S2 Episode 19: 'Slippery When Wet'

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is Ray's rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. [00:00:11] Speaker B: What up, dog? [00:00:13] Speaker A: What's going on? Wet, wild and wonderful people, New Hampshire and the wet, mostly wet lobster. Mostly wet people. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Lobsters like wet, though. [00:00:23] Speaker A: So damn, I didn't even think about that. But there used to be in wet and salty. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:30] Speaker A: And I think the only. Well, it was plenty salty when the rain started coming down on Twitter, at least. So it was so salt in the air. [00:00:37] Speaker B: I was one of those salty people. [00:00:39] Speaker A: I ended up salty at the very end. [00:00:42] Speaker B: But is that your hack of the week? [00:00:45] Speaker A: Oh, you know it. [00:00:47] Speaker B: I'll get there 1st 30 seconds in. [00:00:50] Speaker A: The first 30 seconds. But I was. That's probably the most fired up I've been in a minute. But no, it was, it was a hell of a hell of a Sunday race, man. I just didn't see any of it coming. It was a lot of fun. I actually didn't even see the race coming, technically. I had a, I was like, I guess salty at the very beginning and the very end of the race. Yeah. [00:01:11] Speaker B: See, I thought this could also be your hack of the week. [00:01:13] Speaker A: This was also my hack of the week. It's my back hack of the week. But I'll just go ahead and go into this one since it's not my hack of the week, it's my back hack. We're doing it, I guess. What is this? A minute and 10 seconds into the pod? But this is how my Sunday race experience started. So as everybody knows, me and Allison, we just, we just moved into our house and we're still getting used to this place. It's smaller than what you'd expect. It's smaller than we even expected to find. But as home prices go now, I mean, we just kind of had to make some concessions somewhere. So we have about 950 something square feet and we had, even after the fire, about 1500 square feet worth of stuff. So we're trying to figure out like where to put everything and how to organize this place. We're already about to sell our couch because it's too big. All that good stuff. [00:02:04] Speaker B: The new couch is getting sold? [00:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just too big for the damn room, man. You can't walk around it. You kind of have to side shuffle in certain spots. So it's like we're just going to get rid of that because we can still get some good money out of it. And probably the couch we're going to buy because it's small will be about worth what this new couch is going to sell for. So we can probably just do an even trade and get something better for us. [00:02:25] Speaker B: But you should let me know about this couch situation, because me and Lindsey are wanting to get one of the connecting couch. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Ooh. Damn. If you want it, I'll just bring it down to Georgia. [00:02:35] Speaker B: I didn't know about this. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Damn, man. I need to post this shit on Facebook now. Just get it on Facebook marketplace to drive up the price. If anybody out there is listening, I got a couch for sale. Shoot me your best offer. Yeah, me your best offer. [00:02:50] Speaker B: Lindsey's. Lindsey had this furniture in our house, and the furniture is like La Z boy. Name brand, all the stuff. I mean, you've seen the couches, like, whatever, but the, like, sitting on the couches is not, like, they're not the comfiest. Like, I don't know. They're not. You can't even really lay on them. They're. They're just kind of like. The couches are more for looks than they were like. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah, they're for seating. They're for sitting down on. [00:03:14] Speaker B: Yeah, they're. They just. They're. They're more for looks, and they are, like, the actual purpose of them. And I've sat on your couch. I've slept on that couch. [00:03:21] Speaker A: You slept on that. I have slept on my couch that. [00:03:24] Speaker B: I like that couch. So. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Damn, man. We made a sale today. Race ready racing. We're gonna turn into the John Clay wolf show. Give me the vin.com. [00:03:35] Speaker B: So, yeah, we've. We've talked about getting one of the. The l shaped couches to, you know, half. So I'd be. That'd be cool. I didn't know I was a thing. [00:03:45] Speaker A: So that after the pod next week is gonna be Dawson. When he low balls me on this couch, he'll give me $5. [00:03:54] Speaker B: I have $3. [00:03:56] Speaker A: $3. [00:03:58] Speaker B: So anyway, you already had your first beer. If so, you gotta get it. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Don't worry. I got him reloaded. Don't worry. I got two more ready to go here. This is a drinking pod. We're going back to season one. [00:04:09] Speaker B: There we go. [00:04:10] Speaker A: Back to season one. Raised. Ready racing. You got me drinking. I had to pick up 30 boxes of merch earlier for Travis on the road, so I've already done my hard work for the day. Usually we're doing this at, like, 10:00 in the afternoon, and I had myself convinced that it's not a good idea. [00:04:25] Speaker B: You mean ten in the morning, man. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Maybe I should slow down. Anyways, so to get back to my story about how pissed off I am about the start of this race. As I was saying, we're trying to figure out where to put everything. Well, we had originally put our bedroom on one side of the hallway, and I was recording and doing all my NASCAR stuff was going to go in the room across. Well, we've since decided to flop those rooms, which I'm all for, but that turned in. That turns into a whole weekend of getting stuff out of one room into another room. We're building some shelves for the kitchen. We are hanging stuff. We are cleaning some stuff up, cutting shelves up. I mean, we're doing a whole bunch of different things. So all weekend we've been working on all this, and I've been watching my NASCAR icalendar that I've downloaded from the Internet to see when the race, when the races are starting. So I have not been on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, hardly at all all week and all weekend because we've been doing all this work. So I saw on the icalendar, it said 130 start time. But nowhere in my entire weekend had it ever been told or come across my radar that this race had been moved up by 30 minutes. So it was 133. And I knew, okay, I have a little bit of leeway. They're probably going to talk a little bit before the green flag flies. So at 133, I turn on YouTube tv, get ready to have the race on while we continue working. And they are already 17 laps to the end of stage one. And I was just confused. I was like, what the hell happened? Like, it's only been going for three minutes. Already 58 laps into this race. Like, what's going on? [00:06:09] Speaker B: Indycar speeds? [00:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, holy crap. And at first I thought that we were only 17 laps in. It made a little more sense, but still, I was surprised. Almost 60 laps into this. [00:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah, you had it backwards. It was like 17 to go. You thought it was 17, like, in or completed laps? [00:06:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So I've just, I texted Dawson's like, what the heck happened if they start this thing earlier? What? Like, I'm confused. Why are they already this far? And he's like, oh, they announced it, like, yesterday that they're going to start at 30 minutes early. And I was like, well, they didn't tell me shit because I even sent them a screenshot of the icalendar that still said 01:30 p.m. so my, I have a big bone to pick with NASCAR. And I put it on Twitter and Randy Adams liked it and reposted it, but I put it up on damn Twitter. And I said, NASCAR, we got to get this thing figured out because last week, Iowa, it said that it was supposed to start at midnight Saturday night. [00:07:03] Speaker B: It changed. It went from 330 to midnight to the original whatever it was then. Or I don't know if it said that, but then it actually started at whatever, six or 07:00. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't even think they ever put the accurate start time in all. [00:07:18] Speaker B: That one was all messed up. Actually. Neither one of us was a night race until like the day before or something. [00:07:26] Speaker A: And even door bumper clear was talking about it. And now this week you go on, I start watching what I was supposed to say. [00:07:33] Speaker B: His, his. He has the calendar, too. I love that his was, I guess everybody's was, but I love that, that Brett has the icalendar down. [00:07:40] Speaker A: Exactly. If that thing tells me that the race is starting at 02:00 in the morning, well, by God, at 02:00 in the morning, I'm going to have a beer in my hand. Ready to turn on NBC or USA. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:53] Speaker A: So when it said 130, I was on at 130, ready to rock, and I missed the whole first stage, had to back it on a recatch up. And once again, I was watching a race from behind unintentionally because of the way the schedule and all worked out and they just didn't announce it. So I was pissed for like the first stage and I finally let it go once I finally got to live. But it was like the end of stage two by the time I caught up. [00:08:16] Speaker B: Yeah, NASCAR has a rule, and I think this rule has been in place for a good while and they don't really use it that often, so that could be one of the reasons why it's not, other than like, you seen it on twitter and stuff. But they can change a race within 1 hour of this original start time if they announce it within 24 hours before the race was supposed to start. [00:08:40] Speaker A: Well, they must have just shouted it in the parking lot because I still never saw anything about them announcing it. [00:08:45] Speaker B: All I just saw yesterday or Saturday, whatever day it was when the, the same old Bob's and Jeff's and whoever all post. Yeah. That it was on there. If I would have known you didn't saw it, see it, I would have said something to you, but I had no idea. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Just never came across. But either way, I mean, ended up getting on there, but I caught up, saw pretty much the whole race. I only skipped like a couple minor things in stage two. If I had known there'd been a rain delay. I would have just let it play out, but not have probably caught right up right on time. [00:09:14] Speaker B: But this is one of the. This is one of the weekends I got to watch every single lap of xfinity and cup, which I enjoyed. The. The bush race, to me, xfinity race, to me, was, like, not great. And then at the end, it became like a wreck fest and all kind of stuff. But then they had all that strategy, and like I said, I was calling you. I was like. I was like, here we go. Like our dudes, we had a top five. Two top five bets going. I was like, they're running like, they're running like first and 6th. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Yeah, we have, like, this is perfect. Your and kwaple to finish top five. And they were almost doing it. [00:09:48] Speaker B: My favorite thing is the. The bonsaior. [00:09:52] Speaker A: He says, uh, my favorite thing is listening to you try to pronounce his name. [00:09:56] Speaker B: It's hard time with a dude's name, I'll be honest. And this is how out of the loop I am with modified racing. I'd never even heard of the guy. And then I saw, like I said, told you, I saw his stats and stuff, and then I went and looked up that he was in a Joe Gibbs car, and I was like, this is good. This is a good deal here. I like this. I did. I thought already, I was like, he's going to have problems on pit road. And about every single pit stop, he lost about three spots, but it was. He just did not have the experience. Yeah, one of the tops going on pit road, he came down pit road dirt tracking it completely sideways off the racetrack. I mean, it was pretty sick. He didn't wreck. It was just, like, coming off the track completely sideways. It was pretty badass. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. They do non competitives, or if they even stop. [00:10:41] Speaker B: I don't know if they have. Yeah, I don't even know. I don't watch a whole lot of modified racing. [00:10:46] Speaker A: I used to watch them when YouTube TV would randomly pick them up and record them for me. Yeah, it hasn't done that in a minute. [00:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah, man, though, that wreck with it was Sammy Smith and Sam Mayor just acting like boneheads. This I already. Yeah, this, this. Since this was kind of. This could be my hack of the week, possibly. I haven't made my final decision yet, but I was full of hacks. Yeah. I was so mad, I was pissed. I was on the phone with you when it happened. [00:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you were. You were calling me, literally trying to tell me that they were doing good by the time I answered the phone, they had already wrecked, and it was screwed. [00:11:31] Speaker B: I was so pissed because what kind of horseshit. I mean, the 19 was already, like, on the yellow line. Sammy Smith is underneath him. And then Sam Mayer goes to the inside wall, and me and Caleb are on top of the CBell hate club page. We also have a Sam Mayer hate club page, for sure. [00:11:52] Speaker A: He gets that page. Gets more and more. My favorite every single day. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Sam mayor is just not on our list of favorite guys. But what a boneheaded move to go all the way to the wall. Wash up, hit your teammate, and your teammate hits the guy, you know, that's coming into this series, kicking all of y'all's asses. And he actually won the modified race earlier that day, that morning. He won on Saturday morning. [00:12:19] Speaker A: So he's literally walking in there with bravado. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah. It was just stupid. So stupid. What I was getting at, though, my favorite thing about that specific thing was he was, like, on the radio, he was like, did I do anything wrong? And someone is like, nope, that's just this series. And it's like, damn. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Like, which just tells you everything you got to know. Like, people are literally calling them out and saying, now, this series, it's just how people race down here. It's like, yeah, because 90% of the time, these guys are pay to players, and they're just going down there. They don't care whose day they ruined. [00:12:52] Speaker B: The two that we're talking about specifically are hardcore pay to play guys. [00:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like, I always hate to say that because, like, just because you have money, like, let's see you actually perform first. If you have the talent to stick around and hell, yeah. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:06] Speaker A: But if you come in there and you just start wrecking people, and then we got Sam mayor announcing to the media he's pissed that he's not getting more attention for these cup series right now. [00:13:17] Speaker B: One of the most cringiest interviews I've possibly ever seen. [00:13:20] Speaker A: That dude is a walking cringe factory. Every time he celebrates, even door bumper clear is getting like, I don't know how I feel about that Superman celebration he's got. It's because. Yeah, it's Sam. Mary, you brought it up to me. [00:13:31] Speaker B: First that day, and you said you watched it, and I did not. I had not. It made me uncomfortable. [00:13:37] Speaker A: It made me uncomfortable. And then he's just pointing at the camera and all this. All that to say, I already didn't like the guy. I didn't have a whole lot of things to like, about him. And then you call and you tell me stuff like that, and it's just like, oh, my gosh, man. And this guy's mad that cup series are. People aren't looking his way. It's like, probably because of the things that you say do and. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:58] Speaker A: The way you race on the racetrack. [00:13:59] Speaker B: That interview is why he does not have cup cars knocking on his door. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Even though I was interested, I would immediately be turned off by that comment. I'd say, oh, really? You think you're entitled? You think that you deserve this ride? I'd back right out right there. [00:14:16] Speaker B: I'd say, yeah, Sam Mary would get his doors blown off in the cup series. [00:14:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And you're saying that as a guy who's won races in some of the best equipment in the Xfinity series. Talk to me. When you have to drive something like a 51 car to a top ten, like, Justin Haley's been doing all this. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Hailey, dude is, golly. I hate. I hate. Excuse me. They're not to switch gears on you, but the wreck that screwed Blaney, I hated it just as much for Justin Haley because that's him hitting the nose. The 34 is what screwed him to finish in the twenties because it. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah, he was in a. He was in, like, 6th or 7th when that happened. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Off pure. He was on the same strategy, too. Off pure pace, dude. I mean, I don't know what is going on, but. I don't know, but it is. It is awesome to see. And I was. I was. Part of me is like, dude, what could Justin Haley do in a top tier car? But then also part of me. I love how loyal he is in that statement he made last week. And he was like, if it wasn't for Rick Ware and Rick's wife, Linda, he was like, I wouldn't have had a job this year. I would probably be working a nine to five somewhere. And they gave me a chance. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:30] Speaker B: He was like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna screw that up. He's like, if he wants me here, this is where I'm gonna be. And I think as long as they're putting the people and the money into the car, dude, he's gonna squeak out some wins. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah. The way that they've been running, it's kind of unbelievable. [00:15:46] Speaker B: It's unbelievable. It's one of the more, like, wow. Things I've seen from a car like that in a long time. It reminds me, and TJ major said this, but it's. Give it. It's giving you glimpses of furniture row back in the day. Yeah, way back. [00:16:03] Speaker A: I loved it when he compared that. Yeah. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Back in the long time ago, like when Kenny Wallace was driving for them like the early two thousands. They were like a starting part car and they changed that from a starting part card like you said. Regan Smith gets in there, they win a race. Kurt Butch gets, bush gets in there to do well. Truex gets in there. That first year is terrible. After that dude wins a race every five races it seemed like. [00:16:29] Speaker A: Yeah. And gets championship for him. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah. It gives you glimpses of that when you've been watching Rick where run so bad for so long just with his son and whoever else runs in those cars. It's like. Yeah, they just run in the back and then now DBC's talked about it a lot with the people they've hired over there on, outside of Justin Haley, but the mechanics and the people and all that. And Justin Haley's a damn good race car driver, clearly. But also want to give a shout out. Casgralla has drove the 15 car way better than the 15 cars ever finished as well. It's not running the top ten every week, but it's running used to. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:09] Speaker B: I think he's 15 to a 20th. You know what I mean? It's crazy. [00:17:15] Speaker A: They've made huge leaps and bounds and it's awesome to see it, man. [00:17:18] Speaker B: It is. [00:17:18] Speaker A: It really is. And he's getting the recognition for it too. It's not like this is happening quietly. Like he's getting noticed and he's getting interviewed on live tv about performance. [00:17:28] Speaker B: They're showing the car more on television, which is great. [00:17:32] Speaker A: Always, you notice NBC has been showing a crapload about him and they're giving him interviews. I never really saw much of him when it we were talking Fox other than us paying attention. They talk about it a little bit here and there. [00:17:43] Speaker B: It's Fox. What can you expect? But yeah, it's also been a, it's not a slow climb. It's been a freaking up like this climb. But obviously the start of the year to where it is now. Like now NBC's picking it up. Where he's freaking over the past what do two months is his average running position is probably like twelve. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Which is like. No kidding. [00:18:03] Speaker A: If that doesn't sound impressive to you, you haven't been watching for very long. [00:18:06] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So that's like, that's the opposite of a heck of a week. That's like the wow moment of the week. [00:18:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:13] Speaker B: Every week here recently is like what Justin Haley's been doing in that 51 car. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Oh, no doubt. I mean, he's. He's right up there with Corey Lajoy. Daniel Hemrich and Austin Dillon went in the series standings. And that may sound like three names. Those are three names that are kind of, like, underperforming this year, and he's over performing and sitting in their same positions. [00:18:35] Speaker B: The seven car spent more time facing the wrong direction yesterday than he spent facing the correct direction yesterday, especially once. [00:18:42] Speaker A: The rain came down. Actually, once the rain came down. [00:18:45] Speaker B: Corey Lajoy, man, he is that guy. We talked about it a little bit, either last week or week before last, but he went, this guy that, like everyone loved to each week is just becoming the guy that talks like Tarzan, drives like Jane, and it is just more and more funny to watch. And then now some of the spotters are talking about it, people in the industry are talking about it. And then I feel like once the industry people start making those posts is when it's like a thing. You know what I mean? [00:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:15] Speaker B: People are really starting to notice that. I don't know. He's just not. He's getting outrun by his teammate every single week. [00:19:25] Speaker A: I don't think they'd even have as much to say about it if it wasn't for host of ours abilities. [00:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:30] Speaker A: Success that he's got. [00:19:32] Speaker B: If before, it would just be like, oh, it's fire, this, this, that. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:19:36] Speaker B: Now it's like, well, it's. You're getting outrun by your teammate every single week. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:42] Speaker B: You know, and. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Exactly. There was always where he's before now. [00:19:45] Speaker B: Always an excuse. Now there's no excuses and there's. [00:19:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we know your team is capable. So what's going on with you? [00:19:52] Speaker B: Yeah, rough yesterday for some big name teams, dude, yesterday was a rough day. RCR horror, the 99 car horror, horrible. Seven car horrible. Both colleague cars, horrible. Those. Those are some of the first ten ish guy. Ten ish guys to go a lap down yesterday. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It was, uh, it was really interesting. That's big because just like they said, with all of those, just as many of those big guys that fell super far, some younger teams and worse teams, frankly, or what should be worse teams succeeded. I mean, you have legacy running really good. [00:20:39] Speaker B: I'm talking about before the rain came to, like, that was before the rain and then the rain. I got so pissed yesterday. Not, not me. [00:20:48] Speaker A: And you differed an opinion on this for sure. [00:20:51] Speaker B: This isn't even about that yet. This is about post shr made. Shr made a post about. About Briscoe and Barry and how good of a day they did. Fucking Ryan Priest went from 30th to 11th, and they didn't even mention the man on the damn socials until later. They made a post later. I saw the post. It was possibly this morning when I saw it. They made a post later about Ryan Priest. But the original post, after the race, they didn't even. They got four cars. They didn't even mention. They mentioned two of their cars, and the third one finished 11th, went from 30th to 11th. From the. From the. When the rain started or from the red flag to end the race. What the hell? Did Ryan Priest not get a damn mention on the, on the. On the social media post there? [00:21:36] Speaker A: I guess you gotta finish top ten to get it mentioned or top. [00:21:40] Speaker B: But golly, I was like, you gotta be kidding me. I retweeted it. I was like, just no love for priests and p eleven here. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Dude. It was a wild day for social media and NAScar, for sure. I wasn't even really on it. I just saw the fallout. I didn't even get a chance to be on it much. [00:21:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I was one of those. I went on one of those days yesterday while I was just tweeting all kind of shit. I was originally so mad. And yes, we have different opinions on this, which is totally fine. I just thought. And even, like I said, dale junior and everybody else, it's like you waited and waited and waited 30 something minutes. You could have got. You could have at least tested those rain tires until the rain came. And then, like I said, I posted. I was like, if this race goes the full way and they run these rain tires and give it a shot, I'll take back everything I said. And I stand by that because I was ready to come on here and just be pissed off. And then all that changed when we got to run 80 something laps and they finished the race and it was on rain tires, and they did what they said they were gonna do with rain tires. So I was like, okay, here we go. I'm. I'm back. Okay. Again. [00:22:51] Speaker A: See, that's the funny part, was I was watching all this go on from the outside because I wasn't on Twitter. I was just kind of catching whatever you told me. And I was seeing a couple things get said here and there. Whenever I got a chance to, like, get on for just a moment to see if they were going to restart it or not, or they'd called it, and you were just fired up about it, like, why the hell are we not putting rain tires on? And I was sitting there the whole time just thinking to myself, if they put rain tires on these cars right now and a rain comes down, like a good hard rain comes down and everyone wrecks, it's gonna immediately put a sour taste in every person in the industry and every fan's mouth about these rain tires, because as soon as that rain falls down and they can't see and they can't roll correctly, they're gonna wreck like hell and everybody's gonna get pissed when their whole field gets taken out, including their driver. I think NASCAR did exactly what it should have done. I think they handled it absolutely perfectly. I think we just have a bad habit, and it's for very good reason, but a bad habit of always assuming they're making the wrong call before the call has a chance to fully get made, which it makes total sense because NASCAR has botched a lot of calls in the past 24 years. A lot of them. [00:24:10] Speaker B: 24 specifically? [00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:13] Speaker B: The 24 years specifically, yes. [00:24:16] Speaker A: These last. Well, these last 24 years. Because I don't know much about NASCAR before 2000. I mean, I know a little bit, but I don't know a ton. Most of my knowledge comes from, like, post 2000, but it's just funny to see everybody immediately reacts and has an opinion before the chances don't call is a real good chance to be made. But once they actually got the cars on the track, I think they did it perfectly because what they were hoping for is we need a controlled situation that we know we're not going to have a crazy number of variables entering it because we're still not used to these tires. And we've got a lot of different drivers with a lot of different backgrounds, some of which may have experience with these tires and some that don't. So to even this field out, we want to make sure that it's not a random variable that decides the win. It's truly the driver's skill. And I think that's exactly what happened. They waited till all the rain was passed. They put cars out on the track with wet weather tires on, on a damp racetrack that they absolutely could have spent the time to drive, and they wouldn't have been able to finish the race on time if they did that, which was perfect. Yeah, it gave us a chance to watch them race with the rain tires, give us a chance to see it on an oval again and just see how it all shakes shook out without there having to be a rain cloud that is slowly coming at us that could deluge on us at any moment and ruin this entire race. So I think at some point, we'll get to the point where they can just let the teams make an audible and just say, look, you better get some practice on racing in the wet at some point. And most of that's going to happen in a race. I just don't. I agree with whoever it was on the broadcast saying it. We're just not ready yet for that kind of thing to just happen because there's just not enough info, data, or knowledge, or ability for a lot of these drivers to do it. Whereas some of these other guys, and like IndyCar f one or whoever actually races in the rain, EMSA, they grew up and have experience before they reach that professional level of racing in the rain. And you're asking these guys in their professional series to just say, hey, we're just going to drop this on you learn how to do this now, and it's completely foreign to them. It's just unfair to think that we can do that in a situation where the variables may change all of a sudden, in a moment, and now the entire race is ruined just because we wanted to get them racing sooner rather than when the timing would be better. [00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like so 99% of the time, I've brought this up before. 99% of the time on Twitter, I'm talking to a wall because there, you know, no interaction. Just, you know, the way it is. Um, yesterday, I finally had another, my random, you know, like two a year that pop off a little bit. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Uh, and I was so glad that people felt the same way because I got some. Got a couple followers, a couple likes off of this, but a few thousand people saw it. But, dude, Jeff Burton was driving me bonkers yesterday. He. He was so against. He was not. He was not down for. For rain tire race. He's just given every single reason why we should not do this. And I was like, jeff Burton has a flat and a steak dinner that he is not trying not to miss, and he is ready to roll. He is ready to get the first flight out of Loudon so fast he cannot wait, dude. And I was like, I posted, like, jeff Burton does not want to be here. Like, if you don't want to be here, just leave. And then everybody liked and retweeted all that, and I was like, hell, yeah. I'm not the only one that thinks Jeff Burton's. [00:27:47] Speaker A: That's funny. [00:27:48] Speaker B: I'm ready to roll. [00:27:49] Speaker A: See, I I'm with you. I wanted to see it happen. I wanted them to get back to race. I don't care if it's on wets, dries, whatever. Just get them back on the damn track. So I didn't get to. I wasn't listening during the red flag. I was out there sanding some fucking boards. [00:28:03] Speaker B: My biggest thing was Jeff Burton. I'm looking at the talk. Like, he continued to talk down upon the whole idea the whole time. And me personally, and Kirk, our buddy, we met in the near from the Austin San Antonio show that came out. He texted me, he was like, this is where the broadcast is missing Dale junior. Because Dale Junior would have been in there hopping this up and, like, how cool this is. And, yeah, I was like, holy shit, I could not agree more. Like, you are exactly right. Like, dell Junior being here. Like, this is awesome. Yada, yada, yada, you know, whatever. And then it might have worked well with Jeff Burton. Like, Dale Junior is going to give you every reason you should do this. Jeff Burton's going to give you every reason you shouldn't. But yesterday, you just kind of had Steve Latard talking. Rick Allen didn't really give opinion about it, obviously. And then you had Jeff Burton, who's like, giving us, the fans, every single reason why they should not do this. And I'm just like, damn, Jeff. Like, if you got to go, dog, it's all we can finish it with Rick and Latard. Like, it'll be fine. [00:29:08] Speaker A: That's so funny. But I had to move over. The sun's baking me from this window I just moved in front of. But no, that's hilarious. I just. I, like, I said I was out, but I missed the whole red flag period, which red flag periods, honestly, are entertaining for the first 30 minutes, and then after that, it's just, somebody give me an alarm when it started back up again because there's only so much radioactive and last week's race that I. [00:29:33] Speaker B: Can watch something else. Dude, even after the race is going, the race is going on. Like, the race is happening with the wet weather tires. And there's a couple guys throughout the field that are, like, wanting to put. Put dries on, put slicks on or whatever. And Jeff burns like, no, this track is not ready for slicks. Don't eat. No, no chance. You know, whatever. I'm just like, damn, dude, like, what is your deal? Like, why are you so against this? Like, just let it be, dog. You're not in the car. Just let it be. Those smartest people and most highly paid and intelligent people on pit road, like, I promise they got it under control down there. [00:30:12] Speaker A: Jeff, I don't know. He seemed a little worried about him, man. [00:30:15] Speaker B: He seemed worried. He was worried to death. [00:30:17] Speaker A: I'm like, which, I mean, I get part of it. If you're a team owner and they want to put you out there on wet weather tires and your drivers never done this before, it's like, well, you might just go out there and cost me $200,000 because of this wet weather package right now. [00:30:30] Speaker B: But Jeff has no skin in the game. That's exactly what. [00:30:34] Speaker A: His son's out there. His son's out there. He's worried. His son had the best finish that he's had in probably 20 years. He probably saw that. We're just like. We look up the stats. Where was Harrison Burton running for the. [00:30:48] Speaker B: Moment before the rain, dude, where was. [00:30:51] Speaker A: He running during the rain delay? [00:30:53] Speaker B: The rain. [00:30:53] Speaker A: The rain, you. Everything you need to know. [00:30:56] Speaker B: That is a great point. But the rain also saved Harrison Burton because I think he ended up finishing like in the top ten, which he did. He meant only top finished ever in the cup series. [00:31:07] Speaker A: No, it wasn't a top ten. It was an almost top ten. It was one of those Deegan top tens. You know, he finished in 14th. [00:31:15] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it was better than that. Maybe he was running in like. [00:31:18] Speaker A: He was running at some point. He was in like 7th or 8th. I do remember that. [00:31:22] Speaker B: I got you. [00:31:24] Speaker A: But that might have been it, dude. It might have been that he just saw his son sitting there in top ten position being like, all right, man, we got to call this race right here. [00:31:33] Speaker B: This looks so someone commented on that post actually, I think. And if you're looking at it, you might can see it right now. But said like that he did an interview on Sirius and said that like how sad and painful it is to watch Harrison run 30th every week. Do you. Does that. Do you see the comments? [00:31:52] Speaker A: Right. He hates watching his own. His son every week. He had an interview with David Mooney last week. Says it's painful to watch. Kind of sad, really. Jeb Burton would have done it better. I agreed with everything until that last sentence saying. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Cuz that. That is. I do not agree at all about that. Yeah, last part. But one. I don't know if that's true and I've never seen that interview, but that could have been why he wanted. He wanted the. Wanted to call it so he can see the 21 up front. So. Yeah, I don't know. [00:32:31] Speaker A: Oh man, that is just hilarious. [00:32:34] Speaker B: Not to, uh, not to get into hack of the week yet. Again, obviously, but I did want to break down the McDowell thing for a second on that restart. [00:32:44] Speaker A: This actually, never mind. Go ahead. [00:32:49] Speaker B: This took me right back to a year or so ago when Chastain and Larson lined up on the front row on overtime restart at Darlington. Larson was in his throwback Tony Stewart car. I said before the green flag, I was like, chastain is going to go down into this corner and absolutely not off the gas and wreck everybody. And it happened. And I was like, yesterday, I said. I was like, McDowell is about to go down in this corner and not let off. And I didn't. I was like, he's going to. It's going to wreck. And he already said on his interview, like, yeah, I'm not holding back. Whatever. I don't remember exactly, word for word what he said, but I'm not holding back. And I literally said, I was like, McDowell's about to go in here and cause the biggest wreck of the weekend. And it wasn't the biggest wreck of the weekend, but he went down in there and just pile drives Blaney and screwed the 50 one's day up as well. Doing. [00:33:40] Speaker A: Dude, I was so mad. I was livid when that went down, which he's slammed now. [00:33:47] Speaker B: He should have slammed on the brain. Just let me down. Go off into the wild blue yard. [00:33:52] Speaker A: It just sucks because no matter what Blaney did, he was going to lose spots, because Michael McDowell. [00:33:58] Speaker B: McDowell. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Because of a desperate act to win a race that he had no business winning in the. In the first place. And at the end of the day, that's the part that I'm so frustrated with, is Blaney literally ran second to fourth, maybe down into 6th or 7th off a battery start or that one random issue out on the back stretch at the beginning of the race. But all race long, he's worked his ass off and done everything he can to be in the top three cars in the conversation for a win all day long. And one guy just decides, well, screw it. I'm just going to do everything I can. And he wrecks, wrecks out this other guy who's been working his ass off running up there naturally, all damn day. I was mad as hell. I was like, what are you thinking? I like Michael McDowell. But right there, I wanted to punch him in the noggin, man. I was pissed. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. It's like the things. I can't believe this just happened. But also can totally, like, yeah, I totally believe this just happened. Like, I just saw it coming. It was just written on the wall. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:00] Speaker B: This is gonna happen on this. [00:35:02] Speaker A: The writing was on the side of Ryan Blaney's car, and Michael McDowell couldn't quite see it well enough, so he had to get right up air on him. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, man. I just really. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Yeah. That was just horseshit. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:13] Speaker A: I can't believe that Blaney wasn't more mad than he was. Blaney had a legitimate shot to win that race. [00:35:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:19] Speaker A: And Michael McDowell just screwed him out of it. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:23] Speaker A: What a dumbass hack of the week move, man. That's where I'm at. [00:35:26] Speaker B: Think about Bubba going down and parking his car in front of Gregson on pit road. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Made no sense to me. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Made no sense to me, either. If Gregson would have went in the corner and did that move, like, if he. If somebody would have pulled McDowell on Bubba. Yeah. I probably would have just drove my car into the driver's side door, honestly, like. Yeah, you know, but the ten just got down on the bottom and spun out when he got in the paint. Same thing that Keselowski did there. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:35:55] Speaker B: On the paint, and just spun out and. Yeah, Bubba hit the wall head on. I totally understand these piss, but it's. It was not like, I'm going in the corner to wreck you move. So I'm gonna. It didn't deserve the whole park the car on pit road and all that. I just did. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah. It really didn't. That was just an honest. I'm trying my damnedest in this weird ass position that we've all been put in, and I failed. And I'm sorry about that, but this is an uncomfortable situation for everyone. [00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:23] Speaker A: And I'm sorry that it took you out, too, but, I mean, that's. That is the definition of a racing deal. Sometimes you're going to wreck, and sometimes that wreck is going to hurt other people's day, too. Yeah, but that's part of NASCAR. You just got to know that kind of stuff is going to happen to you. And if you're really that mad about it, you're probably more worried about your playoff earth than anything else. And Gregson has nothing to do with the first 13 races that you've ran all year. Twelve or 13. So why are you just suddenly mad at him right now for accidentally wrecking underneath you? Like, where are you going to go to the garage next drivers meeting? Hey, no one's allowed to wreck around me in a way that will affect my day. If you were going to wreck around me, please take out only the competitors. I am trying to pass. Thank you. [00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I was in the same way. I was like, this is just, this is Bubba Wallace. Like, this is him, right? This, doing that. I was like, that is just who he is as a person. I was. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Yep. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Checks out. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Every now and then, he just makes a really. Yeah. Weird decision. [00:37:24] Speaker B: And in Steve Latar was known. Yeah. Steve Latar. He was even like, yeah, that's, uh. Probably should watch out with that one. Like, one stopping on pit road. NASCAR hates to. When his guys are out there on pit road and the pit road is wet. Like, come on now. [00:37:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that was just. Yeah. Unbelievable. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:49] Speaker A: And then you had, speaking of people getting called for trying to do things under a wet condition, Ricky Stenhouse tries to make a pass under caution when all the other cars are slowing down trying to get in that wet stuff down the bottom of the track. Did you see this? [00:38:03] Speaker B: Yeah. They're running 10 miles an hour in a caution. I don't know what the fuck they want you to do. I'm like, yeah, I kind of agree in a way. In a way, it's like they were going way slow. [00:38:16] Speaker A: I love the fact that he tried it because if it had worked, he would. [00:38:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:21] Speaker A: He would have looked like a damn genius. [00:38:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:24] Speaker A: And they've. They've already been known this year to make a bold strategy call that helps them out in the long run. [00:38:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:30] Speaker A: And that could absolutely work great. And I love that they tried it because it's like, you know what? The worst they could do is send you back to where you're supposed to be because this is a legitimate move every other week. [00:38:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:41] Speaker A: And I get where NASCAR is coming from. They're like, hey, it's a wet track. [00:38:45] Speaker B: This. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Everybody's uncomfortable right now. Let's not make it worse by. [00:38:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Having everybody trying to pass each other because then you're gonna have guys going through a puddle. [00:38:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker A: 90 miles an hour under caution and wrecking the hell out of themselves because they're worried about losing their spot on. [00:38:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Some of those pictures, obviously, it was cool. It was cool to me when they were going down on the front stretch in the water, throwing the water everywhere. Some of those pictures, I think personally, because I saw some people post some of, like, the guys that were going down there and all the puddles were down, you know, down there. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:16] Speaker B: I think some of those pictures are, like, not to be dramatic here, but go down in history in a way of, like, they're just, like, going down there and doing that and, like, having this race in the wet and, like, all this stuff yeah. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Total different thing that they've never done before. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So I just, I thought the pictures were super cool, them going through the water, and it was splashing that water over pit wall and all the things. And then I was dying on the back stretch when they were running down there super low where the. Where the road course is. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Yeah, through the grass. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:50] Speaker A: I was like, he was awesome. [00:39:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I was like, this is crazy. [00:39:54] Speaker A: And he did it two or three laps in a row. He just kept doing it because he's like, well, there's guaranteed moisture there. I mean, it makes total sense. Why wouldn't you go down that way? [00:40:02] Speaker B: You want Joe to make an appearance? [00:40:05] Speaker A: Oh, we got a. We got a guest on the segment. [00:40:08] Speaker B: Ramsey jewel. [00:40:09] Speaker A: It's going on Rams Ramsey. [00:40:11] Speaker B: She's been on here before, I think. [00:40:13] Speaker A: Yep. Guest appearance number two, big fan of the rain tires. [00:40:16] Speaker B: We heard you barking. Yeah, Lindsey just got here, so she was barking a little bit. We could hear. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Oh, I heard her. Yeah. [00:40:26] Speaker B: What did you say? Lindsey said, go Hamlin. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:40:30] Speaker B: Was hardcore not gone about going on the wet tires. Him and jeff Burton should have went Nate steak together after the race, cuz. [00:40:37] Speaker A: They could probably the guy that he was supposed to go and eat with. [00:40:40] Speaker B: Yeah, they could have jihad on that the rest of the night. And Denny, unless something dramatically changed in his opinion, I have a feeling his, his opinion on his podcast is going. [00:40:51] Speaker A: To be like, oh, we're not ready. [00:40:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:55] Speaker A: I mean, he went from running 2nd, 3rd down to running 24th after the race was over, dude, after the wet. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Weather stuff, freaking Parker clergyman said it twice on the broadcast, but he said, denny Hamlin's dropping like a rock. And I was like, golly, I love it. I was so. See, this is where we're getting into my hack of the week situation here. This is why I was holding off. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Well, the people have already heard my hack of the week, so go for it, man. [00:41:21] Speaker B: So mad at Denny Hamlin. Yesterday, he was racing Kyle Larson like an absolute asshole. And then car Lars, Kyle Larson's spotter, gets on there and says, you know why he does that? Did you let it happen every week? I couldn't agree more. Kyle Busch lets Denny Hamlin bully him every time he's around him. [00:41:43] Speaker A: Kyle Larson. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Yeah. What I say? [00:41:45] Speaker A: You say Kyle Busch. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Sorry. Kyle Larson lets Dean your hack of the week. No, Denny Hamlin is for racing like a fucking. [00:41:53] Speaker A: Sounds like Kyle Larson's your hack of the week. [00:41:56] Speaker B: I just was so frustrated about that, too. Speaking of Kyle Busch as well, what an absolute disaster. Of a day. One of the worst races I've ever seen Kyle Busch enter in my whole entire life. I've been watching Kyle Busch race since I was like ten years old. [00:42:14] Speaker A: It gets worse when you put it in perspective of it's been an entire month of those races. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:20] Speaker A: Genuinely seen four of the worst performances. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Like 30 place finishes. Like four weeks straight, week after week. [00:42:27] Speaker A: After week after week. It's unbelievable right now. [00:42:31] Speaker B: What in the world do you think happened to that car under caution? [00:42:34] Speaker A: I have no idea. I still have no idea. [00:42:37] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't. I was like, you got to be kidding me. And dude, I was like, did it break? [00:42:46] Speaker A: Did like the toe link just give out? [00:42:48] Speaker B: Like, did he hit water? I don't know. Did he just say. [00:42:50] Speaker A: The only thing I can think this either it was something random that happened because of the wet weather stuff, because it wasn't just him, somebody. I think it was Corey. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Corey la Joy. Corey Joyce yesterday than forwards. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it just was weird. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Or fuel on the fire of. We should not be doing this. I don't know if you remember that part of the broadcast as well, but. [00:43:09] Speaker A: He was like, I mean, at that point, you just gotta argue that they should take the wet weather tires away. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:43:15] Speaker A: They screw that. [00:43:16] Speaker B: They should just set them on fire, not put them in the hauler, you know? [00:43:19] Speaker A: You know how much fun I want I had watching them race those rain tires. I had so much fun because it was something I've never seen before. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Exactly. The whole someone posted about Bristol, New Hampshire and Iowa having these great races this year, and it's like, well, if we can have these great races here, like, there's got to be something in there that we can find in these short tracks. You know what the common denominator is between New Hampshire being wet, Bristol on the new tire, on the wearing out tires, and Iowa with the repave and going so fast. You know what the three. The common denominator is between those three races? [00:43:57] Speaker A: You had no idea what was going to happen. [00:43:59] Speaker B: You had no grip and that. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:02] Speaker B: You had no grip and the tires wore out. [00:44:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And you genuinely had no idea what was going to happen. [00:44:10] Speaker B: No happen. And that is what made those races awesome. [00:44:14] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. If Christopher Bell goes out and wins New Hampshire yesterday and it never rained, it would be a boring race. It would be probably 30% on the Jeff Gluck pole. No one would have had fun. It would have been a parade lap the entire time. But because it was low grip and because it was difficult to do even though Christopher Bell still ended up winning. It was a fun race to watch. [00:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And Christopher Bell is the goat at New Hampshire. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Four for foreign xfinity is just a mind boggling stat. That is unbelievable. I can't believe somebody has actually accomplished that. Feet of. [00:44:50] Speaker B: He's the only one. He's the only one. [00:44:52] Speaker A: That's the first time I've ever seen a negative number on a bet line for a winner ever in my entire life. Even Kyle Busch in the truck Series only got as low as plus 100. I thought you couldn't even double your money on Christopher Bell if you bet him for the win on the xfinity. [00:45:09] Speaker B: I never get. I never thought. And granted, I've only been doing the NASCAR betting since the beginning of before year before last, so I'm not like a seasoned vet or anything, but I never, ever would have thought that a winning bet would be a winner bet would be minus money. I just never would have thought. Yeah, never thought that. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Just mind blowing. [00:45:35] Speaker B: But they were right. I mean, they're right. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:38] Speaker B: And they all just mean it's gonna. [00:45:40] Speaker A: Be worse next time. [00:45:41] Speaker B: Next time. Yeah. They almost weren't right. I mean, dude, somebody else we can talk about here. How many times can Sheldon Creed get out of a race car and just be like, it is what it is. [00:45:56] Speaker A: I heard him talking the other day when they asked him what it felt like to finish second, like, four times this year or like seven times in the Xfinity Series. What? What was like to finish second? He's like, well, I think it means we're doing pretty dang good. I I know some people look down on that, and I just look at it like, well, right there every day, and it's like, dude, you're right there, but you're not there yet. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:19] Speaker A: It's like, how excited can you be about finishing second? Seven times after the first couple, though, he. The joy of it kind of goes away, and you're just finishing second. [00:46:27] Speaker B: He has ten second place finishes, but the problem is, to me, he shoots himself in the foot, like when he went in the corner and got into Custer on that. Coming to that last lap to get bail, when they went three rider for the white flag. Went, like three wide across the start finish line. You have to know, you have to get away, because if Custer gets back to you, he is going to give you the bumper, and you are not going to win the race. And that is exactly what happened. Goes into the corner leading Custer, bumps him bail, passes. [00:47:02] Speaker A: Yep. [00:47:03] Speaker B: You can't. That's just a dumb move. That's a dumb, that's a, that's a, that's a Michael McDowell low percentage move. As he said, like you better, you gotta get away. [00:47:17] Speaker A: And you've been racing these guys for a good few years. All, all of those guys you have been around multiple times. I mean, Bell maybe the least amount out of all of them because he's up in the cup series now. [00:47:29] Speaker B: But him and cuz you're around him. Wow. [00:47:32] Speaker A: All the time you're around all these other guys that keep on moving you out of the way or doing stuff and you're, and you're still making those bad low percentage moves. I mean, eventually you do have to learn and your experience has to start meaning something on the racetrack at this point. If somebody told me, well, he's a very experienced driver, it's like, well, yeah, he's experienced second place or worse in his entire career. He's never experienced first. Yeah. And that tells you everything you need to know about his experience. It's not really worth much until you get those wins. [00:48:03] Speaker B: Yeah, no one. And that's another, no one's calling him for a cup rod. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:07] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:48:08] Speaker A: Back in the day, he couldn't even find a sponsor, which I get that that's difficult. But then he has somebody come up to him and says, I want to give you ten grand to sponsor your car. And he says, marcus, I am worth more than ten grand. And you're going out there improving every day. That that might not be the case. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:24] Speaker A: So you want to talk about somebody who talks like Tarzan, races like Jane, I think Sheldon Creed, Mister Whoville himself. That's exactly who I think. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with you 100%, dude. He just doesn't, I don't know what it is, but he does not, he. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Doesn'T do it for me. [00:48:44] Speaker B: He should go race back for RCR cuz they don't like it back. They don't like winning at RCR in a Cup series. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Oh, that's a good point, man. Well, whenever finds his way out of his contract at the end of the year, he might just have a job. [00:48:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think RCR is completely done with Sheldon Creed. But I was, I've said it on here to you. I said it to some people yesterday that was texting about the race like they are, they're just okay with being mediocre at RCR. Like they're okay with the no winning culture at RCR. And that's just like, just fine. [00:49:16] Speaker A: I just hate it. I saw a tweet yesterday that I thought was just a really well worded statement about Kyle Busch's year. And I think it was Jeff Gluck said, man, I can't imagine being Kyle Busch at 39 knowing I just spent one of my few remaining prime racing career years racing for RCR and finishing in 30th place four weekends in a row and sitting this low in the driver's standings with no chance in sight of a win anytime soon. Yeah, like, that's such a great way to put it. Like, he got, he moved out of Joe Gibbs and dropped like a rock and is basically mister irrelevant right now. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:58] Speaker A: It wasn't for everything he's always done, there'd be no talk. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. Yeah, you just saw it coming. Really. Even with the three wins last year. I know one of the, one of those was under caution at Talladega, which I don't. That's a win in the stat book. It doesn't matter. He went out there at California and Gateway and dominated those races last year and deserved those wins. But when everyone, or everyone, when we all saw that he was going to RCR, other than things like the rotten. Just kind of on the wall, he just kind of saw this coming, you know, like, they just don't. RCR just don't. I don't know what it is they don't have, but they don't have it. [00:50:49] Speaker A: They do not. [00:50:51] Speaker B: I mean, we're closest ever having three. [00:50:53] Speaker A: Wins by Tyler Reddick. [00:50:56] Speaker B: And then Tyler Eddie skipped town faster than anything I've ever seen because I. [00:51:00] Speaker A: Think saw what was going on, and he said the only reason this car won was because we got lucky a few times. But this ain't working. I'm leaving. I'm out. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that's ex. That's exactly right. And it's like they're the. The longer Austin Dillon is in the car, they are just okay with not winning. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a, it's a sad fact, but Austin. Austin's not helping them out any. They're not helping themselves out any. The only thing that I've heard from anyone industry wide, from RC, industry wise, from RCR, is when Richard Childress himself talks about wanting to beat the crap out of the Ricky Stenhouse. That is the only public anything I've seen stated by anyone there. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker A: That's been put out to, like, the general, broader public. Maybe something's been on Twitter I just may have missed. But that's the only thing I've seen on the broadcast from anyone at that team talking about what do they have to say about how poorly they've performed with one of the greatest race car drivers that have ever sat in the NASCAR Series car? [00:52:06] Speaker B: Tough pill to swallow that to me. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Explain that to me. I just don't think you can. [00:52:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it just. Yeah, it's messed up, and it is what it is. But, uh, I loved yesterday. My mom texted, I think it was me and you, but I think it was me and you or me and Megan. Or me, you and Megan. I don't remember. But she's like, I hear y'all talking about RCR on the podcast. Like, I thought RCR was the place. And I was like, yeah, in the Earnhardt and Harvick days, RCR was the place. [00:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's been about two decades. [00:52:41] Speaker B: That has not been a thing since 20, 1420 when he went to Stewart Haas. [00:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:51] Speaker B: And they on the downhill slide at the end of Harvick's stint there. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it just. It's just like any other team. It all. It's only good until it isn't, until you're not good anymore. And a lot of it has to do with just inner workings at the team. But, I mean, a great modern example is watching what happened with Shr. All of a sudden, it's starting to seem more and more like Tony was the one that really just wanted to be out, which we all knew that was the case when he started going over to drag racing and was racing there. He got married there. He's hit. All of his focus is there, and you can kind of see that he was a lot less interested, but you didn't know fully the extent of his disinterest. [00:53:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Until now. All of a sudden, he's pulling out. Three of those cars are going away. Only one is going to be remaining. Who knows how good it's even going to be? And just Tony's just said, signora, and we've been watching for the last two years how that mental decline or how that mental feeling of not having your owner in it anymore caused that team to just tank. So as soon as you stop caring about winning, winning stops happening. So you're seeing a modern version. Yeah, that's a good way to put it, too. But, yeah, I just see, you could see that decline happening here once again. It's like you've already seen it happen once in the. In the past. Now we're getting to watch it again. It's just like, when are they gonna learn? If you want to win at this series, you can't just expect to get wins. You have to want it so bad. It's the only thing you think about. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And there was a time here, just a few short years ago that RCR's two full time drivers in the cup series was Daniel Hamrick and Austin Dillon. [00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah, think about it. [00:54:38] Speaker B: You know, I'm just gonna leave it at that. [00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah, think about it. Oh. [00:54:44] Speaker B: Anyways, coming up this week, Nashville, Tennessee, aka eleven in Tennessee, aka the hottest race. [00:54:51] Speaker A: Hottest America. [00:54:52] Speaker B: It'll be the hottest race of the year. It's supposed to be, I looked supposed to be 90 degrees and I want to say there's a chance of rain. Just, just tack it on there. [00:55:03] Speaker A: Oh, my God. And it's been. I can speak to it. [00:55:06] Speaker B: 94 degrees and 45% chance of rain. In Nashville, Tennessee, Saturday. Let me just hit you with this. Friday for the truck race, 92 degrees. Saturday for the xfinity race, 97 degrees. Sunday for the cup race, 94 degrees, 45% chance of rain. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Dude, that's just unbearable. [00:55:30] Speaker B: We're going to race this race in the middle of the afternoon when it gets the hottest part of the day. [00:55:36] Speaker A: Truck series at 07:00 p.m. is a great start time. I don't know why we're not doing that. For every single one of these cars or every single one of these races, Xfinity series is going to start at four in the afternoon. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Like, hottest part, literally the hottest part. [00:55:50] Speaker A: Of the day there during the hottest part of the day. And then you got be there during the hottest part of the day, and then the cup race is going to start even earlier. So it's not even to the hottest part of the day yet. Getting those damn stands. There is a reason that neither of us are going to that race, and that is exactly it. [00:56:05] Speaker B: I've said it on here last year, we were sitting there, I was like, dude, I just am not. I love the atmosphere of a race and I love drinking beer and hanging out with my friends and we're eating food and like, it was a great time, but I am tired of being hot. [00:56:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:20] Speaker B: And it is just. [00:56:22] Speaker A: We have a worse experience with it these days than before. I mean, we have to be these kind of events. We're every single week. Yeah, I just can't do it. We're coming off of a three day weekend when one of the three rocks the country show, and I don't think. I can't physically take it. Yeah, yeah. It's was a night race. I would. I would be there. If this was a night race, I would absolutely be there. [00:56:48] Speaker B: It's. Yeah. [00:56:48] Speaker A: I just cannot justify going out there and putting myself in that kind of a position like I. By the end of this next weekend, because of these three shows that we have. We have one show in Terre Haute, Indiana. It's going to be an outdoor show, popular bluff, Missouri, for a rock the country festival. Outdoor, obviously. [00:57:09] Speaker B: And it's devil's asshole there. [00:57:11] Speaker A: And then we go to Marksville, Louisiana, and I think that one's inside. But still, we're already two shows and got to work a whole nother day and then just come home and go right back into that heat, dude. I don't think my body can take it. I think I would actually have a chance of a full blown bad heat stroke and possibly just passing away right there at the racetrack. [00:57:30] Speaker B: I mean, great place to pass away, but I just don't want that to happen for any of us. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm just going to have to enjoy this race from the comfort of my own bedroom. About 45, 50 miles away from the. [00:57:42] Speaker B: Racetrack and about 45 degrees cooler in your house. [00:57:46] Speaker A: Yeah. That's just sad. I just can't believe I'm having to say that, but especially if it's. If it rains in the middle of that day. Just yesterday it rained while we were flipping our bedroom. And I went back outside after the sun came back out, and it was like my breath got taken away. It was so hot and humid. I mean, it was like getting into a convection oven. [00:58:07] Speaker B: Yep. [00:58:07] Speaker A: I can't imagine going up in those stands and sitting in that. [00:58:10] Speaker B: I've said this before, but, like, at Nashville, I've been to a good bunch of races at a good different bunch of different tracks. There is nothing hotter than this Nashville race. I don't. It's just. There's nothing. I don't know why Nashville race. I don't know why only. But I agree, even yesterday, because I was thinking about my quote here, walking across the parking lot, the grocery store, and it's just hotter than shit yesterday, you know? And I'm like, you know, I'm sitting there on the concrete or I'm walking across the asphalt there, and it's like. It's hotter than hell. Like, I'm not, like, feeling that heat off the concrete. You know something about this race. Now, me and Caleb have been to these races all three years they've been in Nashville. [00:58:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And one time I went to all three of the races they had that weekend. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:59] Speaker A: So it's not that I haven't. I can't do it. We won't do it anymore. Yeah. [00:59:03] Speaker B: We've hit up one, two. Looks like out of the nine races they've had, we've been at, like, six or seven of the three top tier series, whatever it is. Um, something about Nashville. It doesn't matter if you're in the parking lot in the middle of that racetrack, if you're walking around turns three and four to get to the tunnel. The asphalt is so hot there, you can feel the heat. You feel the heat from the sun coming down this way. The asphalt heat is coming up your leg. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:32] Speaker B: And it makes you. It makes you soaking wet with sweat. It is the hottest shit I've ever endured, and I hate it for everybody that has to work that weekend, in all three of those days, security guards standing out there and all of that. I feel for you. [00:59:49] Speaker A: I can't, like. But I won't be the end. Yeah, dude, I can't speak for the inside of the track because you've gone down there with pit passes. I haven't. [00:59:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Just as hot and brutal and as rain. We were down there, and they evacuated everybody twice. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So that was a shit show in and of itself. [01:00:07] Speaker B: And that's. That's the year I told my dad, I was like, dude, are you ready to go? He's like, I thought you'd never ask. We left the track, went to Senko, drank margaritas, and watched the end of the race on the tv. [01:00:17] Speaker A: Yeah, God. But, yeah. As a fan going, not as an industry person, not as somebody with pit passes, just a regular ticket buying, gonna sit in the top of the grandstands. Fan. I hate to say it, but there's just not a lot of appeal about the Nashville race simply because even the stuff they set up outside is unshaded. It's all outdoor stuff. There's not a whole lot of great spots to, like, sit down and take a break. Pretty much the only chance you get to sit down at the Nashville race is once you find your way to your seat. [01:00:51] Speaker B: Yeah, there's the only way. Same way on the inside. You know, we're talking about, like, Talladega with that kind of stuff there and these other racetracks with places you can go and do and see. Nashville has this thing set up. Only thing that I remember they have is this tent that's like a bar that Tootsie sponsors. Naturally, everybody and their brother is inside this tent, so you can't even get in there or get a spot to sit or anything because it's so hot. Everybody's under this tent, and then the other tent they have, they got, like some cornhole games going on, and they got a band up there playing the shittiest cover songs you've ever heard in your life on a stage that is not big enough. Like, the bass player and the keyboard player could not fit on the stage. They were on the grass in Nashville, Tennessee. [01:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that just tells you everything you need to know. Yeah. I don't want people to think that going to the Nashville race isn't worth it for the racing itself. It's honestly a lot of fun to go there and watch the race. It's kind of like a mile and a half, but you can see everything, even from the lower side of the stand actually watching a race. They're not bad. Being there for a race in late June in aluminum spills, in aluminum stands, in the heat like the sun does not go down behind the stands until about 637 o'clock. And by that point, the race is almost over. So you just have to bake in the sun. Now, if this race started at six like it did last year, it's still kind of miserable for the first stage and a half, but at least calms down after a while and it gets a little bit more bearable. But with the 230 start time, I just can't justify showing up and risking having a heat stroke because that's all you're doing, is just risking a damn heat stroke to go there. And I would not be surprised if this is the first ally 400 that doesn't sell out, because I think people are starting to get to the point where I. We are, and I know we're not the only ones where it's just like, I can't do this, man. I cannot. I just don't. I don't want to. I do not want to. [01:02:48] Speaker B: I've talked to other people in the music industry that I've written with. Everybody's like, dude, you've been in the Nashville track. That's, like, always the conversation. You know, when you talk about NASCAR in Nashville and multiple, there's tons of people that have been, and a lot of those people have the same opinions we do. Like, it is just too hot. Like, it's just not worth it. [01:03:10] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, it just is what it is. [01:03:14] Speaker B: I mean, just be safe and drink water. You can't bring your own water. You got to pay. [01:03:19] Speaker A: Bring up. So bring a goddang hat and wear it forwards. Or bring a cowboy hat or something that shades you. I mean, just. There's nothing to shade you on that entire course, the moment you leave your canopy in the parking lot, bring a damn hat. [01:03:34] Speaker B: I gotta say this, and I got it. I gotta say it, because we had, I had the conversation with Allison last year. Cause Allison had never been in the pits and all that until last year at the, uh, Vega. No, she. We went to the pits in Nashville, too. Allison went to pits in Nashville because her. [01:03:54] Speaker A: We go down to the. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Her pass better than ours because Brandon got her the hot. The. The pass with the. [01:03:59] Speaker A: Nevermind. I have been down in the pits there. Wow. So just done too many things. [01:04:04] Speaker B: I had to tell Allison because she had never been down there. You go to, you go to a NASCAR race. Anywhere else in the United States where there's a NASCAR race, people are dressed for comfort. There's shorts, tennis shoes. If it's in the. If it's in the. If it's in a cold time, people wearing, like, joggers, a sweatshirt with your favorite driver, you know, stuff like that. Like, that's, like, definitely the going vibe because you're. That you're standing up, and if, even if it's not the hottest thing in the world, you're still standing up. You're on your feet, you know, got your tennis shoes, your comfort, your, your clothes. You're going to be most comfortable in you know, when, and especially when it's hot as hell. I told Allison because I had seen it the year prior, you know, back. You're. You saying cowboy hats? What, what made me bring this up? But I told Alison, I was like, when you go back here, this is the only place in the NASCAR cities where you're gonna see people back here that are, like, artists or think they are artists, and they are gonna be dressed in a collared shirt, jeans, boots, a cowboy hat. Someone be wearing a long sleeve shirt. Like, it is the most cringe worthy thing you've ever seen. And I've made tweets about this, about how Nashville, all these artists, we're all artists. We all hang out with artists, all the things. But, like, it's okay. It's like the people in Key west still wear skinny jeans and their black shirts. It's like, yeah. [01:05:26] Speaker A: It's like, what are they doing, man? [01:05:28] Speaker B: To wear your shorts and your tennis shoes? [01:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah. To impress in this event full of people. It is. Don't, can't do anything for you in music. And two, if they can, they probably don't look like you right now. [01:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, man. It is my favorite. It is. It is top tier entertainment to see that at NASA. [01:05:49] Speaker A: Porsche owns a car. [01:05:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:51] Speaker A: She go try to find out which one is. [01:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:05:54] Speaker A: Start walking around the Cup Series garage asking where Scott Borchetta's car is. Yeah. Probably down on music row. [01:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:01] Speaker A: You, you're what? You're a day late in the dollar sort, man. He was here yesterday. [01:06:04] Speaker B: Exactly. That's, that's one of my favorite things about, about it like that. It's just like if you took, like, the guys on Broadway and put them on pit road, they're still wearing the same clothes. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah. It's okay to be a rookie at a NASCAR race, but don't wear your yellow bumper stickers. Yeah, but that's so funny. Speaking towards the actual race, though, what are your predictions? Who do you think is going to do? Well, I already know Kyle Larson's going to do great. He always does great at this race track, period. [01:06:34] Speaker B: The thing is going to be the. [01:06:35] Speaker A: One to beat him. And, chastain, I feel like you're always your two favorites in Nashville when you get. [01:06:40] Speaker B: Well, we've had three races, and he's had three different winners at all, every one of them last year. What I remember the most about last year is Tyler Reddick. He had some tire fell off or something. Reddick dominated that race. Tire falls off and then that lets Chastain become, take over the lead and become the winner. So I, I would, I would say you gotta probably look at Reddick, too, in this race, just based off last year. Now, the first year they came, the first year they came in 21, which that was with the other car. So it's not even the same now. Kyle Larson led, like, every lap but the pit stops. The second year, it rained twice. There was two rain delays. Chase Elliott ends up with the win. There was so much going on. I really don't even remember much about that race other than it being so hot and muggy and wet that we left and went and drank margaritas and Chase Elliott one. And then last year, I remember Reddit kicking ass, having the pit road problem, and Chastain winning. So if you took Chastain, Larson, Reddick, for some reason, because it's a concrete track and it's only a little bit over a mile, I think you throw in those Fords as well. [01:08:01] Speaker A: I could totally, definitely see that this year. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I could totally see Blainey's and Loganos and, and Keselowski Busher. Just these concrete tracks that are about a mile long or shorter. The Fords are just fast as hell. [01:08:18] Speaker A: So, yeah, I completely agree with that. [01:08:23] Speaker B: They talk. You talk about, like, you got a short track that races like an intermediate. Kind of like they said it, iowa kind of was. This is not a short track by any means, but it's like use. It's like a short track that. It's not a short. It's not a short track, but it kind of feels like a short track. A mile long track that races like an intermediate. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I could see Blaney going out and just dominating, honestly as well. [01:08:54] Speaker A: And Blaney usually does fairly okay at Nashville. He just never finishes the race at Nashville. Yeah. Wild stat. There was not a single Ford driver in the top ten of last year's Nashville race. [01:09:05] Speaker B: I don't think that'll be the case this year. I think that'll be different. [01:09:08] Speaker A: And you know who the best forward in the field was at 11th place? Brad Keselowski. [01:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I. Yeah, I think we'll. I think Fords are going to be all right this weekend. [01:09:18] Speaker A: And the third best Ford driver was Chris Buscher. Yeah, so this might be an RFK kind of weekend right there for all the fords. [01:09:25] Speaker B: They were start and hit the wallhead on right in front of us. Remember that uh. [01:09:29] Speaker A: He lost brakes and hit the wall head on right in front of us. [01:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah. What one year was that? [01:09:35] Speaker A: Are you talking last year? If you're talking last year, I don't remember exactly what happened there. I just remember him not finishing the. [01:09:40] Speaker B: Restart and hit the wall head on and up until he hit it. Daytona. It was like g forces wise, one of the hardest hits he'd ever taken. [01:09:47] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Cuz he took the spin down to the inside wall and hit the inside wall. [01:09:50] Speaker B: Yep. [01:09:51] Speaker A: At the exit of pit road. [01:09:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he lost breaks in like a qualifying or something and hit the wall or something like that. [01:09:58] Speaker A: No, I was thinking of the race. The first one we went to in Nashville, whenever he was on a restart, took off and just lost brakes and just hit the inside, the outside wall and turned one and got taken out of the race. And it was like stage one. He was out of it. [01:10:14] Speaker B: Now maybe. [01:10:14] Speaker A: Well, I'm ready to go home. [01:10:16] Speaker B: Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Either way though, I think those four, any of those Ford guys will be fine. Reddick, Chastain, Larson. [01:10:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I read it. [01:10:26] Speaker B: Chastain, Larson and two fords. Pick your poison with which two you want to go with. [01:10:31] Speaker A: I completely agree. And if it's going to be two different, I would say the three that we've named. Brad Keselowski, Chris Buscher and Ryan Blaney, are your three to watch out for. [01:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:40] Speaker A: I don't see a single other four that's been consistent enough at the front to say I can confidently say yes. Go with them. Yeah, but we'll see, man. [01:10:50] Speaker B: So there we go. There's our picks. Nashville. [01:10:55] Speaker A: Brandy, look them up. Make sure you come in your garage. [01:10:59] Speaker B: But, uh, we've already talked about hack of the weeks. We covered it all. We covered a lot. [01:11:03] Speaker A: I think we did. Yeah, we didn't. It just. We kind of hop, skipped and jumped around here, but we. And we managed to make it happen. [01:11:10] Speaker B: So that's all that matters. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Well, good deal, y'all. We appreciate y'all listening and tuning in every week. We really, we really have fun making this, so it's glad to. We're glad to hear people having positive reactions here and there. And we love having people text us and ask us our opinions about stuff. So keep hitting us up, keep letting us know. And Dawson will keep hating these. Will keep hating these rain races because he wants the rut weather tires on too soon. [01:11:36] Speaker B: But indeed, either way. [01:11:42] Speaker A: But you can started ringing right there at the very end. [01:11:45] Speaker B: Hit us up on socials. Raise rowdy racing. Raise rowdy. Raise rowdy. Nikki T. Matt Burrell. I'm Dawson Edwards. Music under everything. [01:11:56] Speaker A: And I am Caleb Conrad. You can find me everywhere except for at the Nashville race this weekend. You will not find me there. I will let you know what I'm doing if you care to know. But other than that, y'all, thanks for listening. We appreciate y'all. Y'all have a good. [01:12:15] Speaker B: Day. And my truck ain't painted black it ain't got a big white number three turn it left around a track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can't handle dirt don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses, I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door checkers records my rapids hammered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl earn hard, fast.