'm not, I'm not saying that, like, me or you in the same situation wouldn't be desperate making the same decisions. You know, I'm just saying, like, it just is what it is. And you just gotta call a spade a spade in this situation. And I think he's just driving a little bit over his head. And so he's my hack of the week. That was the most long getting the hack of the week thing ever. But he is. I love it. Hack of the week. I was like, I posted on Twitter and have I just said cory fucking Lajoy? I was like, God. God dang, man. I couldn't believe it. But most of the time when he does something, it's like, so just not should have happened that I'm. Most of the time I'm like, what the fuck? Every time?
[00:54:01] Speaker A: Or, yeah, like, how did that go down?
[00:54:03] Speaker B: Yeah, that's kind of how I feel every time that Corey's involved in a wreck or, you know, there was a race this year where he had three times, he spun out three caution. There used to be a rule back in the day, if you calls or in three cautions, they parked you. I don't know if that's.
[00:54:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but it can't be because he's still on the racetrack.
[00:54:21] Speaker B: So I don't know, but that's my hack of the week. And is yours the same or different?
[00:54:28] Speaker A: No, mine is different.
[00:54:29] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: And I think you're going to get a kick out of this.
[00:54:32] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: But Connor Zillow goes out here in the Xfinity Series and whoops.
Unbelievable amounts of ass.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: Unbelievable amounts.
[00:54:44] Speaker A: In his very first, it was his very first NASCAR Xfinity Series star ever. And he goes out there and puts on a clinic against these guys. And this isn't like a Shane van Gisbergen coming into the Cup Series to a track that he has probably the most credentials to be good at in the entire field. And everyone's been there for the very, is going there for the very first time and has never seen this place before.
This is one of the oldest road races in the NASCAR schedule. It's one of the two OG road course races outside of Riverside from way back in the day.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: And it's been talking before we were born.
[00:55:28] Speaker A: Exactly. These two races have been the bread and butter at NASCAR road course racing for the longest time. You had the most data about it. It's the most speed oriented, and it's got seven frickin turns. It's not that crazy complicated. I'm not gonna say it's not hard, but it's not crazy complicated as far as road courses go. And you're telling me that this kid who just turned 18 and just got his ability to race in your series for the very first time, goes out and beats every single one of the other 30 something drivers by multiple seconds? Everybody's in a different zip code compared to what he's doing. The hack of the week award, to me gets cut up into however many pieces. How many race cars were there on the track that day? There was 38. I'm going to cut the hack of the week award into 37 pieces and give it one piece of it to each of the other drivers in the NASCAR old series, saying, first ever whole.
[00:56:24] Speaker B: Field hack of the week.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: You suck. You also suck all the way down to 38th place at Kyle Weathermande. I'm gonna give every single one of them a hack of the week award for letting an 18 year old kid in his first start go out there and make them all look like a bunch of idiots.
[00:56:40] Speaker B: That's hilarious.
[00:56:41] Speaker A: And that's not to say that Allison just texted me fired up.
That's not to say that Connor Zilich didn't deserve the win, because he did. He goes out there, and he's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen put on a racetrack. The last time I saw somebody do something like that was Ty Gibbs. And Ty Gibbs is now racing in the Cup Series for one of the.
[00:57:00] Speaker B: Best teams, Shane van Gisbergen.
[00:57:02] Speaker A: And, well, Shane Van Gisberg. And I gave my reason why. I thought that was a little bit different. But the only other person that goes out there and does something like that in the Xfinity Series, in specific, is Ty Gibbs. And he goes out and does that. It's like, my gosh, man, this dude is. I know everybody's already talking so much about him and how good he is, but that just goes. That's a whole long winded hack of the week award to 37 guys. That shows you why I agree with what they're saying.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: I couldn't agree more. He went out and kicked ass. I mean, yeah.
[00:57:37] Speaker A: With a penalty in the middle of the race, too.
[00:57:39] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know if he's just.
I don't know. See a generational talent.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: I don't know enough about him to be able to say so.
[00:57:48] Speaker B: Me neither.
[00:57:51] Speaker A: So that's. That's my hack of the week award. The whole NASCAR xfinity.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: I love that. A whole.
Whole field hack of the week.
Oof.
[00:58:02] Speaker A: That's just rough, buddy.
But. But who knows? Maybe he'll keep on keeping on and keep on whipping ass, and they'll just have to put him the cup series a year early.
[00:58:11] Speaker B: He's got a few more races coming up, so it's gonna be interesting to see what he does. It some. I really do want to see what he does at some ovals, but he has like multiple coming up this year and he is full time in that bad boy next year.
[00:58:24] Speaker A: So hell yeah.
[00:58:26] Speaker B: He's also.
[00:58:27] Speaker A: What car is he going to be racing next year in Xfinity for junior?
[00:58:31] Speaker B: I don't know if they have a number yet, if it's going to be. I don't know what the number is going to be, but he's racing for junior.
[00:58:38] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Love it.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: He is also on my list, just like Shane van Gisberg. And I would put money down that that kid will be in the playoffs.
[00:58:47] Speaker A: Oh, without a doubt. Xfinity has be in the playoffs for sure.
[00:58:50] Speaker B: Road course races next year, which is the most I've ever schedule they've ever had. Yeah. So you can book this right now on September 16 at 510 pm that Connor Zillidge and Shane van Gisbergen will be in the playoffs in their respected series next year.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: I couldn't agree more, completely, honestly.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: And I also still have my accidental SVG championship bet.
He is going to be rocking. He is going to be top of the standings when these playoffs start. And I know he's not going to finish there, but who saw that one coming either? Like, oh, no, being number one.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: I mean, I think everybody assumed he would make it in and he would get races. I don't think anybody thought he would be like number one, two or three by the end of the regular.
[00:59:48] Speaker B: Did you know until Austin Hill won that race, Atlanta, that was Austin Hills third win of the year. That was the deepest ever in ever in Bush Xfinity nationwide Grand National Series history. Ever that a series has gone that deep before. They had two drivers with three wins. And it's just am just happened with Atlanta. You have Shane Van Gisberg in three wins and Austin Hill three wins. Now also, here's another incredible stat. Austin Hills, all three wins, all plate tracks, all of his three wins, three road courses. That's one anywhere else.
[01:00:24] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: It's insane.
[01:00:27] Speaker A: Golly, there's a reason why Austin Hill gets, like, negative money to win plate races. And that would be why. And why Shane Van Gisbergen gets negative money to win road course races.
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Yeah, but shit's nuts. It is what it is. Uh, Bristol is going to be crazy. I'm honestly like super, super, super excited.
[01:00:48] Speaker A: I'm fired up. I'm trying to convince Allison to go to Bristol with me.
[01:00:51] Speaker B: Oh, are you going?
[01:00:53] Speaker A: I'm trying. We're thinking about it. It's not fully certain yet.
[01:00:57] Speaker B: Oh, just dropping the bomb on us. Right here.
[01:00:59] Speaker A: I'm gonna.
[01:01:00] Speaker B: I'm.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: I'm thinking about it.
[01:01:02] Speaker B: It's. It's. Do it, dude. It's. It's one of those, like, getting to. You just. It just has potential to be a all timer. Just like, me getting to go to Atlanta and seeing a three wide finish. Like, I feel like that's like going to Bristol.
[01:01:15] Speaker A: Screw it.
We'll see what she has to say about that.
[01:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah, but anyway, you've been to Bristol a bunch of times, so.
[01:01:25] Speaker A: Twice now. I'm hoping to make it three on Saturday.
[01:01:28] Speaker B: That would be. That would be incredible, dude.
[01:01:30] Speaker A: It would be absolutely wild.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: I hope you go. I hope you get to go. I will be.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: And you both.
[01:01:35] Speaker B: I will be leaving Sunday morning for the beach for a week. Thank God.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Big old PCB guy.
Hell yeah. Love it.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: No podcast next week after.
[01:01:47] Speaker A: No podcast. Actually, after Bristol.
[01:01:50] Speaker B: Sorry. I will. I will be. I might turn my phone off completely.
[01:01:54] Speaker A: Dang. Dawson unplugged. And it's not because he's playing acoustic on the beach.
[01:02:00] Speaker B: I might bring a guitar. You never know.
[01:02:01] Speaker A: Oh, shit. Never mind.
[01:02:03] Speaker B: Dawson.
[01:02:03] Speaker A: Really? Unplugged on the beach.
[01:02:05] Speaker B: I might write me a song. I love my toes in the water. In my ass in the sand.
[01:02:09] Speaker A: Damn. Pushing people off the stage by my hands.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. Oh, that was a year ago today. Two years ago today. By the way, I have pictures on.
[01:02:20] Speaker A: My instagram of the broken drum shield.
[01:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, we won't go into all that, but that happened two years ago today, and I.
Everyone there can suck my ass. Pretty much.
[01:02:32] Speaker A: Damn. All right. Hack of the week, Ocean City, Maryland.
[01:02:39] Speaker B: Well, thank you all for hanging out with us.
[01:02:42] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. You can find us online anywhere at Caleb, conroute on Instagram, tick tock, Twitter, and other fine places of social media enjoyment.
[01:02:51] Speaker B: I'm Dawson Edwards. Music on a across the board. And then you can follow our podcast page. Raise rowdy. Racing across the board.
Matt Burrell raised.
[01:03:02] Speaker A: Rowdy's on there.
[01:03:03] Speaker B: Raise rowdy. Follow them everywhere. Raise rowdy. Nikki T. Follow them everywhere. They have Florabama party this past weekend. And Florida. Bama is outside of talladega, the wildest place I've ever been in my life, so.
[01:03:16] Speaker A: Damn. Still haven't gone yet. Still need to go.
[01:03:19] Speaker B: Dude, if me and you went there together, I just.
[01:03:22] Speaker A: We die.
[01:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe I'd be cool. It'd be awesome.
[01:03:26] Speaker A: It'd be a life well lived.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Floribama. For anyone that's listening, if you've never been, you just gotta go one weekend.
[01:03:35] Speaker A: It is just the most just give it a shit.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: It is just some things. It's just like Talladega to me. It's like just things that you didn't know people would do or willing to do in public in front of God and everybody.
They just do it there and it's just. Florabama is just that place. Like, there's. There's a reason. It's in a lot of songs and reasons that Eric church and Kenny Chesney and Jimmy Buffett and Willie Nelson and all those people hung out there all these years and Dean Dillon and Hank Cochran. I could keep going down the list of all the guys that absolutely houses and spent many, many, many nights in Florabama in Alabama down there, uh, it's just off the rails. So if you've never been, I love it should totally. You should totally go. Just. Just stay. You can stay in the condo right beside it and just come down there. You can just walk to it and you don't. You don't need to drive when you leave there. So walking right back across to your hotel is definitely the best way. I love that.
[01:04:33] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[01:04:34] Speaker B: Uh, Floribama did not pay us anything to tell you all of that, so if they want to sponsor, not a.
[01:04:39] Speaker A: Not a single dime, but that can change florabama.
Heck yeah. Well, anyway, y'all thank you so much for listening. And since Dawson said Floribama, make sure that if you are in PCB over next week after the Bristol race is done, you're nursing your hangover. If you hear the soothing sounds of a guitar and someone saying into a microphone, you go over and tell our good buddy Dawson hello. Come see us and tell him that he is your hack of the week.
Not for any particular reason, unless he gives you a really good one. But anyway, we love you all. Thank you all for listening. We will catch y'all two weeks from now.
[01:05:19] Speaker B: I just see y'all.
I don't drive a Marty Carlo and my truck ain't painted black it ain't got a big white number three turn and lift around in the track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can't handle dirt don't eat no curves with banks what I like in horses, I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door hammered on again I'm making my way to you, girl earn hard, fast.
