S2 Episode 20: Overtime in Nashville!

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is Ray's rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. [00:00:13] Speaker B: All right, get a shot of whiskey. He said, I think you gotta go do it right now. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Damn right now. Oh, calling me out. [00:00:18] Speaker B: You said it as the ticker went down on the thing. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Yeah, Dawson's over here. I'm fired up. I'm fired up, too. I guess I gotta do a shot of whiskey now. Give me 1 second. [00:00:30] Speaker B: It's in the kitchen as the timers going on and then not expect it to carry on into the conversation. [00:00:37] Speaker A: Yeah. This is going to turn into like a normal Travis tritz show. I'm going to be. If you ain't three whiskey shots in by the time he gets to any more, me and you are watching a different Travis Tritz show. I'll be right back. [00:00:47] Speaker B: I got some of that Luke combs beer up here. The six. He does a deal with Miller light, the 16oz. The beer never broke my heart. It's a. It's what they sell at the concerts, but they now they sell it in the. In the grocery stores now. So I got a couple beers popped. Caleb's getting him a whiskey shot here. I'm assume he's going to come back with Crown Royal. Here he comes. Two. Two beers and a bottle of crown. Here we go. [00:01:16] Speaker A: I got to throw back on. I didn't expect all this to go down listening to my computer whine. My computer's hot. I'm hot. I've been hot. So been a long weekend. [00:01:28] Speaker B: It was even hotter in Nashville. [00:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was even hotter in Nashville. All right, here's the Dawson Edwards. May he ever one time, sometime in his lifetime, do a shot with me. Hey, right after the bottle, man, where it is. Oh, man. I feel like that was that splash of gas that Larson needed to finish the race right there. [00:01:51] Speaker B: Let's just start out with this. Where. Where did Joey Logano get all his gas from, man? Okay. I've heard running long on gas. I've heard running long. I've heard it 30 to 40 laps longer, though. I mean, what in the hell? [00:02:05] Speaker A: The only thing that I was, I was thinking this, and then Denny Hamlin said it on his podcast, too, and I was like, damn, this is going to sound like I'm ripping Denny off. [00:02:12] Speaker B: I haven't heard Denny's podcast yet, so. [00:02:15] Speaker A: It'S going to sound like I'm ripping them off to anybody that's already listened to it. I totally get it, but I was kind of thinking this before, and I think he just found words to put it into. But my thought was, and later on, not confirmed by Denny, but at least agreed to this is a possibility, was that being back in the back of the pack where he was, I wonder if he was just off the throttle a whole lot more. One, because he can draft down the straightaways, and two, because you've got to plan out your entry so much better. You've got to have more off throttle time. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, Chris Gaveheart posted it on Twitter like he was slow in all capital letters is how he saved that much gas. But here again, that's 30 something miles worth of gas. I mean, that's a lot of gas. [00:03:01] Speaker A: It is. But a lot of those were caution laps. I mean, all they were doing was making it to turn one for at least two of those restarts at the end there. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Still still. I'm just saying, still, still a lot of gas. [00:03:11] Speaker A: You just kill the. Kill the engine right there. You could probably coast once you get to turn one with the speed that you're carrying there, I bet you they can coast all the way around to the middle of turn four. And by the time they have to flip on again. [00:03:23] Speaker B: I'm not being Mister conspiracy, I'm just saying. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Seen a car? [00:03:26] Speaker A: Where did he get it? [00:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I was mind blown. Somebody, somebody posted like, I'm not saying they're cheating, but the, the. That fuel tank would make smokey unit unit compressed. [00:03:39] Speaker A: I was like, was their fuel line. [00:03:43] Speaker B: I was blown. And then on completely wild. On top of that, there was no tire fall off in this race. And I was hoping that because of it being so hot, they were going to slick and hot and be slipping around and all this. There was no tire wear for a whole entire run. They did not even have a full second of fall off. [00:04:08] Speaker A: It was unbelievable. [00:04:09] Speaker B: They ran qual. [00:04:10] Speaker A: 188 was the last time that Joey Galagano changed left side tires. Lap 188. [00:04:17] Speaker B: That's like almost the race was 300 laps, right? [00:04:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. 150 with the caution laps. That was. Are the extra laps at the end. That was basically halfway race. Cuz that wide 188 multiplied would put you right about. Right about in that area. [00:04:34] Speaker B: That is so damn stupid. That is. Yeah, that is such a. That is. I was just. I was watching it go down and then I didn't realize there were so many different people putting in so many different things going on. I didn't know when didn't win. Legano pitted and when I saw that later, I was like, you gotta be shitting me. That's embarrassing in my opinion. Like, that is ridiculous. [00:04:57] Speaker A: I mean, it's impressive. Just on the 22s part. The tires, though, that's that. [00:05:03] Speaker B: I completely agree that half a race on a set of tires? You gotta be kidding me. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it was absolutely nuts. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Same thing they did. [00:05:13] Speaker A: It only left side tires, the right sides. He did have to change them, but he changed those still. Lap 198 or whatever, it was 195 or something like that. So, I mean, it wasn't that many more laps that he had on those right sides. And like you said, fall off of less than a second. I saw Larson's tire at one point. Marty smart, Marty Snyder is trying to convince me that it's courted. And while, yes, I can see the white of the chords, it was not courting yet. Yeah, it was just showing chords. The only tire fricking 25 laps to give an actual cord to come unwound in there. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Only tire where I saw all weekend was brackets allows key tires. After he slid 200 yards and backed it into the fence. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a rough wreck, too. That was a lot of back end rough wrecks. [00:06:01] Speaker B: And that freaking car, it blows me away. We have seen guys bump the wall and break parts on that car. That I would have been like, that car is totally fine looking at it. And then you see Brad Keselowski back into the wall so hard that his knee bent his steering wheel. And they finished the race only one lap down in 24th. 25th place. [00:06:24] Speaker A: 25Th place. [00:06:25] Speaker B: What in the absolute hell is up with that? Yeah, there's no consistent. Not that. Not that there has to be consistency with regs. I'm just saying there are race cars that look perfectly fine that have to be stopped on pit road because they can't drive anymore. And then you can hit that car backwards going probably 130 miles an hour, so hard that his knee bends the steering wheel. Brad, I wish we could see it. [00:06:48] Speaker A: I need to see that. That's insane. I can't believe. I can't imagine how bad that hurt. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So I texted brand. I was texted you in the group with Brandon and said, dude, I've never heard. In my whole entire life, I have never heard of a race car driver ask for a new steering wheel. And when he said that, I was like, did he wreck so hard the steering wheel is bent? First off, you wreck so hard that you bend your steering wheel. I have no idea how your car is still rolling. And he finished the race. The interior guy went down to the other pit box, grabs a box that has a brand new wheel in it. They take the bent wheel off, put it on there, and then Brandon sent us the video. Brad hits the wall backwards. His knees come up and hit the steering wheel, and it whomps it like this because his right knee hits it like this. So say the steering wheels this way. It bends it like this. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Completely plate in half. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And so hit the top of his thigh is probably so bruised and sore and swollen right now on Tuesday that you, I mean, you, I just couldn't even, I would, I couldn't even imagine how sore and bruised it probably is in that car was. They did go three laps down because of all the cautions they had back all the way to 25th and the car was still running. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Dude, there was a lot of wild finishes despite incident or bad pit strategy, all sorts of different stuff going on, but you're gonna have that when you're coming down to five overtime restarts and a fuel mileage race all combined into one. I mean, it's just the biggest cluster of trying to predict where anyone's going to finish at all. Yeah, it was just absolutely. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Wow. I'm, I don't know where you stand. I don't know if you ever talked about it. I'm here for overtime finishes because I was around back in the day and even at races when a wreck would happen with four to go on the back stretch, and then that's just it. And that is the biggest let down in the absolute world. [00:08:37] Speaker A: I think it's absolutely, completely dumb that we're even having a, like, I get why you're bringing it up because it's been brought up a shitload. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:45] Speaker A: I think it's absolutely stupid that the one time we have a record setting number of overtime restarts. I get that that's a big deal and that should be talked about, but why the hell is everybody so quick to ask, should we do this? Should we not? Yeah, you're talking about a rule that's been in place for what, five, six years now that they have unlimited restarts. Because it wasn't that way when I started watching in 21. It was very recent. After they. [00:09:10] Speaker B: It's came in, I'm pretty positive how it was. It came in, you had one shot at a green, white, checkered, finished overtime, one shot. Then it went from one to three. And then at some point here recently, it's been unlimited. [00:09:22] Speaker A: It was like 2018, 2019. [00:09:24] Speaker B: And I think it's, it is worse. It is the absolute worst, especially when there was no overtime. You have a shot there. I, I'm just saying Dale Earnhardt only and I. This is going to be, people are going to rail me for this. Dale Earnhardt won the Daytona 500 under caution in 1998. Like, we didn't get to see a true finish to one of the greatest races ever. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah, and it is what it is. [00:09:50] Speaker B: Back then, it was all the time. It happened all the time. So I don't wreck at the end or fucking this new thing. They're not. Wrecks happen at the end of a race. And you paid money to see the end of that game. We don't see. We don't go to baseball games. And they don't just end it. Yeah, they play over unlimited innings. Baseball, football, they only do one quarter. It sucks that football games can tie. I hate that, and so does everybody else. But college football games, they do not tie. They will go unlimited overtime. Everybody does unlimited overtime. And they play. [00:10:29] Speaker A: Someone actually win. [00:10:31] Speaker B: Yeah, they play a full quarter. So if you don't like overtimes, get out. Get out of here. [00:10:37] Speaker A: You don't like racing enough? It's more racing. It was 31 free laps that your ticket didn't actually pay for. Yeah, you got for free. [00:10:46] Speaker B: My favorite thing is all these people that aren't team owners talking about how much money it costed. It's not your money. It's not your. The only people that should have opinion on it are those owners. It's not your money. Just sit back and enjoy it. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Nothing makes me more mad than people talking about billionaires saving money. Like, I don't care to save Rick Hendrick money. He's a great dude. You've got plenty of money. You don't need it saved. I don't. [00:11:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:10] Speaker A: I want more practice. I want the clash to come back to Daytona. I want all these different things that they always eliminate and say, oh, it's about saving teams money. [00:11:20] Speaker B: Yeah, but they want to give it. [00:11:21] Speaker A: Less because, hey, more money to see these things go down. You worried about not making enough money? I would pay more money to see more of these things. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:32] Speaker A: But here we are, where the. Yeah, exactly. They're just so worried about it and worried about the wrecks and everything else. The only reason that race went to five plus overtimes is because everybody was running out of the gas the front of the field. I mean, that's 90% of what caused the two of the bigger Rex was. [00:11:51] Speaker B: People to run out of messing around back in the back for 30th place. [00:11:55] Speaker A: And that's a tale as old as time. That's just hot Nashville weather, making the jack wagons think even less than they already do. [00:12:01] Speaker B: Yep. Just. I don't. I enjoyed the race, but it was such a. It was my first time ever seeing a Nashville race. Not from the crowd. You as well? Yeah. So it was kind of. That was funny. That was interesting to me because I've never even seen the Nashville from a camera ever. That's. [00:12:24] Speaker A: I would always go back home and rewatch it just so. I've never kept anything that I might have missed. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I've never watched one on the tv or anything. And it was from what I. What I thought going into that race, it's just a little bit still. It's not a mile and a half, and it's a little more just like all these guys says. It races like a short track. It had so much of that short track vibe to it that they were having such a hard time to pass that it brought back that crane racing that we talk about. You had. You had these guys. You had bell dominate the race, put Bell in the back, couldn't pass a single car. Car run like horseshit. You put Kyle Busch, who was multiple laps down and running 36th in this race, drove up. Once he got there on strategy, once he got to the top five, he stayed in the top five. It was such a crane race, which is what everybody describes the short track races are. That's what yesterday or Sunday was, for the most part, until the end, where it got absolutely bonkers. But you could take a car. The only car in this whole entire field that could pass race cars was Justin Haley. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Denny ham one, too. He could pass race cars. [00:13:39] Speaker B: He could. But Justin Haley definitely passed more. [00:13:43] Speaker A: That's. That's probably true. I think me and you have a different reaction to it. I had more fun watching it than I did one of the short track races like you're talking about, because it. [00:13:53] Speaker B: Me, too. Me, too. That's why. That's why it wasn't terrible. I'm just. [00:13:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Had that aspect to it. [00:13:58] Speaker A: But where I want it from is watching when people actually are having to pass each other. What I thought was fun was that the go to pass for almost every car on the track was get a good run off of four, get side by side going into one, dive into one on the inside, and then wash up the track. Wash up the track and make the guy on your outside go so far out into the fuzz that he gets dropped back. And it was like you had to muscle your way around cars. And the one person I saw on the racetrack that did it better than anyone else was Kyle Larson. The entire time, Larson was going out there and being aggressive as hell, to be honest. Kyle Larson, yesterday on the racetrack was an absolute menace. And it was so much fun to watch because he did not give a damn if you were in front of him. He knew that his only way to get around you was to be as aggressive as humanly possible without wrecking. And he did it every time. And I had a hell of a time watching it because he was just fun to watch him get around other cars because I know he had about ten motherfuckers pissed off at him after that race was over. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Yeah. The only reason I brought up Justin Haley is because he has that pretty raise penalty, and then he comes in, has to do the pit stop, go freaking one lap down. He's running dead last. And the dude drove up, back into the top ten and finished, I think, 11th. [00:15:22] Speaker A: Justin Haley, you said, sorry. Allison tried to call me right in the middle of that. He finished in 13th. [00:15:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So what a. Again, what a race to have. They pre raised penalty, do the drive through go a lap down. He's driving not to go two laps down, and he drives all the way back up. He was in 10th there for a thick part of the back end of that race. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah, he definitely did a. He did a good job of recovering from a bunch of wacky circumstances. Definitely a bunch of wacky circumstances. Getting put lap down within the first couple laps of the race due to that penalty. I was just. I felt for him because I didn't hear about that until I re watched the race this morning when I was in live Oak and I saw Justin Haley's getting passed on the 13th lap. I was like, what the hell is going on with the 51? Like, they must have showed up with the wrong car. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:14] Speaker A: And then I've come to find out he was under penalty and had to go through pit road. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Yeah. They failed inspection since. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:20] Speaker B: The same thing Logano had to do. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Didn't they, like, do it, do some sort of alteration to the car after just. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, they adjusted on the car. [00:16:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I just. I really wish I could have been a fly on the wall for Denny Hamlin's team under the next caution after Justin cost them the lead. That first little run. Run. [00:16:39] Speaker B: That was his race. He was fighting for his race right there. [00:16:44] Speaker A: And he earned it. [00:16:45] Speaker B: And he earned it. And it saved it. Saved that whole entire race for them. [00:16:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Ended up with a 13th place finish when they could have been two laps down from the very root. Like, that would have been detrimental. Absolutely. [00:16:57] Speaker B: That would have been the end of it. He's racing that. He had to do that to get to save the race. I mean, that just had no problem. [00:17:03] Speaker A: With it at all. I had zero problem with it. I just really wish I was a fly on their crew. I know that they said Denny didn't say anything on the radio, but I really want to know how he felt about it. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think Denny probably just realizes the situation. It was early and whatever, but yeah. [00:17:18] Speaker A: We'Ll have a chance later. [00:17:20] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'm not saying all that to say, like, I did not hate the race. The race was good. It wasn't like my favorite race of all time, but it was a good race. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Oh, I enjoyed the hell out of it. [00:17:30] Speaker B: And there was just certain things that just like, naturally stuff happens during a race and I'm just like, get pissed off, you know, naturally there's a few things that just like, you gotta be kidding me, man. [00:17:43] Speaker A: It definitely had a few of those. I think the heat played into it a lot. I think drivers were just, it's like that video you sent me not too long ago. When you're on a work site and it's nice and pretty outside, or it's nice and cold and you leave something in the truck and it makes you have to take like a 30 minutes walk back, your buddy's gonna look at you and be like, oh man, don't worry about it, I'll go get it. It's all fine. And then as soon as you put them in 115 degree weather, golly, you got darn mother. What? What's good for you and this and that, just yelling at each other. That's exactly how I felt. The Nashville race went. Was just a bunch of guys out there where normally you do something and it's not that big of a deal. And this time you do something and Carson Hosvar is going to right hook you into caution. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Oh God. Carson Hosovar is the ultimate hack. I posted that on Twitter. He is the ultimate hack. I'm off the train. Not that I really ever was on the train. It's hilarious. Again, Zane Smith has a top ten on a non plate track before Corey Lajoy. I'll give him his, I'll give him credit when credit is due, how good he is. Ran this year. But he has so much of that b's in him that he cannot get away from it. [00:18:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I just, I really think that in the cup series he's not going to be able to get away with it for very long. [00:19:04] Speaker B: So square between the eyes, without a doubt. [00:19:08] Speaker A: But I gotta always remind myself he's 21 years old. And I know that's old enough to have to answer for your decisions, but it's definitely young enough to where you're gonna make some stupid ones along the way. [00:19:17] Speaker B: Totally. [00:19:18] Speaker A: I think that's exactly what he's going through right now. [00:19:20] Speaker B: I think we've talked about before, 20, 119, or 87. If you're in the cup race, you were held to a certain standard. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Doesn't matter. What is going to get under caution is not up to that standard. [00:19:35] Speaker A: Didn't he get penalized already? [00:19:37] Speaker B: No, that's the why everybody's freaking out. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Dang wild. I think. I don't think that's something that goes on for the rest of his career. I think he gets that stuff figured. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Out because I'm not worried about nose, exactly. [00:19:52] Speaker A: I mean, it's either he's going to get punched in the nose, he's going to get wrecked, or he's not going to be able to do anything in the cup series for a little bit because nobody's going to give him the room because everyone just expects, oh, this guy's going to be a dick if I don't. Well, he's gonna be that way even if I do. So fine, I'll just make it. I'll make his life harder. So I think that's something that will. He's either gonna learn and fix it, or he's gonna not be in the cup series for very much longer because he keeps on pissing everybody off. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Whenever your ride dries up, you're gonna need somewhere to go. And if you piss off every team in the garage, you're gonna have nowhere left that wants you. [00:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I just thought that was so, so overdevelop. Over the line for what the situation was. I mean, harrison blocked him on the back stretch, which every single driver in that field blocks everyone, especially in today's times. And you're going to get so over the top under caution, where you speed up under caution, hit a guy in the ass and then right hook him. I was one of those things. I just was. If I was here as a Burton, I'd set his bus on fire. I mean, I would have been so mad. So mad. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. There's definitely plenty of examples of people doing that kind of stuff and getting penalties, so it's not without president, and it definitely warrants one. So I'm right there with you. [00:21:09] Speaker B: I talked about on DBC last week. He calls it he wrecked himself under caution to get a caution, just like he used to do in the truck series. Yep. SMT had it where he goes in the corner, slams on the gas, gets tire spin and hits the brakes, spins it out. No penalty, no nothing. So until something happens, whether it is someone does it to him or NASCAR steps in, it's going to keep happening until some, some, there's some repercussion somewhere. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Oh, without a doubt. I'm just, I'll wait and see what those repercussions are. In the meantime, it's keeping me plenty entertained just watching him do his thing. And I'm, I'm here for it. How hard he's been driving and how good he's been doing. But, yeah, that's something that's pretty inexcusable. So until he gets that kind of stuff figured out, it'd be hard pressed to call myself a fan. I used to hate that guy, and he's definitely won me over a little bit more. So I can't just throw it all back and take all that back just for one bad incident in a really hot, tough race. But, yeah, we'll just see how it goes going forward. I can imagine that Harrison's going to have something to do about it in the next two weeks or so. [00:22:14] Speaker B: I hope so. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Maybe not at the street course, because I don't think you're even going to see Harrison Burton making about three corners in that street course before he wrecks out. But we'll see what he get, we'll see what he does on the week after. [00:22:27] Speaker B: He's not going to be in that car anymore, so. [00:22:30] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And it's not going to be Chase Briscoe, so who knows who's going to take it over? Maybe. Maybe Carson is going to take over. [00:22:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think that's happened either. But Adam Stern posted the day on Twitter that it's Josh Barry's ride. So we'll, they said they're making an announcement on Wednesday, tomorrow, so I'd love to hear that. [00:22:52] Speaker A: I really want to see where Josh Barry ends up, and I think that's a great organization for Josh. He seems like such a homegrown kind of guy that I feel like a family owned team like that is somewhere. I feel like he could thrive. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Speaking of Josh Barry, didn't he? Oh, no. He got wrecked out there at the end. He was running really good up until the end. [00:23:12] Speaker B: He got spun out. One of those cautions was down the grass. [00:23:16] Speaker A: It was a hell of a day for SHR, in a weird way. [00:23:20] Speaker B: Two top tens. [00:23:22] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. And guess who made. Guess who made a bet I was gonna exact two top tens, man. Dude, I. That was the only bet. So for everybody back at home, all eleven of you. Sorry, Megan. I'm still gonna say eleven. It's too funny not to. I put this bet in after listening to dirty mode o because I've watched Ryan Priest win at Nashville in person, and he won it, I think, a second time, and then. So I knew he could race this racetrack. And then Noah Gregson's been doing really good, and I thought, maybe something will happen here. He's running pretty good on concrete. So I put a double top ten bet in Ryan Priest at plus 700, parlayed with Noah Gregson at plus 360, which means that this bethe was plus 3000. 583,580 for both of them to get a top ten, which is astronomical odds. And they ended up. Ryan was the better finisher. When I thought he was going to be the guy that got wrecked out at some point, and I never would see it. He was the better finisher. And Gregson ended right at 10th place. And I was watching that battle at the very end of the race because I didn't check my bet until I watched this morning. I watched that race at the very end. It was him. And I can't remember who he was racing against, but they were just neck and neck for 10th place and ended up pulling it out. So $2 turned into about 75. So I was. That's easily the best bet I've ever placed. [00:24:55] Speaker B: I think that's the best bet either one of us. I think that's the highest hitting bet we've ever. Like me and between me and you have ever had. Because the biggest one I ever had was the $5 bet that won 75. I don't know what those odds would have been. And yours was a $2 bet that hit 75. So, yeah, that's probably the highest hitting odds bet between me and you that's ever been hit, I think. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was awesome. I was here for it. Cause I was like, oh, my God, I think I hit that. And it was the only bet I made all weekend. And it happened to be probably the best money bet I've ever made. And I posted it on Twitter and tagged Alex Tim's the tampa Tim's guy on dirty modo. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:25:32] Speaker A: I tagged him in it and said, this is all credit due to y'all for giving Steve Latart, Ryan priest to finish in top ten, because Steve was giving them a whole bunch of crap for making that bit or making that pick. And he responded back and said, man, you playing with house money for the rest of the year. Congrats. So it just cracked me up. [00:25:50] Speaker B: Yeah, that's awesome. [00:25:53] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. I'll take my wins and I'll go home because now I've got some money to bet with for the rest of the year. Hopefully I want to put any more money in because that usually doesn't happen. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a, that's a good time. I made, I made four bets and I had Chastain top five, which was hidden, which was hit. [00:26:12] Speaker A: It wasn't until it was. [00:26:15] Speaker B: And then I had Reddick, Larson and Keselowski all to win. And at one point, for the whole second and part of the third stage, they were running 2nd, third and fourth. And I was like, yeah, I am sitting in good shape right here. And then I just wasn't. But then, then, though, at the end of the race, I told Lindsey, I was like, reddick is. Has the best tires and everything of all these guys here at the end. And I'm not sure where he lined up at. And then he was coming on the last part and I was like, holy shit, he's going to win this race. And then he ran high. I just wish he would have ran low if he could have got down there because all I know how to do at that point was just slide up, take his laneway, and then it's between him and the wall. So, yeah, that's the easiest one to go. I wish. I wish Reddick could have got low and got up under Legano and then could have ran him high. That would have been awesome. [00:27:09] Speaker A: But, yeah, that's the problem. When the guy goes low and you go high, all he's got to do is let go of steering wheel and he's right in front of you. [00:27:16] Speaker B: Yep. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Whereas if you go low, even if he goes low right in front of you, at least there's nowhere for him to block you to. [00:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah. So that was where I was. I was really thought coming to that on that when he was there, I was like, he's got the tires, he's got the gas. I was like, he's got this. And then Logano just never ran out of gas or anything. And I was like, holy shit. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Just a. It was a rough end of the day for Reddick, for sure. And you could tell in his interview he was deject. He was down bad. Dude. I get it, though. I mean, when you're that close at a good race that you should definitely be in contention to win over a car that's run 14th place all day. You finished second and third in the stages, and you're racing against a guy that's barely managed to see the top ten. Yeah, it's, uh, it's just a tough way to. It's a tough l to take. For sure. That's what the arrow blocking does for you. [00:28:11] Speaker B: He's in the playoffs now. But I. Logano has. Unless they just come on to some insane run, which I don't see it yet, because they ain't had speed nowhere except Northboro. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:21] Speaker B: They didn't have speed yesterday, and it took five over times and half the field reckon half the field run out of gas to get there. Yes, he's in agree, which is great, what you're saying. That is the most non threatening. He's like Suarez in the playoffs. That is the most non threatening playoff driver of the. However many are locked in eight or nine. However, I don't even know however many are locked in. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you are exactly right. The. The four first people out of the playoffs are easily going to be the 99, the 22, the two, and whoever else points in. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that's going to be. I mean, I agree. [00:28:56] Speaker A: Logano. I will be the first one to say Logano is a. Is a good enough driver that if they can just figure out their race cars and put their program back where it needs to be, that dude could come in with zero playoff points and be a threat to get to the championship round. He's that good of a driver. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:14] Speaker A: I just don't. I. His team has not had that moment yet where you could say they have something in the tank right now. It's like we're running on half a tank and hoping to God we get. [00:29:26] Speaker B: There just like they were race. [00:29:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause, I mean, you even look back to the championships that he. The championship that he won and the championship that Blaney won. While they may have both had to get to the end of the year before they finally had the good enough run to make it happen, they each, in their individual championship seasons, showed strength throughout the year of running in the top ten, running in the top five, almost getting a win here, running fairly poorly at other places, don't get me wrong. But they had those moments where they really shined through, and they seemed like a normal contending for the win type of day. This year, Joey Logano really has not had that. He's never once been contending for those big moments like that until. Right. Just then, where he just kind of lucks into one and gets it because of all the factors that you just said, so I. It's just hard to. Hard to say that this wins really going to change anything for them. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just you. You're in. That's cool. [00:30:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:27] Speaker B: But that's what kind of drives me nuts about the 16 guys being in the playoffs is you always. You have those guys every single year that just barely get in or just snuck out a win here or whatever, and then. Yeah, they're the first four out. It's been that way since the beginning of this whole thing started. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:48] Speaker B: And that's where, like, back. That's just what I love about the top ten, man. I just. The top ten. You show up to the racetrack to run top ten or better, and you should be rewarded to be in the championship because those are the ten best drivers of the year. That's just. I thought that was. I love the chase back in the day when it was ten guys, ten races, and just all out, it was. It was just awesome. But I don't know, maybe that's just the old man and me, but I just gonna. Is gonna be. He's. He's just gonna. He just has nothing going right now, so he's gonna be. He's just no threat. [00:31:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:27] Speaker B: And same is the 99, dude, the one car outruns the 99 car by 20 spots every week. [00:31:33] Speaker A: And the two car, he's every week, and we're already talking about his teammate that outruns him every week, how he doesn't even have a chance in the playoffs. So how do you expect the two car? How does anyone expect the two car? [00:31:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. [00:31:47] Speaker A: I did hear one of the funniest things, though, I think I've ever heard that. Somebody called in to door bumper clear on their reaction theater. Somebody called Joey Logano the double douchebag instead of the double deuce, and I cracked up. That was top tier comedy. [00:32:03] Speaker B: I was drinking a drink, going on the road when the lady called in and said that TJ majors look so hot in his cool suit and she want to give him the hawk tower. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Please. Next caller, please. [00:32:17] Speaker B: Next caller, please. I almost pissed my pants. That was so funny. Then we need to set up a phone, too. [00:32:26] Speaker A: We need to set up a fake phone number, and alice can just call in and give us some kind of crap every single week. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. That was. That was so funny. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. I was cracking up. But, man, I. Back to what we were talking about, man. I completely agree with you. There's some playoff drivers in here that I think deserve absolutely no accolades so far. They may have the race win, but you're talking. The only one that I think genuinely earned their race win that I don't think makes it out of the first round is Austin. Austin Cendrick. He absolutely deserved to win that race. I mean, he still was the third best car, but at the end of the day, stuff happens to the leaders all the time. You can't really. [00:33:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Running top five stuff, but he was running tops out. Yeah, exactly. [00:33:13] Speaker A: Three in, which is running top three all day. But there was not a single time where Joey Logano was running well in that race until the very end, even to the point where if that race had just finished as it normally should have, he would have finished in 15. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:28] Speaker A: And Daniel Suarez gets a fluke win and a three wide finish at Atlanta and then hasn't done anything else since then. I just don't see how you can make the argument that they've really done anything to prove that they are playoff worthy. [00:33:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:42] Speaker A: In terms of what a playoff should mean in any other sport, that's means nothing to them. [00:33:49] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. It's just. It should mean you are one of the best. [00:33:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:57] Speaker B: And, and I'm not saying that we've talked about on this podcast, I've always said Joe Logano could go down as one having the most race wins ever. Not ever. But in cup could go down. He could be a few time champion and have 70 plus wins in the series. I mean, I think very. I'm not a Joey Logano fan by any means, but I think highly of Joey Logano's talent this season. Joey Logano is not one of the best. It's just. [00:34:24] Speaker A: He's not even one of the ten best. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That. Yeah, he. That's exactly what I'm saying. He's just not. That top ten was like, man, when those guys went in there, it was like. And Jimmy Johnson dominated that, so it is what it is. But you went into that like, damn, any of these. These are the ten best guys that year. Like, these are. These ten guys have a chance. They run top ten, top five every single week. It just kind of, you know, maybe I can even be halfway cool with twelve. Cause that's like your ten best and like a couple extra winners or something. And then the two best say you do get more than ten winners and the two best guys had the best seasons of your 12th. I don't know, but it's just the ten was so perfect to me. And now 16, I mean, there's only, what, 36 cars in the field? 16 is almost half the field. Almost. [00:35:19] Speaker A: Exactly. And that's the hard part, is I feel like the. The route, the ten play, the ten driver playoff series got a bad rap because of Jimmy Johnson. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:29] Speaker A: But it was just bad timing for a new format like that to come out because you had such a generational talent and a generationally talented crew chief paired up together. [00:35:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:41] Speaker A: And you just put those two guys together, and I'm telling you, it wouldn't have mattered what format we were using. The only reason I think they would have had a harder time in this current format was because wins count for so much. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:53] Speaker A: That they'd go out there and be in the top five every single week, regardless of track. And that's just not as rewarded these days. But that was what made them so good at the ten race playoffs. Exactly like you're saying. It was just. It was against ten of the best other guys. So the problem is they were so good, they were head and shoulders above anyone else. And I feel like that's the only reason we don't still have the top ten playoff chase like we used to. That and the fact that it could still end a season a little early if they mathematically pointed their way to. [00:36:24] Speaker B: A victory before the last still never happened. Did it not actually never happen in those years they did that ever. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:31] Speaker B: Never once was like, Jimmy Johnson locked this up with two races to go. Now, Grant, that happened in the 36 race season, not in ten, because it reset. And in ten races, you're just. Something's going to happen in ten races, you're just not going to raise much of a point lead. You can have a points lead. And yes, Jimmy Johnson would go to the last race and he just had to finish. As long as he finished, say, 15th or better, he locked it up. I'm not saying that didn't happen. I'm saying it never once happened to where he could have just not even shown up the last two weeks and they would have won that. Never. [00:37:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And that ten race, ten race playoff distance is, like, perfect. Amazing. It's amazing. It's just a big enough sample size to where, you know, you had to run consistently. And it's about more than just the wins, but it's also about the losses. You take in the middle there, but it's not big enough to where it just drags on. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:37:26] Speaker A: And allows people to just go on and just average their way to a championship. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Ten is so perfect. And give me the percentage of the tracks that happen in the regular season. Give me. So it'd be majority. Back in the day, it was probably six mile and a halfs, you know, 1 mile track, two short tracks in a road course. You know what I mean? Like some kind of. Something like that in which back in those days, there was no road course in there because there's only two road courses in the whole entire thing. But nowadays there would be a road course in there, which there is with the Roval, and this year there's the Roval and Walkins Glen. But apparently walking's glen is not gonna be in there after this. [00:38:08] Speaker A: But, yeah, so much changes next year. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Um. I don't know, man. I just even. I know every. All the. All the people that we listen to, their podcast, they all preach because they all know it's not going back to ten, but they all preached it. Like, just give us three. Yeah, you know, three races. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Like, oh, I'm in so much agreement on that. [00:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. It's just something like, it's just the one race thing. When you force a game seven, it doesn't make game seven awesome. [00:38:37] Speaker A: Yeah. If the only way it's going to be awesome is if you get all four, or at least two of those guys door slamming for the win at the very end. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, it was awesome. You know what was awesome? When Tony Stewart snuck his way in to being 10th in the points. Carl Edwards has an incredible year. In the last ten races, Tony Stewart wins five of them. They go across the line, they tie for points. But because the 14 car had more champ, more wins, he won the title. Yeah, that's as natural as it could ever happen in the like. And there was times where every year they would go in, there was multiple guys that had a chance. All it took. All it took on some of those times where Jimmy Johnson was going, there have a brake failure at Homestead, just like our steering failure. Whatever that Denny had at Homestead, stuff happens. Let it happen naturally like that and don't force us into this one thing. Like, even if you. They naturally had multiple guys, it might not have been four, it might only been two, but still, like, they still had to race and go out. I don't know. They stuff the race. [00:39:48] Speaker A: No, I agree. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Saying it's just. [00:39:50] Speaker A: I don't know, takes away. It takes away from the ability for a natural storyline to develop across the entirety of the season. Because you put these people that have no business being in the playoffs. So you've got to talk about them. But we all know they don't have a chance. Yeah, but the problem is, I don't think anybody would have picked Blaney last year for the championship. I don't think anybody would have picked Joey Logano the year before. No chance for his championship. Allow the championship winner to develop a storyline through the entire season, because their storyline the entire season was we kind of suck, and then all of a sudden, they're the champions, and it's like, well, where did kind of suck turn into a championship? It was just, honestly, just good timing and a great opportunity, and they just managed to seize it, which, in and of itself, is a good storyline, but I prefer that storyline in my race, and I prefer a long form championship story of how someone ended up gaining the crown at the end. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:53] Speaker A: Because of everything they did from race one till race 32. [00:40:56] Speaker B: I'm not even saying race one to race 32. I'm saying the ten race thing. I'm down with. [00:41:02] Speaker A: That works, too. That's. That's. That works, too. I just hate it whenever somebody that has no business being a champion ends up in that final four and then wins the championship. I mean, the. The best example of how bad that situation is for the reason. What we're talking about and why we should go back to kind of an idea that you're having right now of going through the ten race period is watching the Netflix special and how nobody at all thought Blaney was going to win it. They barely even had him in the series and had to throw him in their last second and get all of his info read off just so that way they could show him as the champion by the end of it. But the first two episodes of five, he was basically non existent in there. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Just like that. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Just tells you the year. [00:41:47] Speaker B: It was 2020 when. When Kevin Harvick and Denny Hamlin won nine and ten races in the freaking season. And I don't think either one of them made the final four. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Nope. [00:42:00] Speaker B: That's just. That's why Danny Hamlin says. That is why he says he's not being in. Listen, I'm on the fuck Denny Hamlin train just because. But that's why Denny Hamlin said, I agree with everything he does off the racetrack. Not on the racetrack. That's why he tells you nowadays why wins mean so much in a championship. The championships, one race, it's a win. It's not even celebrated the same, in a way as it was when you had this whole piece of art to hand you this whole puzzle that I built this whole year, I'm gonna hand it to you. Yeah, that's. That's a big accomplishment. Every single one of those races was a piece of that puzzle. Okay. Now, the championships. Just a piece of the puzzle. One piece. So it's like, this big. And that's how I look at it in my mind, but, like, it's, like, this big. Now, when used to. Used to be that whole 36 piece puzzle, the guy. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah, the worst thing is, is someone could go out, win the. Either win the very first race of the year or just know for a fact. I mean, this is an outlier, but know for a fact that we can win this race if we just put it together. Well, start and park every single race that entire year, claim some random mechanical issue that knocked him out of the race, walk into the playoffs with five playoff points just from getting that one win. Don't even count the stages. And that person, who barely even had a presence in the sport throughout the entirety of the regular season, could show up to the playoffs to make a run all the way and end it. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:39] Speaker A: You just go out there and not give a damn if the. I don't know how long the regular season is off the top of my head. 26 races. 26 races. You can go out there and have one good winning race, and 25, you barely even do a lap, and you could still technically win the championship. That. That right there tells you everything you need to know about how messed up our championship is. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And I don't really know how we got on this topic, to be honest with you, but. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah, because Joey Logano sucks, but he's in the playoffs now. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And Suarez, too. [00:44:13] Speaker A: And Suarez. [00:44:14] Speaker B: It's just so funny to me. It's so funny to hear these guys, like, Freddy Kraft right now on DBC. I'm fighting for 16th. You know? I'm fighting for 16th. 16th. Like, get. Like, get out of here, dude. If it was the top ten, I'm just being honest. Bubba Wallace wouldn't have a shot ever. [00:44:33] Speaker A: No, he wouldn't. And fighting for 16th is all cool and, well, when your car should be finished in 25th, but when your car should be finishing up front and your teammate literally was up in the top three all day. [00:44:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Fighting for 16th ain't really looking all that good, but it still earns him a way into the playoffs. [00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's like. It's like mediocre can get you to playoffs, and that is not how. That's not how it is in any other sport. [00:44:58] Speaker A: No, not at all. [00:45:01] Speaker B: So. But anyways, that's what. [00:45:03] Speaker A: That's the situation we're in. And Joey is in the playoffs now, for better or for worse, and we just kind of deal with that. [00:45:11] Speaker B: And I do think he'll be the first round out. [00:45:15] Speaker A: I could definitely. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Nothing changes. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Without a doubt. Because even the people that are pointed lower than him right now have been outrunning him all year. Yeah. Ty Gibbs been running pretty decent. [00:45:27] Speaker B: Chris Bush is the one that blows me away the most. Chris Bush is freaking. He's had some bad luck. Chris Bush has a fast race car, and Chris Buscher is not. Whatever. He's like, what, 1514. Whatever. He's one that's like, Chris Bush could have three wins right now in this season and be sitting there with 20 something playoff points if a couple things would have went the right way. Chris Buscher, to me, out of that group of guys there at the end between, like, Bubba Logano, Busher, Bush, Tiger, and Ty gives is run good, too. But Ty Gibbs is still as good. He's not been as good. He's still having a problem putting whole races together. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Which that is just a byproduct to youth. [00:46:14] Speaker B: Yes. And just like everyone says, it takes three years in NASCAR Cup Series racing to be able to figure that out and hone that in, and that's just fine. I'm not hating on that at all. But Chris Buscher is by far the best running car, in my opinion, of that group of guys that's in that, what, like 11th or 12th to like, what, 16th, 17th place? [00:46:37] Speaker A: Yes. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Because you got guys now freaking. Kyle Busch is over 100 points out. He's got a win. Freaking. Now that Joe Logano has won, I think Bubba's like 51 out. That's pretty close to winning when you only got seven races left. Yeah. I mean. [00:46:52] Speaker A: I mean, it's. It's crunch time now. [00:46:54] Speaker B: It's crunch time. [00:46:55] Speaker A: And you don't know who I see dropping out. [00:46:57] Speaker B: You got some crazy stuff coming. You got the Chicago Pocono, Michigan, Michigan, Indianapolis, Indianapolis. I wasn't shooting you a bird that I was just in the finger. I was using a point with Bush or won Michigan last year. You know, I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, these guys like Bush are. Buscher's gonna win a race. I would almost bet if I could make a bet that bush or gets a win before the end of these next seven races. I'm taking that bet. [00:47:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I completely agree. Every single one of those drivers that's listed in 13th through 16th, Bowman on up, has the opportunity to win a race. [00:47:30] Speaker B: And Chris Buscher, Bowman's the most consistent driver in NASCAR for a finish. He just runs. [00:47:36] Speaker A: He, he just started rough this year. [00:47:38] Speaker B: Yeah, he's, he's. He's not going to go out and just dominate and win every damn race, but he runs top ten like every single week. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Yeah, without a doubt. [00:47:46] Speaker B: My favorite quote, TJ major says, what are you going to do, kick the guy out that runs top ten every week? I mean, come on. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:52] Speaker B: We're to the point now where people don't even think top tens are worth the shit. Like, you got to be an idiot if you're not, if you think Alex Bowman is on the hot seat or something, you just got to be an idiot. You got to know, not know what you're talking about if you don't think Alex Bowman, I take a season running top ten every single week. He has the most top tens of anyone in the field. So, like, what is that? What's wrong with that? Yeah, just like you're saying. Well, it goes because wins. I get the wins, wins, wins. But consistently, he does not have all this up and down that a Kyle Busch and Bubba and Logano and all these guys are having. He's running right there. The only reason he's not hiring the playoff points is because he's got guys in front of him that have wins. That's the only reason. [00:48:35] Speaker A: Without a doubt. But I'm with you. I think Chris Buscher is easily one of my locks to make it to the final 8th just because he will run consistently enough and you will get those wins that he needs at some point to put his place in there and semen, he just performs really well under pressure. He doesn't, he doesn't overdrive his arm getting there. [00:48:55] Speaker B: He's a level headed guy. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:57] Speaker B: And can keep cool and calm in that high pressure craziness, without a doubt. And. Which is because I can't, because I'm crazy. [00:49:05] Speaker A: It is what it is, man. We'll get you figured out. Just stay away from the merch stand at the end of the night. It's a lot of drunk people over there. The only person I'm really worried about a little bit is, honestly, I'd have to say it, Ross Chastain. I mean, I just have not seen the Ross be a, the Ross thing. Like his. His ability to go up there and make a name for himself, his ability to do anything. He is, out of all the guys that are running back there in the back end of those playoffs, I think he is my pick for the other guy that Cedric Logano, Suarez, and chastain. And I was putting chastain close to my final four at the beginning of the year, and I'm starting to get worried about that guy because he may have had a good run at Nashville, but last time this year, Nashville was the last race he ran really good at. And then everything fell apart after that. And I don't. I just haven't seen him running consistently enough in the top five. He may be running in the top ten at times, but I have not seen his name popping up near enough for me to have the confidence in him like I used to. So he's another one that I'm. I'm picking to be a first round out if he makes it to the playoffs, which at 66 above a bad race, puts him right into that hunt for the bubble, which, granted, all. It's the same for all those guys down there, but I think he's the one I feel like I'm worried about the most. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Yeah, um, my. I don't know. The. The only thing about chastain is he outruns the 99 by 20 spots every week. So is. Is track house not as dominant as they were a year or two ago? I don't know. But Chastain has not been the same since he got his. His pp slapped. Yeah, he's not been the same. Ripley, but he's not been the same. That's a Scott Minkley close. He's not been the same since that day. He's not been the same. Yeah, only the only day I saw him be old Ross was at Phoenix when he out of Blaney. [00:51:16] Speaker A: It's true. [00:51:17] Speaker B: That was old Ross. And he went. Raised Ross. Yeah. [00:51:21] Speaker A: And yesterday when he was blocking the shit out of Hamlin, I was having so much fun watching that. [00:51:25] Speaker B: But it's like for Ross to be that dominant Ross Chastain, he's got to be an aggressive on the edge. And that's in that and being aggressive and on the edge is going to piss people off. Ross has to be. Ross has to pick a side of the fence. He can't be Mister nice guy or in Mister aggressive. Well, it can't be both. He runs better and he's mister aggressive, and everyone's pissed off at him. [00:51:49] Speaker A: And drivers could be that way. [00:51:51] Speaker B: I would just lean into that, and that's where I'm performing my best. That's just what it's just. That's just what it's got to be. I'm sorry. [00:51:57] Speaker A: If you don't like it, outrun me. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Get out of my way. [00:52:02] Speaker A: Either drive too far ahead of me where I can't ever reach you, or stop complaining. [00:52:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's. That's great stuff. Golly. I'm trying to think of what all even happened in the middle of this race. Now we've gone on such a tangent, and I loved every single second of it. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Me, too. [00:52:19] Speaker A: Coming around to the end, we had all these damn restarts and everything. Got people running out of gas. You got Kyle Busch getting wrecked out of the race. By your. By your boy over there. [00:52:29] Speaker B: One of the most awesomest things ever was Kyle Busch doing a burnout on the start finish line, getting out and doing a bow. [00:52:34] Speaker A: I mean, that's amazing. I didn't even know he did the bow. [00:52:37] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, there's fan videos and everything of him doing the bow right there. I mean, it was just top tier. [00:52:43] Speaker A: I love it. That's so. That's such a Kyle. That's such a Kyle Busch move. [00:52:47] Speaker B: I loved it. [00:52:48] Speaker A: That's a Kyle Busch I miss. I feel, like, angry. Kyle Busch is coming back because he is finishing so crap right now, dude. [00:52:56] Speaker B: Kyle Busch, let me hit you with this stat right here that I saw yesterday in the last. Now, as of yesterday, four races, you know, the three bottom points performing cars in the series. I mean, dead last. [00:53:10] Speaker A: Like, out of the last four races. [00:53:11] Speaker B: The last four races, dead last bottle. [00:53:14] Speaker A: This has got to be dead last. [00:53:15] Speaker B: Kyle Busch, Austin Dillon, and Harrison Burton. [00:53:19] Speaker A: I mean, that makes total sense. [00:53:21] Speaker B: Dead fucking last on the list of points earned in the last four races. [00:53:26] Speaker A: I feel bad for Kyle because I. I heard a stat that I thought was phenomenal, and it actually came true. Steve Latard on dirty Modeau said, kyle Busch, anytime he's had a statistic. Six race streak that were his worst races in his career, he's done it twice before. The 7th race was a complete turnaround of everything that the other six races weren't. And up until Kyle Larson runs out of gas, that absolutely came true yesterday. [00:53:54] Speaker B: I don't. I don't think so. I don't think so. He was awful yesterday until that strategy that got him into the top five, and he just stayed there. He was. He was getting ready to finish six. [00:54:05] Speaker A: He was getting ready to finish the top five. [00:54:07] Speaker B: He was motherfucking everybody on the radio in that race car the whole entire race till the end. [00:54:14] Speaker A: That may be true, but he was about to finish in time for Lars. [00:54:18] Speaker B: He was getting ready to finish there, but it's kind of goes back to the Joey Logano season we're talking about. Like, that was his race. Absolutely horrible. [00:54:26] Speaker A: And I think that's what that stuff was based off of was finishing position. So at the end of the day, it would have been a complete turnaround if it wasn't for Kyle Larson running out of gas. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Finish line. [00:54:37] Speaker A: Less of a, like, congratulations on his ability and what he did and more just so wild that that stat almost came true again, and it didn't, it did break the streak. He did finish crap because he gets wrecked out, but still. Wild that that even was possible. [00:54:54] Speaker B: Wild that Kyle Busch is over 100 points out of the playoffs. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Wild that Kyle Busch hasn't announced that he's definitely coming back next year. I know he's got a contract called, no, he's got a contract. But I guarantee you he would do anything in his power to get out of it right now. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Like I told you, like, we, we had the debate on here. He's going to retire. Go somewhere else. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Dude. [00:55:16] Speaker B: I can see cow Bush taking a year off and going to race. Bush cars are going to race trucks for a season to get out. [00:55:22] Speaker A: I just don't see that. I think he's in too much of his prime. [00:55:24] Speaker B: That he wants to be the first driver ever to win three championships is the only reason I say that. [00:55:30] Speaker A: That may be true, but there's so many open seats in NASCAR right now. He's got a million different places he could go, and he's got his pick of the litter. He's still Kyle Busche, but he's under. [00:55:40] Speaker B: Contract, though, so he doesn't have his pick of the litter. Is the. [00:55:43] Speaker A: Yeah, those contracts are made to be broken. Ask Tyler Reddick about that. [00:55:48] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't. I just don't. I just, he's just, I just don't know if I see him being at RCR, though. [00:55:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I completely agree. And I think it's going to be an exact same eight car leaving it in a year early situation. And I think Richard Childress is just enough of a guy that would get mad enough about that to say, screw you anyway. Make me. Make him pay out his contract, but end up at another race team. You know who's got a lot of money? Inspire motorsports. You know who's also going to have a lot of money after their merger and everything goes down next year? Front row motorsports. I think he's got so many different options and places that he could go. [00:56:23] Speaker B: I'd shit in my pants if that happened, and I'd be pumped to see it go down. [00:56:27] Speaker A: I sincerely hope it does. [00:56:29] Speaker B: I wish he'd go race for Denny in the third charterhouse. [00:56:33] Speaker A: I think that is another great possibility. [00:56:36] Speaker B: That would be my top tier pick to happen would be that I think. [00:56:40] Speaker A: He would do it too. I think he has enough respect for. [00:56:42] Speaker B: Him when he would go and so fast, he would have smoke. You wouldn't see nothing but smoke and dust. [00:56:47] Speaker A: He'd leave out right back to Toyota and say, boys, I'm home. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I think something like that is definitely bound to happen, and I'm so excited to see what happens actually ends up happening. [00:57:02] Speaker B: Shout out Corey Haim for running, finishing 11th in his first ever cup race and running in the 11th to top. 11th to like 10th to 13th all day. I was thrilled about that for him. [00:57:16] Speaker A: Absolutely, man. He was impressive all day. Even after getting spun out, he managed to finish that good. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. [00:57:22] Speaker A: Impressed. I think Corey, him is definitely a major contender for a cup series ride next year. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Probably the one he was in yesterday. [00:57:30] Speaker A: Probably. Yeah. That's the one team was he running for? I cannot remember. I know it was the 50 car, but I can't remember what the team was. Denny, was that a third car for Denny? [00:57:41] Speaker B: It sure was. Who he outrun the whole day? [00:57:46] Speaker A: Mister. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Mister. [00:57:48] Speaker A: I couldn't see him, man. [00:57:49] Speaker B: Or mister Luke Holmes. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I couldn't see him. He was too. He was too. He blended in too much, you know? [00:57:55] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I just. I don't know. [00:58:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know is a good word for it. [00:58:03] Speaker B: Yeah, there's just, there's personality conflicts in that. In that situation. [00:58:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Ask Eric amarola about that. [00:58:13] Speaker B: Yes. Not even. That wasn't what I was talking about, though. It's just Denny Hamlin and he has expressed this talking about Bubba on his podcast. He is not an excuse guy. Yes, he is. I love that excuse. Non bullshit, dude. When it comes to those race cars and how those cars are built and he knows how much money and time is spent in those race cars and I don't know, man. I've just, I've just heard some things that make me. That it make me, my ears perk up a little bit about that whole situation because Bubba's in a contract year and they ain't been no talks about no renewing it. [00:58:53] Speaker A: I don't think they should. And you know what we were just talking about? There's Corey Haim on the market. There is Kyle Busch on. Potentially on the market. I know it's not technical, but potentially on that market, you know, he's listening if someone calls. [00:59:07] Speaker B: Yeah, there's just. There's just some things like. Like personality wise between those two guys that I'm just. That I wonder about. And from what I even leaving all. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Of that off the table, just sincere performance. He is underperformed in that race car and every other race car he's ever been in. Yes, he has underperformed in it, and he has used the excuse of it was petty motorsports equipment. It wasn't that great. We're trying to build this team over 20 311. [00:59:40] Speaker B: That's the new. [00:59:40] Speaker A: It's. We're trying to get there. [00:59:41] Speaker B: We're trying to do some point. [00:59:44] Speaker A: Well, dude, I hate to tell you, man, but your teammate sitting almost in the top five, and he's the fourth best driver in terms of points right now in the playoffs and the regular season point standings. [00:59:54] Speaker B: Yep. [00:59:54] Speaker A: You're going to tell me that you're still building something over there. Dude, you should be running in the top five every single week. The only reason that you are not running in the top five every single week is at one point, a lack of confidence, and another point just a genuine, honest. And not. You don't. You're not capable of doing it. And you've had enough years in the Cup Series where you're. You're running out of reasons why not. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that my. This isn't a quote I've heard, but this is my quote to it talking about, we're building this up at 20 311. It's built. That shop is built. And it costs a whole hell of a lot of money. That organization is built. And I know I'm being funny about literally built. I know I am. But there's no more building up. Denny Hamlin has got that team into a top tier team. [01:00:44] Speaker A: Yeah. They're expecting a champion this year or next year. [01:00:48] Speaker B: Yeah. He expects those cars to be top ten cars every week, not top six. Not struggling to get 16th in points. [01:00:57] Speaker A: I'm going to tell here. You want to know something that is really similar about Bubba Wallace and Corey Lajoy? [01:01:06] Speaker B: They have a lot of. [01:01:07] Speaker A: And BJ McLeod and Cody wear and name any other back marker driver that's ever raced in the NASCAR Cup Series. You know what they all have in common with Bubba Wallace? 90% of their success at a racetrack came at Daytona. And you know why? Because it's the one racetrack where it's the least amount based off of skill, and it's the most amount based off of luck and ability to move your way through the draft. And you're telling me that the same set of people that look at that as an opportunity race, because they have no ability to have opportunity, are going out there and having their best results on these plate tracks, and you've got a guy who's driving one of the best pieces of race equipment on the track who is saying the same thing. If that doesn't tell you something, I don't know what else to tell you about what Bubble Wallace is doing for 20. 311. Bubble Wallace is doing the same thing that any other back marker driver in the entire series could do by going to Daytona, performing extremely well, and then leaving that racetrack and being non existent until it pops back up later in the year. [01:02:16] Speaker B: That's a good point. That's a good point. And you don't want to be. You don't want to be a driver on a top tier team and think your only chance of getting a good finish is the six, six plate races throughout the year. [01:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:28] Speaker B: You don't really. [01:02:28] Speaker A: Only one of them because he really doesn't perform phenomenally at Talladega. It's really just Daytona. [01:02:34] Speaker B: Yeah. You don't want to. You don't want to be in that. You don't want to be that guy. Like those. Yeah, that makes. I mean. Yeah, that was a great analogy. I mean, those guys, you look at those places for the back market guys where they can hang out and as the birds fall out of the tree, they can make their way up to the nest kind of thing. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. They're going out there hoping to save their season. And Bubble Wallace goes over there knowing that it's his ability to save his job. [01:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know, man. It's just something. It's just something to think about. It's just from. Just from the thing. And I'm. I am totally only basing this off of things that Denny Hamlin says on his podcast about those race cars and some of the things that Bubba said and knowing that he's in a contract year and not a single word has been said about it. [01:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I think everybody's keeping real quiet over there for a lot of reasons. [01:03:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I just talk about some crazy stuff on door, bumper clear going on. And then Freddie, and then Brett's like, Freddie knows what's going on over there. And he's like, I ain't saying nothing. So I don't know if your spotters. What about this, though? What about this, though? This was weird. To me, too, about the 20 311 thing. And I don't know if it's talking about being in a contract year. What Freddie asked for more money, whatever. But Freddie, last week on the podcast, are talking about going to the Cubs game. Apparently, last year they had, like, a 20 311 day at the Cubs game. And, like, Kurt Bush and Bubba and Reddick are out there, like, throwing the first pitches and, you know, stuff like that. Someone brings it up on the podcast, and Freddy's almost exact quote was, I don't know. They don't tell me anything. They don't like me over there right now. So what does that mean? [01:04:19] Speaker A: Maybe he took Eric Amarillo's side. [01:04:22] Speaker B: That's another thing that we talked about. That was also true that I never in a million years even I said it on here. I don't believe that. I think this is the biggest water horseshit I've ever heard. And then it comes out being true, and I'm like, wow, some Twitter account that, like, I only saw that posted one time and it was true. That blew me away. That blew me away. [01:04:45] Speaker A: I just don't even know what to think about any of that. I really don't. They didn't give any kind of details. They didn't say anything. All we know is that they claimed that Eric was the aggressor and they're. [01:04:58] Speaker B: In the competition meeting. [01:05:00] Speaker A: I don't get what the. What could possibly happen at a Toyota, not even a JGR, but a Toyota competition meeting. [01:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:09] Speaker A: What could happen that would cause Eric to be such. To come out and try to fight one of the main drivers for that, for that racing organization? I just don't understand. [01:05:22] Speaker B: I don't know either. I was. [01:05:24] Speaker A: The only thing I can think is that Bubba said something off the damn cuff, because you know how Bubba can be. I don't. I'm. This is all conjecture. I'm not saying that he did anything. It could have been that Eric just came in there with a full head of steam and just punched the crap out of him. I don't know. [01:05:36] Speaker B: I don't know. I. I don't even have. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Just looking from the outside, I probably shouldn't make any prediction, but it's just I could see a lot of different scenarios playing out there, and I just don't. I don't really get that. [01:05:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:48] Speaker A: And at the end of the day, why is Bubba involved in a fight? I mean, bubba. The only thing he needs to be fighting for right now is his job. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know either. I just. I was so mind blown that it was true. That it. I was just mind blown about that. Honestly, I could not believe that it was a true statement. [01:06:05] Speaker A: You know, the only person I haven't heard from yet is Eriche. [01:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And I heard he's coming back. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Charlotte maybe, or Indie. [01:06:16] Speaker A: His right at Charlotte was taken away from it. [01:06:19] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. That's. [01:06:19] Speaker A: That was why Charlotte was in the conversation. But I don't know where his next race is. I hope he does well. I. Dawson absolutely hates your gut, dude. [01:06:27] Speaker B: He's already won in that car this year. He won it. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Martin. Dude, shout out to the crew chief of that 20 car. That dude can crew chief a damn race because he's won with four different drivers and twice with the same one. So he's already run five times this year for a car that is only going for owners championship points. And if he ain't in the lead, I don't know who could possibly be because he's got five wins with four drivers in that car. That is unbelievable to me. [01:06:51] Speaker B: They run that car every week. Right. [01:06:53] Speaker A: They do it in third. And the owners championship right now with Dr. [01:06:58] Speaker B: It's like the all star. Not. Not. You know what I mean? It's like. [01:07:01] Speaker A: It's had John Hunter, Nimichek. It's had Eric Amarola. And there's people go in there and win. There you go. That have gone down there and won in that race car. That dude is setting up a damn race car. If he doesn't have a NASCAR Cup Series career next year, I'd be very surprised. [01:07:19] Speaker B: Do you know who the crew chief is? [01:07:22] Speaker A: I cannot remember his name off the top of my head, but I bet you I can find it out pretty quick. [01:07:25] Speaker B: We can give him a shout out on our podcast. [01:07:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, he will. No doubt about it. [01:07:34] Speaker B: Oh, but anyway, Chicago, that's enough about all the other things. Chicago, coming up this week, does SVG no. Repeat? [01:07:44] Speaker A: No, he doesn't know. I don't think he repeats. [01:07:48] Speaker B: You know, I don't think he repeats. [01:07:51] Speaker A: Why is that? [01:07:52] Speaker B: I think everybody bullies him on the race. I think everybody's car in front of SVG just for the principle of the situation last year and everybody having an ego and a pride thing, everybody's bumper is going to be double the size that it normally is. [01:08:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I think the only advantage that he had going into last year being a brand new driver was that he was a brand new driver. No one expected that. And when he went out there and was running up front, it was racing in the rain. Something he's very familiar with that. Nobody in the Cup Series really is. And he was able to go out there and set down lap times that no one could compete with. Put him on that same rest racetrack if it's dry. And given a year of experience in NASCAR, making friends, making enemies, doing all the things that you do in an, as a NASCAR driver, learning new habits, learning bad habits, learning good habits, I think it equalizes them out a little bit. [01:08:46] Speaker B: You know what? [01:08:46] Speaker A: Ice dry. I think he finishes in the top ten, but I don't think he finishes any higher than that. [01:08:52] Speaker B: You know what I do think happens, though? I think he wins the Bush xfinity race. [01:08:57] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been phenomenal in the xfinity. [01:08:59] Speaker B: If he can go out there at Chicago and do that in the cup car, I think he has Chicago xfinity race in the bag. I think the cup guys are just going to bully him a little bit in the Cup Series at this track specifically. Not that they don't bully him anywhere else. And I'm just saying bully is a term of just like, you know, roughing him up a little bit. [01:09:24] Speaker A: You know, they're gonna race hard as hell because they know that he's the one person they have to worry about right now. [01:09:29] Speaker B: Exactly. Hear me out here, though. Last year, you know who finished second in Chicago? I. [01:09:37] Speaker A: There was Tyler Reddick, wasn't it? [01:09:39] Speaker B: Justin Haley. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Justin Haley. Damn. How about, wow, I can't remember. [01:09:44] Speaker B: What about Justin Haley this year? And as good as this car is running. [01:09:50] Speaker A: That's so tough, man. [01:09:52] Speaker B: That's tough. But, I mean, is he a top ten lock? [01:09:56] Speaker A: Hmm? [01:09:57] Speaker B: Is he a top ten lock? Everybody talks about how good of a road courser he is and how good that car is running and everything. I'm just. [01:10:05] Speaker A: I would bet him for a top ten. I would 100% bet him for odds. [01:10:10] Speaker B: But I feel like that'd be your best money chance right there. [01:10:13] Speaker A: Looked up odds before we started as we started this podcast. And I'll say this one thing, ain't no bet of mine going on. Shane van Gisbergen this week because he is sitting at plus 550 with Christopher Bell and Kyle Larson. Plus 550 for a guy that's seen the cup series field, what, eight times in his career? If that. [01:10:33] Speaker B: How many times? [01:10:33] Speaker A: Maybe five. No way I'm betting somebody. Plus 550. I don't care how good he was. There was there last year. Too much time has passed. Too many things have been learned and unlearned. [01:10:46] Speaker B: What's Justin Haley for a top ten? [01:10:48] Speaker A: Top ten lines have not been released. Tell me what he is right now for a top five is sitting at plus 1200. So you just got to imagine that's got to at least be plus 1500. I'd probably say it's going to be between 15. [01:11:04] Speaker B: It would go down. [01:11:05] Speaker A: Oh, you're right. [01:11:05] Speaker B: You're going to go down. I honestly thought it'd be way 1200. Yeah, it's going to. Yeah. If he's 1200 for a top five, he's going to be 800 ish. [01:11:15] Speaker A: For a top dude, anything 300 and over, I'll bet him on a top ten. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Same. [01:11:20] Speaker A: Anything lower than that, I think it's worth it. [01:11:22] Speaker B: I bet Justin Haley for a top five right now at 1200. I'm just saying, I just something, something about it, man. He's going to do good. He is. I. Justin, I'm not saying he's going to go win, I'm just saying Justin Haley, unless obviously a wreck happens, he gets caught in some B's and the whole tracks busted and all that like it was last year at some point. I just think he's going to do just, just fine. Just dandy in Chicago. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:51] Speaker B: In this. [01:11:51] Speaker A: Rick, where do you think that Christopher Bell and Kyle Larson being at plus 550 is triple favorites with Shane makes any sense to you? Because I don't know that. It makes a lot of sense to me. [01:12:01] Speaker B: It doesn't make any sense to me. Bell ran great at Chicago last year until he knows it into the wall. I think he was leading when he knows it into the wall. Overcooked the corner. Reddick did great last year and I don't remember Kyle Larson even being in the mix at all. So. [01:12:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:21] Speaker B: That goes back to what you always tell me about these guys that are favorites, though. Those guys are getting all the bet. Kyle Larson's getting all the bets. SPG is getting all the bets this week. So that's driving their stuff down. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Yes. But if you were smart and not going to get pot caught with her pants down, having Shane van Gisberg and Downdez in the mix when he comes out there and gets a surprise win. So they're going to automatically put him way up there. [01:12:43] Speaker B: Yeah. And you're not. If you were smart, though. And you. Kyle Larson at a road course. Yes. Kyle Larson runs great at road courses. Kyle Larson at a street course. If we only have one year, one race worth of notes about this, but five fifties. What? Kyle Larson is to win Frickinville. That's stupid. I don't know. [01:13:06] Speaker A: It's way too low. Kyle Larson does great on road for one reason. One reason only. It's because he has the ability to take those corners as hard as he wants to. You take that away when you put him on a street course and there's no runoff room, and you're right up against the wall. I still think he's talented. He will finish well. I just don't see him being a winner there because I feel like it takes away his ability to overdrive the car to a good position. Because that's what Kyle Larson needs, is to overdrive his cardinal. [01:13:34] Speaker B: Yes. People want to bring that up this weekend about him making all these mistakes. It's because Kyle Larson probably drives harder than any other driver on the track. [01:13:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what makes him good. [01:13:45] Speaker B: Just exactly what I was just saying about Ross Chastain being aggressive and being that guy. Each driver has their own set of skills that make them be who they are. Kyle Larson is not that guy. Just like when he almost dumped it coming off the corner at Las Vegas last year, coming out of turn two and hit the wall head on it at Las Vegas. He's running the league like a three second lead. Kyle Larson ain't letting off, dude. [01:14:08] Speaker A: When he was trying to make up time going down to pit road right behind Blaney. I think Las Vegas to know that's. [01:14:14] Speaker B: At homestead, but, yeah, exactly. Thank you. He is not. There is no time off in that car where he's just going to log laps. And that's called. [01:14:23] Speaker A: That's why I think he's like, shit. [01:14:26] Speaker B: That just is what it is. [01:14:28] Speaker A: I really think that your best bet, and this is for anybody betting. Brandi, I'm sorry, I just don't really know what to tell you. [01:14:37] Speaker B: This is a tough one because the only gets five choices. So mom and Megan, they can go off sVg, bell, Reddit. [01:14:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:45] Speaker B: Haley and McDowell, maybe something like that. Like, yeah, that's five they haven't used and things like that they could go in with. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Without a doubt. And I just think if you're betting, this week is a day to bet your favorite I for something, but I wouldn't go for. I'm probably not going to bet any winners this week because the winner is going to be such a weird result. I'm. I'm basically looking at matchups, groups, and top tens this week because I feel like that's where your money is going to be. [01:15:19] Speaker B: That's my just. [01:15:20] Speaker A: Haley, top ten is a phenomenal pick. I bet Michael McDowell top pick. Top ten is going to be another one. Yeah, but I wouldn't be afraid to go down into the mix of a bunch of random drivers at the back end of the field who maybe have not even seen a top ten in weeks and betting them on a top ten or parlaying a top ten like I did last week. I bet one bet for $2 and $75 profit a drive in weeks. [01:15:50] Speaker B: He's like kid rock. He ain't seen the sunshine in three damn days. Cowboys ain't seen us, ain't seen the top ten in six, seven weeks, whatever he just says. [01:15:58] Speaker A: But that's pretty much what you have to do, is go in here not expecting to pick the winner, but expecting to be able to pick someone from the back end of the field to have a better day than usual, because this racetrack is going to chew people up and spit people out like it did last year, but it's going to be even wilder because it's going to be dry. So you're not going to have people taking it easy into corners, trying to gauge where their brake balance is and this and that. They're going to go in there with a lot more confidence of knowing how that race car drives at a road course. And you're going to have somebody wreck in front of the whole field and stack them up in a big wad of cars at the end of one of these turns. So that's what you got to watch out for, I think, is you're not going. You're just going to get lucky if you pick the winner, you're going to get also still going to get kind of lucky if you pick a top five. I think this is a great day to look at some of those wilder, odd top ten guys and maybe parlay in a few matchups. But really, I think this is a day where you make a few wild bets and hope to God they pay off and just have fun watching it. Because I don't think anybody that tells you that they know what's going to happen in this race cannot say that without their fingers crossed behind their back. [01:17:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I just looked at the weather. The weather's clear in 80 degrees, so I don't really think we got to worry about rain. [01:17:14] Speaker A: Well, there you go. I mean, I think this is going to be a year of a bunch of wild stuff and wrecks. So just keep it, just keep your tv on and hope for the best for whatever driver you pick to try to run up there to the front, because just like I did last week and just like you've done a few times, and then all we pick somebody that doesn't. That probably would have looked crazy when we picked it, but by the end of the race, it just so happens that they end up being there. So, yeah, I say just go into this one with more the idea of having fun than making money. [01:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm excited about it. I'm. My favorite things is the unknown, like always. So, yeah, that's where I'm at with it. I hope. I hope it stays dry. I want to see it race dry, not have record breaking floods and everything else and tires floating down pit road and all that like they had last year. So let's see it running the dry and see what happens. [01:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. That's just going to be a wild time, and I'm excited. I'm excited to see it. I know we complained a lot about it last year, and I think a lot of our points were still valid back then, but now that it's happened a year, one year, and it was a genuinely entertaining race with a wild. [01:18:32] Speaker B: Result, you better enjoy it. [01:18:34] Speaker A: Take. [01:18:35] Speaker B: Take it for what it's worth around long. [01:18:38] Speaker A: So you might as well, if this ain't the last year, it's definitely knocking on the door. [01:18:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:43] Speaker A: These. These inner city races are definitely not as popular as they used to be. [01:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Especially here. We just don't have the car culture enough to be able to support it. [01:18:52] Speaker B: Yeah, that's where. That's where I'm at with it. I mean, just enjoy it because it ain't gonna be around long. So, yeah, kick back, drink a beer, have a safe 4 July. Don't lose any fingers. Caleb's coming to town. Caleb and Allison bringing the camper. [01:19:10] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. First time pulling that sucker. Let's hope we don't die going down, mon eagle. [01:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I hope that doesn't happen. Definitely gonna be beers drink. Probably some hamburgers ate. [01:19:22] Speaker A: Probably don't bring the dog this time. [01:19:24] Speaker B: To hell. Yeah, Stella. [01:19:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Probably the same thing will happen on Sunday as well. Some hamburgers and a beer will be drink for. [01:19:33] Speaker A: There you go. [01:19:34] Speaker B: For the cup race. There it is. But, yeah, we're off. We've got a little time for the next two weeks. Yes. It's a nice little reboot. So. So I'm excited for it. I've enjoyed my couple days off so far. I've been working my ass off in the yard, fixing some stuff, so, heck, yeah. [01:19:54] Speaker A: I got a yard. [01:19:55] Speaker B: Moved around. [01:19:56] Speaker A: Whoo. I got a yard needs mowing so bad. It looks like those little crabs and that crab. Crabgrass and Jimmy Neutron back in the day, if you remember what I'm talking about. You're an og. But that's what my lawn looks like right now. [01:20:08] Speaker B: Caleb probably get 20 ticks on him trying to mow his grass. [01:20:12] Speaker A: No, we got a guy for that now. We're done with all that. That's over with. I haven't seen a tick on me in over a month. Fingers crossed. [01:20:20] Speaker B: That might change today in your long grass, though. [01:20:22] Speaker A: I will see. Heck, yeah. Well, y'all, thanks for listening to us jabber on. We had a hell of a time watching this one. Hope y'all did, too. You can find me online anywhere at Caleb Con. [01:20:34] Speaker B: Rowdy Dawson Edwards. Music for me. Raised Rowdy, Nikki T. Matt Burrell. Raised rowdye. Raise rowdy racing. [01:20:46] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. Fondness, go get you one of these. Fancy dancy. I know y'all can't see it, but Nikki T and Matt Burrell just put out a great new hat you didn't. [01:20:55] Speaker B: Show me even when you told me about it. I got suk. [01:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta go find you one of these. It is a ball cap. It's got the stripes on the bill, it's got the stars on the cap portion. It says freedom and freedom. And freedom and country music on the front. And it says raised rowdy across the back. So when I'm wearing this sucker backwards, I'm still advertising. [01:21:16] Speaker B: There we go. [01:21:17] Speaker A: This might be my new favorite hat for this weekend, so go get y'all one. It's awesome. Nikki T and Matt Burrell, just reach out to them and ask them where you can get it. [01:21:26] Speaker B: Yep. [01:21:26] Speaker A: Sure, they'll have an event near you at some point if you're in the Nashville area, but otherwise, if you look me up online, you'll find me at that handle. But if you need me in person, you'll probably find me on the runaway truck ramp on the downside of Mon Eagle on I 24. Just come out there and say hi. I might just break the grill out right there and just start cooking for all the guys running triple A down there. So bring your bad self. Just make sure you bring some chips. I don't know that we'll have any. And some other water. And some water for the dog. She's gonna need it. She's gonna be thirsty. So anyway, thank y'all. Y'all have a great 4 July. Here's the freedom. Whoo. [01:22:06] Speaker B: Peace. I don't drive a Monte Carlo, and my truck ain't painted black. It ain't got a big white number three. Turn it left around a track, but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can handle dirt don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses I make up my mind four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door checkers records my right foot tapered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl iron hard, fasten.