S1: Episode 21: Homestead, Angry Little Penske Fan

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is raise rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Good morning, beautiful people. We are live. Back again. We are live. [00:00:21] Speaker A: Well, God, feels good to be back doing this again. [00:00:25] Speaker B: It does. [00:00:27] Speaker A: Feels normal. Something feels normal for once. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Finally. [00:00:30] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:00:31] Speaker B: Finally something feels normal. [00:00:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Absolutely glad to be back. [00:00:38] Speaker B: You can go ahead and tell all the folks about your eventful last couple of weekends. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. So first off, going to preface this podcast by saying I know my audio quality is probably going to be terrible. I just had to go to Best Buy and buy this crappy $10 pair of I think the brand was what is it? Gummy. Gummy plus. Headphones never even JVC technically is the brand, but Gummy Plus, they're $10. So I probably sound like I'm eating my microphone right now. So apologies for the low sound quality. But I'm sure as most people saw a couple of weeks back, we posted up a post about needing to take a couple of weeks off and we were hoping we'd be able to get back within a week. I didn't realize how much we were about to go through, so that ended up being incorrect. But yeah, like Dawson said, we've taken a couple of weeks off now because as we were coming back from Atlantic City, New Jersey, I got a call from Allison that our house was on fire, so she had to evacuate the house. And we got home and pretty much the entire house is jet black. The whole kitchen went up in flames. The dining room is pretty bad. And everything else in the house was like covered in smoke and soot. [00:02:07] Speaker B: In water? [00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah, in water from them trying to put the fire out. So it's been the most difficult and hectic and challenging two weeks of our entire lives on this end, no doubt. It's definitely a tough situation. I promise you, you don't ever want to go through this. It's a lot. But we've just been spending the last two weeks basically moving what we can out of that house, moving everything over to this new apartment that we got over on the west side of Nashville in Bellevue. We ended up moving into this place. So if you see a video from it, you may see that I'm sitting on my dog bed on the floor or Stella's dog beds right here. And I got a TV box behind me. It's sitting in the kitchen. There's a lot of echo in here. It's definitely not a professional set up, but we're glad we're to be back doing this again. One thing I definitely got to say is I think we had probably over 200 different people at some point reach out and say something. I know a lot of people didn't want to bother us, so I know a lot of folks reached out to you. [00:03:21] Speaker B: Even I was about to say you're a loved son of a bitch, because I had a shit ton of people reach out to me and be like, man, I don't want to bother Caleb, but just let him know X, Y and Z. Whether it be like we're thinking about him or I want to give him money or clothes or whatever. And I was like, all right, I'll relay the message. But I was kind of mind blown about that. Like, the amount of people that just I was like, what? This is crazy. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Absolutely wild. So I just want to say if anybody on here is listening and you said something, I promise you we really appreciate it. We may have missed a text message or two replying back because there was so much love coming in, but we got a lot of help from a lot of folks. A lot of people donated clothes. Some people donated their time to come out, like Mark and Ashton coming out to help us get some clothes out of there. And we had a lot of folks really step up and show us a lot of love, and we really needed that. So appreciate it to everybody out there that did. We are still in the process of getting stuff out of there and all and can't go into, like, crazy much detail because there's a whole bunch of stuff tied up in insurance that we're trying to work through right now, so we have to keep a lot of it to ourselves. But I just want everybody to know we really appreciate the thoughts and the prayers and the support we've been receiving. It has been awesome. I mean, you don't really know how many people love you until you go through something that needs a whole lot of it. And we got shown a ton. So very appreciative on that front. So, once again, we apologize for sound quality, but I still have to go get a new interface, a new microphone, a new set of studio monitors. I got a whole bunch of stuff we still have yet to do, but we're just happy to be somewhere good, somewhere safe. We got walls around us. Stella's got a place to sleep, and we're still sleeping on an air mattress in the living room right now, but we're making it work for what it's. [00:05:18] Speaker B: So since you're on video here, I assume the old Dell camera made it through. [00:05:23] Speaker A: It did not. No, I'm just using the one built into the mac. [00:05:28] Speaker B: So it did not make it through. [00:05:30] Speaker A: No, I mean, the whole studio set up. The worst part about that was I had spent the Wednesday before we left decorating the entire studio. I know I've said it on multiple podcasts. I was going to get around to it, and I finally did. I got the whole sucker set up. [00:05:47] Speaker B: And I came there that Wednesday and you showed me everything. I showered at your house before we. [00:05:52] Speaker A: Left. [00:05:54] Speaker B: To go to wherever we went to first last week. But, yeah, you had the whole thing, like, finally set up. The big Blaney flag up in the front, all the diecast in the back. You have the whole deal set up there. [00:06:07] Speaker A: It looks like a sheet metal museum of Ryan Blaney. Wins up on the studio desk. It was awesome, man. I was really proud of the work and didn't even get to enjoy it for a day. But luckily, a lot of that stuff, I think, is cleanable the diecast and all. I mean, we may have to soak them in some kind of something, but. [00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they all ended up. [00:06:31] Speaker A: With a huge, thick layer of crap on it. I'm even looking at the table that I'm using. It's the coffee table with the beer bottle caps on it that I know Dawson knows plenty about. It's kind of funny. You can see little spots in the table where the heat cracked the epoxy and a couple of the bubbles that used to have covered up are now holes in the table. So it was intense. It definitely got a lot of stuff. [00:06:58] Speaker B: And your little studio room there is kind of, like, in the center of the house, wasn't it? Like, the way you walked in your house? Kind of the living room, then a dining room, and then your kitchen, and then right on the other side of that kitchen was where the studio was. And I want to say the wall where all that happened is the wall to the studio. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Not quite. It is a little offset. The rooms technically didn't touch the kitchen and the studio, but as soon as that smoke left, it had two directions to go either out the front door after Allison left or into the bedroom hallway, which the studio is right at the end of the bedroom. It was it was pretty bad. In my I had a big neon sign for Texas boot company from way back in the day. They don't even exist anymore. And it was this big lit up sign. It had the shape of Texas, and it said Texas in the middle of it, and that thing completely melted. It's, like, hanging by one bolt in the wall right now, melted and dangling down there. All the glass had popped and everything. So it got hot in that room. Yeah, it got hot in that room. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Absolutely crazy. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Yeah. It blows my mind. But thankfully, Allison and Stella had just gone to lay down to bed, so they got out in plenty of time. They didn't have anything wrong with everybody's. Everybody's okay, and that's the important part. And we're just trying to pick up the pieces and find another path. But once again, thank you to everybody who either sent their thoughts or said something to us or sent us clothes. We got a few things for our kitchen. I mean, luckily, with the amount of donations that we've received it's unbelievable how much of everyday life that we don't have to replace because people are so fast. I mean, they just got right on it. We have so many clothes in there right now. I don't even know what we're going to do with all of them. They were all gifted and we've tried them all on and everything and almost everything fit great. Literally. This twelve shirt, I think is the one shirt that I didn't have on the road that I know survived. [00:09:13] Speaker B: There you go. [00:09:13] Speaker A: So I put it on because I was like, you know what, we're going to at least rep. We had a good week there at Homestead, so Blaney fans are going to represent a little. I mean, enough about the house fire. I know we can talk about that for a full fucking hour if we wanted. Don't, I promise you folks, you don't ever want to go through it. So whatever you can do, make sure that you're prepared in any situation because it would definitely help you out. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Yep. Everybody go buy Fire Extinguishers, whatever that company is that sponsors John Hunter, Nemachek and the Bush series. That's contact. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Anyway. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, this weekend we did the Greenville Music Fest, which was the first, I think the first outdoor festival we have done all year where it did not even rain a drop I was hoping. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Have a chance of rain. It was awesome. [00:10:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And it was like the high was like in the by the time the night came, I actually wore a jacket all day. A lot of guys did. There were people wearing long pants and jackets and stuff. Once the show started, it started dropping down. When the sunset it was getting down into the high 60s. So yeah, it blew my mind. There was no rain for that day, but it was beautiful. And our budy Randy Adams was at the show. We didn't get a chance to talk to him, but he was there. [00:10:44] Speaker A: Yeah, Randy. [00:10:46] Speaker B: And then I think he ran a five K there. Yeah, he ran a five K and then played ran a five K, then came to the show. He actually sent me a video of Travis's talkback was on when the show started. Had to run out there. Turn that off. [00:11:01] Speaker A: I didn't even notice that. I must have left the stage at that point. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah, he actually knew what it was. He was, was that the talkback that you were fixing? I was like, yep. [00:11:10] Speaker A: That was hilarious. [00:11:12] Speaker B: And yeah, that was great all the way around. It was a big festival. Brooks and my first that was my first time seeing Brooks and Dunn. I know you were on tour with them last year or two years ago. So you've seen that a bunch. [00:11:27] Speaker A: It was kind of funny going back to that spot. I would told Dawson in the middle of it. I was like, man, it kind of feels like going back to our roots, going back home a little bit, because when I started with Travis, we were opening up on a, like, multi date tour, and so it was kind of wild to go back and then rewatch the show again now that it's been separated by a couple of years. And I feel a lot more confident since I know what's going on now. I'm not brand new onto the road. It was really neat and get to say hi to everybody. There was one thing. Honestly, with the whole house fire thing, I by no means I'm saying that it got overshadowed. But we didn't mention at the beginning here that over the course of the last two weeks, not just did the house fire happen, but we actually got home from that run and went over and said our last words to our tour manager, Scott Minkley. He passed away about, I think it was on that morning. [00:12:30] Speaker B: Yes, we came, I've used the word a bunch, but I was like, it's been heavy around the, you know, camp and crew the last few weeks. Scott had a year long battle with cancer and cancer does what cancer does and it sucks. And we kind of got the word. He only missed one weekend, though, one weekend and that was it. Caleb said we got the word that he wasn't doing well. We knew he wasn't doing well, but we got the word that it was coming close to the end and then we had already made a plan. We were going to go over there Sunday when we got back off the road. Saturday night, Caleb's house catches on mean and Caleb still goes over to they we went and said our goodbyes even after his house is burned down the night before. And obviously that was extremely sad, but he talked to us, he knew who we were, which was cool. But then he passed away on Wednesday. That following Wednesday in the morning, a. [00:13:43] Speaker A: Couple of days later. [00:13:44] Speaker B: A couple of days later. And yeah, it sucks really bad, but it is what it is, I guess. I really don't know what to say about it. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah, and so that's kind of what brought it back up is going around back to a familiar camp like that. It was really crazy how many folks came up and just said something along the lines of like, hey, we've been thinking about, y'all, like, really sorry to hear about what happened with Scott and this and that. It's people that we haven't even seen in two years. I haven't run across any of these guys since Brooks and Dunn's reboot tour that we were on ended and that was 2021. And so these guys are still coming up to us after all that time and saying something to us about it and sending their condolences and everything. I mean, Scott was a really well respected and well loved member of the touring community and it's kind of funny. As distant as we can all be and as far flung as we all end up, everybody kind of remembers who they like and who they worked with a lot. He had a lot of folks. [00:14:48] Speaker B: When you do something for 36 years, you meet a lot of people. And that was something else that I was surprised by. The amount of people that reached out about Scott passing away. I was kind of mind blown about that. People on the touring side of things that knew Scott, and then just people that saw the post and stuff that reached out just to make sure that we were all doing okay. It's just mind blown. You said a while ago you don't really think about how many people care about you until you need to be cared about. And then a lot of people reach out and stuff, and it's like, man, that's pretty cool that people do give a damn. [00:15:26] Speaker A: They really do. [00:15:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Even it's awesome. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah. In the world of just everything's always moving, the days go by so fast. I know people don't always reach out to people and stuff, but, yeah, people do really care about people. And it's like that Luke Bryan song. It's not like I go jam out to it all the time, but that song, it's like, end of the day, I believe most people are good. Most people are good people. No matter what you see and hear, most people are good a week after a week, two weeks after all that stuff like that. I had another close friend, Cindy. She passed away from breast cancer the same week that Scott did. So it puts a lot of things in perspective of life and how all that just the way life works. And it's just crazy. We still have to have jobs and we still have to play shows. We still have to make a living to pay for stuff. Scott, I think the last thing Scott Minkley would have wanted would be for us to cancel a show. [00:16:34] Speaker A: He didn't even cancel his own appearances at his own shows until it was last weekend. That tells you exactly who Scott was for sure. [00:16:45] Speaker B: I told you. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Even went out on that ten day run all the way out to Colorado being his last run. I mean, he got one last solid taste of it. [00:16:54] Speaker B: I know we're kind of rambling here, but it's been a while, so I feel like we got time to talk about all this. But Scott told me about a story about Charlie Daniels. And this was probably right when I first started, because when I first started was in you as well. 2021. And Charlie had passed away in 2020. And for those of you that don't know, I think the last three years, from 17, 1819 and 20, charlie and Travis toured together. They were great friends and all of that. So they are really close. And for the longest time scott's profile picture on Facebook was him and Charlie all bear hugged up and loving on each other. And he had told me, he said that people ask Charlie all the time. I think Charlie was like, 73. Maybe I could be making that up, but 73 rings a bell. For some reason. They're like, why don't you quit touring? You've been doing this for over 50 years. And he's like, man, if I ever quit touring, I'll get old and die. I'll get old and pass away. And for the first time in his life, he didn't. Tour was 2020, and he passed away. They all kind of joked around, just saying, like, man, Charlie called his shot. [00:18:06] Speaker A: He did. [00:18:07] Speaker B: He knew what was up. And I feel like Scott Minkley had that same passion and mentality know music. And I thought that post that his sister made yesterday on his Facebook page was great because it kind of talks about his passion for music and how he all of us are in this way. But going against the grain and going to get a job that's not your typical nine to five down at the mill or whatever it may be. And that's kind of what that post is about, and having that passion and mentality for music and what you do for those of you that hadn't seen it, I'm sure you can go look on Scott's page. They posted a big, long a great little post about Scott and his life. [00:18:51] Speaker A: And so it was really cool to read through. Actually, last night, whenever I came across it, me and Allison were out on the deck. Yesterday was our first day that we ever did something that felt normal. We watched the race. We cooked a bunch of food. [00:19:04] Speaker B: I was loving the pictures. [00:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we played cards on the porch till about 910 o'clock at night and just tried to kind of have a day that didn't feel weird, which I'm. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Sure was much needed. [00:19:18] Speaker A: Oh, incredibly needed. I saw that post come across, and attached to the post was a picture of Scott from 1987. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Somewhere, like somewhere in there. Yeah. [00:19:29] Speaker A: And it was so funny to see him because he looks so much different, that I actually covered his profile file up, so I often couldn't see who it was. And I said, who is this? And just showed her the picture. And she looked at it forever. And I was like, 1986. And she looked at it. She's like, I have no idea. I was like, that is Scott Minkley right there. And it was really cool to see. It looked like he had just barely started up and started doing things. He said it was on a stage that he graduated high school. Yeah, it was really, man, like you said, it's been a heavy, heavy couple of weeks on the Travis camp, but it's definitely bringing everybody closer together. We got everybody kind of supporting each other. I had Nick gorman go in for me. [00:20:13] Speaker B: We got to shout out Nick Gorman for helping us out. [00:20:16] Speaker A: That was seriously, man, thank you for going out there and doing your thing. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Because he stepped into an absolute shit show. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Of a weekend with you and Scott and everything going on. And on top of all this, we have a substitute drummer because our drummer just had hand surgery on both hands. And I mean, just what a two weeks for everything to happen? It was just hard to believe, really. And we all were thinking it like, is all this really happening at the same? Like, there's no way, right? [00:20:49] Speaker A: And not a single show gets canceled. Everybody keeps doing their job. We make it through. Y'all even had shows with Kenny Wayne Shepard that I missed. I was really looking forward to seeing those shows. And that was even more on top of it, because in the middle of all of the normal day that you have to do when you have another major opener like that, like, Kenny Wayne, it's not like he's just showing up and setting up like it's any other day opener. This guy's a professional. He's been doing it for years. He deserves a level of respect. So y'all are having to give the stage up sooner than normal and really rush through your stuff and all. You're doing all that with two different people that are dropped off and one person that's no longer there at all. I mean, it's a lot. [00:21:33] Speaker B: It was gosh on a semi funny note, mills, our photographer, he's a Rome, Georgia boy as well. He comes in and you he's he only comes to shows that are within about five or 6 hours of Rome. That's kind of his spread that he comes to. He comes to Chattanooga, finds out Scott has passed away, finds out your house is burned down, and then he's like, who's that drummer? And Mills was like, what in the world has happened? He just saw us two weeks ago. He just was at a show two weeks ago, and it looked like somebody slapped Mills upside the face. He was so confused, and I mean, we felt the same way. And I was like, Mills, it's been a week. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Let me tell you, it's been a week. [00:22:27] Speaker B: And he was just mind blown. And I was like, yeah, so are we. [00:22:32] Speaker A: I didn't even think about that. I forgot that he was going to that show. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Yeah, he came to Chattanooga. [00:22:38] Speaker A: I can't imagine walking just not knowing any of this. I mean, I'm amazed that word hadn't made it to him yet. I mean, good lord, there's so many people that say, man, I wish you all said something. It's like, dude, we've told so many people, we don't even know who we haven't told anymore. Don't take it personal. It's just, holy crap, so much going on. [00:23:00] Speaker B: If you straight up just told someone those three things, they'd probably be like, man, you're lying. You're looking for sympathy. You know what I mean? They wouldn't believe I wouldn't if someone told me all that bad stuff had happened to them, I'd be like, yeah, there's no yeah. I was like, it really did for us. [00:23:18] Speaker A: I'm telling you, man, even Travis said it himself, he's like, man, this camp just needs a travis said that? Yeah, Travis said that to Jeff the other day. He's like, Man, I just feel like the last few days this camp just needs a break, I swear. [00:23:35] Speaker B: Hey, Rams is making an appearance right here. [00:23:37] Speaker A: Look at oh, heck yeah. Rams is making an appearance on the pod. I got Stella right here next to me, too. [00:23:41] Speaker B: You're sitting? [00:23:43] Speaker A: Yeah, she's napping on the air mattress. [00:23:47] Speaker B: We sleep on and the dogs on the pod. [00:23:49] Speaker A: I'm recording on the dog bed that she's supposed to sleep on. [00:23:52] Speaker B: So you all just swap beds for a minute? [00:23:54] Speaker A: We did for about an hour, but man, all that to say, we've had a rough time. We've had a rough go of it, but we're still finding the good and everything. I mean, we're doing our best. I know this is a very depressing 1st 20 minutes of the podcast. [00:24:08] Speaker B: Foot's in my pocket. There we go. [00:24:10] Speaker A: There you go. [00:24:11] Speaker B: It is. And that's what I said. We kind of rambled there, but there's been so much go on. It's been two weeks since we've been on here. [00:24:19] Speaker A: Two weeks of absolute chaos. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Me and you, we talk every single day of our lives, whether it be on the phone or a text or we work together or whatever it is. We talk every single day. But yeah, I figured we'd fill everybody in on the craziness of the last couple of weeks yeah, absolutely. [00:24:40] Speaker A: And get past it and try to move forward with it, which is exactly what we're trying to do by recording this podcast. It's just something that feels normal. Again, thanks everybody, for bearing with us for two straight weeks of radio silence. That just was very needed. And we're just glad to be back, honestly, we are. [00:25:00] Speaker B: And we got two more races left this year, so we got this podcast and two more I'm sure we'll hop on here at some point in the middle of the offseason just to shoot the shit. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. Talk about some silly season stuff. [00:25:15] Speaker B: Or even talk about football or baseball, whatever is on. We got a game. Seven tonight. Monday Night Football. There's always stuff we can get on here and talk about. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Heck yeah. Absolutely. [00:25:26] Speaker B: Yeah. We got twelve more shows left on the year. It's going to be a good rest of the year. We're in through December. Let's talk about some racing. How about that? [00:25:35] Speaker A: Heck yeah. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yesterday was one of the most depressing days of the race fan I've ever had. Ever. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Dang, it's tough, man. God dang, I felt for you. As soon as it happened. I was like, god, out of all the people, it could have happened to, too. When our drivers were running up. [00:25:56] Speaker B: I got the hendrick car shirt on yesterday. I'm wearing so I got the hendrick car shirt. I got my hat, got my koozie. I got a country back. I am Larson. Yeah, I am Larson out yesterday. And I know we usually talk about betting later on, but I told you, I was like, I've done so well on betting all year. I was like, it is crunch time. I'm going all in on Larson and I did and I'm like, freaking out, obviously, because I was like, this is Larson's best track statistically. I mean, he's a badass. Like, I was just like, this is going to happen. And I mean, I got running out. [00:26:31] Speaker A: Front with a five and a half second lead for most of the race. [00:26:35] Speaker B: Led so much of the race between stages one and two. And, man, I was like, I'm about to win a few hundred dollars here. I'm going to spray beer everywhere. Like, this is going to be that kind of day. [00:26:48] Speaker A: I'm going to piss Lindsay off and ruin the house. [00:26:50] Speaker B: And dude, I couldn't believe my eyes. And they're like, well, here comes Larson. Look how much he's gained. Look how much boom. And he hits the I didn't even holler or scream. I didn't know what to say. I just had my mouth open like, yeah, that really just happened. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Good lord, it was so insane to watch that go down, man. It was watching Blaney come down pit road from the lead. I was already like, well, here we go. We're losing the lead here because Blaney fans on pit road are the most nervous bunch you'll ever meet. And all of a sudden you see Kyle coming up. And I know Kyle is damn good at driving these cars. So I was fully convinced the whole time that he was just outbreaking Ryan Blaney. That he just knew what his car could handle. Blanny was being a lot more conservative. He has more to lose in this situation he -17 coming into this race he can't afford a fuck up I mean, if he messes up once it's a must win at Martinsville and he's statistically just average. There so seeing that come down the whole time until he hit those yellow was. I was convinced it was just pure talent. And then all of a sudden I was shocked by what looked to be a sudden disappearance of all talent all at once and it's just I even texted you that is one of the rarest mistakes you will ever see is Kyle Larson running into something without cause. You'll never see. [00:28:30] Speaker B: I don't even know what to and I loved how they did the little know on speed for him and Blaney. Neither one of them were doing anything crazy. Blaney was about five to 6 miles an hour slow. To get in, but he just said, like you said, he can't afford to speed on pit road there, so he's going to take it easy. And then Larson was coming in at a very normal speed. It just looked like super high rate because he was slowed down. But neither one of them did anything wrong. It's their prerogative to do what they did for sure. The exact timing and way. I mean, if Blaney is ten foot farther, Larson's fine. You know what I mean? [00:29:11] Speaker A: Exactly. Larson even said it whenever he was interviewed in the garage. He said, I didn't expect Blaney to slow up at the rate that he did. Not saying he did anything wrong. I just didn't expect that. So the way I judged, my braking was off of what I assumed he was going to do, not what he did. And that's what happened. [00:29:31] Speaker B: And when it happened in real time, I didn't notice that he hits Blaney. And then the pit wall. I thought he just hit the pit wall. [00:29:38] Speaker A: At first, I thought the same thing, and then I saw he hit him. And I know they talked about it maybe affecting Blaney's race, but I mean, realistically, if you looked at that last run that they had, blaney was coming back, blaney was catching back up and then just ran out of time to do it. His car needed a solid 50 lap run yeah. And show what it was capable of. And it was starting to show. He just didn't have enough time when he battled with Byron at the end. So really, that damage didn't affect him all that much. Maybe a little bit on a restart, short run speed, it might have done something, but on that long run, I really don't think it was as drastic as it could have been. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And two years ago, those cars would have been absolutely destroyed. Both of them. Blaney's race would have been over. But the car, it looked like a. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Damn parachute hanging off the length of my arm. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And these cars, I mean, even though they do crush more and all, like, just to hit the pit wall that hard, and then to hit Blaney as hard as he like, it didn't even look that damage. Now, I know the tie rod was broke and shoved all the way in up underneath the car, and I was kind of trying to explain that to Lindsay yesterday. It's like on the outside of these cars, even in the Denny wreck, they don't look wrecked. She's like, Why can't he go? And then you got the tie rod and tow lengths and all this stuff. That stuff breaks and all that, but it is crazy, man. These cars can hit the wall and hit these barrels and hit other cars so hard, and it doesn't really do anything. It's like, yeah, kind of blows my mind. [00:31:05] Speaker A: It definitely affects the arrow in a certain way, but real to the neck. [00:31:12] Speaker B: It doesn't look horrible. It doesn't look bad. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Unless they zoom in on it. You can't really see it, just crinkling. [00:31:19] Speaker B: It's awesome. Crazy. [00:31:20] Speaker A: Loved it. But all in all, I hate it for you, man. That was a huge mistake there. Does it really matter in the long run? No. It just sucks to know that your driver is more than likely going to win this race as long as nothing happens. And I forgot that I sent you that message earlier that day. Only person that is going to beat Larson is Larson. [00:31:47] Speaker B: I think when you sent it, or like when it happened, I thought about you sending that. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I got to just find it here, man. I sent you that way early in it. Only person beating Larson is Larson. Yeah. [00:32:01] Speaker B: What time did you send that? And then what time did I text you? [00:32:04] Speaker A: MFR, let me see. Gotta it's up past the Dale Tanhardt picture. That's for sure, man, I can't even find there it is. No one I said, hell fucking yes, man. No one beaten Larson but Larson. But man, this is great because that was whenever the twelve took second. [00:32:27] Speaker B: We were talking about our guys running one and two. [00:32:30] Speaker A: That was at 308 that I sent you that message asking if the Spectrum guy came and finished your fix. And four, one, a little less than an hour. 356 was whenever it happened. So a little less than an hour later, I went from saying, no one going to beat Larson, larson to Larson beating Larson. [00:32:54] Speaker B: Larson beats Larson. [00:32:55] Speaker A: Man, I hate that that prediction came true. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Me too, man. Just imagine now with me, we got this awesome multi groove racetrack in Florida. Like, imagine if that would have been the championship race and it would have been awesome. It would have sucked for me and you. But I mean, holy cow. If we're going to have one, I wonder why it's not there. It seems like it'd be a great idea to have it at this nice track in. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Think they were even talking about that on Denny's podcast a couple of weeks ago, man, I think it's just going to be really tough to move it. I think they're going to find any reason to tell you why that it can't be moved. It sells out every year at. [00:33:46] Speaker B: My. I agree with the guy that made the point about Vegas selling out. If it's the end race of the year, wherever you put it, it's going to sell out. Whether it's Vegas or there or Homestead or wherever you could put it anywhere, and it's going to sell out. [00:34:04] Speaker A: I think the reason why I don't want it there is because there's just always a way NASCAR will find, okay, we're going to put the race at Homestead because the product's so good, so we're going to change the product. Now all of a sudden, the racing would suck. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the most NASCAR shit of. [00:34:19] Speaker A: All time, but I'm with you. I used to not like homestead as much because it was so green flaggy. It trends green nowadays. I love that. [00:34:33] Speaker B: But this car runs so well at mile and a half, it makes it different than what it was in 2017, 1819, wherever. [00:34:42] Speaker A: That's when I started hating. It was back in 2018, 2019. And you'd go out there and it would be one person in the lead by 15 seconds. Nobody even challenging it. People trying to do something on pit road and only making up one or two of the 15 seconds they were behind. So it was one of those things where it's just like this track is a driver's racetrack. Nobody's going to wreck here doing something fully stupid without somebody else being involved in it. So there's not going to be a whole lot of just cautions pop up in the race. It takes a two car mistake for that to happen nowadays. I love that, though, because with the way that these new cars are, it just doesn't seem like those giant leads are as easy to maintain. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah, because everything so close. It's just rare. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Now I'm with you. I think it would be a great championship race, but as long as they just keep going there and as long as the race really matters, I love it for what it is, and it is fine. If I had my druthers, we wouldn't even need to talk about a championship race because we get rid of this whole playoff format. But we could talk about that for an entire podcast. Maybe that's what we'll do over the winter break is just complain about things for an hour at a time. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:01] Speaker A: Everybody else championship format. [00:36:09] Speaker B: On Glux Poll this morning, or said yes, and I was like, the No's are probably just Larson fans that were pissed. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Probably. And Blaney fans. Angry little story. You got to tell me that. I didn't see where it was. I just saw that you had gotten. [00:36:28] Speaker B: Called, that Blaney goes on the radio and says, f you dickhead, talking about Blaney or talking about Hamlin. And I commented that on Facebook. And someone calls me an angry little Pinsky fan. [00:36:42] Speaker A: I died laughing when you said that. That was so funny. [00:36:47] Speaker B: Dude, I got to run to the restroom real quick. Give me 2 seconds. [00:36:50] Speaker A: All right. Anyway, I'll take over. [00:36:52] Speaker B: Yeah, you can talk about stuff. [00:36:54] Speaker A: I'm going to talk about Blaney here for a minute. Since we're talking angry little Pinsky fans, I'm going to talk Blaney here for a couldn't. When I saw everything going down with Blaney on this restart with Hamlin, I completely said everything that Blaney was saying. And I have to say, been a fan of Denny's podcast. Been a lot bigger of a fan of Denny lately because I get to actually get to know him a little bit. So am I a Hamlin fan by any means no. But I've gotten to the point where I like him a lot more, and watching him go down there was just an example of the reason why I can't be a hamlin fan. Because he gets himself in these situations where he tries so dang hard to make something happen. And granted, apparently something was breaking on his car, so maybe there was a reason for it. But when he washed up the track and about took Blaney out, I knew that was the end of our chances to win the I just, I slumped so hard whenever that happened and watching him run third place for the rest of the race, which I know there was, the restart after Am one hit the wall. Watching him run third place for the rest of that race just irked me a little bit and I really was hoping he'd be able to get up there and make a huge move for it. I love that he finally did make the pass to finish in second, but man, that was a race that I never in my wildest dreams saw Blaney running well at. And suddenly here he is running in the top five consistently all day. Awesome performance from the twelve team. Just something I did not see coming from them and really proud of the day that we ended up having. I can't believe Seabelle ended up coming out there and winning the race by. [00:38:46] Speaker B: The end of it. [00:38:48] Speaker A: That was a complete shock to me. But, man. Good for CVL. Once again the playoff magic continues with him. I did not have him picked for my final four and here he is. He's going into it. So somebody's getting upset and we'll find out who that is come up next week since we have only one more race to go before the championship race happens. But yeah, as a Ryan Whiney fan, man, we had a great day and we really made a lot happen. Going from negative 17 outside, looking into coming out of it plus ten was the result I just did not see coming and very happy that it happened. Moving on into Martinsville, that just isn't necessarily one of our better tracks and all so we're hoping that we can come out of that and make it into the final four. I honestly I'm going to be extremely ecstatic to see Blainey into a final four situation because it'd be the first time in my NASCAR viewership that something like that would have happened for him. So be really cool to see it happen and I am very stoked about it. Very stoked about the idea. We also had Tyler Reddick running up there up front and coming in right at the last second. It was looking like it might turn into his kind of race. I was very impressed with the drive that he managed to put together there at the end. He ran kind of mid top ten all day long but managing to come out of there with a third place finish was pretty impressive. Riding up on that high line is definitely something he's good at. So watching him and Blaney battle for it there at the end was a really neat thing to and it looks like Dawson's made it back. He survived. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Sorry about that. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Yeah, my two minute ramble. [00:40:56] Speaker B: I can't wait to listen to it when I go back and listen to the pod. [00:40:59] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. You'll hear me going you'll hear me running out of ideas of things to talk about, I'm sure, really quickly. [00:41:07] Speaker B: All right, so back to the angry little penske fan. [00:41:12] Speaker A: So Angry Little Penske fans had to. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Run there in the middle of my story. So when Blaney and they were battling back and forth, whatever, blaney says that he halfway made a slide job, happened twice but never fully completed it. He said, if you're going to do it, send it all the way. Don't just halfway send it. And so when Denny wrecks in front of him, he says, fuck you, dickhead. [00:41:37] Speaker A: I died laughing. [00:41:39] Speaker B: And yeah, so great. I mean, that's so blaney. They either post the wreck or Blaney's interview, whatever it was, on Facebook, and I just comment, fuck you, dickhead, Blaney. And if you're one of the first people to comment on a video, I guess people more prone to see it. And so it starts getting ten or so likes and a couple of responses, and then a guy's like, just calls me an angry little Pinsky fan. And I was like, yes, that's me with a bunch of laughing faces. Because it's like, obviously I'm not a Pinsky fan at all who shits less about Penske or anybody out there. So it's like, just golly, there's nothing. And we back when some of those TikToks, when we were posting them, still trying to figure all that out. You know, people are calling us dumb asses and all this and saying funny shit about us. Like I love up an angry little pinsky fan. I was like, this is perfect. That's the name of the podcast is that is ideal. [00:42:46] Speaker A: That is hilarious. As soon as I opened up the notes and I saw it said Homestead angry Little Pinsky fan, I died the. [00:42:55] Speaker B: That'S the name, right? [00:42:59] Speaker A: I wasn't I just said it in my two minute spiel, but I was an angry little Pinsky fan when Denny Hamlin was running us up the frickin'track and sending us back into 3rd, 4th place. [00:43:08] Speaker B: And that's what Blanny was pissed off about, too. [00:43:11] Speaker A: Yeah, so screw you, dickhead. I like Hamlin, don't get me wrong, but damn, dude, that was some slack here. He's unbelievable. Denny and choking at Homestead, man, it's just two things that go together. [00:43:26] Speaker B: It does. And not that my exact words were I was like, not that mechanical failure is Denny's fault necessarily, but it is just the most Denny Hammond thing ever to happen. He chokes like the Falcons choke the he. That's the reason they say Denny don't choke. And dear Denny on his podcast. And he knows it. I mean, it is what it is, but he plays it off like the know, this throwaway thing, whatever, a gimmick. And like, in some ways it is, but, you know, he wants one so bad. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Oh, he doesn't care how it comes. He doesn't care what format it's in. He just wants one so people would. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Shut and it and he even said in his post race thing, he's like, if this is what ends is, this ends know? And he's we they're talking about Martinsville being a must win. He was like, yeah, we prepare every single weekend to go win. And he's great at so, yeah, I. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Mean, he's a short track guy. I totally could see like, something happening there. [00:44:28] Speaker B: It could be one of those deals where it's like, if he won, would you be surprised? No. If he didn't win, would you be surprised? [00:44:35] Speaker A: No. [00:44:35] Speaker B: It's just one of those kind of 50 50 toss up bets, as they say. Both of them are. I don't know. It's just the most Danny Hammond shit of all time. Really? [00:44:47] Speaker A: Yeah, no doubt about it. He's only sitting 17 out and we just saw Blaney come from 17 out to ten in. So it's totally possible he comes out here and makes something crazy go down and makes it even on points, not even having to win it. [00:45:02] Speaker B: But I don't really know how they run Martinsville strategy wise, but it kind of sounded to me they're going to have to decide what they want to do before the race starts. Yeah. [00:45:13] Speaker A: Do you want to go after points or do you want to go after track position? [00:45:17] Speaker B: And that's the vibe I got off of his interview because he knows just as well as we do and everyone else that has ever watched a short track race in this car. And what we're going to talk about next week is you're going to get to Martinsville and whoever wins the race off pit road and gets that first down in the first corner, they're going to lead and there's going to be hardly no passing. Yes. And it's just exactly what I'm thinking. We've talked about it so much on this podcast, and we could talk about till it blew in the face, but they're going to just run and they're going to say, track position, track position, track position. They're going to say that so much. [00:46:03] Speaker A: On Sunday, it's going to drive you crazy. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's all you can do. Tires don't wear out, man. And they don't start wearing out till like, lap 80, 85, if I memory serves me correct. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I saw Josh Berry's tire cording coming off of the Homestead Track and I said, oh, man, I missed those. [00:46:26] Speaker B: True. And it just doesn't have they're going to be so many two tire and no tire strategies at Martinsville next week, mark my word. To get off pit road first and you can win. We saw it last earlier this year. Ryan Priest, everybody's like, damn, ryan Priest is leading like Hill gets a penalty on pit road. He is the fastest car by miles. Leads the first, like 100 and something laps. Whatever. First pit stop, he gets a speed and penalty or bad stop, whatever it was. You didn't see Ryan Priest the rest of the day. And he was like, never heard of again. He's like, the car is fine, the car is fast. You just can't pass. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah, because you can't knock the crap enough out of somebody to move them off because all they got to do is shift and they're right back into it. Exactly. All that torque that they lost from getting out of the groove right back and just hammer down and come off the other end of it. It's like, well, what the heck am I even doing out here? The only way you can pass someone at Martinsville is to do like Denny did to Chase back in the day and knock him completely out of the fricking way and blow him out the outside wall. [00:47:33] Speaker B: And now I don't even know, like, this car you just said it the way this car is. And the back front bumpers line up so well, you can send them off into the corner and it just knocks the guy into the next guy. And you're right, you're going to wreck them or they're just going to gear down and go. We see it a lot at the Clash. They've been doing it at the La. Coliseum, but the guy four cars back would just hit the car. Boom, boom, boom, domino effect. And then the fifth, 6th car, there's enough energy finally through it where it just spins them right around. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's exactly how it's going to go, which I'm not looking forward to that particular part of it. But you know what? There will be something. It's Martinsville. It's an elimination race and eight cars need to do well to get in. It's going to lead to something happening. Maybe this is just me wishful thinking, but man, something's got to happen here. There has to be some major development. [00:48:27] Speaker B: I hope so. I don't know. We don't even have this in the notes, y'all. So this is just us talking. The short track package is so bad, I'm just going to keep saying it. Short track package is so bad. Until they make some drastic change, whether it be horsepower, the gear ratios, or tires, which probably should be a combination of three, ain't nothing going to happen. Because just like I said the other day, justin Haley said they made all those changes. He said, if I didn't know, like, you didn't tell me this is what you did. He's like, the car feels exactly the same. I feel no different. And so it's just like, golly mom. [00:49:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Because they're trying to affect the arrow on this thing. Like the arrow is going to fix the problem. [00:49:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Like why are we worried about arrow with short tracks anyway? [00:49:10] Speaker A: Exactly. The only time arrow has ever helped anyone out is when Martin Truex lost his right front fender. Helped anybody. Yeah. [00:49:21] Speaker B: Keep that right front cold. Cool. [00:49:23] Speaker A: Yeah. That's about the only time errors ever helped somebody at. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Anyways, my bad. Back to the task on Martinsville. But we'll have an hour and a half to complain about Martinsville next week. [00:49:37] Speaker A: I can't wait. [00:49:39] Speaker B: I say this all the time about my check boxes to check for a good NASCAR race yesterday was one of those for me, that's like what I loved about it. There's comers and goers, different strategies, great racing. You got stuff happening even though it happened to Larson, you got stuff happening to guys like Denny Larson. A blown motors. Yeah. So it just had all of those things to me that make a good race a good race. Those are good. You know what I mean? Having natural cautions, guys wrecking the guys up front, being great battles. There was at one point in the race, the top five you could throw a blanket over and they're all racing three wide in the front and then two guys like this behind. So just overall checks the boxes for me. That's why I say, hell, I wish they raced Homestead a couple of times a year and did the final race there. I love homestead. [00:50:30] Speaker A: I really wish they would go to Homestead one more time every year and that would just make my day. Especially now with the way these new cars race on. It just because, like what you said, I mean, the whole race started out with Truex and Bubble Wallace. Didn't see them coming front row racing side by side for about ten straight laps before finally one had to give way to the other. [00:50:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And they both fell back to the. [00:50:55] Speaker A: It wasn't it was awesome to crazy finishes for some people. That caution coming out when Larson hit the barrels was one of the most difficult cautions to explain to somebody how screwed up the race got. Because of yeah, because that caution came out and still some of the better cars ended up back up front. So it just showed you like the strong cars do, make it where they need to go. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Because you can't pass at Homestead. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Because of the ability to pass and everything else going on with it. I was trying to explain it to Allison exactly what that meant for, because she's a Truex fan and she was like, why is this going to screw Truex? And like having to explain to her, this is before the engine blew up on the thing and it didn't matter anymore anyway. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Didn't it blow up right after? [00:51:41] Speaker A: Right. They went under red flag and then it blew up under a caution lapse coming back to green. [00:51:45] Speaker B: I went to the bathroom and came back and Lindsay hollers, she goes true x says if he turns his car off, it might not crank up again. I was like, what? I come around a corner and there's white smoke coming out the tailpipes. I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, that's mean. Once he's smoke coming out the tailpipes, you are done. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Nothing more to be done there. But, yeah, trying to explain to her that, oh yeah, they were in the middle of a green flag pit cycle and it was only a few people had pitted and they were trying to get an advantage by coming back out on the track sooner with newer tires to make up some of that lost time. And now he's back in 18th. Trying to explain that to somebody is really difficult. But that is one of the more old school things that has happened on a NASCAR track in a while. Especially I was trying to explain how the wave around works and how lap down cars have to line up after the lead lap cars and all this. It's nuts. [00:52:31] Speaker B: And that happens a lot at a place like Homestead, places where tires matter drastically. You will see guys run long or short pit and stuff like that. Next week at Martinsville, you're not going to have that. And that is it's hard to explain, but it's kind of what they're trying to say, and I semi get this, but they're trying to say with the Daytona being the first race and Atlanta being the second race, having like you got this big audience of probably 10 million people will say, watch Daytona 500. And an average cup race averages at like 2.5 ish million, like 4 million on a high note. And then like 2 million ish, I'd say. So they're saying, you want to have all these people come tune in the Daytona 500 and they see that race in a plate race and it's just crazy. And then they used to do the west coast swing right after, and you go see Las Vegas or whatever race, used to be second, I can't even remember. And it would be a completely different race than what you saw, and it would confuse new fans, like new fans that saw the race and they don't understand what's going on. I thought this was NASCAR, but this and to me, that's what makes NASCAR cool is having all this different stuff. But to your point is what I'm getting at, like trying to describe it to a new fan of what short pitting is and Hamlin's strategy of running the full 41 42 laps and then pitting splitting stages up in half. And then they're saying, I know this is a long explanation here, but they're saying, like, having Atlanta the second race, you have two races that are like semi similar. They kind of look the same. So maybe when that new fan watches Daytona, they see Atlanta and it's the same track or same type of racing, but Atlanta is going to be a hair different, but nothing crazy different. So that was a long explanation for that. But that is a thing people run into with NASCAR, new fans not understanding how drastic every track is different. You know what I mean? [00:54:38] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. [00:54:39] Speaker B: Every type of track. You got your intermediate, short tracks, super speedways, all it is that is an interesting fact to describe to someone that's new. And I've done it with Lindsay. I remember doing it with you back in the day, my brother in law Dylan. I explain it to new people. Once you get your head around it, you got it. But sometimes it just takes a second. [00:54:59] Speaker A: It does. I mean, it's hard because it's the only sport I can think of where every single week somebody may have an advantage just because the particular way that you're competing in the same sport is so different that this person's going to have an advantage over this guy. I mean, it's like saying with football or baseball, really the biggest changes that are going to happen is the weather. Is it a cold game, is it a hot game, is it raining, or. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Is it in home field advantage? [00:55:27] Speaker A: And home field advantage will affect it, but you're still playing the same game. The same guys are still going to be good at the same things. It'd be like you rain in one day, so who's going to play better in the rain? Probably your running backs. Those guys are going to have a better game. But then all of a sudden you go out on a really warm, sunny day in the middle of July. Your receivers are probably going to have better stats than your running backs that day because they're going to have the ability to catch more balls. That is the only way that you can possibly equate it to somebody. But it's like NASCAR. You're going to a different track every week. The situation is completely different and where your skills really shine is going to be different and it just isn't something that you can compare to another sport. [00:56:07] Speaker B: Well, thank God they're not playing football in July, because somebody definitely died of a heat stroke. [00:56:11] Speaker A: No, probably, but you know what I mean. [00:56:14] Speaker B: Oh, man. But see, Lindsay, when I was explaining her like, super speedways and not going below the yellow line and strict plates and all that, her exact thing to me was like, well, basketball, they all play on the same court, and football, all the fields are the exact same size. I was like, I never thought about that. Even though they are, obviously. I just never thought that would be someone's counterargument to NASCAR. Every single week being different. [00:56:39] Speaker A: Yeah, every single week is different. On one hand, I think a lot of times people. Get way too focused on the Daytona 500 as winning new fans. Because I've watched a lot of Indy 500 since I became a fan and pretty much watch it every single year. I try to at least see a few laps of it. You know what, I also haven't done a whole lot of watch the rest of the Indy car season. Yes, it's not anything against it. It's just I already have my thing that I watch, and I already do this. But if you're going to have a major spectacle, absolutely. You can make me more of a fan of somebody by him doing well or telling me a story about him and this and that. It's a great moment to get eyes on the sport. But if you're really trying to win fans, that's where me and you come in. The hardcore fans that already exist, you got to keep them entertained because they will bring two to three friends along for anything that they go and do NASCAR related. That's how you win your fans. I think it's less about the order that races go in on the schedule. It's more about how well you engage each track with your hardcore fans every single week. That's what you're really looking for. [00:57:47] Speaker B: And I think you make a great point because I follow some people on social media that are pretty big indie fans and maybe just kind of fair weather NASCAR fans, maybe kind of like we are. We love NASCAR. Catch a couple of Indy car races or whatever, and they're running into that right now. They promote this Indy 500, the month of May, all this stuff. They have taken away all oval racing for the Indy Car series. Really? Yeah, because it is so dangerous. And it is dangerous, and they talk. [00:58:18] Speaker A: About it all the time. Incredibly dangerous. [00:58:20] Speaker B: But I mean, you just said it like that. You promote this thing, but this thing only happens once. You have a 20 something race schedule, and they're all on road courses. So the thing that you're known for isn't even 10% of what you actually do, which is so ass backwards, which. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Is exactly what we do with the Daytona 500 in a way. [00:58:43] Speaker B: No, you're 100% right, because there's only a year now. [00:58:46] Speaker A: Yeah, and it's cool. Don't get me wrong. I love the Daytona 500. I love restrictor plate racing. Those are all really cool events, and we should capitalize by trying to make them as big of an event as possible. But I think people get a little bit caught up sometimes thinking, okay, we've got to make sure that anybody that watches this race becomes a new fan of the sport. It's like nobody's going to just magically become a fan of your sport because you had one cool race. You've got to have that hardcore fan that they know that is going to spread the word around. I mean, that's how things really spread. You can market the hell out of something and get a whole lot of eyes on it. But if you want those eyes to pop in next week, you probably ain't got the same budget to market a race at Sonoma as you do marketing a race at the Daytona 500. [00:59:31] Speaker B: That's exactly right. [00:59:31] Speaker A: So you got to make sure that whoever it is that that's watching those races is a hardcore fan. That's going to get people interested, just like you did for me. And you've just mentioned three other people. So that's how you spread the word. That's how you get it out there. And I think that's reasons why these homestead races being so good, these mile and a half races being so good if they're going to make up a bulk of your schedule. Give us a good product so when we show up with our friends, or we watch the race with our friends, we can show them what it's like to really enjoy a NASCAR race and talk about it and make it interesting, make it fun. That's how you win your fans. Just give us good product. [01:00:11] Speaker B: And you see Lindsay and Dylan being the two people I talk new racing with all the time, even they watch road course racing and hate it. And it's like, why is it so bad? Why is it so different? I don't even have an answer for you. I really don't. I know what I think, but I can't even fake it and say, man, I love this. [01:00:34] Speaker A: I think they hate it because of the new car at the new track, because this is the only road course racing they've ever been able to see. [01:00:40] Speaker B: That is why they hate it. That's what I'm saying. The racing is so bad, just like it is literally follow the leader. So to them, they're looking at it like, well, why is this so bad and so different from an X, Y and Z? Because even them just watching it for this year, year and a half, they already have their type of tracks they really like. And if it's that obvious to brand new, like, why is it not obvious to it's obvious to everybody but people fucking NASCAR, I guess. I don't know. [01:01:12] Speaker A: But it goes back to what I said that one time where it was like, man, the dudes in suit and ties are making decisions the guys in fire suits should be making. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that's a great quote, and it really is. And it's just three years ago, I'd have been like, man, give me seven road courses in a season and fuck mile and a half. But that's not the world we live in today. That seems to be the world. The foreseeable future is what we have right now. And we have said on this podcast, let's capitalize on that then. The plate racing has been cool. They've seemed to do that. Even though if they're saving gas and they're saying that's why the Grayson is great. I don't care to the eye. Like they say, it passes the eye test and it works. So like, yeah, you might be able to save gas and run 70% throttle, whatever. You know what I mean? We don't know that. Just do what you got to do. So they got mile and a half some plate tracks figured out. Let's either one, and I hate that I'm saying this, but one, we got to weed out some short tracks and weed out some road courses or we got to fix the car. [01:02:18] Speaker A: They need to pick one. They need to pick one because I feel like for the last ten years we've been chasing our tail and the tail keeps running away from us because as we try to we almost get the tail by getting the car right finally. But we move the tail away by making too many of the races, the things that this car doesn't succeed at. And then we try to add those races back, but then we change the package of the car and it's like we're chasing our own tail. One NASCAR is both pulling the tail and chasing the tail at the same time because they keep trying to fix one and the other they figure out. [01:02:51] Speaker B: Yes, focus on one thing and fix that. [01:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah, if you like the schedule that we have now, logistically, then let's fix the car. But if you think that the car is fine and we just need to fix the schedule, pick one. But I think the car is what needs the work and I think that's what we should put the work into. Because realistically the schedule is not a bad schedule. It just looks bad at certain times because we have too many races. This car does not race well at in a row. So let's make the car better. I feel like that's a little bit easier than trying to change up the way the entire sport works. [01:03:21] Speaker B: I've told people all the time and then not all the time, just this year. And then Dell Jr. Kind of says it too. Now you can't keep promoting Bristol. You keep telling these people, man, you got to go to Bristol. You got to go to Bristol. If this is your trying to bring a new fan to the sport, you got to go to Bristol. It's like, you can't say that now. If I brought a friend to Bristol, they'd want to leave by the time the fucking before halfway. That's why Dale Jr. Says now talking about Atlanta, because it's so unique. He's like, dude, Atlanta is the hottest ticket on the market and Atlanta has been awesome. And I said it with the very first race. I was like, I like New Atlanta. I got to go there. And I was like, I like New Atlanta in person. I'm here for it. And then Dale Jr. Says that and it's probably going to be sold out two times next year even though it is probably going to be 30 deg degrees. And I like 30 degree races. I found that out this year, too. I like cold races over hot races because hot races are just the most brutal thing I've ever done in my whole life. [01:04:20] Speaker A: Yeah, you can warm back up but you can't undo a sunburn. [01:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So you can only tell me Bristol is good so much before I see what's on the track. And I've said it on here. It's like pissing on me and telling me it's raining. Like it's just not going to work. [01:04:37] Speaker A: It's so true, man. And here again. [01:04:41] Speaker B: We're off on the damn car again for the last 20 minutes. And it is what it is. We're back. First one back in a while. But we're just rambling. We're just rambling. [01:04:50] Speaker A: And it's excited to be here. [01:04:52] Speaker B: I enjoy it. I didn't think about just Bell has his little handful of wins. I had no idea that this was Bell's first ever win on a mile and a half track. That was kind of surprising my mind. [01:05:03] Speaker A: When you put that into the notes I got to really thinking about I was like, man, you're right. He's won on the dirt at Bristol. He's won on a road course. One at New Hampshire, one at New Hampshire and Martinsville. Martinsville is gotcha he got into the. [01:05:21] Speaker B: Last year at Martinsville. [01:05:23] Speaker A: That is OD. [01:05:24] Speaker B: We said it on this podcast when the playoffs started. We talked about Bell in the playoffs going together and it was one of the first drivers. We talked about how the playoff schedule just kind of leans into his driving ability and just the way it works out, like three races at a time. They just kind of work out to Bell's abilities and we didn't have him on our list, but we said it could happen and here it is. It happened. [01:05:55] Speaker A: It's so strange, man. [01:05:56] Speaker B: It is. [01:05:58] Speaker A: What is it about? It certain track he can go through and have such a just mid, not even mediocre, like better than mediocre. He's doing fine. But just mid race, just this very midseason lackluster season. [01:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, just like he just kind of there to the round of eight and. [01:06:19] Speaker A: Now into the final four. Two years in a row. I mean, last year he definitely was a lot more impressive throughout the playoffs. So I'll give it to him. But I never would have picked Bell as a final four guy all the way through the season and he just finds his way no one else would have last year. Find your way there. I don't get it. So good for him. As long as makes it into the playoffs, I'm just going to start writing them in as a free lock on the top four. [01:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:45] Speaker A: No matter what else is going on. [01:06:46] Speaker B: I mean, you do something once, you can call it a fluke, do something two years in a row, and it's like, oh, this falls into your wheelhouse. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah. This is a real thing for you here. [01:06:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's crazy. Bell is just kind of like you go to a race, there's not no Bell fans, there's no Bell haters. It's just like when they introduce him, no one makes noise, which is not really what you want as a race car driver. You want him to either be screaming or booing. One of the two. [01:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:13] Speaker B: So I don't know. Bell just kind of falls in the middle. He's a hellacious dirt track driver, and I think he, deep down, really wants to go back dirt track. Know, we kind of talked about that on here before, too, but he says it makes him better, and maybe he's trying to figure out how to maneuver this thing, get better without being allowed to race dirt track cars. [01:07:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got to. I mean, that's part of the deal. If you want to be a NASCAR driver, you make a lot more money than you do if you're in dirt. And so it's up to you, how bad do you want it? And this is your team. This is what you're stuck with. And make it work. And here he is in the final four, two years in a row. So big winner for homestead is Christopher Bell. And that race even was a great example of what it's like to be in Christopher Bell's shoes. You run average all day long and. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Somehow come out with a race is like his season. [01:08:09] Speaker A: Yep. [01:08:09] Speaker B: Something else that kind of blew me away, and I want to go into a little deeper dive into this than what I just put in the notes here. The only driver to finish top five in both next gen Homestead races is AJ. Almondinger. And then if you dive a little deeper into that stat, AJ. Almondinger is statistically his best mile and a half track oval track. Not just mile and a half. It was oval track. So that counts all ovals, intermediates, super, speedways, and short tracks. Homestead is his best track average, finish lapse he's led, all that stuff. That count. Doesn't count his road course stuff, just his oval track stuff in the cup series. That doesn't count experience, either. But I don't know. I don't think about AJ. Almandinger being Mr. Homestead, and not that he's going out and dominating races, by no means, but he has a bunch of top fives and a bunch of top tens in his career at Homestead, so he's definitely got that Homestead feel of, I assume, ripping the fence figured. [01:09:10] Speaker A: Out he's got something going on there. I bet him on a top ten bet, and I'm wishing I'd put him top five, but I never saw that one coming. I'd listened to Dirty modo the other day, and they were talking like, yeah, actually, he's statistically pretty good here. So a top ten for him isn't too far out of the question. And it was at plus 500. [01:09:29] Speaker B: Wow. [01:09:29] Speaker A: So he just wasn't picked to do a great job at this racetrack. [01:09:34] Speaker B: And so you put that down. Perfect. [01:09:37] Speaker A: I ended up doubling my money this week at Homestead. I won one parlay and I won this AJ. Almondinger top ten bet. And both of them netted me double the cash I went into it with. I'd completely zeroed out my account and came out doubled. So I'll take it. [01:09:53] Speaker B: That's awesome. [01:09:54] Speaker A: But yeah, I didn't expect to see that either. Something about it. There must just be something about the way that it has a multiple grooves that he can just adjust to that with the road course knowledge. I don't know. Maybe I'm just talking out my ass. [01:10:09] Speaker B: But yeah, something about it. He's got it figured out. Yeah. [01:10:12] Speaker A: They always say Martinsville is a great track for him, too, so he might be another one to look at just because it usually leans into road course racers a little bit more. It's just all going to depend on what college puts underneath him, I guess. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Yep. But really cool. [01:10:26] Speaker A: Neat. Very neat. Little tidbit to pull out there. [01:10:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought that was really cool. Something else, like just going into the playoff. Guys. Three of the guys that we picked for the top four had problems. Larson. We've covered that already. Hamlin had a steering break. I originally thought he just blew a tire going in the corner. That's what it looked like. But I think they said tie rod. I want to say tie rod broke. I can't remember. Maybe that was Larson. Director's Tie Rod Maybe it was. [01:10:56] Speaker A: I didn't actually ever hear what exactly happened to that broken the steering. [01:11:00] Speaker B: They do know that. But it was never I want to say it was Tyrod. Either way, I can't remember. And then we hit on Truex, had a blow up, and he has just had just piss poor playoffs. All eight races so far have just been not good. There hasn't been one high note for him this last eight weeks. Not one single. [01:11:23] Speaker A: You know it's bad when you got the broadcasters talking about you like, man, he made it to the round eight simply off of regular season success. And the postseason has just been a travesty for him because if they didn't do it to themselves, it just happened to him by sheer dumb bad luck. [01:11:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it's been bad. It's one of the worst eight race spans in his whole career ever, including bush racing. Everything like the worst eight weeks he's ever had. [01:11:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm starting to wonder if him and his crew chief are sticking together. [01:12:00] Speaker B: After did you hear what he said on the radio? He said, I'm sick of this shit. I'm not doing it anymore. I was like, somebody posted on Twitter is like, the Truex just announced his retirement mid race. [01:12:11] Speaker A: I don't see it. [01:12:12] Speaker B: Well, he announced he's coming back. But he was all smiling and having fun over the summer and he's like, oh, we're coming back, and that's cool and all, but man, if he would have had another season the last eight races remind me of what he did all year last year. If he had a season like that this year, truex might have just said, fuck it, I'm out. [01:12:33] Speaker A: He might have, but I hope he doesn't. I like seeing him in there. He seems like a genuinely good dude and I like watching him race. [01:12:41] Speaker B: Totally. [01:12:42] Speaker A: Allison's a fan of him, so he was the first guy I was a fan of, so I hope we don't see a Martin Truex Jr. Retirement in the next two years. [01:12:50] Speaker B: I think next year it might be the retirement tour. I really do think that's next year's retirement tours. I also said this year was the last year for the Roval, and it's coming back, so I'm probably wrong. But he's only doing one year deals and he's definitely only going to do it till he has fun. If he quits having fun, I think he's done next year is anything like the last eight to ten weeks, he's probably out of this deal. Yeah. [01:13:17] Speaker A: I'm wondering what's going to happen to James Small, but we'll find out about that. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Have an interesting relationship, for sure. They do. [01:13:24] Speaker A: They like to play it off, but it gets a little bit personal at God Dang, this is also I don't. [01:13:30] Speaker B: Know if this is like the first time ever this has happened, but it's definitely a wild stat. Larson leads the NASCAR in DNFs, but also leads NASCAR with the most top fives and has tied for most wins in a season. Talk about checkers or records for Kyle Larson in 2023. [01:13:49] Speaker A: Yeah, he's either dominating or in the garage going through an infield care center. [01:13:58] Speaker B: It's crazy. [01:13:59] Speaker A: Checkup. [01:14:00] Speaker B: I don't know what is up with that, but that's insane to be leading in both of those categories. Like I said, I've never heard of that mean. I don't know. That's crazy. [01:14:12] Speaker A: I think he's just going into it with a mentality of I'm here to win or nothing else, and it works for him. You've heard Denny talk about it in a really cool way and I think you can kind of expand upon it to use it for other guys. But your level of risk management is completely different from driver to driver. Where one guy is like Larson, comfortable going in off of the wall as close as possible, trying to get maximum speed out of every corner they talk about. [01:14:44] Speaker B: Larson is just going to go balls of the walls, and he either wins races or bites him in the ass. And I've heard Denny talk about him that way in that same yeah, somebody. [01:14:54] Speaker A: Like Denny is going to come on the wall a little bit lower and this and that. They're going to race completely differently and the race might look like. It turns out the same way for both of them. They're both in the round of eight, they're both having great seasons, similar just it works better for Kyle to be all in at all times and it works better for Denny to be a bit more reserved at times and not take all these chances. They use going more for consistency, larson's going more for results and it's obviously working for both of them in a certain way. It's just really crazy to see those two styles put side by side like that. [01:15:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a great point. I've never really thought about them being that different but I mean they really are, they are completely different race car drivers and they both have great know, having eight DNFs and the old points would absolutely kill Larson and the playoffs. He know drive, I guess, the way he does. So maybe you could probably fight this battle too. The playoff system works better for Larson and then the old point series definitely looks better for a guy like Hamlin, even though yesterday I follow a page and you should totally do it if you don't. It's gotten super popular over the last couple of years but it updates the points in the Winston Cup format and it's just for fun and games. But they even have the old graphics like the exact way they used to post them back in the day. And I want to say Byron took over after the DNF yesterday. Byron took over the lead, but Hamlin has led most of the season and like you said, it's because Hamlin is a very consistent race car driver. [01:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's how you accrue points over the course of a season for sure. But problem is we're not in the win don't really matter. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah, we're not in the series no more. [01:16:49] Speaker A: It's all about the win. I mean the points can help you out, but a win is the only way to guarantee anything. So I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's the reason why Kyle Larson does so well in this playoff format. He came along at just the right time for his driving style is because he's going for the win. He does not give a damn about your points. [01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah. He's not what you need. I'm cool with running fifth kind of guy. [01:17:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:12] Speaker B: Which do you remember on Dirty Mo Doe when me and you first started listening to that this year, I want to say they talked about that because me and you had that same conversation. You're talking about betting. He was like, if you're going to bet a guy like Larson who pretty much runs top five every week, it's better to bet him on a top five or a win than a top five. Because if he doesn't if he doesn't win, he's probably not running top five. I remember them saying that. And we had this conversation, I think before we even had this podcast just talking about that and it's kind of what we're saying right now. It's just a very smart betting way and just knowing what you're talking about way to look at it, that's just the way they run. It's the way it is. And a guy like know he's going to get those top fives, which obviously Larson runs top know he's got the most top fives in the league. But I don't know. [01:17:59] Speaker A: Either way it is a cool note all the way around. [01:18:05] Speaker B: We talked about Martin just having a terrible playoff. We got Denny, Denny and MTJ. There is a way, like you said, he could point his way in, denny could going into Martinsville but it's like Denny and Martin are both great at Martinsville. But if I had to pick head to head, I'm taking Denny every day and twice on Sunday against Martin right now. [01:18:26] Speaker A: Yeah. If you're just going purely based off what's been going on lately, I don't care what true ex's stats are at Martinsville, I have lost my confidence. [01:18:39] Speaker B: My man is ice cold. [01:18:40] Speaker A: His ability. Yeah, he is worse than ice cold. I mean, he is worse than Chastain after Nashville. Right buddy? Truly, I don't get how he's managed to make it this far in the playoffs racing as poorly as he and I don't see that just getting suddenly flipped because we're at a track he's technically good at. Yeah, I don't been there's a dark cloud following that man everywhere he goes and it is raining constantly. [01:19:10] Speaker B: We're going to see too with what Denny decides to do. Like I said, they kind of talked about whether they're going to run for points, run for the race, win, whatever. They're going to be making some crazy calls. We touched on it. We don't have to go into it again. I know, but track position is going to be key so they're going to have to figure out what they're doing. [01:19:29] Speaker A: I'm going to make a determination that they're going to make a race day call. Race day strategy, how they qualify is going to determine if he qualifies really well. I think they're going to initially go for points. I think if they qualify really poorly they're going for the win. And if they get into this race and it gets I bet you you're going to find out what their strategy is right at the end of stage one. If they end up taking some wild pit strategy to get track position that could possibly ruin the long run, they're going for them. They're going for that win for sure. But you're not going to be able to know until the race comes because I think it's going to be determined by how they are running through stage one that tells them whether they're going for points or whether they're going for the win. But it's going to be so hard for them to make that call until. [01:20:18] Speaker B: After that be Martinsville is going to be interesting in that aspect just on what they all decide to do and how all that goes down. One of the last things that I had in the notes here to talk about and touch on was, and I kind of talked to you about it yesterday, something has kind of went on with the Fords in a good way. It has. Trended blaney ran great. RFK, usually when they run, it's like both cars run well. This is the first time I can remember offseason where the Six ran so great or either one. Just one ran so great and one ran so bad. I mean, busher ran awful. I mean, he was on a donkey. [01:20:57] Speaker A: He couldn't believe it. [01:20:59] Speaker B: Terrible. And I didn't see that coming at all. And the Six had a great car. He just hit the wall too many times and had some issues there. But he had a great car. And then the team we have shit on all year long actually ended up finishing having a decent day for what it was. They had a 9th, 11th, 13th and 17th. And the team I am talking about is SHR. [01:21:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Where did that come from? [01:21:25] Speaker B: I don't know. And the highest finishing one was Almarola, my favorite driver. [01:21:29] Speaker A: Your favorite driver ever. [01:21:31] Speaker B: Yeah. He really killed it there. 11th was he really killed it. 11th was Harvick, 13th was Priest. And 17th is something. They're not crazy. I know. RFK has been dominant Ford all year long, especially the last half of the year, three quarters of the year. But something has happened. That shock thing, something they're doing something. I don't know what it is, but hey, boards have looked better in the last two weeks than they've looked all year. [01:22:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Everybody always says, man, if you're going to have a good moment, have a good moment towards the end. But I don't think they were talking like within five races of the season being over. I think we were talking more like maybe at the beginning of the playoffs, maybe we're going to find something. [01:22:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:19] Speaker A: It's like I love it as a Blaney fan, but man, there was a whole lot of Fords that got eliminated out of the rounds as it went on because it took them so long to find whatever it was. But I agree with you. Loving it from my guy. But it is screwed a lot of others. [01:22:33] Speaker B: To put it in perspective, this was Blaney's first top five outside of Talladega. Sent t one at the 600 gross. So it's been a climb, you know what I mean? It's been a stretch to get the Fords there for sure. [01:22:50] Speaker A: I know, man. I really, genuinely thought that we would know that Blaney would be out by the end of the Homestead race. I think in my mind we were going into Martinsville with man, what a good season. I'm glad we did it. He's in one race away, but. Now there is a genuine level of hope. The only thing we haven't seen so far is what this new Ford looks like on a short track. They have found something new, hope to God. It translates hope to God. We can come out of here with a good result because all he's got to do is just protect his point lead. [01:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got to win this stage point. He's got to get stage points. So there was a time, I can't remember when Bubble was in the same sort of situation, but it's like kind of that if you can average fifth to 6th in each stage and a fifth to 6th in the race, you're going to be all right. But you can literally do what Busher did last week and finish 11th, 11th, 11th, which is a great day overall, but you're going to lose your ass on point. So like Blaney having just a top ten if guys like Hammonding them to get points. Now, obviously, this is what I'm saying, but if Blaney just runs 10th, it's probably not going to be enough if those other guys get points. [01:23:58] Speaker A: That's my biggest problem with Blaney only being ten points up, is that True X and Hamlin are both really good at Martinsville, so all they got to go out there and do is just be True X and Hamlin at Martinsville and they will get stage points. Blaney, I don't know if I can say that with the same level of conviction. So he does have to go out there and have one of his better Martinsville races and he's got to protect that points lead however he can. Or hope to God both of those JGR guys have problems because even Reddick, that's another guy to worry about. You just got a whole herd of people behind you that are all capable of surpassing you by ten. [01:24:39] Speaker B: I think it was last week they were talking about Bush or finishing 11th. He was the lowest finishing guy out of the eight 11th, you know what I mean? So, yeah, if you're not running pretty much Eigth or better, you're getting beat pretty bad in the way just because the top eight, man, are the best eight of the year, you know what I mean? Those are the guys that are having best average finishes. They're going to run there. They didn't just get to the round of eight. We kind of joked about True X, but Truex had an incredible regular season that's got him there. I know the last couple of weeks have been bad, at last eight weeks have been bad, but he's still one of the best cars in the field, you know what I mean? So it's just one of those things. I didn't have anything written down about trucks or Xfinity. I didn't know get too deep in those. My boy Clegg finished 7th. I know that had a top five bet on him. I had a top five bet on Dell Jr. That hit, which was cool. I've made three bets on Dell Jr. This year, and two of the three have hit. So it's pretty dope. [01:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:37] Speaker B: It sounded like you had a good day betting yesterday. You've doubled your money. [01:25:41] Speaker A: I did. [01:25:42] Speaker B: That's great. [01:25:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I had the Almond Dinger top ten, and then I had a parlay set up, both of which were underdog picks. But I picked Chase Elliott to beat Chris Busher, which was a brave pick. And I know it was a brave pick, but the only thing in my head was, man, Chase could just definitely come out here and have a fairly good day at Homestead. I could see that happening. I'm going to pick the underdog here and go with Chase. [01:26:09] Speaker B: And he didn't have a good day. Buster just had a horrible day. [01:26:13] Speaker A: He didn't have a good day. Buster just did have a worse one. And so it worked out. And then I had Eric Jones beating Daniel Suarez, because Eric Jones has been on a hot streak, and Daniel Suarez probably is looking as his last two rides in his current equipment, man, he's. [01:26:28] Speaker B: Called his last two. [01:26:32] Speaker A: Different headspaces. But I think Daniel Suarez is like a negative 130 favorite for that matchup. And I was like, no way. [01:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:39] Speaker A: No way. Eric Jones doesn't come out here and at least get a couple of positions higher than him. [01:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:45] Speaker A: I don't even know what the result looked like. Let me see if I can find it here. But I knew for a fact there was no way that Danny Suarez, with. [01:26:54] Speaker B: His. [01:26:56] Speaker A: Lack of next year commitment rise, was going to beat Eric Jones. Eric Jones finished in 14th and Daniel Suarez finished in 16th. [01:27:06] Speaker B: There you go. [01:27:06] Speaker A: Chase Elliott finished in 15th and beat Chris Busher by a whopping good few positions. [01:27:14] Speaker B: I think Busher finished, like, in the yeah, 21st. [01:27:17] Speaker A: So six positions there. [01:27:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:20] Speaker A: So, yeah, I ended up winning that parlay and the Almond Dinger top five bet or the top ten bet, that ended up being a solid day for me. So I'll take it. [01:27:28] Speaker B: I kind of said on here earlier, I bet differently this weekend than I have all year. I pretty much just put all my money on Larson that I would normally bet on a race. I did two little parlays that were goofy, but other than that, it was all Larson for me and would have been huge day, but it wasn't in the cards. Speaking what you're saying about Hack of the Week, the award you the award. [01:27:54] Speaker A: Nobody wants, but you got to earn the hard way. Let's go. [01:27:57] Speaker B: Here it is, giving it what you got, driver Kyle fucking Larson getting on pit road. [01:28:04] Speaker A: We did not pre plan this. We didn't talk about Hack of the Week at all before this started. I haven't even scrolled far enough down to see that you put. [01:28:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that's terrible. [01:28:15] Speaker A: I wish I could read that. But that's terrible. Oh, man. [01:28:19] Speaker B: What I wrote in the notes is not podcast. [01:28:21] Speaker A: No, that is not podcast material. [01:28:23] Speaker B: But probably can't say that on the pod. [01:28:25] Speaker A: Is it funny? [01:28:26] Speaker B: Is it true? So Larson, he's got the crown. We went in all in at the beginning. I don't have nothing else to say about Larson screwing up that the hack. [01:28:34] Speaker A: Of the week award is so unpopular. It even burned in the fire. And I didn't even try to save it. [01:28:39] Speaker B: Damn. [01:28:42] Speaker A: We're not running with it. [01:28:45] Speaker B: I thought for trading paint. I love that 23, the Grimace car. The little flames on the side like it fit perfect. The Grimace car was great. I thought the 45 looked stupid. I hated the 45 car. It just had a bunch of like a zebra. [01:29:04] Speaker A: I didn't really get a good look at it at any point. I never really paid too much crazy attention to that. [01:29:09] Speaker B: 45 was the Hamburglar. They had the Hamburglar and the Grimace together. The Grimace car looks so awesome. And the 45 literally like a zebra. So he gets my not trading paint. And then for an honorable mention. This was cool. This was cool. Harvick's 2014 throwback Budweiser championship car. They even put the yellow number on the roof. I was like, that was the icing on the cake. That was when he won the championship. I was like, that's pretty cool. [01:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it was really neat. And that commercial that ran in the middle of the race with him talking. [01:29:39] Speaker B: To Josh Berry was awesome. [01:29:41] Speaker A: That was they as far as I could tell, they were treating this race like it was the last race he was ever going to run. And I know it was emotional because it was where he won his championship at. But man, that was a really cool moment. Giving a lot of credit to Kevin Harvick for what he's done for the sport. It's going to be sad to see him go, but thank goodness he's becoming a broadcaster so we don't have to worry about missing him for too long. [01:30:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he'll be right back at Daytona. And I mean, it goes without saying, kevin Harvick is the first ballot hall of Famer legend of the sport with like 60 plus wins and a championship and just everything the dude's done. He's a legend. So everything they do for him is they rodney Childers gave the command to start engines. They had him lead the field there for a minute. And I'm sure Phoenix where he is his best track, statistically, dude has like a million wins there. I'm sure Phoenix there is going to be big time stuff going on at Phoenix. I'm ready to see what the throwback car, what they do. I'm ready to see all that. That'll be exciting. Yeah. [01:30:43] Speaker A: Getting closer every. [01:30:46] Speaker B: I guess we're going. [01:30:47] Speaker A: To look forward to a good Martinsville race. I just looked up Blaney's stats there at Martinsville. I was completely wrong. He actually is pretty strong. So there we go. I think it's going to turn out to be a good day. I think it was like he finished in the top five twice the last three races, hoping and praying he stays there. I am, dude, I am. [01:31:05] Speaker B: It'd be a fun weekend. If larson and blaney are both fighting. [01:31:08] Speaker A: For the so, I would love it, man. It'd give us something to argue about. And finally I'd get to watch my driver in the top four for the first time ever. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm very nervous. I'm excited. Let's hope it works out for us. [01:31:21] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:31:22] Speaker A: I need another diecast to wait a year on. [01:31:26] Speaker B: All right, people, it's been an hour and 31 minutes and 9 seconds. So we'll go ahead and get off here. Quit talking. As always, my name is dawson edwards. You can find me on dawson edwards music across the board. Raised rowdy racing on everything across the board. [01:31:42] Speaker A: Caleb and I'm at caleb conroddy. You can follow me and follow my house fire. Cleaning up the bullshit journey. It's not fun. Hell yeah. But thank you guys for listening. Hope y'all enjoyed it. [01:31:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Peace. [01:31:58] Speaker A: And go out and live the hell out of your life. God damn it. [01:32:01] Speaker B: Tell people you love them. [01:32:02] Speaker A: Yeah, do that. [01:32:03] Speaker B: We love y'all. We'll see you all next week. [01:32:05] Speaker A: Love y'all. Audios. [01:32:11] Speaker B: I don't drive a Monte Carlo and my truck ain't painted black. It ain't got a big white number three turning left around a track. But you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away. These good? Years can't handle dirt, don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door checkers record my foot hammered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl earn hardback, don't say good ring ain't never.