S1: Episode 20: Fords are FAST... at Plate Tracks!

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is raise rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Morning, beautiful people. [00:00:19] Speaker A: It was a good day. [00:00:19] Speaker B: Caleb Conrady, how you doing, boss? [00:00:21] Speaker A: I'm doing phenomenal. How are you doing? [00:00:25] Speaker B: I'm also doing phenomenal. [00:00:27] Speaker A: Heck yeah. This is probably one of the best NASCAR related weekends we've ever had, period, whatsoever. All the way around. A ton of stuff happened this weekend, all of which needs to be discussed top to bottom. Like we said last week on the podcast, we were going to go to Talladega and boy did we go to Talladega and just make some great memories. [00:00:58] Speaker B: All the way we did, man, it was a talladega man. It really is just like the greatest place ever. Just the atmosphere. There's nothing like like it were. We were talking to Lindsay and know before we left. And it's like, we're talking about leaving early. And it's like the amount of people that you saw like, we went to Nashville, went to Atlanta, I was like, the amount of people you saw there, it's going to be about four times that many people in, like, just the atmosphere, the traffic. I hate traffic. But I've said on here before, traffic's a good thing. That means know showing. [00:01:33] Speaker A: So yeah, traffic is only a good thing whenever you're having to deal with it for good reasons. And that was a great reason to have to deal with it. [00:01:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And we ended up not even being terrible traffic. I don't know about you all leaving. We were in some dead stop traffic at perfect points. [00:01:48] Speaker A: One thing to never do is leave a sporting event and trust that Waze is not going to just screw you. Because I use ways for everything getting around and 90% of the time it works. But when it comes to a sporting event where they have like random road closures go down, it's pretty much at the point of just follow the crowd even though the traffic is worse there because ways let us down this random road and other people kind of going with us. I think we were all using the same thing. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:17] Speaker A: And it takes us down that road. And it wanted us to make a right turn to get onto the interstate where you all got onto it, but going the other direction because we saw you drive past in front of us to go to 20 and we were on one of those side roads trying to get over, and it ended up costing us like ten minutes just trying because we took the right, but you had to be all the way over to the left. Across four lanes of a bunch of people all doing the same thing you're. [00:02:45] Speaker B: Doing, and they had everything you are all the way over there on the opposite, technically. [00:02:50] Speaker A: So we ended up having to go to this other small town and then take a state highway down like 4 miles, which was also covered up and it was just ridiculous. But yeah, I mean, that's part of it. So never trust ways. Just follow the damn crowd and follow the signs they have set up. I promise you, you'll be better off. [00:03:08] Speaker B: That's what we because it even told us. I mean, obviously I put it in the GPS and it's know, go this way, go this way. But the roads are closed and they open. Uh, there's so many people at Talladega, they actually shut down the roads and open up all lanes to go certain directions. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a four lane, six lane road, but there's supposed to be three going one way, three going the other, and all of a sudden you get out there and everybody for all six lanes going straight. It's the weirdest feeling to drive on that side of the yellow line. [00:03:39] Speaker B: Did you notice this? Cracked me the hell up. And the big sign says, use all lanes, including both shoulders. So they wanted people on the shoulders on both sides, too, trying to get everybody out of there. Excuse me. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah, we saw some people taking the shoulder, and other guys were jumping out in front of them to block them so that they wouldn't go. And that was cracking me up because it was like, which sign do use the just, you know, a bunch of idiots who want to self police. [00:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Stupid man. That's just leaving the so I guess you should probably share your big news to understand why we did this, but me and Allison drove down the day before to go to Y'all's place. We finally got to see your new house, which is awesome, by the way. Absolutely loved it. [00:04:31] Speaker B: Thank you. As you know, we're big fans of the So. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, sitting on the front porch was great. [00:04:37] Speaker B: That's what we do, pretty much. [00:04:41] Speaker A: And I'm jealous of that. We do it on the back porch as much as we can. But, yeah, me and Allison, we drove down there on Saturday. We had to board Stella, so we just got her back this morning and drove all the way down there and then ended up leaving the track and driving all the way back home. But we specifically made this trip and did everything because of what you did at the track. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:03] Speaker A: So I'll let you tell that story. That's your announcement. [00:05:06] Speaker B: So since this is our podcast, I'm just going to tell the whole story, including before, during, and after. Yeah, it might take a couple of minutes, but I just want to tell the whole story because I know a lot of people that we care about listening to this. And honestly, there were some good, funny little details that happened throughout the weekend. Yes. About, I'd say over a month ago, I talked to Caleb about caleb's the only person in the whole entire universe at the time. And when it all even was said and done, not a soul knew about this except Caleb, Allison and Brandon, our buddy from RFK that gets us the hot passes and all that. Shout out to Brandon. I was like, I knew Talladega was coming up. And when me and Lindsay kind of reconnected two years ago, I was in Talladega when she Snapchatted me or whatever. I said that yesterday. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:06:08] Speaker B: So like I said, about a month or more or so ago, we're in the middle of a show and I just look over to Caleb and I was like, dude, I think I'm going to try to get tickets to Talladega and get this ring and propose to Lindsay at Talladega. And we were like, okay, cool. That's know, that was kind of all that was said then. And so I start the process of a month or six, eight weeks ago, whatever, to try to start getting the ring and getting tickets and passes to Talladega and I've talked to you and whatever. So we're trying to get all this happening. All that finally happens. We get the passes for Talladega the week of the race. So I'm like, okay, got that. Well, the ring situation, we went on that run. The ring was done, not done. I don't know. I was like, it was the day we left. I was like, can't come today. I was like, I get back on the 25th. So I call on the 25th. The lady is like deathly sick. That's like doing the ring. She's sick, hasn't been in the office, whatever. She's like, I'm not going to get the ring till like Sunday or Monday. And I'm like, I have friends of ours from Nashville coming to Talladega. I was like, I have these tickets and passes to go to Talladega. [00:07:23] Speaker A: I was like, we've put a ton of effort and planning into yeah, yeah. [00:07:27] Speaker B: I was like, I need that ring. Any way possible you can get me that ring. I need it bad. And she was like, I can make this happen. And that was on, I think, Tuesday or Wednesday of this week. Okay. [00:07:43] Speaker A: We were calling and talking about that. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, all these days go by, we get to still I don't have the ring on Saturday. And Caleb was nice enough. He was like, dude, if you need me to, I'll stop by the ring place on our way into town. [00:07:59] Speaker A: It wouldn't have been too far out of the way. [00:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah, not too far away. So I was like, perfect. I was like, we can make that happen. No issue. The ring is still not ready. So Caleb and Allison are texting me, like getting updates, whatever. I freak out on Allison because I thought she'd accidentally texted Lindsay. I felt so bad, but I was like freaking out. [00:08:21] Speaker A: Please unsend that message. Oh, my God. [00:08:24] Speaker B: I was like, oh, my God. I'm about to pass away from this because this is this deep into this and we're trying not to screw this up. So anyway, we all get together. Caleb and Allison come town, we hang out, we go and we watch the end of some football games and then we go eat Mexican. The lady with the ring, her name is Heather. Shout out Heather for helping us out with this. She is giving me updates. She comes and she's like, I will do anything. She's like, I will drop this ring off at your house if you need me to. So she's not back into town while we're at Mexican. So we leave Mexican, come back and go get the dog, Rams. Because Rams is going to stay with Lindsay'sister while we go to Talladega. And we're gone all day. And like I said, nobody knows about this at all. While we're at her sister's house, the ring lady drops the ring off in my mailbox. Which is like clutch moment. Lindsay has no idea we had already. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Talked about the mail. Away with that. [00:09:26] Speaker B: I know we already talked about the mail. So we got home. I'm going to go check the mail real quick. Went down and checked the mail. Got the ring. It was in there. Put it in my truck. So me, Lindsay and Caleb sat out on our porch and talked for I haven't seen the ring yet. We talked to about midnight. Lindsay goes in to get a shower and go to bed. Well, me and Caleb sit out on the porch and drink some beers. I go to the truck and I. [00:09:49] Speaker A: Don'T see the ring. [00:09:50] Speaker B: I took a picture of it at twelve seven the night before. So I don't even have the final main piece of this project done until technically October 1, the day of at twelve seven. So anyway, we get up, we go to Talladega. I had already told Caleb, I was like, I want to do it on the start, finish line, whatever. So we get there, we got a. [00:10:11] Speaker A: Walk, full plan where you're going to keep it and this and that. We were going over every detail. [00:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Caleb told me the box that it came in was way too big to put in my pocket. Like it's obviously would look like something. And so Caleb's like, dude, just put it in your shirt pocket. I was like, that's perfect idea. I put it in the shirt pocket. No issue. Totally fine. We get to Daga, we buy some stuff. Naturally, we got to walk all the way to the credential trailer, get our credentials. We walk back, we get in. And then this is the funny part, where we were like Lindsay is like, oh my God, I want some chicken fingers. Want some chicken fingers? And originally all three of us, like me, Caleb and Allison are like, no, like, we're not hungry. Let's just go do this. Whatever. Trying to work our way to the finish line. Because nothing is close. [00:10:59] Speaker A: Mile and a half away, if you're not headed to the thing with an hour and a half to spare. You might not make it there. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Trying to. That's what I've told everybody. I was like, nothing's close at talladega. Not a thing. So we go get in line and shout out to talladega. The concession stand prices were incredible. Nothing was over $4, which was great. [00:11:20] Speaker A: I'm talking about hamburgers, about that, fries. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Chicken fingers, beer, even. [00:11:25] Speaker A: You get a tall boy beer for $4. [00:11:27] Speaker B: $4. Yeah. So shout out. That is awesome. That is incredible. Anyway, Caleb made the joke. He's like, I love how this started with Lindsay wanting to eat and then we all sit down and get a hamburger and some chicken fingers, whatever. So then we leave that to go make our way to the start finish line. You don't realize how banked a racetrack is until you're thinking about how you're going to get down on one knee. And originally when we first sat down, we were doing it the opposite way where I was going to be facing downwards and I was like, I will fall down. I can't do this. So I need to turn around. So I get Lindsay, no, let's turn around this way. Lindsay goes, oh, my god. It's not that important. I was like, yes, it is. And then turn around, boom. I kneel down and do it. Okay, this is where the story gets even better. I kneel down. She says yes. Everybody's around. They're hooting and hollering. That was pretty cool. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Every picture is a fan in the background either crying or cheering on. It was like 25 people around all started screaming, hollering and clapping for them. [00:12:30] Speaker B: And people like a couple of people came up and said like, congratulations, stuff like that. It was cool. Okay, let me preface this again with not a single person, not my family, not Lindsay's family, no one in the world knows about this except Caleb, Allison, Brandon, and then now Lindsay because it happened her, obviously. So no one knows about this. And I'm like I told Lindsay. I was like, let's wait. I was let's there's no service at talladega. Better service than normal. I'll give them that, too. The guest wi fi worked but still not like great. And I told Lindsay I was let's. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Let's get through the day. [00:13:05] Speaker B: I was like, on our way home. That's the perfect time to call everybody, tell them like hoot and know all you know. I'm like, this is a great plan. We are on the RFK's WiFi. We're sitting on the six pit box. The six wrecks. We are standing off the sixes pit box by about 20 or 30ft, I'd say, just outside of WiFi range and I get a notification on my cell phone. It says all I can see now is the comment that says, is this you at dawson Edwards? If so, congratulations. I was like, no way. And I just felt like immediate pissed off. Like, you got to be kidding me. That this is the way this is going down. So I'm trying to upload it, and I'm showing all y'all my phone. It's just nothing's. I can't get Facebook to come up. Nothing. Can't get the quote to come up. Nothing. I'm like, oh, my God. So finally I get it. Someone had posted the picture of me and Lindsay getting engaged and doing the thing on the start finish line on a Talladego Campsite page. And it's already got a few hundred likes, like 80 comments, all these shares. And I'm like, oh, my God. And so then people are seeing it and knowing who I am. There's multiple people tagging me in at this point. I'm like, oh, my God. You got to be shitting me. This is how this is working out. So during the race, so our parents and family with, like, 20 to go. Yeah. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Don't Facebook. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a red flag. So it was a good time to talk on the phone. I'm so surprised I even had service. I have to call like, she's trying to call her sister and her mom and dad and everybody. I'm trying to call my sister, my mom and dad and everybody. And it was just like, kind of like, damn it. We wanted to tell them in a much more relaxed, not hollering at you on a racetrack way. But looking back at it, it's, like, kind of funny that we were on this Talladega Campsite website thing. It's like, that's pretty funny. [00:15:20] Speaker A: It's hilarious that that happened. [00:15:21] Speaker B: Yeah. All in all, I get it. Yeah, it's totally fine now. But all in all, it was great. It worked out. She said yes. We told our families all that. So it ended up working out fine. But just all the little things that happened to get us to that point seemed like it was never going to happen. I was like, oh, my God. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it was really cool. I was glad we could finally make that happen for you, because I know it was a lot of figuring out and planning and stress and anxiety. I know the feeling very well. [00:15:56] Speaker B: You're just fresh off of it. [00:15:58] Speaker A: Honestly, I just was thinking about it since we've started this podcast. We've both gotten engaged. We both got to go to two different races. You've gotten to go to three, and we both ended up with dogs in our house after you bought a house. It's just crazy. All the stuff that's happened since we have started this podcast, and it's only been, like, six months of it. It's awesome to see it. [00:16:22] Speaker B: Yeah. 2020 personal growth year full of yeah, just personal making adult moves and doing the just growing up, really kind of what it's been like. Been through some shit. It has grown up and came out on the other side of it, stuff like that. It's been a good year so far. [00:16:40] Speaker A: It is. It has been. And then, of course, getting to go to this race yesterday. I mean, all of it combined was a really cool experience. Not just for that alone, that was obviously the highlight of the whole day, but in the middle of all that, I've never sat on the pit box before. So thank you to Brandon for allowing us to get up there for the few minutes we had because I'd never gotten to do that before. And it was really cool to watch it from their perspective and see everybody kind of communicating and all the information that's coming in on the screens, them having that animated Ghost SIM card, see exactly where he was riding in the pack with everybody else, no matter where he was on the track. I mean, there was so many parts of that were really cool and actually getting to listen to the spotter on the radio, talk over as the race was going on, I mean, you could tell exactly what was going on from the back stretch just by listening to that spotter. Awesome communication going on there. Getting to see Blaney win in freaking person, that's something that you typically don't get going to dozens and dozens of races is getting to go to a race where your driver wins it. I consider myself lucky it happened on, what is this, my 6th, 7th? This is it was a great day. I enjoyed the hell out of it. And obviously even your highlight was awesome. And then the rest of it just turned out so perfectly. Was like I said at the beginning, this was one of the best personal NASCAR weekends we've ever had. And it's going to be fucking tough to top that. It's going to be real tough to top this Sunday. [00:18:14] Speaker B: I love that we talked, I mean, we literally talked about going to a track and getting to watch your favorite driver win last week before getting a chance to do this. Yeah, it's like if you go to enough football games, you're going to see your team win. You know what I mean? There's only two teams playing. You're going to see them win at some point and probably within a couple baseball. Same way racing, man, there's people I see it all the time on Twitter. It's like, dude, I've been going to races for 30 years and I've never seen the driver I'm cheering for win. It's just like the ODS of it happening are just not that high. So to get to see it, it's like pretty cool thing. And I understand, like, if you go to Daga, anybody has a chance to win, which is a cool reason to go to Daga, obviously. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:19:03] Speaker B: But yeah, it's just seeing your favorite driver win at a race is cool as hell. And I'll never forget, dude, me and you in 2019. Spencer Boyd is a budy of ours who drives in the truck series. 2019. Me, my dad and Caleb were sitting in the stands and we got to see him win at Talladega. And that was like being a buddy. Like knowing him personally, that was like. [00:19:29] Speaker A: A huge that was cool. [00:19:31] Speaker B: That was like a holy shit, that's Spencer. That is incredible. And I bought the wind diecast from that race. Just stuff like that. Super awesome. And getting to see it. And Caleb getting to see Blaney win, obviously. Blaney, he is definitely in the top one, two, three best plate drivers in the field. Right. Mean, he's doing great. He's got multiple wins at all the tracks. He doesn't win them by more than six inches, but he wins them. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, it's stressful. Whenever we we had a really cool experience watching the last few laps because y'all got your phone calls done. We'd been out in the sun all day long, so I know the girls were already feeling it. I was starting to feel it. Like I just need to get in the damn shade and sit somewhere that's not out in direct sunlight. So we went to the big Bill's garage, like the whole big indoor facility they have with giant big screens on both ends of it and tons of food. [00:20:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:20:46] Speaker A: That place is awesome. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Experience. I wish I could watch every race in that thing. Absolutely. Every track should have one. The TV is bigger than most houses. There's TVs all the way down the sides. Huge TVs on the front and back. There's four different little restaurants in there. Like each little stand has different like one has pizzas, one has barbecue, one's got like, chicken and hot dogs. Each one has different little setups. And then on the back, the back, the bar is the same length as the thing. So humongous bar and props. Again, mixed drinks are $5. $5. [00:21:26] Speaker A: That's for a mixed drink. It's incredible. [00:21:28] Speaker B: And you get a talladega the damn cup is a little talladega cup. You don't even come in a plastic, like, solo cup. They're in yellow cups with the yellowwood 500 and talladega and the date and all that. Props to them. I can't say enough how awesome the facility and the prices and how nice the garage and infield is at Talladega. Yeah. [00:21:57] Speaker A: If you get a chance to go to any infield, that'd be the one I'd want to go to. Because you've said it yourself, and I know from experience, it can be super miserable to get stuck in the infield during the middle of a race because some places just don't have anything for you. You're just there. And if you're lucky enough to know someone well enough that you can go up on a pit box, heck yeah. But I mean, you'll probably get kicked off because the sponsors and everybody want to be up there too. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah, the people. [00:22:22] Speaker A: So you're stuck, like just standing up in the sun baking. But luckily with this spot, we had somewhere to go. Yeah, you're sitting inside you're not necessarily by the track, but you still hear them fly by you every minute on the minute, and it's awesome to hear that. They've got everything set up with just neon lights and Led lights on the ceiling and the roof. So as the race is getting close to the end of a stage, they'll start building up the anticipation. The lights start flashing, smoke starts going off. They have this air horn, which was. [00:22:55] Speaker B: A little train horn. Oh, my God, they had a big train. [00:22:58] Speaker A: I mean, they'd blow it for just we were trying to figure out what was the reason they were blowing it, but they blew it with 17 to go in a stage, and they'd blow it with three to go in a stage, and then they'd blow it right before the stage end, but not after. It's like, I don't really know what you all are even doing here. Yeah, there's just loud as all goddang. Hell yeah. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Every time it happened, everybody just jumps up and was like, what the fuck was that? [00:23:19] Speaker A: Yeah, why is this happening? [00:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, so that was interesting, I think, what it was. So they got the big rig that carries the flag around. They had the awesome set up. The TV was, like, in that behind us. I think that was like the horn of the truck, but I don't know. I still don't know why it was. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Doing yeah, why was it honking? Normally air horns for when you're, like, team scores or something big happens in the game, and it's just, hey, they're on the back stretch. Fire it off. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:49] Speaker A: Going in there. So everybody was feeling tired and all. So we finally go in to this area, and I'm running around like a chicken with my head cut off, trying to find Allison a drink of water. They've already started shutting stuff down because we get there with about seven, eight to go, right at that last restart, we get to this spot, and I run all the way to the bar, asked them. I had to run all the way back outside. I finally found a couple bottles of water and managed to get back with about five to go. And I see Blainey's up front, and they're just battling it out, and he's in the second row, and I'm like, this could happen. And Allison was like, I kind of want to leave early, and this and that. I was like, no, blainey has a chance to win. I'm not leaving this racetrack until I see whether it happens or not, because the last time I was at Talladega, I had to leave after stage one because it got rained out, and Blaney ended up winning it. And I've never forgiven myself for not being there for it. [00:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:43] Speaker A: So this is like a big old redemption moment of finally get to go to Talladega in the whole last five laps. I'm freaking the hell out. Him and Harvick are fighting the whole way down the front stretch back and forth. And it was such a close finish that from where we were sitting that far back from the big screen, I could not physically tell who won the race. I thought it was Blaney. I was hoping it was blaney. But as much as I was excited, I was also confused. I was like, do I need to be cheering right now or do I need to be disappointed? Then they finally showed the running order and his pit crew just sitting down there celebrating in the replay. And I freaked the hell out. It was awesome. Then I will not forget that. And I immediately bought the diecast right there. So in about a year, I'll have the wind diecast. [00:25:30] Speaker B: But Caleb, we're working so often, he has to send his wind diecast to his parents house because Caleb has moved. He has ran into the dilemma of his diecast that he ordered the year previous, went to the wrong address, and the person had to contact him about it, which is hilarious that it's happened. It's hilarious. It's even more hilarious that it's happened more than once. [00:25:51] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So I'd start see how exactly, like you said, I'm starting to send them down to my mom and dad's house so they can forward them back to me whenever they finally arrive because I know they're not moving. I know I probably will be gone by the time it gets here anyway, so just better be safe than sorry. So, Mom, dad, look out for a package coming about June 2024. And I think I got the one from Charlote and I got the one from this track so far this year coming to them. So trying to get all the Blainey Wins. I think I'm short a pocono. And something else. I can't remember which the other one was. Yeah, but either way. [00:26:28] Speaker B: What a weekend, man. Great race. Great weekend. We got it in the notes here. Let me see. Yesterday was only the 7th race in NASCAR history to have 70 or more lead changes, and 24 of the 38 cars led a lap in the race. That is old school talladega plate racing from back in the gotten. They have figured out how to race these next gen cars at plate tracks. And Denny said it's because they're really figuring out how many cars it takes to get a run going, to get a line formed, how to stay, and and they're making that third line push. They're pushing, they're working. And I heard some guys talk about I've never thought about this, the way you push in different lanes. You don't push on the bottom the same way you do on the top. The bottom, they kind of stay. Now, I'm not talking about on the last lap. That's different. I'm talking about just completely racing the bottom. Those guys are kind of loose, just kind of staying there, whatever. But the higher you go. Up the track. If you're in that outside lane, you got to be locked on and pushing the hell out of each other to stay in line with the guys on the bottom. Obviously, you're going farther around the track, but I never thought about that. I thought that was a wild thing. They are pushing like hell on the outside with the guys on their inside are just loosely staying together, taking a little more easy, almost. [00:28:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Which I guess makes sense since you're making a tighter radius of a corner. Even as spread out as it is at Talladega and how long that corner is. I mean, it's still a little yeah, it's it's wild to think about pushing differently. I think you can see it a bit as you're watching the race go down, how it's a little different where they'll hit you, how hard they'll hit you on the outside. But, man, it is funny to think that it's that different, that it's noticeably different enough that you have to mention it. I'm with it. [00:28:40] Speaker B: I never thought about it. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Yeah, and it's just cool to see them doing what they're doing with this next gen car because it got so old watching them just ride in line, two lanes, nobody doing anything nowadays with what they were doing yesterday. It never, hardly ever was single file. And if it was, it was usually for some reason, and it didn't stay there seeing file. I just remember, like, maybe three or four laps at a time where it would be, and then suddenly somebody'd figure it out and start another lane and they'd get it rocking again. And I loved it. And then it was three wide for a lot of the times. And then right before the six wrecked, it was like four wide. I mean, I was listening to the spotter yell, you got two inside, one outside, two inside, one outside, two inside, one outside for two, three laps in a row before everything finally broke loose. But, man, what a time, what a race to watch. And the fact that there was that many lead changes, it blows my mind as well, because you expect that at a restrictor plate race. You did not expect that at a next gen restrictor plate race. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. If I remember correctly, the Daytona 500 people were still not huge on this drafting package with the next gen. The first time they went to Atlanta this year, it was a lot of too wide. Kind of couldn't do much the way it was. But by the time Talladega, Daytona, and Atlanta all came back around again, dude, it has been lots out at these drafting tracks. It has been. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:17] Speaker B: I mean, Per Dell Jr. Says the hottest ticket in NASCAR is Atlanta Motor Speedway. That ain't been a thing since 1999. It's crazy. It's crazy. Give anybody time and you'll figure it out. Totally. And us as fans, we're totally the first to jump the gun. Only because the last package we just had in the Gen Six car I've said it on this podcast before, was the greatest drafting package of all time in NASCAR history. [00:30:43] Speaker A: So to go from it was wild. [00:30:47] Speaker B: Exactly. So to go from that to that dullness that we had there for a year and a half, that was why people were quick to judge. But now it's like they figured it out, and honestly, it's semi organized chaos more than it was with that other car the other car had, which made it fun, but the big those Humongous runs, it was fast, it was crazy. Just doing all that crazy stuff. It's still just as crazy, but a little more organized to me. Which makes for the good racing. Yeah, it is. [00:31:19] Speaker A: And it doesn't feel like you're constantly expecting a wreck to happen. And you kind of think to yourself that most of these wrecks, I mean, if they do happen, they're going to take out most of the field. And the last thing I want to see at a super speedway is an early wreck that clears out 15 to 20 cars and ruins the rest of the race. [00:31:41] Speaker B: It's happened a million times. [00:31:43] Speaker A: Yeah, and it sucks when that happens, which, you know what, it's going to eventually. You can't really complain about it when it does, but you can make the car a little bit easier to handle so that way it doesn't happen consistently. And that's what I think we've got right now, is a car that you're not necessarily expecting every move to be a wreck anymore. But you do know that those kind of wrecks are still going to be possible, but you're probably going to see them later on in the event when the anticipation and the intensity is ramped up. So I like that a lot, that the runs aren't so stupid and so long and so fast that you constantly feel like there's a chance that everything's going to get ruined for your driver. [00:32:22] Speaker B: Yes, wrecks are going to happen no matter what. When you go to these places, it's not if, it's definitely when, but just to see it like we were saying, just to see it kind of controlled and them doing a great job at it, I'm all for I enjoy it. I've really enjoyed a lot of these plate races here at the end of the year, last back half of the year, I'm already excited for the Daytona 500. I mean, let's be honest. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Me too. [00:32:47] Speaker B: I'm already ready. [00:32:48] Speaker A: God, Dang can't wait to see Hamlin win another one. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:52] Speaker A: Actually, there's a solid chance Blaney could come out here and finally get him a 500. I think Blaney for a 500 is definitely a solid bet to take within the next ten years. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, for sure. I was also going to say, along with us two guys agreeing about this race, being great. It's 87% yes. On Jeff Gluck's poll, which it's probably going to hover around there. We'll be very close to being part of the 90% Club, which I think Talladega has probably got some of the most in the 90% Club. Like daytona, Talladega, daytona, martinsville. Bristol. I think they have a lot of the top races, but as a whole, looks like everybody in NASCAR. All the fans are agreeing that, yes, yesterday was a success. Great plate race. Brian is a popular guy. A lot of twelve shirts out there. So overall, just a big check mark for Talladega to end their season in the Talladega season there. [00:34:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, something that we forgot to even mention about that big bill's garage place is you could tell how much fun the fans were having watching the race because as the lead changes would happen, you'd hear all the little pockets of fans. So like Chase would take the lead, the whole place goes wild. You see Harvick take the lead, there's a pockets of people over here, here, here, here. Blaney gets back to the lead. Me and a bunch of buddies we have from Murfreesboro, Sterling and Kyle, they were all there. And all their buddies that they brought along, they were over there cheering, too, every time Blainey would take the lead, and then it was so fun to watch that. And then finally, when the race comes down to the end, the whole last lap, everybody in the garage is just cheering, just going crazy, and it just makes everything ramp up that much more so. Man, it's not surprising to see that this could be a 90 percenter on that poll because this was a good race. I would be interested to know why anyone would vote no, unless they're just those type of people that just say, I hate super speedway racing, doesn't take any talent because I'm a Kyle Bush fan. [00:35:09] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:35:09] Speaker A: I don't know what to expect from yeah, and if you're that person, you're. [00:35:14] Speaker B: Just a sad, depressed little fella. [00:35:18] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:35:20] Speaker B: I wanted to talk about this, and it's happened at the last two plate tracks at Daytona and Talladega. Denny Hamlin spends over half the race a lap down because of him speeding. I can't remember if speeding was the issue at Daytona or not, it might have been a pit crew thing, but either way, over half the race a lap down because he got passed by the two car on one caution and the 42 on one caution. He had to wait to that last caution to be in front and ends up finishing fourth. So the plate man himself figured it. [00:35:59] Speaker A: But yeah, and ends up getting third. After all. [00:36:02] Speaker B: Said and not he wasn't fourth. Oh, because harvick. Sorry, I forgot. [00:36:07] Speaker A: Which we'll get to Harvick here in a minute. [00:36:09] Speaker B: Yeah. So I had still had fourth down in my the he was so frustrated. I don't know, obviously with himself with whatever. But he was like, it is the most he was like I was like, I'm just gritting my teeth driving around. He's like, all you're doing is praying for a caution. He's like, it's the worst thing in the world when you're a lap down at Daytona or Talladega. Yeah. [00:36:35] Speaker A: Because there's nothing you're going to be able to do. There's no pit strategy. There's no staying out. There's nothing you can do to undo that but be in front of every other car lap is which is just as difficult, too, because you've got to make these moves with the rest of the field who's all lap up and fight through it. Man, that would be such a long day. And that's the problem. You can't self inflict these injuries on yourself. And it's a good thing that he ended up pulling through with that third place finish because now I think he's pretty much a lock for the next round. But just think of what would have happened if he had finished that lap down, finished in 30th, ended up only being about 20 points to the good one. Bad thing happens at the Charlote roble and Denny Hamlin is out. And so he needed it. He needed that bad. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, good for him. For he's sitting at plus 50 right now. So he's in good shape. [00:37:26] Speaker A: Great shape. I mean, just get to the end of the race and you'll be fine. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:34] Speaker A: What a long day. [00:37:36] Speaker B: Yeah, he was just upset about that, which I totally understand. But Danny Speeds on pit road, man, he just did it at mean, he does it all the time. It happens more races than it doesn't. It feels like for real. [00:37:51] Speaker A: I mean, as a Blaney fan, I'm always nervous when the cars go down pit road because we always lose spots down there. But at least my driver doesn't speed every other time that they take a. [00:38:02] Speaker B: It is I don't know. I don't get it. But he is a pit road speeder. [00:38:07] Speaker A: Yeah, he really is. There was only a few incidents, too, with pit road. I mean, you had Eric Jones get his penalty and you had Denny get his and there was one more that I just cannot remember off the top. [00:38:19] Speaker B: There's a huge ass fire that was removing equipment. [00:38:22] Speaker A: Yeah, ty huge. [00:38:23] Speaker B: That was it. [00:38:23] Speaker A: Removing equipment. That was wild. Crazy event. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yeah, we can see the smoke from that. I saw some pictures. I mean, don't get me wrong, I know the fire was big, but there's some pictures on Twitter that some photographers took down on pit road there. I was like, that was a big fire. That whole can. And I want to say those cans, they have to buy new ones at the beginning of the year. They can be used until they're like, too wore out or whatever. [00:38:57] Speaker A: Or set on fire. [00:38:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we're set on fire. [00:38:59] Speaker A: But those cans aren't cheap. [00:39:01] Speaker B: By no means. He got that thing ripped out and it looked like to me the little hose where it comes down and what the catch can used to do. It looked like that thing had come apart and that's where the gas spewed everywhere. And then obviously it that's a, that's. [00:39:20] Speaker A: A second for sure. [00:39:23] Speaker B: Yeah. In the last couple weeks there with Busher catching on fire not too long ago and then that it's always a possibility. This weekend proves again that we get so complacent with it. Pit road is a dangerous place. And that man, that was Pitting for Zane Smith. He also is a colleague he works for. And uh, I mean, just took a right rear straight to the chest in a spoolie to the face on Saturday and just hops right up. Keeps on rolling. I don't know how they do it. I don't know. We have friends that work on pit road. Props to them. I don't know how they do it. Props to them. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah. You got to just be tough as nails to do that job. You already got to be a tough dude just to do the job in general. But then to take the hits you're going to take and the stress it puts on your body for that just 12 seconds of work, I can't even imagine that'd just be exhausting all the way around. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Pit road. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Man, what a place. Talking about some stuff that happened during the middle of the race for a playoff driver. Specifically, we have Ricky Stenhouse leading the line coming to the end of stage one and ends up running out of gas right in front of Kyle Bush. We think he's throwing bad blocks. Obviously we're not hearing the broadcast. We can't tell what's going on. We just can see what we can see. Next thing you know, you got Kyle Busch coming up, hitting him in the tail, getting into the wall a little bit. Stenhouse somehow never managed to have anything happen to him. He never slapped the wall at all. Gets out of it totally fine. But Kyle Busch ends up hitting him, hitting the wall a little bit. And then Chastain comes in and Chastain's just an innocent bystander with a mean I was telling it to you. They're going into turn three. They're a mile away from the spotters in a spot that's going to be hard to spot anyway because they're flat to you. So he just kind of had to do what he could on his own and ends up getting taken out of the race before stage one is even complete. Scores one point on the day and falls all the way to minus ten. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Minus started the race plus like 20 or something. Plus something good and ends minus ten. If you reckon the first stage in the playoffs, dude, you are screwing yourself. And I mean, obviously innocent bystander, he can't do anything about that. But you're screwed. You score one point and you're screwed. And it just is what it and. [00:42:15] Speaker A: That was what I was wondering, is, like, what happened there, because also you had Chase Briscoe going down to get more fuel. I want to go back and re listen to the broadcast right there and just see were they saying that the first pit stop that the Fords took was a really aggressive strategy to try to try to get to the end of the stage and pip first and kind of undercut everybody? I don't know. But they were just as impressive. I don't know. Cars run out of gas. [00:42:42] Speaker B: I don't know what happened to Stenhouse. It's weird, though, with Briscoe being in a Ford. They were talking about the Ford's getting the best gas mileage. I went back and watched the broadcast last night, by the way. Yeah, most of it. I skipped the middle part to get to the end, but I watched the whole first stage and almost all the last stage. But they talk about at one point how the Fords are getting the best gas mileage of anybody, and they can go a little farther, do a little this, and then I have no idea. It sounded like some frustration coming from Stenthouse across the radio. He was like, he ran me out of gas. And that's kind of how he said it. That's all he said. That's kind of how he said it. And he was, like, confused, too. I don't know. They all pitted together. Like, all the Fords, all the Chevys, all the Toyotas. They all pitted together. I didn't see any other Chevrolets run out of gas. I mean, you're looking at the that's two Chevys right behind the 47. [00:43:47] Speaker A: I'll give it to him. He led all those laps. So, you know, he's full throttle the whole time. He doesn't have a chance to let off. He's going to be the person most prone to running out of gas. It's just as surprising to see it. [00:44:02] Speaker B: But they also talk about you saying that in the front of the pack, which is super common. Obviously, if you're in the front, you're getting pushed. You're in the gas all the way. I can't remember at what point in the race, but it was whenever Priest was leading. But they had priest. They did his telemetry for a few laps. He was in the very front, and he was only running about 70% throttle. And Steve Latarte brings up kind of like what we're talking about, how wild that is, to be able to lead a line and go as fast as he was going, but only be at 70% throttle, not be at full throttle. [00:44:33] Speaker A: That is crazy. [00:44:34] Speaker B: And he was kind of talking about that was probably when the Ford gas mileage situation was, like, getting talked about, was during that little segment. [00:44:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Hmm. Well, interesting. Good things to know. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it was interesting. [00:44:49] Speaker A: I really wanted to go back and rewatch this broadcast. I love going back and watching the broadcast for races I was at, because then you get so much more insight and you get to learn about it. But obviously with a three and a half hour drive home and a stop at Cracker Barrel last night on the way there, we didn't get back to like midnight. We were exhausted, tired as hell. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that sucks. Me and Lindsay, we got home, picked up Rams, came home and watched some of the race. I drank a couple beers, we cooked a pizza. It was a good time. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Nice. [00:45:18] Speaker B: I wanted to bring up just because we talked my exact quote last week about Kyle Larson, best race, best plate race of his career. He did. Ended up going across the finish line backwards. [00:45:30] Speaker A: But, dude, he can't finish races without incident at these tracks and I hate it. Wasn't even his fault. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Wasn't his fault. He was just no, not his fault. [00:45:40] Speaker A: He would have finished in the top ten if it didn't happen too, I feel like. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought he still was in the top ten. [00:45:44] Speaker A: That's what sucks. [00:45:45] Speaker B: But either way, 16th, he scored stage points in both stages and was in the top ten, 100 yards away from the start finish line. If I'm Kyle Larson, I am taking that and saying, hey, we came out and he went in plus two and it's coming out plus 15. So he gained spots, gained positions. My biggest concern for him is he just needs to stay clean at the roval. Just stay clean and literally run 15th and he'll be just fine. He has to make sure that Reddick doesn't because I think Reddick is going to win this race personally, so he's behind him. But if the five can just have a clean day and not get outran by the six and the 45, we'll make it to the next round. [00:46:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Makes me excited. He's a good road course racer, he's just not good at the roval. [00:46:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the roval is a tough track, no doubt about it. [00:46:49] Speaker B: It is. [00:46:51] Speaker A: It's going to be so hard to call that race beforehand without going back and doing a lot of research into finishing positions and such that happened at previous races, because this is one of those tracks that as much as you think you know about it, you don't. Yeah. I feel like it's going to be something that I'm going to have trouble figuring out who I'm even going to think is going to have a good shot without specifically looking at this track results. And I totally understand why you're behind Reddick and I completely agree with that, but with the rest of the playoff field, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that truex. Almost won it once and that's about it. I can't tell you where anybody else runs at this racetrack, and I know Blaine, he's won it once and now for much. [00:47:42] Speaker B: I'd have to go look at it from last year, but it's like it almost doesn't matter what you did at a road course before. Next gen nowadays. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Yes. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Chase has won. I mean, Chase used to win every road course. Chase hasn't won one since we've been in this new car. So you know who has dominated some road courses in this new car? Michael McDowell. People like So and Reddick has done the same thing. And Reddick had won some road courses before and his is translated over. I know, but I just think it has. [00:48:21] Speaker A: If it's a road course, that's not. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Your typical road course, which I call the typical ones like your Walkins, Glenn, Sonoma Watkins. Glenn like those places, but these places like Coda, the Roval, the Indy road course, those are where the guys like Reddick, if we had Shane SVG in there, I think he would do great at this track. But those are where those kind of guys like that shine. I don't know why, I don't know what it is, but he shines at places like that. And I could see Reddick just whooping their ass, personally. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the biggest part about and we're obviously going to be talking betting more than just picking who we think is going to win. The biggest part about it is I don't think it's going to be easy to make a call until you see qualifying, because track position is obviously going to matter. [00:49:19] Speaker B: The main thing, because they can't pass at all. [00:49:21] Speaker A: They can't and they put the stage breaks back in. [00:49:25] Speaker B: So is that there are going to be stage breaks. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Is that that's what I heard. Yeah, that's what I've been hearing. Is that there's going to be stage breaks back at the Charlote Oval. I will confirm that right quick. [00:49:35] Speaker B: No, I just can't remember. We do something one week and do something else the next, so I can't remember. [00:49:41] Speaker A: I can't stand that either. Announce procedural changes Tuesday for the latest road course on the Road 2023. Schedule reinstating caution periods at the end of each stage, which why, I mean, if you're going to start the year off one way, end it that way. I don't get this changing in the middle. I know we need to make them more exciting, but it's not the excitement factor. Restarting at the Roval is not an excitement factor, it's a crash fest. So I don't see how that's really going to help anything out. But either way, that's the hard part about it, is if they didn't have the stage brakes, I would say whatever they qualified in, expect it to be pretty similar to pretty close. There's not much else you can do to flip strategy on anybody. You can undercut a couple of people, you could have a really fast car and a really good lap, but with these stage brakes, you have the option of pitting before the stage ends to advance track position and all that other stuff that you can do to play around with these stages. So I don't know. This is going to be such a tough race to call. I would not throw too much crazy money down on this race coming up just for the fact it's going to be so difficult to see where everybody's going to end up at. [00:50:55] Speaker B: I will probably throw my normal same amount down, which will be $40. There you go. I'm excited about the race. [00:51:06] Speaker A: You know, I love this racetrack. [00:51:08] Speaker B: I do. Like I said last week, I called this. The Roval is no longer after this week. I called this before I even heard anyone really say that. And then Dell Jr. Comes out and says that he heard the Robles not coming back. And I was like, well, that just confirms me saying it right there. So if you're a Roble fan, soak it up. Because this probably it, because it has the chance to be an absolute snooze fest. And everyone knows that. And there's already people shitting on the Roval as of today on Twitter because Talladega is behind us. And now we're looking at the it just it's a road course in next gen, man. It just has potential to be a snooze fest. And just props to NASCAR, I guess, for noticing it. And what Dale Jr. Says, if Kentucky and Iowa and the oval charlote all come back next year, they're doing exactly what two dumbasses like me and you said or what we thought they could do with changing the schedule and throwing some extra mile and a half in there just to capitalize on it right now. If they make changes, they can change it next year. The schedule can change. That's totally fine. So it just seems to be it's cool to me that we talk about some stuff on this podcast, then the same week gets talked about after we talk about it on the podcast. You know what mean? [00:52:37] Speaker A: Like yeah. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Makes me feel like we do halfway know what we're talking, so we enjoy me. That makes me feel good, talking about not knowing what we're talking about. I on Sunday did not have a good betting day, but Caleb had a big betting day. I think you had a shit ton of bets hit. [00:52:56] Speaker A: This was my biggest win to date, which wasn't anything insane, but I won about $65 on this race, so let's go. That helped pay for half of the diecast that I bought, but there you go. Obviously, we always say place some money on your favorite driver, and luckily I've had my favorite driver at his best track, which I know is kind of it's funny to say that somebody's best track is Talladega, but it genuinely is his most consistent track with three wins there now. So I put money down for him to win, and at plus 1100, that turned into a real big win. Then I had another bet for justin Haley to finish in the top ten and he ended up finishing in like 6th or 7th. And then my one that I didn't know hit until about 45 minutes after the race, I placed Austin Cindric as a top five driver and he finished in 6th at the end of the race. And due to Kevin Harvick's lack of window fasteners or whatever the heck it is, I still don't fully understand his penalty yet due to that happening. It pushed Austin Cindric up one spot into fifth place. And so about an hour after the race was ended, they put my bet through for that. So I ended up winning just those three. But those three all had such plus odds that it ended up turning into a major profit day despite the fact I had about seven other bets that didn't hit, so turned out to be a great spot. The betting slip worked exactly what you want and I'm all about it. I had one parlay with three drivers picked in it and I wish I'd left it at two because two spots hit and one missed by that much. But yeah, great day all around for that. [00:54:44] Speaker B: All I had was Corey LaJoy top five hitting. That's all I got. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Yeah, which was a solid bet too. I can't believe that one worked out. Wait, top five, top ten, what was it? I can't remember what he placed. [00:54:59] Speaker B: He finished fifth. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Oh, did he? By God, he finished fourth after Harvey got disqualified. DQed. [00:55:12] Speaker B: He had a good day. I will say though, Saturday me and Caleb both put Moffat down, which was plus 1400, I think. Yeah, something huge, which is my personal biggest flat bet so far. I had a plus 13. I made a parlay that was like 13 something. Other back, that's, that one I made on the way back from Indiana. So that was like plus 13 something and this was a straight plus 1400, so that was by far my biggest one. I put money on Cliggerman and Moffat and coming to the very end they are pushing each other hard to say. I felt good, I was like, I'm good here, dude. And their ODS were exactly the same. So I was like, I'm good here. I think I was like on the last lap there coming to us like, one of these two guys is going to win this race. When Rhodes crew chief came across and he was like, we are totally content running second. Like we'll push the 34 or 38, whatever he was driving, he was like, we'll push him. It's like we need a good point today and we need to finish second. We're not going to put ourselves in jeopardy because we need to keep those points. I was like, I'm just hearing all the right things right now for Moffatt to pull this off and he did and I felt good about Moffatt. Anyway, the freaking 38 truck just won. A championship last year. His teammate. So front rows got good trucks. And I don't know if you all know this, but moffatt is a truck series champion with a full time xfinity ride. And Jamie little is on a broadcast saying he's auditioning for a truck ride. [00:56:53] Speaker A: I heard that too. And I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I was like, that's the stupidest. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Shit I've ever heard in my life. Acting like Bret Moffat just came out here. I mean, Bret Moffat has cup series starts. He's a full time xfinity driver, and he's a truck champion. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Truck champion. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Put some respect on his mean. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Put some respect on his beer gut. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Come on, don't I was so confused by that. And as dumb as some of the moves they make in the truck series are, I was like, moffat knows what he's moffat moffat's got the experience. Like, if anybody's going to do it, moffat has the experience to make it happen. So I felt really I mean, being plus 1400, he hadn't made a truck start in a couple of years, but I was like, it's probably the most confident plus 1400. Bet you could make. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Everything they could to take it away from him, too. I mean, the end of that race was awful. I hated it. They couldn't make it a damn lap without wrecking each other and something going. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Truck series, man, the truck series is. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Becoming more of a joke. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Piss every race. It really is. It has lost its coolness. It used to be so awesome back when you had young guys and badass veterans racing each other. Nowadays you have a bunch of fucking little kids racing Matt Crafton's 52 year old ass and that's all you got. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Even Steve LaTart on the dirty modo betting podcast said, we are just not even going to bring trucks up on this podcast. He doesn't even care. He doesn't want to talk about them. He doesn't give a damn about betting on them. I think he just thinks it's a waste of his mean. Probably has something to do with the fact that the trucks are broadcast on fox and not NBC. But I don't care. It's like you don't even want to talk about them. As a major member of this sport whose opinion carries weight, like, man, if I was NASCAR, I'd be really looking hard at that. And all these teams that are hiring these nobody NASCAR. [00:59:01] Speaker B: It's the what you're about to say right there. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Nobody kids that they hire but have a minimum amount of experience. Then they put them in these trucks and all they end up doing is just wrecking all their equipment. It's like, if I was a team owner. How are you making money? How are you doing this if your trucks are constantly getting scrapped every week because of the idiots that other people put in the trucks, put them on short tracks and limit the amount of damage they can cause to each other. [00:59:27] Speaker B: That's what the truck series used to be. Dude, they used to run it was 90% short tracks. They ran Daytona and they ran at Charlote. That's pretty much it. And then now it's like should be a now they barely run any short tracks and they run a bunch of mile and a half and they run Daytona and Talladega. [00:59:47] Speaker A: I don't really know. [00:59:48] Speaker B: The truck series is like it's definitely lost its identity and cool factor to me. Am I still going to turn the truck race on every now and course, you know, whatever. But it's like just some of the stuff they do is just so dumb. And while we're on it, let's just go ahead and dive in. Let's do it to the Nick Sanchez deal. [01:00:16] Speaker A: The award you don't want, but you got to earn the hard way, or you just sucker punch a kid and we give it to you anyway. [01:00:23] Speaker B: Matt Crafton, hack of the week. And I've never been a Matt Crafton fan in my whole life. Like, he's never done anything for dude. Dude hasn't won a race in three years. What is he even doing out there? [01:00:36] Speaker A: He won a championship without winning a race. And I hated that three years ago. You know what? [01:00:43] Speaker B: He's just I don't know what he's doing other than sucking off John menard. I don't know what he's doing. I don't get it. Who did you tell me Matt Crafton looked like? Or did someone tell me they looked like somebody? I can't remember. But it was funny as shit, whoever the comparison was. [01:01:06] Speaker A: I don't recall. [01:01:08] Speaker B: But either way, I think Matt Crafton was at fault for this wreck personally. I mean, the two truck is there. He can't be anymore there. And then the 88 cuts across his nose. Yeah. [01:01:25] Speaker A: And you can't did you say anything different? What they I think Matt thought that he should be allowed to regain that spot in front of Nick Sanchez. And Nick Sanchez is young enough to not know the etiquette of what to do in those situations all the time. And Matt races around these kids constantly. He knows that these kids aren't as crazy experienced. And he sees that truck down there and wants to jump in front of him. And I know he's got a spotter screaming in his ear that he's there. So yeah, I think Matt came down and expected him to move out of the way for him. And it's like, I can't give up my momentum just to let you back in line, dude, we'll have to regain all of this back up again. And there's just no reason to ever do anything like that. And it's just straight go down. There about a talladega racing deal I've. [01:02:18] Speaker B: Never seen anybody do. I mean, you're plate racing. That's just plate racing is what it is. And then he goes down there and parks it in Nick Sanchez's pit box. Which even when that happened on the broadcast, I was like, that's weird. I literally, in my mind, I was like, I thought, that's weird to me. I don't know. Like, what is there to be that pissed off about? [01:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah, he says the way he pushed my truck gave me no ability to get out of the situation. And he was told multiple times during the race the way he was pushing people is going to cause a wreck and going to get people hurt. Dude, they're young kids, man. Like we were saying, sometimes we hate it that they're young kids because they make dumb moves and dumb mistakes. But on the other hand, they are young kids and they are going to make dumb moves and dumb mistakes. [01:03:07] Speaker B: This is what I want to tell Matt Crafton. If you want to race around guys that don't make dumb moves and dumb mistakes, grow some balls and go to the Cup Series. Because what are you doing? And you're older than all the Cup Series drivers anyway. I don't understand. [01:03:25] Speaker A: If you're going to sit and complain. [01:03:26] Speaker B: Around about it, go to the Cup Series. You've already proven you ain't a good driver. And I know that's why you ain't a Cup Series, but just go to the Cup Series if that's your big issue, driving around drivers with no experience in talent. [01:03:40] Speaker A: Absolutely. And he says something along the lines of Nick Sanchez threatened him. And there was some words that were spoken and exchanged and all, but I don't know. It's all at the end of the. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Day because he said that Nick Sanchez's mom, I don't know if you've seen that big post she made that's all over Twitter now. She said that he turned around and got sucker punched. You hear Nick Sanchez and his people, they say the same thing. I don't know what to believe. But if Krafton just turned around I'm all for fighting. Everybody knows I love a good NASCAR fight. I always have. But if you just tap a guy on the shoulder and just break his nose when he turns around, like, what. [01:04:20] Speaker A: The fuck is that? [01:04:21] Speaker B: And if you're a 52 year old man and you do it to a 22 year old kid, that's even more stupid. [01:04:27] Speaker A: Yeah, there's no reason to ever get. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Anything about yeah, I'm not in on anything about Matt Crafting or what he's got going on. [01:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Everything that he's saying through his Twitter response, which I'm reading right now for the first time. [01:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw my first threads or six tweets or whatever. [01:04:47] Speaker A: My first reaction to what he has to say is, it sounds like you're a 52 year old or whatever age he is. Man walked up to a kid and you were mad, and that's fine, and you wanted to get on to him and tell him what needed to happen differently or this or that. Now all of a sudden, it starts to get more even if what you're saying is true and things start to get more heated at some point, you left Nick Sanchez with a possible broken nose, blood dripping all over his face and all over his suit. You're telling me that you've gone this long and haven't learned how to control yourself when a situation gets that heated, to just walk away because you know this isn't going to make you look, I'm with you. I love a good NASCAR fight. But I do not love a good NASCAR fight between a 52 year old man and a 20 year old kid that just barely knows what he's doing. I think that's a situation you just got to walk away from. I love the drama. I love that we're getting people they give a shit enough to get out there and defend themselves and all that. I love it. But at the end of the day, man, it just does not make Matt look good. This is not a situation that makes you look good no matter what you have to say. Now, you didn't get the first word and you left the other guy looking worse. So it is what it is. Welcome to it, Matt. You earned yourself the hack of the week award. Just everything you could want in a NASCAR weekend. We got a proposal. We got our drivers winning while we're at the racetrack. We got NASCAR fights. Talladega lives up to the hype once again. [01:06:20] Speaker B: There was two more things I want to talk about. I know we're a little over an hour here. There's two more things I want to talk about before we got off completely. One was the Harvick DQ. I love Rodney Childers, so I believe what he said. But I also love Bozy. I don't know how to say his last name, so I'm not going to screw that up here on live air. But if you're on NASCAR Twitter, you know who Bozy is. He does all the mechanical. He says all that stuff. He used to actually work for NASCAR. He works for Legacy on Jimmy Johnson's car. He works on some Isma cars. Smart dude. Very smart dude. And he was like, I'm just going to be honest with you all. There's not a Cup Series team that gets caught doing something that was doing it on accident 99.9% of the time. There was a reason for something happening. And I also believe that as much as I believe Rodney's thing. And Rodney said that they silicone. Those bolts in that window. The screws are black. They're about this long. They posted a picture of them. They screw in. That's what hold your window in place. There's probably four on the side, four across the top. There's probably 16 of these bolts that hold them in. I don't know if you remember, Harvick got busted with this. Jamie McMurray chase Elliot There's a few guys that got busted with this a couple years ago. [01:07:49] Speaker A: Windshield dipped windshield, back glass. [01:07:54] Speaker B: You remember when you leave. Now, he does a whole post on this. So if you want to go look at it on Twitter, everybody go check it out. I'm going to give you the short, sweet version. You leave a couple of those little some of those screws loose. You know what that window does? He was saying pushes in, gives you some more of that drag on that race car and he shows the car through the wind tunnel and how the car goes over the wind goes over the car and stuff. And he was like, I'm not saying this is what they're doing, but I'm just telling you nobody does stuff on accident in the cup series garage. I thought that was super cool. Yeah, I thought that was super cool. Just post he went into detail. He does that all the time for stuff. Goes into that much detail. Like I said, go check it out if you hear this. But yeah, I think they might have been trying to do some funky stuff. I don't know. [01:08:47] Speaker A: Probably they want to get Kevin his last win. They want to put him up there and get him into victory lane one more time. [01:08:56] Speaker B: And I think they're going to do. [01:08:57] Speaker A: Whatever they can to make that happen. [01:08:59] Speaker B: That was probably the last real chance. He absolutely props to him. I don't hate it at all. I'm here for mean now. [01:09:07] Speaker A: It is what you got to. They had nothing to lose at that point. They don't have a car in the championship run. They're just trying anything they can. [01:09:15] Speaker B: Second place means nothing to Kevin Harvick. Second or last, it does not matter what place he finished yesterday. It's literally all for win, so what does it matter? [01:09:25] Speaker A: And I think everybody knows that NASCAR is not going to take away Kevin Harvick's final. Like go through tech and they find that window fastener is a little undone and Blaney finishes second. I think Blaney stays in second. I don't think they would have done. [01:09:41] Speaker B: I don't about it. I don't know if you remember this, but when we were walking out and walking beside the tech shed and you went over to do take a picture of Blaney's winning car, Harvick's car was in the shed while we were right there. We were right there when this was going down. We just didn't know. We didn't have no clue. And the second thing I wanted to say was the massive hit that the three and the 54 did, dell Jr. Says on the broadcast he thinks it's the first time ever they kind of go into this a little bit. It was the first time ever two cars hit at the same place at the same time on the next gen and like talking about how much damage that actually did to the wall. How that? [01:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I wanted to see. So what ended up happening to the wall. [01:10:28] Speaker B: They don't really go. [01:10:28] Speaker A: They hit it. [01:10:29] Speaker B: They think they said either the steel beams like the steel in between those beams that are welded together, either that was busted, or the foam on the back was. So when it hit and busted up, that that was also busted. [01:10:45] Speaker A: That's what I remember up there. The weld. I saw the mini weld welder out there. [01:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:53] Speaker A: So I figured something on the beams had broken. Something behind the wall that they weld it to was gone. [01:11:01] Speaker B: ODS of having two, I mean, awful hits, but two cars hitting at the I mean, the way they did it, they hit like this right here. Both cars hitting the exact same spot. Something we've never seen. Just one more thing that you think you have thought of everything, and then boom. Two cars hit the wall in the same spot at the same time and break some shit. I just thought that was wild that they said that on the broadcast and brought it up. I never thought of that. Like, two cars in the same spot. But it messed the wall up really hard. I mean, that was a hard lick. And we've talked about the next gen safety. The cars blew apart like they were supposed to. They look like they've been, uh gibbs and Dylan got out. Dylan's obviously pissed off. Gibbs seemed pissed off, as they should be, I guess. But yeah, glad they're okay. But hard hits there for those guys. [01:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely a hard hit. Well, trade and paint. I think we both agree on this. You already have it written down in the notes, and I completely agree with it. That Six car, they were the ones that got us to the track. And we were glad to be in that company because that car looked phenomenal plumbing. [01:12:16] Speaker B: Six does it for me. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that thing looked great. It was like a slight camicast. Oh, man, I would love to have the diecast. I hate that it ended the way that it did for them. I mean, it was real funny. We were on the pit box for about 1015 minutes, and we were told that there was some sponsors coming back, so they wanted us to go ahead and clear out. So as soon as we get on the ground, we're standing there for about 30 seconds trying to figure out what we need to do, and all of a sudden, his entire pit crew just jumps up and starts sewing stuff and getting mad. And we were like, what the hell happened? You said you heard the cars backing off. I wasn't paying attention to notice it. And when you under red flag and everybody's packing up everything at the six pick box and you know you're seeing sponsors coming down, and one of the sponsor guys was yelling, I swear, man, they need to get Josevar off this damn track. He doesn't even belong in this race. He just needs to go back down to the damn trucks and stay there. This and that. He's pissed, which I get it. But, man, I was just cracking up listening to this guy just talk, just drag Carson Hosevar's name through the proverbial mud. It was awful. [01:13:28] Speaker B: I totally forgot what I was about to say. Oh, if you are at Daytona, Talladega, or Atlanta, and you hear the cars let off the gas and the crowd go crazy, something happened somewhere. Something happened, and that's what I heard that, and I was like, I don't see it, but I hear it. And I wasn't around a TV, so I didn't know where even at on the track it had happened at, but it was a bad wreck. Kez even got some air up under the car. I don't think it was that big a deal. The car sat right back down like it was supposed to. See, that's one of those things where I applaud NASCAR. The car did exactly what it was supposed to do. It came up and went down. [01:14:08] Speaker A: Like, can't win them all. They did win that one. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Those guys were safe to hit the wall head on. I mean, hosavar. Hit the wall head on. I mean, it was a big wreck all the way around. They're in a very fast part of the track. There props to them. [01:14:22] Speaker A: They. [01:14:26] Speaker B: Like I said, congratulations. Everybody's safe. [01:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah, which you need, which is awesome to see. So going into the roval next week. [01:14:37] Speaker B: Roval bet, put money on 45. That's all I got to say. [01:14:41] Speaker A: That's about the only person I could say I'd confidently bet on right now. But, man, people that need a good day, everybody from pretty much true X down. I feel like I agree with Larson. Yeah, it's going to be a tough one. Kyle bush needs to win. It Chastain. [01:14:58] Speaker B: Kyle Bush got to win. Chastain needs to win. [01:15:02] Speaker A: There's possibilities to people pointing their way into it, but basically watch out for turn one because it'll come up and bite one of these player off drivers in the ass by the end of the race. There's just no way around that. So we'll see. I'm excited to watch it. We'll be back on the road again. I don't even know where the hell we're going. [01:15:18] Speaker B: We're going to be in Jersey, dude. We got a long drive home, so we probably missed the first part of it. [01:15:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. We're going to Redding, Pennsylvania. Manchin Tucket, Connecticut. I've never been to Connecticut before, so that's I only have, like, seven or eight states that I haven't been to boat. Two of them, including Hawaii and Alaska. So I only got like five or five, maybe six states in the Continental that I haven't been to yet. And this will be one of them. [01:15:43] Speaker B: So check them. I'm in the same boat. [01:15:46] Speaker A: Then New Jersey ended Atlantic City. So yeah, we got a hell of a weekend coming up for traveling. I feel like we're just constantly saying that, but we'll be on the road. If you see us, come say hi. I know we got some guests coming in. Greg we'll see him in Connecticut. We met him down in Key West. So I think we just need a good weekend get back home, watch some Rover Racing on the way back and then we'll record another podcast next Monday. [01:16:18] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Thank you all for listening. Dawson average music on all my socials. [01:16:24] Speaker A: Caleb Conrody on all of mine. Don't forget about Raised Rowdy. Raised Rowdy, nikki T and Matt Burrell. And go follow Randy Adams too, if you want to see how much fun he can have with one lifetime. It's kind of wild to watch and shout out to him because he sent me a message after the win. [01:16:42] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:16:43] Speaker A: I hope I didn't shit myself and I still haven't, but I'm working on it. [01:16:48] Speaker B: He actually texted me and was like, man, I don't know how you all going to be able to do the podcast tomorrow with all the exciting shit that had went on this weekend. [01:16:55] Speaker A: I know. Here we are about almost an hour and 20 into it. I'm not surprised. There was so much to talk about. [01:17:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:03] Speaker A: Let's have another good weekend. Yeah, let's do it again sometime. I'm down. [01:17:09] Speaker B: I'm down too. We'll see you all after the roval. Like I said, enjoy it because I think it's going to be the last one. [01:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah, love it. We'll talk to you all later. Y'all let us know what you think. [01:17:20] Speaker B: Y'all be good. [01:17:25] Speaker C: I don't drive a Monte Carlo and my truck ain't painted black. It ain't got a big white number three turning left around a track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away. These good years can't handle dirt. Don't need no curves with banks. What I like in horses, I make up with four by four. I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door? Checkers record my foot hammered on the gas? I'm making my way to you, girl earn hard fast, girl hood, my hood don't say good ring ain't ever.