Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: This is Ray's Rowdy Racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards.
[00:00:11] Speaker A: What up, what up, what up?
[00:00:13] Speaker B: What's going on?
[00:00:14] Speaker A: Two weeks late, but we're here Thursday, April 17th.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: Yes, sir. We're coming in a little bit late this, this week. We both had quite a bit going on the, the last couple, couple weeks for sure. So just kind of jumping back in here and getting back at it again. Post Bristol race the biggest snoozer of 2025 so far for some of us.
[00:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, no, I mean it was, I don't, I mean, okay, I'm a Larson fan. I enjoyed Larson winning the race, but I mean anybody, whoever the fan of the guy was that was in first was going to be, they were going to be cool with it, you know. But yeah, the problem, I think what makes it a snooze fest is, or yeah, this is what makes it a snooze fest is they, if you, if Larson goes back to 15th place, he's not going to get the lead back. Yeah, if. Or you know, worse than 15th or whatever. Like he had a dominant car, but it was because he was in front to control the race and stayed there. I think if Denny goes to the front or you know, gets in front at the time, he stays there and you know, nothing changes. So that's probably, that's the most frustrating part with the whole deal.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: And the only thing that anybody's going to have to say to that is, well, what about Alex Bowman? He started out in the lead and ended up losing it. And I mean, that's such a non argument due to the way that everybody was taking everything so easy at the beginning of the race.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: That's the situation.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: He just was, yeah, Kyle was pushing on the pedal a little bit harder than Bowman was there. So it's like, of course he passed him. One, his teammate's not going to fight him that hard about it that early in the race that unsure about what's even going to happen in the next few laps. And two, it's like, well, if he wants to give it a go, I mean, it could be that in 40 laps I'm going to get right back by him when he has to go down pit road. And I don't.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, you know, he just, he literally was just the first guy to put the hammer down. I think he qualified third. So he was there, had the opportunity, you know, had the chance and you know, they kind of were talking about on the broadcast on the radio. I mean, everybody's smart you know, every. Every single person here. Smart. They can set. They can tell if the car. I mean, if the track's taking the rubber. They talking about immediately how there wasn't marbles up on the outside lane. So, like, it didn't take very long for them to figure out, like, hey, these tires, they might wear faster, but they're not wearing like they were yesterday, you know, Saturday. And that's as soon as, you know, a guy like Larson sees that, boom, there he is. He's also probably the most aggressive guy in the field. And why not, you know, go give it a shot and let her rip? And that's what he did.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And let's be even. Be even more clear. It wasn't even necessarily a guess on Kyle Larson's part. You've got to give him the credit of having been in multiple generations of cars at this point, multiple different versions of racing. He's got a really good read on what tracks are doing. He can look at the track, feel the track, try out different areas of it, and he can basically give you an update, especially to the crew chief. Just saying, like, look, I can see the rubber getting laid down. I can feel the speed that I still have in these tires after all these laps that I didn't before with the. With the colder weather. I mean, I think he just knew exactly what he needed, and as soon as he felt it, he went for it. And he wasn't even the only one. I mean, look at Justin Haley getting up there into the top five.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: For a moment and showing off that he was willing to go out and to go a little bit more of an effort. So.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. We're having some small technical difficulties here.
Caleb is completely gone now, so it's just me some. I'm.
I'm just going to throw it out here. I'm sitting here in my man cave that I just recently made, and I have the 01 Rockingham race on the TV right now, so I am also watching that. Okay, Caleb's back now, but you're over there having.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: If I tried to turn on the Rockingham race right now, I'd probably wreck my wi Fi so hard, you wouldn't see me again for another hour.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: I was just. I didn't really know where to go, so I was like, well, I'm sitting here watching this Rockingham race Dale Jr just wrecked. Everybody knows about that famous wreck at the start of the race.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: I was loving it. Whenever you told me earlier, we were talking on the phone and you told me that you had that on. While you were organizing race cars, I was like, damn, Dawson's just having the most Dawson time he could be having right now. And I bet he's loving it.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna. I can say this on the pod now. I was gonna tell you this when we were on the phone, but all that to say Bristol wasn't that exciting. So we can talk about whatever.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: I mean, we can. We can jump back into it, but go ahead.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: I found. And I guess this is from just like, moving. I don't. When I say, like, I don't remember this box, though. Like, it doesn't. I have no recollection of this box that I'm about to tell you about, but I was looking for.
I did the.
I did the giveaway for Take my Truck for like a pit crew shirt, hat, and some koozies and stuff like that. And still haven't got that in the mail yet. Like an idiot. But I've also just been like, everywhere but home the last few weeks. But I messaged the guy and told him, like, hey, I'm. I'm gonna get this in the mail, I swear. Anyways, I have a bag, like a. Literally, like a trash bag full of all of, like the team issued hats. I have just like that. I knew where those were, like up on top of the closet. And I knew I had a box up there that still had some shirts in it and stuff. So then I. There's another box up there. I'm like, what is this box? And I go to grab it, and it's like, heavy as hell. And I'm like, what? What is this, Dude? I pull it down. It's full of damn race cars. Dang full of race cars. And I don't. I just.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: 64S.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: I don't know. I. Yeah, all 64. Damn. It's just slap full. And I thought I'd had. You know, I thought I had all my cars out. I had no idea they were there. And so I just found these, like, last week. And I was gonna put, you know, I'm gonna put them on this. These shelves right here behind me where the other little 164s go.
Because I have a lot of my other 164s on this new. Well, it's new to me. It's used. But this little.
I call it an entertainment center, but it's not. It's just these, like, glass shelf things.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Little curio cabinets over there.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I put all the. I put most. Yeah, most of my 164s. Like, all over there, like all. I have the most Dell junior cars of any car. So like all the juniors, all the Larsons, all the Carl Edwards, Chase, Elliott and then Earnhardt Senior put all those over there. And over here is just going to be like all the miscellaneous cars of just like random cars that I have.
[00:07:23] Speaker B: Heck yeah. That's awesome. I love that you're finally getting a chance to get all that set up and finding. I mean, if anybody needs to know how many race cars, NASCAR memorabilias, anything merch wise that you've somehow collected over your lifetime. If anybody wants to know how much there is, we're talking about an entire box full of 164s you completely forgot about.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, even that sounds so stupid to say out loud, but no, it's hilarious.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: I respect the, I respect the drive just to like a month, month and a half ago, you found the holy grail of estate sales for NASCAR memorabilia, went out there and raided that garage for an entire like day and a half. I think it was.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: I was there for three hours. Yeah, I was there for three hours. It was.
There was this guy, I didn't know him personally, but he was a dirt track driver here in town.
Right here, you can see or. Well, you can't see it, but there's a piece of sheet metal I got off his car here. And then this piece right here I'm touching. You can see it around the corner here. I got a piece, I got two pieces of sheet metal off this guy's car. He passed away, had a massive. So they did his. They did an estate sale at his house and estate sale at like his race shop. And they had already done the estate sale at his house. This is the one at his race shop. And it was just two, just big aluminum barn buildings.
And my dad had sent it to me and one of the main things on there, they're talking about NASCAR stuff. And he also had just like, it was a dude's estate sale. I mean, it's car parts, full engine blocks. There was old cars there for sale.
I mean, any kind of tool you could possibly think of. And like just not even tools, but like nuts and bolts and just like probably stuff that there's people all across America like, man, I really need this, you know, bolt that goes on this 1957 Ford that I have out here. And like this guy, he's probably.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it would be perfect.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: That's kind of like the old incredible.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: That's kind of like if you're in music, you'll know about this. But along probably about 10 years ago, everybody was worried about the tubes, like the vacuum tubes running out of them because there was no one even making them anymore. Pretty much like the ones that you could find were reclaimed from somewhere. And I'm not sure if that's still ongoing or if that's still a worry that people have, but that's exactly kind of the, kind of the equivalent of a race car mechanic trying to upgrade all these old school pieces of equipment that they've quit. Even making like left handed screws in that particular thread count. And you'd have to completely rebore your hole or do something crazy to it just to make it work and stuff. Like that's just a gold mine.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: Yeah. It was so cool. And so on top of that they had, when I say a whole wall, I mean 50 foot stacked like 3 and 4 and 5. Six cars high of these tables, down a wall of NASCAR 124 die cast.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Which is just crazy. That's a lifetime of collecting.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: And yeah, all elite, all in the box, all had the paper. I mean just everything. And I'm down there, I got my flash, I brought my flashlight. I'm down on the ground. I got cars stacked up as tall as I am. Just looking, you know, I'm just in there looking. And I spent three hours at this place and it was awesome. It was incredible. I ended up buying like, I bought like seven or eight Earnhardt 124s that I didn't have. And then I got these two pieces of sheet metal off of his car, which is cool. It's a local. Wrong guy. They gave me, they gave me a picture of him racing these cars at Rome Speedway. So I got. And they're all covered in mud and stuff. So I just think it's all just cool, you know, like, like I said, I didn't know the guy, but it's still sentimental to me because like it's hometown.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Local guys, you know, red Georgia clay from Rome Speedway throwing up on the side of the doors.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So with all your family history at.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: The track, maybe I can show you some. This is heck yeah.
Yeah. Jefferson. Oh yeah. Also like, I love Jefferson's. Like we go there like once a week. So that's also pretty cool.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: That is really cool.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: And then that's the other piece right there.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah, that's another door panel. Looks like, I can't quite see it with the glare going on, but I mean he looks like he had some cool stuff going on for sure.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely a. Definitely a guy I would have, like, totally would have hung out with.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: But yeah. So y'all came up for the 500. This. I got the room, like, you know, 99 of the way there. I have more room now than I've ever had before. So I'm like, man, I can buy some more stuff. You know, I got some open spots on the wall.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: Already shopping. Already shopping the wall. Yeah.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: And so. So, yeah, I gotta.
Now, like I said, once I found that box of 164s, I was like, well, now I got to put all those up. So that's what I was in the process of getting done when we decided to start doing this.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: Heck, yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it's just looking great in there. I can't wait to finally get my stuff finally hung up on the wall. I got to clean off still some of it from the fire and get a lot of it picked back together again, but got a couple new die casts sitting around. I haven't even broke out of the cardboard that they shipped them in yet because there's just no point. Where am I going to put them? But yeah, we're finally getting one.
[00:13:05] Speaker A: So much. At the end of 24, you have. Yeah. Or not 24. 20. Well, he won at the end of 2014, but 23 is what I was thinking of to get all the.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm waiting on the aisle because I ordered the Iowa win and got the autograph version. So I'm waiting on that one to come in. They just delayed that one by a couple weeks, I think. So I think they've pushed it back maybe a month.
But you'll have that on these diecast orders. You order them so long ago, you almost forget that your driver won that race last year. When you're not thinking about.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Somebody brought up a great point. And I just didn't even think about this back in the day or, you know, when. When I was getting die cast.
But it's like now you order these diecast and I get the race win versions. Like, you have to. They have to make them, you know, to get them out or whatever.
[00:13:57] Speaker B: We scan the car as if it's a brand new paint job.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Totally. And it. And 99% of the time, it is a brand new painting job that they can't just. They probably don't even have that paint job scanned, actually. You know what I mean?
[00:14:09] Speaker B: Especially nowadays.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: Yes.
And, you know, back in the day, though, when the season started, and there's a lot of variables that go into this one. There was tons of companies making die casts. 2. These guys ran the same car all year long, but by the time Daytona hit, dude, you went to Walmart. And I mean, they were all there. Start of the year, every one of them. We're all there, you know.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: And it's like now it takes like, they're just. I feel like I don't know if they're so far behind or. I mean, it's one company making them, so it's a lot different. I mean, for you, this would be crazy, but like, when I was a kid, you could buy 124at Walmart.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that blows my mind.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: For like $15. Like 15 bucks. Damn.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: And now you got to order a year in advance for 120.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just crazy, man. It's just crazy. It blows my mind, really. And it just everything. They were so accessible, easy to get to. Like we go to Walmart, you know, I'm always on the toy, you know, the diecast.
[00:15:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: And, yeah, I don't know, they just. That's just not a thing anymore.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it definitely is. Taking a backseat for the obvious reasons you just stated. I mean, that's the hard part about shopping down the Walmart aisle these days is you go there to find cars from the middle of last year that are just now becoming for sale. And by that point I've forgotten whether that car even ran on the track, when was that?
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Or where it ran.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: It's just kind of a. It's. It's hard for me to get super excited about it as much as I used to because the, the schemes really do just change on a per race basis.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Yeah. And they, on the little waves, as they call them now, they only put out what, seven or eight cars.
[00:15:57] Speaker B: And it's like seven or eight cars at a time. So you're. You probably had a great paint scheme that you really wanted and you're just having to worry about whether your local Walmart's gonna stock it. And to be honest, I just don't order 164s. Like, I do 124s. I ordered the 124s for a very specific purpose. But I don't just go out looking for 164 cars to order.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just also me and you had this conversation on the bus, I think earlier, like earlier a few weeks ago. But like the.
I know the quality of like everything has went down, but like, Even still, the 124s of the next gen cars, like, still look pretty solid. But the 164 next gen cars look shittier than a matchbox like Hot Wheels car. They just look all plastic, like it's just not the, the wheels look so big. And I know it's the scale, but it's that little scale brings it down. It makes the wheels look so big and the bottom look so odd. And it's like they just look164.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: The biggest detriment that they have going for them is they have to put them as accurate to the racetrack as they can, which means that they have to put that underbody cover on it. And one of the biggest things that I loved about the old style car is that the 164 that you bought, you can turn it over and see the drive shaft and you can see engine pieces and exhaust and all this different things. And that was always so cool because you really felt like you were holding a car in your hand. And a lot of them were metal back then. And nowadays when you get the 164, it's almost like the toy version of what you saw race on the racetrack.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: It just doesn't, it just doesn't do it the same. And I have, the Only next gen 16124 I have is a Kyle Larson Coke 600 when he ran the patriotic. Yeah, paint scheme.
And like I said, it looks good. The one the 124 is I can still get down with even though like I hate how like the hoods don't always open now and the trunks don't always open and all that. That, that stuff gets on my nerves and like it just doesn't look the same. Like that's a quality thing. The 164s though, it's just the way the car is. Like you said, you have to make it exact and it just makes it look goofy when it's so little. Yeah, it just doesn't, it doesn't Translate on a164 for some reason.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: And I have to say my biggest complaint about the 124s these days is that the radio antenna and the camera nodule on the top of the car doesn't come pre installed. So you put those little plastic pieces in there and to be honest, sometimes they don't have a good hold. So you can't turn that car over or you're gonna drop it on this carpet. And I will never find that little radio antenna ever again. And so it just sucks whenever you have an incomplete die cast like that, like the ones I had go through the fire. Since those aren't metal, those little Plastic pieces just melted. So I don't even have them anymore.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's crazy. You see posts about this all the time. People, you know, pulling up a. Posting a car from, you know, early 2000s to a car now, they're just.
It's just insane how like on these cars, like, I'm looking at some of these like, oh, four, like Dell Juniors. Oh, four car. I'm looking at it right now. Like if I turn. That car has springs, dude. And shocks where it, like you can. Suspension moves.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Suspension on the old ones.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah, the wheel moves and like the gas lines and the plug wires. I mean, it looks like they took the car and put it. There's nothing like fake looking about it. It looks like a little bitty car that you could crank up and put a mouse in.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: If you installed a little 2 scale motor in it, you assume that that car would actually perform pretty similar to how a car would, obviously with some, with some understandable differences.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: But yeah, it looks just like it. But man, nowadays are just way different.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it is crazy. And you were talking on how it was so much easier back in the day because the paint schemes were so similar that they could put out race schem every single from the very beginning of the year. Yeah, one motorsport that's really nailing that right now. And it's just proof of what you're exactly talking about. You can go into Walmart and find a 25F1 race car painted up just like Max Verstappen's right now. You can go to your Walmart and probably find this and you pick up the box and it's heavy and it's metal and it's real and it looks true to the car. I mean, I literally look like I'm looking at a mini F1 car, just like we were talking about. So it is possible to make these things to scale and make them look good and accurate at a 25 price point. But the way that Lionel and everybody's gone, it's just gotten to the point now where you're getting them a year and a half late and they are so crazy expensive that it's almost like you have to shop with purpose. Like, the only 124s I even buy at this point are Ryan Blaney wins or. It's gotta be the most memorable race of that entire year and probably of the last three years for me to consider buying someone else's vehicle.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you just heard me. I mean, I have freaking 51, 24 scale cars and I only have one next gen car. Like, I just don't. I just have. I mean even with Larson or anybody, it's just like, dude, I remember being, and this is when I was a kid and didn't have a job and I'm like, you know, scrounging around money to try to buy, you know, race cars at Walmart. But when you could go get like the, like I said you had like the 15 like winner circle ones at Walmart. But like if you wanted to go get the nice ones, the, the, you know, the ones we were just talking about, I remember they were like 50 bucks. And I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I can't believe that.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Which back then 50 bucks got a lot of money.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah. But now starting this week, the dot the 124 race win diecaster 159.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: And like I don't know that it's unbelievable. Blows me away. I just can't, I just have a hard time justifying like 1:59 for this when I can still go to all these yard sales and all this stuff and I'm getting them for 20 bucks or less. And it's like, I don't know, more, more iconic. I don't know. I'm not trying to be like a old man, yell at the clouds like on everything.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's, I just, it's kind of funny.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: You can go get so many. You could go get 5, 124. I, I paid 20 bucks a piece for those ones the other day. Like I said, all the elite ones that, those are the, you know, the real high end ones or whatever, 20 bucks a piece. I mean I could go buy six, I bought six of those for less than I could go buy Kyle Larson's win from Bristol right now.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: And it's kind of funny. It's used to the cutoff for fans was people that had cars up until 2001. And I feel like we're starting to get to the point where there's going to be another division in the fans that stop buying merch at the next gen era then. So like now there's going to be two different or three different classes of fans. The ones that were the old school guys that NASCAR died when Dale died. Then there's going to be the guys like us that buy all the way up to the next gen stop point and then after that it's going to be this new cycle of fans that grew up with the next gen car that'll probably have their own spot where they finally are Just like, look, I'm done. I can't do this anymore, the way that everything is going.
[00:23:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I just don't even know too, like, if the. These newer cars will hold value like some of these older ones have over the years. I know that when I was, I mean, 10 years old, dude, probably like the height of NASCAR, the NASCAR memorabilia was just sold for, like, gold. It was crazy. I mean, it was nuts back then. Like, resale stuff. I mean, not. Not when you bought it. I mean, like, resell, going to the.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Gypsies at the track and everything. And seeing what everybody had already.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. And it's just.
I don't know. Now you're going. You can go buy elite Dale Earnhardt cars, you know, race win version cars for 20 bucks. Yeah. It's just. They don't just have the value like they used to.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: And I think also we're kind of hitting that point where everybody's kind of bought and resold those to the point now where everybody kind of has what they want. There's nothing. You can't create anything new. So once someone feels like they have a complete collection, they're out of the market. So I can totally see why that particular thing died out. But I think another really good aspect about diecast purchasing, and I know we're going super deep on this right now, but I'm loving the conversation.
I mean, yeah, it was kind of like coin collecting. Like, everyone's seen a quarter. Everyone's seen Dale's 3 scheme from back in the day. What you were really. I think one thing that really gets us at a. At a resale shop like this is you're not just looking for any Dale 3 car at this point. You're looking for. I don't have this particular race. And what happened there was super iconic. And I remember that whether that be any driver you can think of. So it's kind of like coin collecting back then, where you're looking at all these crazy amounts of things and looking for that one that you don't have. And it's really cool. And these days, it's so much harder to create that story behind everything when every single race was a different scheme. So it's not like you're. You're going in there, and it's a hodgepodge of everything, and it's almost overwhelming. It's so difficult to dig through it and find what you want. But back in the day, you knew what you were looking at already, and it was like, okay, I know that's from the year that I need. Is it the race that I wanted? It's kind of. That's kind of like how I like to look at it. It's kind of like coin collect.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: Well, like Dell Senior, he raced in that three good wrench car for like 15, 20 years. He only ran about 10 different paint schemes the whole time. And that made those like the Bat, the. You know, the Gold Bass pro car.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I gotta have it. I gotta have it. I gotta have it. Because it only got ran one time or the 96 Olympic car. The list could go on and on, but, like, it made all those, like the, the market was so just, oh, my God, I gotta have them. Because every other car was the Good Wrench three.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: You know, black good Wrench three. So I don't know, it's just. I mean, that's just part of NASCAR as a whole now, you know, I think that's why I love. I love that Larson and it's his owner's business, you know, it's not like Larson has another business on his car. But like, Larson races the same paint scheme every week. Bowman races the Ally paint scheme every week. There's a couple in there, and it's like they really are special when they do a one off. Like, I have the one off, like I said, of the American flag, patriotic one. That's the one that I have, you know, so I don't know. Yeah, it's just it. Times are tough, times are different than.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: They used to be. And it's. It's fun to think back to, even when I first started watching racing, how excited I got about all the merch and die casts and the different things you could get for this particular sport that are so much different than what you could get for like football or baseball or a different kind of sport like that. I mean, these are. You can get everything all the way down to the very piece of the car that they were racing. So it was really. It's a lot of fun. And NASCAR's got one of the healthiest, like, aftermarket merch.
[00:27:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Merch markets that I've ever particularly seen and participated in. So it's a lot of fun to. To do it. And there's to no shame on anybody that collects these newer diecasts. I do it too. I mean, I buy a few of them here and there and I get what I want whenever I see something that I really like. But it's just a lot different these days. You got to look through a lot of noise to get to the really, really good stuff. And it's still, it's, it's its own kind of fun, really.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: I'll say this to end this conversation only because this cracks me the hell up. And it's just so funny. Like, people like, seeing you online as into like actually knowing you as a person. I had a guy comment, I did a video that did pretty well of like just a little, little quick view of the collection or whatever and somebody made this post or comment. Like, you know, 10% of the people on TikTok are just the biggest assholes you've ever met in your life. You just want to push them off a bridge, you know, like, you just, you can't stand.
[00:28:53] Speaker B: Oh, it's so true.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: And this guy, like I said, doesn't know me from Adam, but like, sees this stuff and it's like, oh, you must be loaded, you know, getting, you know, you got all this cool stuff and you know, talking about my, my money situation with like all this NASCAR stuff, and I'm like, brother, if you only knew the half of it. First off, I'm not loaded. Second off, I have pieces of stuff in this building right now is almost a 30 year old that I was playing with on my parents carpet when I was freaking three.
[00:29:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: You know what I mean?
[00:29:28] Speaker B: Hand me downs.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: And this is a freaking 30, almost 30 years worth of stuff I've acquired over all these years. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like, yeah, I was just like, just typical people on the Internet, just seeing something, you know, at face value when they see it and have no idea about you or anything and just get mad.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: Just get, I don't know, people are just like that on the Internet. It's crazy. I mean, you can just watch, watch a NASCAR race with Twitter open one time and you'll see just how much it can get crazy out there. NASCAR's got one of the most passionate and dedicated fan bases and they are stuck on what they want and they will fight for it and myself included. I'm not excluded.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: I do the same. I'm in that as well.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: We just know what we want and we ask for it loudly and vehemently. Most mostly just because we know that if they're going to listen, we got to scream it. Yeah, that's the, that's the fun part. And it can be intimidating being an outsider coming into nascar because we're going to come at you not just with like the sport, but our opinions on the sport. Thus this podcast. I mean, that's the whole Reason we do this.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: They'Re also pitting on pit road right now with just the pit road. Looks like it just poured down. Rain just.
There's water standing on pit road.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: There's got.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: They had tarps. They had tarps on pit road before the drivers came out with like four tires around the corner and then pulled the top tarps off to do these pit stops. I mean, it's just wet as could be.
[00:31:04] Speaker B: Oh, golly.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Unsafe as hell. No one's wearing a helmet. You know, all the good. It's the old school, but it is.
[00:31:10] Speaker B: It's what it is. I love it.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: Oh, man. But anyways, so we had a brief.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Race after 30 minutes of. Of Diecast talk. Hey, outside of that, I have. And I think it's because of what I've been posting on TikTok. My tick tock's always been a lot of NASCAR stuff, but I've never had people, like, showing their collections and stuff there. People. People do still collect and, like, there are some badass NASCAR collections on Tick Tock. So I think if. If we could somehow get this. This first 30 minutes on that side of Tick Tock, they would appreciate.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Diecast conversation.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: It's. That's the one fun part about being who we are doing a podcast like this is we don't have to worry about sticking to one topic. We're fans just as much as we are trying to analyze what we see and different things. We, we started as fans, so we still have our passions about it and the things that we love to do outside of just talk about it. We actually collect and do different things. Went to Charlotte that one time to view all the race shops and got a bunch of stuff then, too. I mean, hell, I got one. I just told my tire back here from the one Bristol race. I had a Sunday off and Bristol was going on that week. So I just drove all the way there by myself, watched the entire race and drove back that night and called you and just had a grand old time. And then we ended up in Charlotte and I found Alex Bowman's right rear tire at the Hendrick shop for 25 bucks that they had on sale. And I said, sold. I mean, I was there. I watched the tire get ready, raced. It was like, I got to have a piece of that race that I went to go see that actually participated in the race. It was really neat. So anybody that collects, go crazy. I love hearing anybody's stories about cool items that they've picked up along the way. That's always a lot.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: Look up the racing warehouse. That's what changed my whole. That changed my life in, like, 2019.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: When we found the racing warehouse.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. I mean, how many hours did I spend at the bar just looking through everything that they put up for sale that day after I got done working that too. So I was just scrolling on through and I would send you stuff. You'd send me stuff? It was going on like crazy back then. Won a couple auctions and did a couple of cool things, got some cool pieces.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: I've bought multiple things from the racing warehouse. I mean, it's great people, great place. Awesome. They have stuff from way back to stuff that got raised last week. I mean, it's just. It's insane, really.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: I ordered a mystery box from them a couple.
A couple months back. Just a little $75 box. They said it would come with a couple pieces of merch from the teams and some hero cards and some 164s. They sent that box that first off, they wrote on the outside of it, boogity, boogity, boogity, let's go racing. And different things, like in Sharpie, personalized. And then they sent it to you in this box. Weighed a solid £20. I mean, there was. I mean, they had a hero card stacked so thick, you could have sold them as a ream of paper and like four or five hats, three or four shirts. I mean, it was crazy. The amount of stuff they sent me off of just a $75 mystery box. It was everything all the way back to the 2000s. It was awesome.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah. It's all.
[00:34:29] Speaker B: I love that.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: It's a great place.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: Love that website.
[00:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: But. All right, well, so, yeah, we'll jump back into the snoozer.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
I don't really know what else to say. I would love to talk about, like, just because everyone else gives their opinions, like, what would you do to make Bristol better? Like, let's, like, me and you, like, what would we. If we could go change a couple things, like, what would we do to make Bristol better?
[00:35:01] Speaker B: One, I just. I'm not sure if it would have helped or not. I've got two or three things I would say to that.
I don't know that that PJ1 was a great idea because it just ended up changing it from a top dominant track to a bottom dominant track to me. And on the face of that, I know some people are going to hear that and be like, oh, my God, this dude doesn't know he's talking about. He didn't know old Bristol. He's only been around since 2017. Whatever you want to say.
I would say that the race that we saw, while it may have on the surface or in a still shot of the look of the track think that. And I could. I can agree it looked like old Bristol, but it did not race like old Bristol. No one could get to anyone's rear bumper. There wasn't as much pushing and shoving as there was back then for position. These cars are a full car length apart in the corners.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: As opposed to being get to the rear bumper.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Yeah. As opposed to lined on up. And then. So that's where it became. Yeah, it looks great for about 30 minutes. And then you finally realize, oh, these tires aren't falling off. They're sticking to the bottom because there's literally nowhere else to go.
Just look at the line. Kyle Larson drove in the Xfinity race. And look at the line. Kyle Larson was driving in the cup race. And tell me that he didn't have more freedom in the Xfinity race to do what he wanted.
They were so glued to that PJ one down there, and it never really rubbered up like they were hoping for to tighten them up. I mean, it just. I don't know. That was my first complaint. I didn't know how much that helped. Two, I would say that they need. They need on those types of tracks to add horsepower back into the cars. They've got to up that. I don't know why we're so stuck in the ways of keeping this horsepower down. There's no reason to overdrive because you kind of can't. And two, at least then we would have to see the drivers genuinely handle these cars back up the racetrack as hard as they are to break loose. You want to imagine how difficult it would be to get up off of turn four or two at Bristol when your car's already just through its own sheer will trying to get you loose. And you know that that's going to be a huge incident if it happens. I think they need to do that and something to do with the aero so they don't have to worry about that snapping loose problem. Get these cars off the racetrack. Take the underbody off or something like, we got to do a different package all together at these short tracks.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: It's the under underbody. I just.
The underbody.
An option tire. Like where we could just have a soft, soft, soft tire and horsepower.
And I'm also on the train. I heard Parker Kligerman say this, and I appreciated it. And it's going to be opposite of what you just said. But I think we go back to just screw this progressive banking thing that we've done the last 15 years at Bristol, make Bristol 36 degrees again, straight up and down like this and let them go at it. Yeah. And I just, I feel like that's just another.
You get the car's horsepower and get the arrow right, they can get to each other's bumper and then if we're all on the bottom, we can push and shove out of the way. And that brings Bristol back to what it was. And he made a good point. It's just like over, like used to back in the day. Every single Bristol race for 50 years was just a banger. A banger. Then they did this progressive thing and even in the old car 15 years ago, the Gen 6 and, you know, whatever, even that could have been the Car Tomorrow era, I don't even remember. But it's been 15 years. You can hand pick a few races here and there at Bristol that have been awesome, but it still wasn't like just the banger that Bristol always was.
And I'm just ready for him to just say, hey, we screwed up and we're going to put it back to the way it was. We gave it a. We gave it a good, honest run for 15 years. Let's put it back the way it was. That got us here.
[00:39:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's something that NASCAR has been kind of guilty of in. Throughout their history. They've. They've been guilty of this.
And when I say nascar, I know I'm going to be talking more about like SMI and the different track owners. But just to keep it simple, one thing that's definitely been an issue for me and I didn't really. I wasn't able to develop this opinion until a few years of watching it and seeing them do this a couple times. They love to try to fix a track to fit the car, which is all well and good as an idea going in until you get five years down the road. And this next gen car is nothing like what it was when it was put onto the track initially.
And even going further back, the Gen 4 cars don't run the same as the car of tomorrow did. They're a completely different setup, completely different type of vehicle. So now we've fixed a track for a Gen 4 or a Gen 6 NASCAR cup car, trying to solve issues back then, but now that we've upgraded the car, we have a whole new set of issues. So it's More to me, I think sometimes we react a little bit too hard, but we don't plan hard enough. So you're fixing issues that are non issues five years down the road. And now you've got to figure out how this new car is supposed to race on this track. And it doesn't really work the same. I love what you're saying. Just go back to the old flat banking. Everything is the same way. If you can figure out a way to run the top faster, you run the top faster. If you figure out a way to run the bottom faster, you run the bottom faster and just send them out there. And I mean, to be perfectly honest, the teams don't really have a lot of freedom to mess with these cars. So the impetus is on NASCAR to get this car right at every single type of racetrack.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: That's. That's what sucks. That's what. That's a. That's a big component to this, is it's all on NASCAR and the teams can't massage or mess with anything.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: On this car, that's. That sucks.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: The true professionals that know how to build, work on and cheat up a NASCAR cup car should have way more impact on how that NASCAR cup car performs on the track. And that should be in the fact that they're able to do things differently than one another to truly give us the best possible product. Because a lot of what is fun is knowing that your driver has a really good team behind them that can create a masterful piece of work in this race car, can build a damn rocket ship for you. And you know that you have a really good team that can do that. Whereas I may be cheering for a driver that doesn't have quite all those advantages and has to, out of sheer driving ability, overcome that. So, I mean, it's. It's something that would just benefit the sport a lot if the suits and ties got out of the garage's way. So the garage can tell you this is what we need to do. More horsepower, take the underbody off here. Good year. Give us as soft of a tire as you possibly can and we'll figure out how to make it work. That's where you're going to have your best race. Yeah, exactly. Because right now you got a middleman between the garage, between the garage and any supplier possible.
So you just have to work through NASCAR's stringent rules and they're just kind of choking the sport off a little bit right now for me.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I texted you Sunday and I was like, I think this is.
This is More serious and more of a bigger deal than the car tomorrow was right now in 2025. Like, have there been some banger races? Yes. Have there been some things that have been awesome? Yes. But overall, the car just really grinds my gears a lot. It just in every way. Like, I just feel like they're.
They've just kind of, like, choked the life out of, like, everything I loved about it and with the car. And, like, they just. The whole point, like, I think people, like, the public still doesn't know that, like, NASCARs don't have, like, 900 horsepower. You know what I mean? But then there's, like, people like my buddy Andrew that races dirt cars. He's like, dude, this car's got damn near double the horsepower that a cup car's got right now.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: And we're running that down here at the damn local racetrack. You know what I mean? Like, the best drivers in the world should have a thousand horsepower. Like, I did just that. Just. That's just the most clearest thing to me. Like, they should be. They're the best. They should have the biggest, baddest, best thing that could possibly be on that racetrack.
[00:44:14] Speaker B: I couldn't agree more.
[00:44:16] Speaker A: That's.
That's where it just, like, drives me nuts. It's like, it shouldn't be.
I'm not going to say easy, because driving these race cars isn't easy, but easier compared to what it was. Like, actual pure. Just, like, handling the car. Like, how tough those. That era of car to drive was back in the day.
And even, like, the car tomorrow, like, they still had 900 horsepower, 950 horsepower. Like, they were still flying.
[00:44:46] Speaker B: Yeah, you know they were flying, and you had to actually drive them back in the day. But that's just. Just something that I think NASCAR's just lost its ability to tread the line between being an upfront and professional sport while also still being an everyday man's kind of racing series. This is supposed to be a series where the best guys who can wrench a car get together and put together the best version of a car that they can, and they get a hell of a wheelman to get behind it. That's got to be extremely talented. So that way he can go out there and sling laps in a monster. And the way that they have them set up now and the way that they're all kind of spec cars, it's not about your ability to turn a wrench. It's about your ability to stop turning it at just the right moment. I mean, that's Just the.
It's just a different attitude towards racing than any of the fans share. I don't know of many fans that share in the, the idea that NASCAR is putting out. And typically those fans are the new fan. Typically those fans are the ones that are a lot more casual.
I mean, the hardcore Die Hards like us, we know what's going on. We're very tuned in. You have to be kind of a nerd to watch NASCAR racing. You just got to be that into it to really get the full picture all the time. And the people that are that way, which are the majority of the people that I talk to about racing, none of them agree with the direction that we're heading in right now. And we just need a big. We need a big shift. And now we've got teams suing nascar. We got NASCAR suing the teams, we got teams suing each other. It's just like we've entered into racing as a business rather than racing as entertainment. And that's just. No, that's no fun.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: Yeah, there's just.
I had something I was about to say and I felt like it was really good. Now I don't remember what it was, but. Yeah, anyways, it's just. Yeah, it's just like.
I don't know, I think I just loved. And Freddie Kraft was talking about this a couple weeks ago about Toyota coming to the sport back in the day or like whatever. But I'm going to say this about like new fans, like instead of like NASCAR trying to cater to this like.
[00:47:13] Speaker B: Broad board of people and an ever moving target.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: Yeah, they, I mean, just honestly. And I think too many people is a lot of people, but in the grand scheme of things, it's really not like 2 million people watch the Bristol race this weekend. Like, why not cater to the people that are watching?
[00:47:33] Speaker B: Yeah, the 2 million people that are watching this week are probably composed of about 1.5 million people that watched last week.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah. So like if you make.
I'm not saying cater to them, but like we all know what we want and like if you make the most badass product of all time, which is what they did back in the 90s to have the boom into the 2000, people will want to watch that and see that and be a part of that, whether it be sponsors or fans or drive, whoever, it's like, damn, that's awesome. Like, I want to watch that. I want to see that happen. Yeah, I want to hear a cup card. Sounds like a. I mean they sounded like something like out of like you never even, like, just straight up, the sound sounded like something you'd never heard before. Yeah, it sounded like a. A demon or something. Like, you're just like, wow, that thing. That thing is something you know, and, like, you're not gonna hear that out here going down the road, you know, in your hometown or wherever. It's like you had to go there to see it and smell it and hear it and. And watch it and. I don't know, like. Yeah, I don't know.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: Well, that's. It's kind of like the. The person at the party that just doesn't know.
Doesn't really know themselves is the one that's usually looking for all the attention from everybody else. So you just know that right now it's almost like NASCAR doesn't even know what they are. They just know that they have something really cool. They don't really know what to do with it, so they're just trying to appeal to everybody and looking for validation from the crowd.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: I heard somebody say that NASCAR has an identity crisis. Yeah.
[00:49:09] Speaker B: Now, that's exactly what it feels like, what you're saying. Yeah, it's just like, if you're looking for validation from everyone you meet, it means you don't really know who it is that you're even trying to appeal to.
That's not gonna.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: You gotta know the audience.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah. You gotta know your audience.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: It's.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: If you're going up to a country show, you're not going to put an opener on there that's playing heavy metal because it just doesn't fit the mold.
[00:49:31] Speaker A: I was just about to say this. It's about music, you know, And I heard. I heard somebody tell me this in Nashville 10 years ago, very early on. But it's like, if you. You being able to go out here and sing and Write and play 15 different genres of music is actually doing you a disservice, because no one knows, like, what the hell you are, and they don't know, like, what it is. Like, you were better off honing in on your thing and making that thing your thing and just go into town on that thing and not just being this, like, strung out, run thin. Like, I can do all of these things pretty good. You're gonna be way better off of being like, I can do this thing. Great. Incredible. Like, this is my thing. And it's the same exact thing you're saying.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's very true, man. But anyways, we can. We can wax philosophical on that all day long, but let's talk about your Driver a little bit this weekend. We had a second place in the truck race. We had a first and a first. And that Xfinity race, I have to say, was probably one of the most impressive things I've ever seen him do. That was unbelievable. Having all the way up to 14th laps after stage one, getting all the way up to I think 12th on stage two, and just the highest I.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: Saw it was 11th total. He had at one point in the race. The top 10 never got loud, but it was 11. Like got up to 11.
[00:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And he was at least two seconds ahead of second place the almost the entire race outside of a couple restarts where he kind of gave it a second to get fired up. I mean, you put him on a long run and you just wouldn't. You'd never see him again until he was right behind you. I mean, just unbelievable.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: Kyle Larson is just a badass. I mean, it just is what it is. And I ain't going to lie when he said that about the 50 wins the other week ago, like if they would have still been in the old car, you know, high horsepower, you know, sheet metal bodies, all this stuff, him saying he'd have 50 wins by now.
Just watch what he does. He did the same thing at Homestead in the Xfinity car and got screwed by the late caution. Yeah, but I mean, he lapped the whole field. If he did the same thing that one year, he finally got to race it again in 21. The dude won 10 races.
And I'm not saying everybody's gonna love that, but I mean, that's how. That's what Jeff Gordon did back in the day. And he had tons of fans and NASCAR was doing real well when he did that, you know what I mean? And I just. Golly, it just. I just think he could have 50 win. He could like the. I. I saw some people talking online, I can't remember who said this, but it's like there are guys and they were talking about some guys that have struggled in this next gen card, like Chase Elliott, Kyle Busches, the Kevin Harvick's, you know, not necessarily. Larson has not struggled. Larson has won races. And if you look at next gen stats, he's very high the list on everything. But you can throw him into the list. Like the harder the cars are to drive is where those guys shot.
[00:52:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:41] Speaker A: And it's these kind of cars. And this is nowhere near what I'm about to say is not a dig on Carson Joseph are whatsoever. Just zero dig on him at all. But he said the reason when he got to race that very first race at Gateway in the cup car, he was like, I know I can go fast in this car because like, you don't have to save tires. You don't have nothing. He's like, you literally can just drive it as hard as you can every single lap. He's like, there's nothing. He's got to drive the hell out of it. Just go balls of the walls. And I just. That's fine. That's the skill set that he has. But like these other guys, I even think Denny and these, like, these other guys, like if you Truex would have been on this list too. But that other car harder to drive, lets their skill set be shown more, you know.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:33] Speaker A: And we've talked about this on before about like, if they did full season points now, it'd be pretty fun because the days of a guy winning 10 races is probably over. I think like about six is where it's going to be for the most right now.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: This next gen car, that's everybody. I'd hate to say never, but I just stick with this car. It's. It's this way.
[00:53:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So that's what would make that long point season thing compelling.
But because. Because you're not going to have the guy that's just going to straight up run away. I think you have a guy that's like a couple guys in that like five to six realm. You have a few guys in that like three realm, you know, and I just think that's.
I don't know, I just. Kyle Larson's just the harder the car is to drive, the more talent he gets to show. Absolutely proves it. He proves it three times a week in a dirt sprint car. So yeah, I mean, he's a damn.
[00:54:29] Speaker B: Good driver for sure. And he's got his faults in, in certain ways. He overdrives certain times and tries to do too much and, and sometimes it gets himself in trouble. But then there, then again there's times at Bristol where he's the first one with the balls to actually put the pedal down and get going. And that gives him control of the race.
[00:54:47] Speaker A: And he also says like, without being aggressive, he wouldn't have as many wins as he has, you know.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of a give and take.
[00:54:54] Speaker A: Like you've got to be given, take.
[00:54:56] Speaker B: Confident that if you wreck a car, you've got a you that says, you know what? We know you can go out and get it done next week. So it is what it is. I Mean, welcome to it. There's certain drivers that are going to take great care of your equipment, but they're also not going to put themselves into awkward positions just for the opportunity to gain a couple spots. And that may be the difference between somebody that's exceptional in this car and somebody that is a top 10 every single week. I mean, that's kind of the difference between a Kyle Larson and an Alex Bowman, in a way.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: I was just about to say the same thing. Yeah.
[00:55:26] Speaker B: As soon as I said top 10 every week, I was like, oh, it's Alex Bowman. There we go.
[00:55:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Yeah. And that just is what it is.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: I'll be the first one to say I never have a problem watching a driver dominate a race, because that is not anyone's. That is not a problem. That is somebody going out there and just whooping the field, and sometimes you're going to have that, and it doesn't make for a bad race. What made for a bad race this week was the car on the track, because they could have still made that race a great race if they had anything else to talk about. But. But when there's no passing going on, what else do you have to talk about?
[00:56:01] Speaker A: Yeah, Larson. The thing about that race is not Larson dominating. Instead, if you put Larson in 20th, he would. He wouldn't have got back to the league because he couldn't pass.
[00:56:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:11] Speaker A: It's the crane race, as we call it. Take the guy on 15th, put him in first. He's probably going to run first the whole time.
[00:56:16] Speaker B: And if you think we're wrong, just look back to Darlington. When Alex Bowman lost the lead, he never got it back.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: I just was about to say, like, darling, we didn't get to talk about it, but, like, I didn't really love Darlington, to be honest. Like, it was like, I made a post about Darlington before the race started, and I was like, the coolest thing about Darlington is, like, no matter what car, what era, whatever they put on that track, like, it always delivered. And it just, like, here. Again, I have no problem with Alex with William Byron dominating that race, but as soon as William Byron got put in traffic, he could not pass. Yep.
[00:56:51] Speaker B: And I mean it.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: That's the problem I have. And it's not a Darlington problem. It's a car problem. I love Darlington. It's, like, probably my favorite racetrack.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Oh, it's freaking awesome. And, I mean, it was a lot of fun to watch Ryan Blaney cut his way through the field and Almost wins every week.
[00:57:06] Speaker A: That Ryan Blaney can pass every week.
[00:57:07] Speaker B: Yeah, if it was he.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah. If his pit crew haven't. Has not screwed him, Ryan Blaney could have, like, no joke, like, five wins this year. He's the fastest car the. He can pass every single week. I saw a guy talking about being a Blaney fan. He was like, hell, I haven't noticed. Nobody could pass because every week I watch Blaney starts in the back or has something happen, and he passes everybody. And it's true. He has been able to pass it every single racetrack. Something. They. They have something figured out. He's the fastest car on the track every single week.
But his pit crews ranked 35th. Is that what we said?
[00:57:41] Speaker B: I think at that darlington, they were ranked 35th. I think they're ranked, like, 28th or something. They're like, overall rank is like, 28th or 25th.
[00:57:50] Speaker A: Yeah, you're not. You're not going to ever win when you lose 19 spots a day on pit road. I mean, ye.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: I'm just waiting on the day that they swap his pit crew out.
[00:57:58] Speaker A: I mean, first one got swapped out this morning.
[00:58:01] Speaker B: There we go. I mean, I never want to wish somebody's job away, don't get me wrong, because I know how hard those crew members work. They're badasses, and they do a hell of a job. Even losing six spots at a NASCAR Cup Series level, that's considered absolutely plum terrible. But I guarantee you, if you put them in a vacuum, they're going to impress you every single time that they go out there. So, I mean, yeah, it's not wanting to wish somebody's job away, but damn it, we've got to figure. They've got to figure something out there, because there's nothing worse for a Blaney fan than a caution coming out, because we know that we're about to lose some spots. It's just been. It's like clockwork, and it's been that way for seven years. They've got to do something there when.
[00:58:43] Speaker A: That's the. The only. That's the only downfall he's had all year. So that's. That's where the change is going to have to come from.
[00:58:51] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:58:51] Speaker A: You know, it just. I hate it, but he just. You just.
I really do think Blaney could have, like, four or five wins this year, man, if he didn't have this. These cautions and pit road problems.
[00:59:05] Speaker B: It's true. And his crew chief is doing a great job calling these races, too. I mean, that Whole strategy that he went on at Bristol, he was the only one that committed to it. And while it didn't work out for him, him. It made him look like an absolute genius, putting his driver in that position where he had the entire field lap. He's the only car on the lead lap. That's. I texted you, and I was like, I'm sure I probably have seen it somewhere, but I haven't seen that happen. I don't remember when I saw that ever. And it was awesome to watch it. And even after he does the entire strategy, it doesn't even lose him a spot. He entered that strategy in fifth and left the race in fifth.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:59:43] Speaker B: Genius.
[00:59:44] Speaker A: I don't know why, when there was no tire wear, more people didn't try to do stuff like that. I mean, zero tire wear.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
I. I don't know. That's a great question.
[00:59:54] Speaker A: Could have. I just don't. I just would have.
[00:59:57] Speaker B: Reddick held out. Reddick held out there with him for quite a while, but he. I mean, even then, Reddick pitted 35 laps before he did. So. Yeah, you're right. I mean, he was the only one that really took that hell of a chance. And I think it's a lot of confidence knowing that Ryan, just as you had just said, has been able to pass all year. So I think he's the one driver that had enough confidence from his crew chief and in himself that once he got onto that spot, he wouldn't be held up by very much lap traffic because he's always been good at passing.
[01:00:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:30] Speaker B: So that's just a benefit of being ranked number one as a driver every week.
[01:00:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
All right, so no cup race this week, going to Dega the following week, but I will say I am pumped to see these Xfinity and trucks run on Rockingham.
[01:00:52] Speaker B: I know, man. It's going to be such a blast from the past. I have never. I think we have watched the race that you're watching right now. We have one time, but, man, as many beers as we probably drank that night, I really don't remember much about it. So I cannot wait to see this track and have my personal introduction to it as a NASCAR fan getting to watch a live race on it. So I'm freaking stoked. It's going to be awesome.
[01:01:16] Speaker A: I remember. I remember. I was still. I was old enough still to remember, like, how I remember Casey Kane and the Matt Kenseth thing like it was yesterday. Because I. I've talked about it maybe on this podcast before, but I've Talked to you about it. Dude, when Casey Kane came on the map, dude, he was the hottest thing since sliced bread. I mean, dude came out his rookie year and was just kicking some ass.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Kicking ass and taking.
[01:01:38] Speaker A: And the dude has wins at Rocking, which is so cool that they're doing this at Rockingham, this whole thing with Casey Kane. But like the dude has wins. He almost won his first cup race at Rockingham, but he has wins in the Bush series and trucks in at Rockingham. So that's going to be awesome. He hasn't been in a cup car in like seven years or something. He hasn't been in a race car.
[01:02:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:04] Speaker A: In NASCAR in like seven years. He's been racing his, his, you know, dirt car.
But it's just going to be so fun. It's going to be awesome. And I think they did repave it. So it's not going to be the old wore out, slick like Darlington style Rockingham that we saw all back in the day.
So it's. That's going to be a little different. But, but man, I'm excited to watch that 33 major cars, Casey Kane car rip around there.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: Very first race I ever watch, he won it. So I'm going to be excited to watch him. And the other guy I've got my eye on is Justin Bonsignor. I think he can be one that goes out there and does really good. Seeing as all these guys in Xfinity have never been on Rockingham before, you're going to have a guy that's just a modified, basically modified legend in my mind. I don't know exactly how he ranks in all time modified drivers, but he. I know that he's a really good one and I think he could be someone that could figure out that kind of a track really quickly. And so I'm going to have my eye on him at least just to kind of have somebody to cheer for. That's a little bit different this week than normal since it's going to be an Xfinity and trucks only.
[01:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm just super excited. I still remember when the cup series quit going there and up until like I was in high school, the trucks and Xfinity still went there like some Larson. The last NASCAR race ever NASCAR sanctioned race ever ran at Rockingham was in 2013. Kyle Larson got his first ever NASCAR win.
[01:03:40] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Love it.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: So I'm excited. I'm just excited. It's cool. I heard Ben Kennedy say if this goes well, they're really going to talk about starting to put cup back there, which will just be awesome.
[01:03:55] Speaker B: That'd be the hottest.
[01:03:57] Speaker A: Already sold out. The, the truck race is almost sold out. So.
Yeah, I just, I mean, I knew people were going to show up. People. People love that stuff, you know, and that was, that's the, that's some. That's the tracks that got us to where we're at. Yeah. That we should have never left anyway.
[01:04:14] Speaker B: To give NASCAR props. In one way, they did listen to the fans about wanting to get back to what we used to be. And they're putting North Wilkesboro back on. They're putting Rockingham back on. They're in an eternal battle to get the Nashville fairgrounds back on the schedule in some way, shape or form. I just. There's certain things that they are doing that are working out great for the old school fans that really want to see what they used to see. So we're, we're getting there in steps. So I don't want to just shit on NASCAR and not give them their props when they deserve them. But, but this is a, this is a really good move and I'm glad that they're doing it.
[01:04:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it's going to be fun. So.
[01:04:53] Speaker B: So should we just go ahead and like make up a fake trophy for Kyle Larson to have for the cup race? That's not happening. Just go ahead and give him a first place trophy for that. Like, ah, you would have probably wanted. Anyway. Screw it. Here you go.
[01:05:04] Speaker A: Vacation. Vacation trophy.
[01:05:07] Speaker B: Vacation trophy. Oh, man, I love it. Well, man, I want to hear what. I want to hear what you got. What's your hack of the week this week?
I already know exactly which one mine's gonna be.
[01:05:23] Speaker A: Dude, I don't know.
[01:05:26] Speaker B: I know it's with your driver dominating and really not a whole lot of craziness going down. I mean, that was the most green flag Bristol I've seen in a long time.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: I'll tell you something that pissed me off.
I love it. This comes to mind because I post about it on Twitter. I don't know if this makes it like I'm going to call. Yeah, I'm going to call this my hack of the week because I posted about it on Twitter, but. And then me and my dad had a conversation about it later. This was in the Xfinity series race.
Justin Algar. Now, I know we're in the race and everybody's mad and hot headed and all this, but if you saw the caution or the, or the wreck that this happened, Justin Allgaier is on the top of the track and he swerves down completely into this guy.
[01:06:10] Speaker B: I don't even know.
No, I'm not.
[01:06:13] Speaker A: No. This kid's name was Mason.
[01:06:15] Speaker B: Mason Massey, I think.
[01:06:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I saw his response on Twitter.
[01:06:20] Speaker B: I loved it.
[01:06:23] Speaker A: I'm on his side.
I posted what I posted on Twitter way before I saw his response. But it's like that kid was hucking, hugging the yellow line and the seven just cuts him off. I don't know what the seven was doing. I mean, I heard I should have.
Well, there was a car there, so I don't know. He just knocked the out of him and then blamed it on him. Yeah, on the guy. And I was like, what? What?
[01:06:50] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:06:50] Speaker A: It was mind blowing.
[01:06:51] Speaker B: It would be one thing if he was washing up the track like on an early exit. And I mean, he didn't have any. Like, he hit him so hard in the front. He had nowhere to go. Like, his front end could only go to the apron. He was so close to the bottom of the track.
[01:07:06] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's my. That's my hack of the week. One, for doing it and two, blaming it on the guy after you just came down three lanes just right on the top of his hood.
[01:07:15] Speaker B: That's one of the times as a spotter be like, well, man, I'm not gonna lie. That one looked like it was kind of on you.
[01:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So that's my hack of the week.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: So I love it. Mine's not racing related, but it does involve a motor. I. My hack of the week goes to the guy that sold me this lawnmower off of Facebook Marketplace place. Oh, last Saturday I got this mower. We, we've been needing one because the steering's gone out on our old one. I'd already changed it out. I wasn't going to do it again. It's too much work. So we were just going to get a new zero turn mower. Found a Dixon. She loves the brand. Her dad used to work on it. I was like, heck, yeah, he can help me out. If it ever. If anything ever goes wrong, he can help me out. Well, lo and freaking behold, I make one lap around the property and it threw a rod, broke down complete NASCAR style. Piston just exploded. The piston ring at the bottom was in three different pieces and the crankshaft was all laid up. So I broke it all the way down to there. And I was like, I'll just rebuild it if I have to. And come to find out, damn crankshafts have been discontinued. So now I've got to order a whole new motor. And so I just got that in and actually it showed up right before we started this podcast. So that's actually what I'm about to have to go do is, is put this new motor on this lawnmower. But to the guy that sold me a zero turn lawnmower that had exactly 30 minutes left on the engine before it was gonna go, he gets my hack of the week this week.
[01:08:39] Speaker A: What an. What? Just a of a guy.
[01:08:42] Speaker B: I can't prove that he knew that that was gonna happen, but I also can't help but feel like he had a pretty damn good idea.
[01:08:51] Speaker A: I told you. I was like, you're giving this guy way too much the benefit of the doubt, dog. Like, it's. This guy can kiss my ass. The way I look at it, man.
[01:09:00] Speaker B: What are you gonna do about it? You're gonna cry about it or you're gonna fix it? And so we're just gonna buck up and fix it and tie some gasoline around our ankles so no ants eat my candy ass. Yeah, here's what it is, man. Can't win them all, but you sure can lose some in a fucking grand fashion. And.
[01:09:19] Speaker A: Yep. All right, so no Fantasy Picks this week, mom. Watch the Xfinity race Saturday.
[01:09:26] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:09:26] Speaker A: Have fun.
[01:09:27] Speaker B: Enjoy it.
[01:09:28] Speaker A: I believe that's it for us. I'm gonna go Back to Got 292 laps to go, my race here, and I'm gonna get these diecasts up on the wall.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[01:09:38] Speaker A: Well, thank y'all for listening. It's been a. It's been a unfortunate last couple weeks for all of us, but we're back at it now, so.
[01:09:48] Speaker B: Heck, yeah. I didn't know if you wanted to talk through, but.
[01:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not going to talk about it. But just, you know, if you follow me on social media, you've seen everything that went down here in the last couple weeks and.
Yeah, just had to take a couple weeks off to just. I've just been busy and then, you know, weeks worth of rehearsals with Travis and everybody. First run going back out this week. Weeks, you know, rotten a couple days a week. It's just, you know, been busy, so it just is what it is. So hopefully we'll be back Monday. We might do one next week after the Xfinity.
[01:10:23] Speaker B: Oh, I definitely want to because we're gonna have a lot to talk about. For sure.
[01:10:27] Speaker A: We'll do one next week and then we'll be back rocking after Talladega. There's not an off weekend again till the end of the year, so. Yeah, a Lot of NASCAR coming.
[01:10:34] Speaker B: I love it, man. I live for that. And yeah, it's been good being back with the Trick crew, being back at it again.
Definitely getting my butt kicked at merch because there's no more physical job than lifting freaking 108 T shirts in a box over your head into the loft of the trailer over and over and over again. So there's, there's definitely a whole lot of workouts in my future, for sure. Got to get back into working shape now, but now thank y'all for listening and making it this far. Hope y'all enjoyed the deep dive on Diecast we got going down too, because that was a lot of fun. But y'all, you can find us all at Raised Rowdy, racing all across Twitter and Instagram and TikTok and you'll see us posting a lot. I'm under Caleb Conrady across all, all the board.
I'll let you hit yours.
[01:11:24] Speaker A: I am Dawson Average music across the board. Sorry, I was watching the trips getting into it. Dawson Edwards, music across the board. Had a song come out a couple weeks ago. Got another one coming out here in a few weeks. Caleb, you had a song come out? Yes, days ago.
[01:11:39] Speaker B: If I had a dollar that you wrote on with me, you and Maxwell and Matt McKinney all wrote that one back in 2020. I looked it up.
[01:11:47] Speaker A: Matt McKinney just called me. Someone call him back when we get done here.
[01:11:50] Speaker B: Heck yeah. Well, y'all, everybody, thank y'all so much for listening. Check out us every single week sometime between Monday and Thursday. We're not consistent on the time, but we're consistent on the schedule. And outside of that, y'all, if you feel free to find Dawson on all of his social media platforms, send him dms, ask him for his address. He has a woeful lack of Jeff Gordon cars and we need a lot more rainbow in that room. So if everybody could just pitch in and send him one of your 164s you got hiding around, it would be awesome. Too much Earnhardt, not enough Gordon. We got to get him violence out here. Here we go. He's showing off his 24 Dupont car from back in the day. He's got at least one of them, but that car is looking awful lonely. We're going to need more over there. So y'all go ahead and ask him for that. Get it all sent over to him and we'll catch you all next week.
[01:12:39] Speaker A: See y' I don't drive a Monte Carlo and my truck ain't painted black. It Ain't got a big white number three turning left around a track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can't handle dirt don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic.
[01:13:16] Speaker B: Till I make it to your door.
[01:13:20] Speaker A: Checkers, wreckers my rifles hammered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl Earn hard, fast.
