Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is raise rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Good morning, beautiful people.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: What up, what up, what up, what.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: Up, what up, what up?
From our homes after two weeks.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Yeah, finally. Finally back home. Man, I'm so tired, I'm so exhausted, and I'm so happy to be back home. It's unbelievable.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy. We were gone for a long time.
[00:00:31] Speaker C: And had a lot going on yesterday.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Didn't get a chance to do the podcast. Today's Tuesday, but yesterday was our Sunday. We got home Sunday.
Yeah, I got to watch most of the race at the house.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: I had to watch it back the next morning because driving all the way home and then went over to Maxwell's house to see everybody. Hadn't seen anybody for two weeks, so I was starved for seeing people I don't work with for once. So I went straight over to Maxwell. So I watched it yesterday morning, had a good time with it, but, yeah, saw everybody.
[00:01:09] Speaker C: Matt McKinney and Trey Lewis and Joy Beth and Chelsea.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: Was everybody there? Yeah, the whole crew was there.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: Hell, yeah.
[00:01:16] Speaker A: It was damn good time. So we enjoyed ourselves. He had a big projector screen set up in the backyard. And so we were watching the Raiders Steelers game in the backyard.
[00:01:27] Speaker C: Watching the Steelers WHOOP some ass. I had a bet on the Steelers to win that game, and they did.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Good call.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: I would not have bet on the Steelers to win that game, which is why I don't win money betting. I never pick the winners.
[00:01:38] Speaker C: Dude, I'll notice that, right?
[00:01:41] Speaker A: I don't know what's going on. My luck. I've been terrible with betting.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: I love, love, love how we had a betting podcast last week, and not.
[00:01:49] Speaker C: One of those bets hit.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: None of yours hit either.
[00:01:53] Speaker C: Not a single one.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:01:55] Speaker C: Neither did mine.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Let's start out with so many bets without those last couple of cautions. Dude, I had so many bets.
[00:02:07] Speaker C: I would say, like, 80% of everything.
[00:02:09] Speaker B: I put down was hitting McDowell top five, which was like, plus 500. You got Larson leading. Had that. You had Busher and Kez. I had those in the top five. And my parlays got screwed because I had a Gibbs parlay beating someone. He got wrecked.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: That had a dumbass shit happen.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: Or not Gibbs. Gibbs on one, which screwed that parlay up. And then I had bush beating someone on a parlay, which obviously, that didn't happen, but my actual picks for the race, like, out of the ones, dude.
[00:02:38] Speaker C: I had, like I said, brad, busher.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Larson, and McDowell, which would have been.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: Like, over a $100 with those four hits, right?
[00:02:50] Speaker B: So I came so close.
Dylan, my brother in law, he texted me.
[00:02:57] Speaker C: He was like, he's big into racing.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Now because of this podcast and because of just all of us hanging out and stuff.
[00:03:05] Speaker C: And he reminds me of you learning.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Racing for the first time, like, when you first started learning racing, like, picking up on it very fast, but still learning some stuff here and there. Yeah.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: Still going to say that don't make any sense.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: He texted me. He was like, we were talking about those bets, and I was like, dude, I was like, I just got so screwed at the end on those cautions, man. I think that's only the second race all year. I'm almost 100% positive it's only the second race all year that nothing hit. And the first race that happened, like, nothing hit all day. So it was like, whatever.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: This was kind of sucked because I.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: Had so many things hitting, and then, boom, not hitting. So I was like, man, that sucks.
[00:03:45] Speaker C: Right at the end there, man.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: I'll tell you what was funny is the text I sent you yesterday when I was watching the race because I knew I didn't hit any bets, but I didn't know why I didn't hit any bets because I'd looked at draftkings just quick enough to see my edge count balance. I didn't want to ruin the race for myself. So yesterday morning, as I'm watching the race, I don't even know who won it. I don't know who ran where. I don't know how. Well, my guy, your guy, or Allison's guy did. I knew nothing about the race. I was going into it completely blind. The only thing I knew is that you had said Blaney and Larson kind of got fucked. But I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know if that meant wrecked out or nothing. I was totally blind. Like I said, you weren't watching.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Or those. Both of those happened at the end of the race. Yeah, they both happened.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: I'm telling you, man, we did a whole betting podcast just like you said, and not a single one of them hit. But what's even funnier is that text message I sent to you after the race was done on my end where I said, out of all, I bet on the five, the twelve, the eleven, the 45, the three, the eight, and the 54. All, whatever number that is, was that seven guys that I bet on. Every single one of them was in an accident in some way, shape or form that either put them out of the race because the five to twelve.
[00:05:02] Speaker C: The 45 to three.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: I'm sorry, the five to twelve, the three, the eight and the 54 were all out of the race by the end of it due to an accident of some sort. Then the eleven and the 45 both had their own issues. The only three dudes that I placed bets on that didn't have issues and still didn't cover were the 34, the 22 and the six. The six on one of those last few restarts got shuffled onto the outside of turn one and then fell like 18 positions back. So I was like, well, there goes that one. Then the 34 did the same thing. There goes that one. And the 22 just ran like dog ass all day long and he wasn't going to happen.
I just have never seen something fall apart so fast in my entire life. That just tells you how hard it is to bet on NASCAR, because every one of those guys was running top ten at some point, except for Legano and covering their bets, they were all doing it at one point. They all wrecked out at some point. How do you predict that? I mean, if you want to call someone to have an accident, if there's a bet out there or something, look at my bet slip and just place it on any of those guys, because.
[00:06:09] Speaker C: Those guys are going to be the ones that wreck.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it just cracked me up. I just felt the same way. I was like, but it was so funny, though, because the podcast was so spot on, actually. Like, all the people we talked about ran top ten. The people we said were going to be fast were fast. Eric Jones, he was a top two car. At one point, they thought he was the fastest. He was better than everyone else.
[00:06:34] Speaker A: But.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: I was just like, wow, I.
[00:06:39] Speaker C: Just couldn't believe that.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: It's so funny. Two races at Texas in a row. One that sets the record for the number of cautions, and then the very next one, everyone that's running fast all.
[00:06:50] Speaker C: Gets taken out in a different wreck.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: I don't know what it is about Texas.
[00:06:54] Speaker B: I mean, on the broadcast, it's like Texas has been kind of a wild card here recently.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: It has been, which is shocking. I guess it's just next gen car at a mile and a half kind.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Of mean, which is cool, but they just can't pass great at Texas because.
[00:07:10] Speaker C: That one lane, it cracks me up.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: You talk about being in the marbles. Like the marbles at a racetrack since the beginning of time are up against the wall, out of the groove, up against the wall at Texas. You could be 30 foot from the wall and you're in the marbles and it is just the oddest thing, dude. We saw the seven car in the bush race, the eight car, the six car, the 34 car, any car, you go wide in turn one, dude, it takes your car five laps to get.
[00:07:37] Speaker C: It figured back out.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: It does, because you got to clean off that tire.
[00:07:42] Speaker C: Oh, man.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: He had the seven thinking. The seven that they talked about. He didn't run the right the rest of the race in the bush race.
[00:07:50] Speaker C: And then the eight. Who knows?
[00:07:52] Speaker B: I never even actually heard what exactly happened to the eight. Obviously, something was way wrong for Kyle Bush. And even like that, he was like.
[00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. It just turned around on me.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: It all started with him getting out of the groove up there, and then it just went haywire from there. And, I mean, he had so much stuff on his tires.
[00:08:10] Speaker C: He was, like, saying he had the.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Characteristics of a flat tire.
I just blows my mind.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: That's unbelievable, the fact that you can make someone as talented as Kyle Bush.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: Think he has a flat tire when he doesn't.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: That's amazing how much marbling got on that damn tire and be right.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: I mean, it's hair out of line. I mean, not even, like, a full car length, really.
That's how Narrow the groove is at Texas in turns one and two.
[00:08:38] Speaker C: And, I don't know, it's just still not the mile and a half that.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: The other mile and a half are right now.
[00:08:45] Speaker C: No, because of that one single groove. Yeah.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: You can't go up. You can't make an alternate kind of racing line. It is weird, though, that now it's starting to get to where taking somebody in the outside of the exit of two is becoming your passing zone. That's something you don't really see a whole lot where you're both running super low on the racetrack, and you just take that excess momentum and sling it around them. When you're only a groove higher than them, you see it happen a lot. Whenever somebody's up running the wall at, like, a Kansas, you'll see way the hell away from each other. But to see people running almost side by side, and then that outside line just gets that extra bit of momentum on the exit. That was wild to me, that your only offside would be the one taking.
[00:09:32] Speaker C: The lead every time. Yeah.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: And then wasn't the leader most of the time. Picking the outside lane in the restarts.
[00:09:40] Speaker C: Too, a lot of the times.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: And then Bubba would a lot of times take the inside lane. I think he just wanted to kind of play it a little bit safer after the whole Kyle Larson incident, but other than pretty, a lot ended up not working exit.
[00:09:53] Speaker C: No, it didn't. Definitely not.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: That was a wild race for him. I mean, if you want to focus on him for a second, getting the.
[00:10:01] Speaker C: Pole to begin with and then taking.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: It off and running, I mean, he.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Ran top rear lap three all day.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: It was an impressive run for him. I got to give him credit because everything that was coming to him, he had a lot of doubt in himself.
[00:10:16] Speaker C: He had a lot of doubt from.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: People like us, even. I mean, we didn't really see it coming. And he goes out there and he runs great.
[00:10:23] Speaker C: I mean, he had a chance to win the race.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: I think the thing he's going to take away most is going to be his disappointment. Not taking the outside line again.
I can't remember who it was specifically. I want to say it was Steve Latarte said, you know what, he's probably trying to give the guy on the inside the benefit of the doubt. Like, I don't want the same thing to happen. I just want to get the lead clean. And Steve's like, I don't care about the guy on the inside. Yeah, I don't care about him. If Larson wants to run me that close and take the air off of his car, then that is what it is. It turned into a wreck for him, but you survived it. Good for you. Go do it again.
I think he's still got some learning to do. I mean, he's got to learn that being aggressive is okay.
I think he takes it to heart. Whenever he does intentionally wreck somebody and causes a huge issue and everybody gets onto him, I think he really takes it to heart. And then he never wants to start another accident ever again and feels too bad for, it's like, dude, sometimes shit happens and the other guy's got to be okay with the fact that, well, stuff happened and you came out okay.
Yeah, I think that's the only reason he didn't win was a lack of.
[00:11:28] Speaker C: Confidence there at the very end.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: It's one of those I've always heard, I always heard drivers and announcers and.
[00:11:35] Speaker C: Stuff talk about this, but the positions.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Like one, two, and three, they race different than the rest of the top ten, and then the top ten races a lot different than 11th through 20th and then 20th through 30th. So on races different than the guys.
[00:11:50] Speaker C: In front of them, when you're used.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: To racing, say you're a guy like Kyle Larson, Denny Hamlin, whatever.
[00:11:57] Speaker C: When you're used to racing basically top.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: Five all the time, you're used to racing those guys, the way they race, the way it's ran in that section of positions, and so if they're back in 20th or something and they're getting ran, however way they complain or get mad or don't know how to do it, whatever, it sounds dumb, but it's true. And then the same way with Bubba.
[00:12:24] Speaker C: Almost like he doesn't have a ton.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: Of experience starting on the. I can't think of a lot of many times Bubba started.
[00:12:36] Speaker C: Front row, excuse.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: Me, front row on a final restart like that, when all the pressure is on, he's in charge of coming off, he's in charge of starting the race, stuff like that. So he just has no experience racing in that position.
[00:12:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: And that's all fair. I mean, you got to earn it. And this is a great example of.
[00:12:56] Speaker C: Maybe you didn't win the race, but.
[00:12:59] Speaker A: You didn't wreck, you didn't do anything dumb, you still finished in the top three.
You had a great point stay. That's going to help you out, push you way above that cut line. Look how many playoff drivers had issues today, and look how good of a job you did.
Well, it's going to help him get there. At the end of the day, I haven't looked at playoffs. That's how drastically that's going to help. Yeah.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Right now, how going crazy it is.
[00:13:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: Because I'm looking at the points right now. He is below the cut line when he's in first, obviously, he's in the advanced thing. That's what we talked about a couple of podcasts ago, like the way the points are running, but as soon as.
[00:13:32] Speaker C: He'S in second, he's already, boom, he.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: Goes from first to out of it, and then when he gets to third, it puts him two points mine. You know what?
[00:13:40] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Crazy.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: I'd take two points out then. And the fact that Kyle Larson's still above the cut line, having gotten eliminated from the end of the race.
[00:13:49] Speaker C: I mean, it's so true.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: These races, you have to run them all. You have to run them all well, and you've got to be consistent. And that's one thing that Buba did great, that the Larsons and the Blaney's and the Kyle bushes didn't do. They didn't finish the race or they didn't run well. So now all of a sudden, here you go. The cut line is within 17 points all the way from 6th down to twelveth. So anybody, it's anybody's race at this point.
[00:14:14] Speaker C: You got two more wild card races.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: Coming from a Kyle Larson fan here. The next two weeks are about to be nerve wracking because my man does not run at all. Quote, straight from Steve Latart's book, Kyle Larson has spent more times in the infield care center than he has running laps or stricter plate tracks. And that is just a true statement.
And then the don't. Kyle is a good road course racer, but he is not a good roval racer and he'll tell you that, too. He usually finds himself in a bad way at the Roval.
[00:14:47] Speaker C: So, man, the next two weeks coming.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: Off underneath him, too.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: Bush.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Going into two tracks that he's not good at. You got Buba and Blaney, who are going to run great at Talladega barring getting taken out. And you got Reddick and Kyle Bush, who will probably at least run fairly good, if not just at least consistently at the road course.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: At the a.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: You got four dangerous guys going to tracks they're good at.
[00:15:16] Speaker C: Right beneath you, I could see Reddick winning the robo. I'm not going to lie.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: I'm already putting that into existence. He's my dead on pick for the crazy.
[00:15:28] Speaker C: His success at know.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: I definitely think Buba and Blaney are great at Talladega because they are. But also, Talladega is such a wild card, man. Holy shit. You never know.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: I know.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: It makes sense. Speaking of Dega, we will be there this weekend. Heck, yeah. Me and Caleb and Lindsay and Allison, we will all be down and around the pits in the garage on Sunday, doing all the things.
[00:15:54] Speaker C: So if you are in Talladega, hit us up.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Let's hang out, let's talk racing.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Can't wait to watch an actual Talladega race this time. Last time we were at Talladega was the time that Blaney won.
Yeah, he spun out coming off a turn four trying to go into the pits in stage one. And that's where I had to end it. And I had to go home because it was rain delayed and had to leave, go home and then watch Blaney come back and win the race from work that day. And I've never been more disappointed in my life. So maybe this will be the time where I get to show up to Talladega, watch the whole race, and Blaney.
[00:16:33] Speaker C: Ends up somehow coming out and winning it. I would shit my pants.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah. It's the greatest feeling in the world is going to a race and watching your guy you're cheering for win. And I didn't have a chance to do that at all as a kid I went to so many races and never saw Dale Jr. Or Mark Martin or Carl Ebridge win a race.
But I've seen Larson win a couple of times now. I've seen win, you know, stuff like that. So it is the greatest feeling in the world. The guy you're cheering for wins a know.
[00:17:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: You know what the worst feeling in the world is? Showing up to Bristol two times in a row and Kyle Busch winning them both.
[00:17:12] Speaker C: Hell, every time.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Been to Bristol?
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Terrible, right?
[00:17:15] Speaker B: Both times.
[00:17:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Two times I've been to Bristol. Kyle Bush won each.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: Oh, see, I thought you've been to Bristol more than twice. I tell people all the time, every time you go, which is still true, but every time caleb goes to Bristol, Bush wins.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: Kyle Bush wins.
[00:17:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: Maybe I should have gone this year because it would have been the one year I could have said I have no confidence in Kyle Bush winning this race, so maybe I'll finally able to see somebody else win it.
Things I wish would have happened, but.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: It is what it is.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Come say hi to the day. That's what we're trying to say.
[00:17:47] Speaker B: We'll be in and around the six and 17 pits. Thank you. Shout out Brandon.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: I think they're going to run great there, too. So watch out. 1712 and 23.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Might as well put winning bets on.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: The six and 17. Yeah.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: And after the momentum of last week, the 23 is not a bad pick. And the twelve, of course, if you're at a restrictor plate track, Denny Hamlin, Ryan Blanny are the two guys that come to mind all the time as being phenomenal. Hamlin, Daytona.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: Yeah, but he hasn't done it in.
[00:18:18] Speaker C: The next gen car, has he?
[00:18:20] Speaker A: I don't think so, but he's gotten.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: He talks about it on his podcast all the like.
[00:18:26] Speaker C: I think the plate racing, what made.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Him good at plate racing really played into that other car.
[00:18:32] Speaker C: But his strengths at plate racing, he.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Can'T capitalize on them in this car as well. Like getting through the field, I mean, is what he talks about.
[00:18:42] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know.
Hamlin doesn't. Don't get me wrong, he's one of.
[00:18:47] Speaker B: The greatest plate racers, but he is nowhere near as dangerous as he was.
[00:18:52] Speaker C: It's true.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: But, man, I'm still not going to count him out. I'm trying to find out what his last few.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: I'm not going to put a bet on old ham lamb this week.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: Oh, Hamil Lamb.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Hammy lamb.
[00:19:06] Speaker C: So the eleven car finished in the.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Last few restrictor plate races going back.
[00:19:13] Speaker C: To, let's say, going back to.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: When did the next gen car get released? 2021. Going back to 2021.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: You're very right. 26.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: We started last year.
[00:19:27] Speaker C: This is just the second year in it.
Yeah.
[00:19:31] Speaker A: 26, 17th, 5th, 25th, 18th, 37th, 7th, 13th.
[00:19:37] Speaker C: And the list goes on.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: He has not won in this next gen car. You're very right. And the funny thing is, I just always consider him as one of the super speedway guys.
I guess I'm just holding on to old feelings about it, but I still ain't counting him out. I think if they can just make this car a little bit more maneuverable on a super speedway to where you don't have to just ride right behind somebody and get in line, he'd be fine.
[00:20:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
Like I said, I'm not going to.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Put a bet on him just because you just rattled off all those. I only heard one in the top ten as a 7th. So I'm just not in on the Denny Hamlin train anymore at plate races.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: But I feel you.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: I say that he'll go out and win this weekend while we're there, just because.
[00:20:17] Speaker C: Back to Texas, though, I wanted to say one thing.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: I thought this was funny. I always like to bring up Jeff.
[00:20:22] Speaker C: Glucks poll, but the race got a.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: 59.5 for a good race, which is awful.
But that's the fourth best Texas race.
[00:20:33] Speaker C: Ever polled, and Texas has never had.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: A race that has gotten over 70%.
[00:20:39] Speaker C: Yes. Oof.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: There's a reason the stands are empty at Texas Motor Speedway. We need desperately for something different to happen there. I don't know if it's a repave. I don't know what the fuck it looks like, but I need to do something.
[00:20:53] Speaker C: I can't remember who said this at.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: What point last year, year before last, but it was the conversation, talking about how great the next gen car runs at mile and a. And, uh, they were going to Texas for the first time. And like I said, I can't remember who said this, but they were like, if the next gen car can't make Texas good, then Texas is just a man. Like, it just is.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: And the reason yesterday or Sunday was.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: Entertaining, quote unquote, is because there's always something going on.
There was comers and goers. There's tires blown. There was natural cautions. Yes, there was always something going on. But if a car got out front, no matter who it was, they could stay out front. And that is not a good thing. It never has been. It never will be.
You could take a car that's running.
[00:21:49] Speaker C: 20Th, which we did with Reddick and.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: Put it up front, and it wins a stage. And then you put it back where it was in traffic, and it does not run.
[00:21:58] Speaker C: It can't go anywhere. And it's just arrow and one lane.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: It's mainly shifting into turn one.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's mainly the one lane thing, man, these mile and a half in the next gen. If the cars work so good at racetracks where they can move around and move up lanes and stuff and find places here, find some speed here. You can't do that at Texas. When you move up five foot and you're in know, flat tire in it like we just talked about, marbled end up.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: Eventually, they do end up finding one extra groove in turns three and four. Or maybe they'll be able to make a pass on the outside of turn one.
They can get stuff like that.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: They got to be so close. Just like in the Larson Bubba thing, you pretty much had both of those.
[00:22:53] Speaker C: Cars in one set of lanes. You know what mean.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's true. And they can find those extra lanes, but those extra lanes really aren't enough to really make anything crazy happen. And you're very right. I mean, as soon as you even slightly step a foot outside of where that lane is, suddenly you're spinning and you're wrecking ass end into the wall in some of the most brutal fashions, too. I mean, thank goodness they've done work on this next gen car and made the ass end of it a little less sturdy, because Kyle Bush would have been out for a concussion protocol if.
[00:23:27] Speaker C: This was last year, and he hit like that.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: Bush and Larson, they hit very similarly, and they did. They were hard hits. And I agree with you.
They brought it up on the broadcast, and I remember it last year, like, the 48 wrecked like hell last year. Said it was the hardest hit he'd ever had in the back end of the car. Had some scratch marks on it, but it wasn't even messed up. And it's just for the most part.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: It was in the same shape.
[00:23:51] Speaker C: Yeah, he finished the race.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: To the eye test.
[00:23:57] Speaker C: You're like, what?
[00:23:58] Speaker B: That's the hardest hit of his career.
[00:24:00] Speaker C: Like, how is that the hardest hit of his career? And it is good to see the.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Car crush like it's supposed.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:24:11] Speaker B: Front and back. We've seen that with Blaney at Daytona and Nashville. I've heard him talk about it specifically because he had two front end on licks, and then just use this weekend with the eight and the five two back end licks the car is visibly crushing more since they made those adjustments after that.
It was Talladega earlier this year when the five and the 41 hit so hard. They made a lot of adjustments and brought that into Atlanta. So since Atlanta this past July, or.
[00:24:43] Speaker C: Whenever that race was, their wrecks have looked like they're crushing like they're supposed to.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: Yeah, no doubt about it. Which, thank goodness, they've been putting that work in. It needed to happen, especially at racetracks like Texas, where if you're going direct, it's going to be as far down on the inside as possible. So your car has all the time in the world to do whatever it's going to do before it hits the wall. And that's what I was thinking about the outside of turn one and two. It's almost at Texas. It's kind of funny. It's basically just runoff room. That's all it is, is if you're having an issue, you at least have somewhere to go before the wall finds.
That's all it is. I mean, if you're trying to run any sort of race up there, you.
[00:25:20] Speaker C: Are in for a ride.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: Like the old Richard Petty quote from back in the days, why do you run the outside lane? He's like, when you blow a tire.
[00:25:28] Speaker C: It don't hurt as bad.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. I mean, at least you're just slapping the wall and you're going to ride it around Chastain style. But, yeah, man, that's about as bad.
[00:25:37] Speaker C: As it going to get.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: Speaking of Chastain, odd amount of speed in that car yesterday.
[00:25:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Something we haven't had out of Chastain in a long while. And I texted you yesterday and said it's something about these one groove, low lane, concrete style, low banked racetracks like Nashville and Texas. I mean, they're banked plenty, but the lower amount of banking, the fewer grooves, the better that trackhouse and Chastain are going to run. And especially if it's hot as shit like Nashville always is and Texas always is. I don't know what it is about that, but it just agrees with him.
[00:26:17] Speaker C: And it proved it yesterday what he could make happen.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a great point.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Like finished in second.
[00:26:25] Speaker C: It's just unbelievable.
[00:26:27] Speaker B: It's a great point.
If that's their strength, though, you got two chances a year to make it happen.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Exactly. It's like being super speedway and nothing else. It's like, all right, that's cool and all, but you best hope that those.
[00:26:41] Speaker C: Super speedways go perfectly for you.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Yeah, and I never really thought to compare Texas and Nashville, but I do see what you mean on the similarity, especially in turn one. That one down at the bottom, that one groove with it being, do I see the similarities in turn one? I never would have thought of.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Ring my ass out and tell me how different they are. For sure. Just looking at the way in which it has to be run and the fact that they're both hot and slick and the fact that they're all one groove, they are somewhat similar.
[00:27:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: And like I said, I never would have thought of that. But I see what you're saying.
[00:27:17] Speaker C: But.
[00:27:22] Speaker B: I don't know.
The track house one car thing is.
[00:27:26] Speaker C: So confusing to me right now.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: I've talked.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: You and everybody else.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
They talked about on the broadcast on Sunday.
It's so inconsistent. And it was all here, or it's just been terrible. There's been no in between. You got teams like Shr that's just.
[00:27:51] Speaker C: Pretty much always running in the back.
[00:27:53] Speaker B: But then you have teams like, you have a team like Gibbs or Hendrick that's always running in the front.
How rare is it to have a.
[00:28:00] Speaker C: Car to do as well as they did?
[00:28:04] Speaker B: Lead the points for a lot of the year, do as well as he did, and then just at the flip of a switch, he starts running in.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: The low 20s, high 30s, barely making cuts. Yeah, I don't really recall that happening ever.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: I can't think of a time when a guy ran so good and so bad in the same season and it still becomes inconsistent.
[00:28:28] Speaker C: Like, just like this week.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Almost wins the race.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'll give it to him. They ran up front all day. There's been two races this year where he has ran like absolute ass. Low 20s, high 30s in strategy and cautions fell right. And he ends up finishing top five. So I'll give it to him on that, too. That's how he got out of the round, of first round, anyway.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:28:48] Speaker C: Him.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: And somehow managed to do that.
[00:28:51] Speaker C: It's crazy to me. It really is.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: I agree with you, man. He's proven that he can drive.
[00:28:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:57] Speaker A: He just hasn't proven that he can drive consistently throughout the year.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: He's proven he can drive. He just has proven he's not a consistent winner. And it's because they said this the other day, too. It's because he is so. And he's working on this and he is. But it's like he would wreck a.
[00:29:16] Speaker C: Fifth place car trying to win, and.
[00:29:19] Speaker B: You just can't do that and expect to excel, especially in cup racing. Now, if you want to dive, why he did probably so great in trucks and stuff like dive bomb it, do crazy stuff. That's why it worked in the lower series. But in cup, if you have a fifth place car, fight for fourth, you know what I'm saying?
[00:29:39] Speaker C: Don't wreck your day.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: Going for a win in a fifth place car and finishing 36. It's just not worth nothing's worse. Yeah, that was the exact terminology they used. And he's figuring that out.
He never led yesterday, never was, just the dominant car, but he was in that second to fourth place. And look, that's where he finished. Hey, I'd pat him on the back and be like, thank you for not destroying my car and somebody else's car. Justin Mark's a little bit time there. He was like, I'm tired of having every owner in the garage up. My.
[00:30:20] Speaker A: Hamlin, of all people, is giving him compliments, saying he's learning how to race smart and learning where to put his car.
Man, that's well done, Chastain. He took the lessons. He learned them. Now let's go out of second more. Let's go out and win a race here and there and run in the top five all day long. Don't go out there and race 30th.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: Because if you run in the top.
[00:30:44] Speaker C: Five consistently, wins will come, things will.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: Happen and wins will come. But if you are wrecking with two restarts less in the race because you just dive bomb the fuck out of the five car, the eleven car, whoever, then you're going to end up on the record.
He'll get it. He's figuring it out. And where he finished yesterday is where he ran.
[00:31:07] Speaker C: That's where that car should have finished, in my opinion. Yeah, it's true.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: So I'm happy for him. Good day. That's what you needed.
[00:31:15] Speaker C: That's what you needed to see.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: It is if he can go out there consistently, do that. Just remember, Matt Crafton won a truck series championship without ever winning a race.
[00:31:23] Speaker C: So it's possible even in this current format.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: I don't know how possible it is in the cup series, though.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: I just mean in terms of if you can run consistently, you can make it far in this playoff format, but.
[00:31:35] Speaker C: If you're wrecking every other week, it's.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Going to really hurt you and you're not going to be able to finish it well, just think if he did.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: Wreck every week, how many bonus points and how high he led the points for a fat chunk of the season.
So if he could have just kept.
[00:31:53] Speaker C: That up, then this year could have.
[00:31:56] Speaker B: Looked a lot different. He made the final four last year and they're doing nothing but getting better at track house. I mean, signing Anheuser Bush, props to him, that's absolutely incredible.
[00:32:07] Speaker C: And they are going to be rocking and rolling.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: They're signing Zane Smith, they're signing SVG.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: Probably on the hot seats.
[00:32:18] Speaker B: And they're making great business decision moves.
[00:32:21] Speaker C: There's no payday.
[00:32:23] Speaker B: Drivers with Justin Marks, they're all guys with talent and that sponsor, they are attracting sponsors on their own. You know, what with, with Chastain attracting Anheuser Bush like. And at this point, who doesn't want to be on SVG's car? I mean, hell yeah.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: If you're not wanting to be on that car, I don't know what to tell you.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Exactly. So he's got everybody on his side too. So they're just attracting. They're doing it the right way in my opinion. I wish every team could do it. I know they can't, but I wish every team could do what they do and do like they're doing.
[00:32:57] Speaker C: It'd be so cool.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: But you got too many builder teams that are still stuck in. They're not stuck in, but they're doing what they always have done and they're not going to change that anytime soon. So I love what they're doing is really coming in and shaking up the sport and doing things differently, which is awesome.
[00:33:12] Speaker C: Love watching that happen.
[00:33:15] Speaker B: You want to talk about your boy Blaney?
[00:33:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I have it in the notes. I personally wrote this, so let's not say Dawson's bashing my driver. Blaney sucked yesterday. He did terrible. Showed up with a slow car, he ran slow. And then boom. Out of nowhere, dude's running in the top five to top seven, doing exactly like what we were just talking about with Chastain. He's just running where he can run and making the best of it. And he had top ten finishes in.
[00:33:43] Speaker C: Both stages because of it, which is.
[00:33:45] Speaker A: Wild to me that he had that.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: Me too. But it proves to what we were just talking about as like they use that strategy to flip the end of stage one just like Reddick and them did.
[00:33:54] Speaker C: And he could stay there.
[00:33:57] Speaker B: And that's just a product of Texas. If they would have done that at Kansas, I think Reddick included, they get their doors blown off before that last.
[00:34:06] Speaker C: First stage was over.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: Yes, they did. So watching him finish good in those stages was awesome. Watching him speed on pit, I don't know.
[00:34:18] Speaker C: The last time that Blaney had a pit road penalty. I don't remember it. It's been a long while.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: He's usually got just know, slow pit stops. Blaney on pit road is always a nightmare, but it's usually because the pit crew is going a little slower for him to make the mistake this time because he had a perfectly fine stop at the end of stage one. The end of stage two, they were doing fine.
[00:34:39] Speaker C: Then he speeds on pit road and gets sent to the back and gets.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Caught up in Reddick and Eric Jones. Both hit the wall and he gets caught up as pretty much gets the worst end of the stick. Does nothing wrong. Just running back in the back where he didn't belong because of a mistake, and boom, he gets taken out of the race, and now he is second.
[00:34:58] Speaker C: To last in the points in the playoffs.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: That's a rough way. That's a rough way to end that race, man. Finishing 20 eigth due to a damaged car with crab walking down the road, it upset me. I got real sad about it because I was like, man, we had a.
[00:35:13] Speaker C: Top ten run going. Yeah.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: And I'm on the same page. Like I said with Larson, I'd be nervous as hell if I'm a Blaney.
[00:35:21] Speaker C: Fan because it doesn't matter how good.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: You are at Talladega, it's the wild card.
[00:35:26] Speaker C: And then I also don't see Blaney.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: Going out and skunking them at the robo.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Uphill climb. If we could have 2018 again every year at the Roble, man, I'd be so happy. I love that racetrack, and I think it's because my guy won it the.
[00:35:43] Speaker C: First time he went out and it.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: Was an awesome finish and all that. But damn, does it make me nervous because they just have not had enough speed for him to feel confident going into it. So I think it's definitely going to turn into another year like it's always been, where the round of twelve comes down to a few points right at the very end and we're literally watching those points tick up and down based off of passes being made by somebody that took a late pit stop and is now zooming past cars.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Yes. I hope you enjoy and soak in the Roval this year because I think.
[00:36:16] Speaker C: It might be the last one for a while. I figured.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: But, man, I loved it while it lasted. What a great racetrack. I personally love it. If you want to come for me, you come for me. But it's always been fun to me.
[00:36:29] Speaker B: Having it in the old car. I loved it in the old car.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, me too.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: But now it's along with every other road course, in my opinion. And it's like, I don't know if we've talked about this on here, but I know for a fact we talked.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: About it last week on the road.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: These guys and their Denny and Brad K, or a couple that come to mind, Dale Jr. Have said this exact thing, but we said it even before this. But it's like this car runs so well on mile and a half and they make so many changes. You brought this up. In the last few years, they have been so change happy with the schedule. I'd say up to seven, eight dates a year, they switch around. Yeah.
This is the point in NASCAR where.
[00:37:12] Speaker C: It'S like, okay, you have the ability to do that.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: Let's capitalize on what we have with this car on mile and a.
What we know what it runs good.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: On, we know what it doesn't, so.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: Let'S capitalize on it. And people are absolutely eating up the mile and a half tracks right now, and so are the drivers. So let's capitalize on it. And that is an easy one to.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Switch would be the roval at your hometown, Charlote. You know they're going to work with you.
All they have to do is just not set up the Roval. So you're telling me it takes less labor hours for us to do this? Hell, yeah. It's even better. We don't have to paint the track up any ridiculous colors.
[00:37:51] Speaker C: All we had to do is set.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: That up and boom. Now we even have a little bit more room in the end field to work with.
[00:37:55] Speaker C: So more campers and the better sales.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: On that freaking coke 600. The last two years has just been awesome. I mean, just awesome. So you take those cars down there and run them again at the 400. It used to be called the bank of America 400.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: I don't know what it is called.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: Nowadays, but bank of America Roval 400, or whatever the heck it is.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: Is that what it is? So if they bring back Charlote Oval, I really do see that happening. I see people talk about them on Twitter all the time. Whether they're reliable or not, I don't know. But I think they're going back to the oval next year.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: I think they should.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: And I can't wait to see it in the playoffs. So I can't imagine how much more ferocious they're going to be racing around there. So if they just keep the car the same way it is, let's not change anything drastic about this car, unless it's at a short track or a road course.
[00:38:47] Speaker C: That's all we need.
[00:38:48] Speaker A: That's all we need. And a super speedway. But I mean, let's focus on the ones that are less exciting inherently because of the problems.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Did you listen to what Justin Haley said on the Dell Jr. Download the other.
A couple, a couple of weeks back? I want to say it was maybe at New Hampshire Martins, but wherever it was, I can't remember, but they took the diffusers off, ran all these different.
The. This major change in the short track package. Do you remember this? A couple weeks?
[00:39:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: He was one of the drivers. He got out and he said word for word, he was like, if you wouldn't have told me something was different with the car, he said, I'd have had no idea.
[00:39:25] Speaker C: Dang, he was whatever.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: The car wasn't the problem.
[00:39:29] Speaker C: No.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: He said, there is so much tire on the track and they have no power to get off the corners. He was like, until that changes, he was like, there is not a driver in the field that would change, that would know anything about the car. He said, everybody said it was the biggest fail of a test he's ever seen in his whole career. And all the drivers were talking about how big of a fail this was for them to do this for two days. And I was like, man, I don't know what the hold up is on.
[00:39:56] Speaker C: The whole tire and horsepower, but that's.
[00:40:00] Speaker B: Obviously what it is. It's tire and horsepower.
Let's just figure it out. Denny Hamley keeps saying it like we're talking about saving money. Well, saving money is costing us good racing.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: Exactly. And you know what?
[00:40:12] Speaker A: At the end of the day, these charters are worth a ton of money. BJ McLeod just sold his for $40 million.
There is value in NASCAR right now. So you know you have value. You've got to learn how to use that value to your advantage to get faster race cars. So if it's going to be more expensive for smaller teams or bigger teams to upgrade these engine packages, man, that sucks. But I'm tired of watching boring short track races where nobody does anything and everybody's shifting in the corners because that's the only way you can find more power. Yeah, give us some damn horsepower. Give us tail wagon in the center of the corner. Give us bumping and running at Bristol. Don't give us. Well, my engine's pretty much pegged out where it's at, and I may have a couple rpms on the guy in front of me but my arrow won't let me get any closer. So here we are.
[00:41:04] Speaker C: We're stuck. That sucks.
They've made.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Oh, man. We could just go on and on and on. It's like beating a dead horse. But even like, the brakes, he's like, no one smokes a tire is going into turn one at a short track anymore, or even a road course.
The problems we're talking about go hand in hand. But the brakes are so good. Make the brakes shittier. That sounds stupid, but I've heard drivers say, make the brakes work. Make them smaller.
[00:41:35] Speaker C: I don't get. You can't.
[00:41:39] Speaker B: I wouldn't be surprised if Martinsville, the only damn reason anybody's showing up in Martinsville, because it's cutoff race. If it wasn't a cutoff race, dude, man, nobody's going to show up and watch the train go around in circles. They're just not going.
[00:41:57] Speaker C: Incredibly, it is painfully boring to watch a short track race in this next gen car. That can be a clip we'll put.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: On TikTok right there.
[00:42:06] Speaker C: But it's true. Yeah, it is awful.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: You can't expect anybody to show up when the drivers and the crew chiefs and the owners, and there's not, I don't know, one person. I have not seen nor met or heard of one person that had one good thing to say about the next.
[00:42:22] Speaker C: Gen car on a short track.
[00:42:24] Speaker B: No, not a single.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: Not even us.
[00:42:27] Speaker C: You won't get it out of us, I promise you.
[00:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah, it's sad to see it, but that's just how it goes. I mean, you'll have a car that's really good somewhere. You'll have a car that's really boring somewhere. But even when in the previous generation of NASCAR, even when we were going to mile and a halves where it wasn't great, it was still more entertaining than going to a short track in this next gen car.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: That is 100% a fact. Exactly what you just said. It was still than a next gen short track race.
[00:42:57] Speaker C: It's true.
[00:42:58] Speaker B: I don't even know what.
[00:42:58] Speaker A: God, we ain't got any in this.
[00:43:00] Speaker B: Round, but, man, I'm excited. Is the next round, and I'm pretty sure it is. It's Vegas, Miami, and Martinsville, which we just said, martinsville's cutoff race. Whatever. But, dude, Vegas and Miami back to back.
[00:43:14] Speaker C: That's going to be awesome.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that will be exciting.
Martinsville will have a level of excitement simply because, like you just said, it is a race.
[00:43:24] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:43:24] Speaker A: And it will show up for that and people get excited for that.
[00:43:28] Speaker C: But, man, you're right.
[00:43:29] Speaker A: Las Vegas and Miami back to back are going to be two really fun racetracks to watch with this next gen car running the way it is at.
[00:43:35] Speaker C: These kind of tracks.
[00:43:36] Speaker B: They were both great last year. I'm very excited.
I don't even know if I appreciated as much last year. I knew Mile and a house were good, but I think I might have had a salty taste in my mouth for mile and a half.
The last however many years it's been. They've been, like I said, a little lackluster, but, man, I have appreciated and soaked in some mile and a half racing this year, and I'm excited.
[00:44:00] Speaker A: They needed to work on it, and they worked on it, and they got it good. Problem is, they forgot to work on the rest of it. So let's get them on that and fix that all up, and we'll be going a lot better.
So who you want to talk about next? Who will we not hit on yet?
[00:44:17] Speaker C: I thought this was a cool stat.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: The one I put in there about Larson, he had the fastest lap on 42.93% of the laps at Texas, which is the highest percentage of laps as any car for any driver this season, which I thought was crazy. It was so funny. During the race, junior is like, man, now we're talking about a battle for like 6th and 7th or 7th and 8th, but it's Denny and Larson. And Dale Jr. Goes, man, I think this is the battle for the lead winning car right here. And Rick Allen goes, you're telling me you're counting out, bubba Wallace? And Dale Jr. Says, yes, I am looking at the lap times, and Larson is running about a second faster than anybody on the track. And hanlin's right behind him. And by God, if junior didn't just nail it on the head, yes, he.
[00:45:04] Speaker A: Knows what he's looking at.
[00:45:07] Speaker B: And then finally, I wasn't looking at lap times during the race, but someone posted, they kept posting screenshots. Every single one. All the cars would be in the being the 29s. Every single set of laps they'd post.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: That's what it was.
[00:45:24] Speaker B: I was like, damn, he is smoking their ass, right?
[00:45:27] Speaker C: He is God.
[00:45:28] Speaker A: And if it wasn't for that last restart he took part in. And, man, I don't know what Bubba found on the outside to stick around with him for that long, but that was an awesome battle to watch. And I hated the way that it ended for you. I hated that because, man, I just felt like if Larson had just let.
[00:45:45] Speaker C: Him have the lead, I feel like.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: He could have gotten it back at some and. But I'm not ever going to condone someone giving up the lead to try to get it back in another place. I'm just saying, like, man, racing him that hard right there, it sucked to watch him spin himself out right around just getting that air taken off.
I don't know if maybe there was something to do with the low lane and one and two. By that point, it just was so much slower that he felt unconfident or maybe he was trying to pressure Bubba into making a mistake. But the fact he was up so close to Bubba, I thought that was so wild that he chose to do that.
[00:46:25] Speaker B: His goal was to make Bubba lift, but Buba didn't lift.
It's the kind of race car driver Larson is, and Denny Hamlin said it specifically. And Denny Hamlin uses the same tactics on Larson and other drivers. But they're going to put you in a situation, whether you either got to.
[00:46:42] Speaker C: Have balls and stay in it or.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: You'Re going to hit the wall or.
[00:46:45] Speaker C: You'Re going to wreck or you're going.
[00:46:46] Speaker B: To let off and then just let off. And Bubba held his ground and did not let off. And I'll give it to him.
[00:46:54] Speaker C: Man.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: I was just like, all I could say was, no nails the wall. I mean, Lindsay are sitting there watching the race, and I was like, no way.
I just felt crushed because it's just one of those days.
It's just one of those days.
You don't get the car that's the fastest car on the track for half the race. Often.
Yes. Bubba led 111 laps, and it was a career day for Bubba. But Larson had a piece, dude.
[00:47:27] Speaker C: And you don't get those often.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: No.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: For one to slip away like that.
[00:47:31] Speaker A: It'S like, damn it, no one was going to beat you. You had to beat yourself on that.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: You're exactly hear, you could hear the just dejection in Cliff Daniels and Kyle Larson's voice when they're, when he hits the.
The same. I had the same face and reaction sitting on the couch.
[00:47:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: No, just was.
That was a letdown for mean. That's NASCAR racing, right? Kind of. That's like you said, that's Kyle Larson. This year, it's either I win the race or I come home with just the steering wheel left in my hand. I mean, he drives the hell out of it. No matter what you give him. He doesn't want to be anywhere second or behind. He wants to be in first so he won't take anything less than that, which is a great quality in a race car driver. But, man, it doesn't suck whenever you have the steering wheel and not the checker flag.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: This is the same damn.
He got knocked out in this round last year. And it's because the set of tracks are not his best. Even though Texas is great. But losing that bad at Texas is going to hurt him so bad with Talladega Roval. But if he can make it out.
[00:48:48] Speaker C: Of this, he will.
[00:48:50] Speaker B: I will put it down right now. He will win either Vegas or Miami, one of the two. He will win one of those races and he will be in the final four.
[00:48:59] Speaker A: I'm marking your words. I'm writing them.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: Got to get out of this round.
[00:49:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: And I feel like he doesn't win.
[00:49:07] Speaker B: Vegas or Miami, but just like he did last year, he did the exact same thing last year, but it didn't help out when he gets right hooked in the wall by Buba at Vegas.
[00:49:17] Speaker C: And all that shit that happened last.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Year, but comes out the next week and freaking skunks their ass in Miami. Like, if he can make it out of this round, dude, we're going to be in good shape.
[00:49:28] Speaker C: Yeah, no doubt.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: I think that's why he was going for the lead so hard against Bubba right there. He knows that's his opportunity to win.
Advance to the next round right there. He could have made it happen. He was that damn close. It is what it is.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Kind of like we just said, you don't want to wreck a fifth place car going for the lead, but it's hard to tell old boy that's got the fastest car on the track not to wreck going for the lead in that point. You got to go for it. I don't remember how many laps where there were to go, but I don't.
[00:49:58] Speaker A: Put any twenty s to fifty s.
[00:50:01] Speaker B: I want to say like 25. That's for some reason that's poking out my mind. But I put no blame on Larson or Bubba for racing that hard at the end of the race with everything on the line to go into the next round.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it was awesome to watch.
[00:50:15] Speaker C: Had a ton of fun.
[00:50:17] Speaker A: Somebody who had another bad day.
[00:50:19] Speaker C: True x, dude.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: Dude, he cannot have a good race. He can't have a clean race. The end of stage one, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell happened there where he gets spun around. Everybody's checking up. I'm like, man, did everybody shut their engines off and nobody told 15th that the yellow would come out. I just was confused. I didn't think he's either.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: But junior said on the broadcast that a lot of guys let off incredibly soon, sooner than normal. And I don't know. From looking at it on tv, it's hard to tell because we don't know. Right. We don't know when a guy lets know after a stage or when a caution happens or all that. We have no idea. So to the naked eye, and a non race car driver, you don't know to even look for that. But I'll trust what Dale Jr. Says. And they got all a little stacked up there and it was weird. Like my dad's exact words were. He's like, these guys are racing like a bunch of fucking rookies in their first race when that happened.
[00:51:15] Speaker C: Yeah, it's true. What the fuck was that?
Yeah, very od.
[00:51:20] Speaker A: And then what ended up happening to him later on in the race? Something ended up happening. He getting a wreck or something?
[00:51:26] Speaker B: I don't know. He just ran like dog shit.
[00:51:28] Speaker C: They're slow right now. I don't know.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: 17Th and running.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: I do not know what's going on. But if he finishes 17th or worst at Dega, which is highly possible, it would be the first time in his career he's had six finishes outside the.
[00:51:49] Speaker C: Top 15 in a row.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: I just can't believe that we're talking about Martin Truex, Jr. In this year running this crappy. And, I mean, he's got a lot, champ dog.
[00:51:59] Speaker C: Yeah, he's got a lot on his.
[00:52:01] Speaker A: Mind, a lot right now. I mean, I get that and I.
[00:52:04] Speaker C: Feel for him, but, yeah, man, it's.
[00:52:07] Speaker A: Tough to have a team that's so strong. And you're right. Regular season champ coming in as one of the favorites for the championship, restarting the round even with 36 points to the good. And now here we are looking at him. He's only 19 points to the good. He gives up points in every single race and just squeaks by into this round.
You're running out of squeaks. You're running out of spots to squeak through in. So, man, he's just going to have to come out here and have a great next couple of weeks.
[00:52:34] Speaker C: And Talladega is a tough one for him.
[00:52:37] Speaker B: Yeah, and I know we keep talking about this, but Talladega, he is not a plate driver. And then he is not a next gen road course driver. Just the way Denny Ham is not a next gen plate driver.
We spoke about this on a podcast recently, but. Truex preview prior to next gen at road courses, dude, lights out, kicked ass.
[00:52:58] Speaker C: Won all of them.
[00:52:59] Speaker B: It was awesome. But now in the next gen car, it's made everything so even and equal and takes away whatever made him badass.
[00:53:09] Speaker C: And he hasn't done well. No.
[00:53:15] Speaker B: I don't know. I haven't picked for my final four, but I don't know if I see it happening. They're just slow, man. Yeah. They're not running good at all.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: They just got to turn it on. They've got to turn it on. They have it.
[00:53:26] Speaker C: They're in.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: Any given Sunday driver, like you always say, they got to have it in the tank. I just don't know where they're leaving it. I don't know why they keep leaving.
[00:53:33] Speaker C: It at the shop. So if they just get that figured out, man, they'd make something happen here.
[00:53:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:41] Speaker C: Well, go ahead.
[00:53:45] Speaker A: I was saying, you want to move on into xfinity racing a little bit. I know you had some stuff to.
[00:53:49] Speaker C: Talk about in there.
Yeah.
[00:53:52] Speaker B: The xfinity race was a good race. It wasn't great, but they can still pass more than the cup cars.
[00:54:01] Speaker A: They definitely can.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: The ending, though, I cheer for Parker Kligerman so hard, man.
He comes from nothing. And he had a shot at Pinsky back in the day, and he didn't run good, and it didn't work out. And that's just the way it was. And I think his car was actually sponsored by was, you know, believed in.
[00:54:22] Speaker C: Him, giving him the opportunity to do something.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: And he goes out and goes and gets a tv job and stays in.
[00:54:33] Speaker C: And around the sport and just like, I don't know.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: I just cheer for Parker Kligeman. I always have. And when he got this opportunity, he seemed like he always, man, he goes out and wins mid Ohio last year in a truck that only runs six, seven races a year. He's won in that 75 truck multiple times, a few times. Always runs well in it. It outruns his equipment, man. And you take this team, Scott Borchetta's team, they are a one car team. Don't have an alliance, don't anything. It's just them doing them. And they're always all year. They don't have mile and a half speed. This is going to be their big test. Whatever. And he goes out and delivers every fucking weekend.
[00:55:15] Speaker C: If he doesn't have a hub lock up at Bristol, he is so into the playoffs deep.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: I mean, like, points cut wise, he's already in right now, obviously.
[00:55:27] Speaker C: But if he was freaking didn't have.
[00:55:30] Speaker B: That mechanical failure at Bristol, dude, he would be in there, in there. And I was cheering for him so.
[00:55:36] Speaker C: Hard to win that damn xfinity race.
[00:55:40] Speaker B: And he kind of the same deal, he gets on the inside of the seven car same way the five. He was on the inside of the 23 and gets loose and that was it. Got into the seven, seven gets up in the marbles, falls back to like 15th. Algae is pissed.
[00:55:54] Speaker C: Then John Hunter comes in and.
[00:55:58] Speaker B: Sneaks one out on him for his like I think 7th win of the year, which props to him.
[00:56:05] Speaker A: He's running like hell, man.
[00:56:07] Speaker B: I made the joke that he is going to a mid team next year but I mean, dude, freaking legacy has found something. And them going toyota I think is just going to help. So John Hunter Jones next year, they might be a Lock, dude, for that top 15 top ten cars weekend away, which would be. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's crazy. I didn't see it coming. They've ran so bad. They ran so bad and then now it's just changed to running top ten.
[00:56:43] Speaker C: Don't get me wrong, the 43 had.
[00:56:47] Speaker B: Some race winning speed at times yesterday, but it ain't going to be long before it looks like they could be knocking on the door of some wins. And if they run, who knows what they could do.
Anybody can run Daga, but with Miami and Vegas, I could see them running really well at Vegas.
[00:57:04] Speaker A: I know I'd love to see it.
[00:57:05] Speaker B: For Eric Jones, Bush and back to cup and whatever. But either way I was cheering hard for was it was awesome. And the last few restarts there, it was like high intense and the seven car dominated the whole race. Definitely was the fastest car got up in those marbles, went to the back, thought his car never drove the same after that, but drove back to the lead. And then that one situation where the seven, I don't even know if the seven and the 48 touch, but they definitely got arrow, whatever. But it pushed the seven way up track into those marbles again and there was only a couple of laps to go at that point. He had no chance to get it back after that.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: Yeah, and his best friend right now is Daniel Henrich. Running through the grass on the infield, just taking out his whole left side fender set up and the splitter got a ton of damage on it. I mean, just stuff you can't do, man.
I didn't. But I mean, they were talking about something like, man, it's easy to miss it and this and that. You don't even know where it is. It's like, man, you've made how many laps around this track. You don't know where the dog leg ends. I know Junior has done it before, too. And it's like, I don't know.
You did it. And that was dumb. That was really dumb of you to try to make that move and then catch the grass and destroy the front of your.
[00:58:25] Speaker B: I'm not everybody now.
[00:58:26] Speaker A: They're only a point separated him and.
[00:58:30] Speaker C: Fucking.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: I'm not on the Daniel Hemrick train at mean. What has he done? And now he's a cup driver next year. That's what all the retweets were, was like, this is a cup driver. And then everybody, this is a cup driver. I'm like, oh, fuck.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: And now he's one point away from getting eliminated in the round of twelve from the Xfinity Series playoffs to Parker Kligerman, who is running a one car.
[00:58:53] Speaker B: Team, running by a car with way smaller of an organization.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: Yeah, colleague just loves that dude for some reason. So I'll let him have it. Maybe he can come out there and prove us wrong. I always welcome people coming out and proving us wrong. Yeah, but it's going to take a lot.
[00:59:10] Speaker C: He's been there before.
[00:59:15] Speaker B: You want to talk about our favorite.
[00:59:16] Speaker C: Part of the week?
I have a good one.
[00:59:20] Speaker A: I feel like I do, too. I hope it's the same thing, man. It's the award you don't want, but you got to earn it the hard way. It's the hack of the week and I have the crown.
[00:59:28] Speaker C: Finally.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: Who's going to win our prestigious hack.
[00:59:31] Speaker C: Of the week award?
[00:59:34] Speaker B: I saw this come across my phone and I'm giving the shout out right now. We talk about him all the time. Mr. Randy Adams hits us with, is the tiny squirrel boy not big enough to see over the steering wheel?
[00:59:46] Speaker C: What the fuck is he doing?
[00:59:50] Speaker B: Ty Gibbs might as well be going down pit road in the pit boxes. I have never seen a driver calm.
[00:59:55] Speaker A: Down pit road and be in the.
[00:59:57] Speaker B: Middle of pit road.
[00:59:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:00] Speaker A: And I was just thinking, this is.
[01:00:01] Speaker C: Second winning hack of the week.
[01:00:05] Speaker B: I think it is.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: But little tiny squirrel boy.
[01:00:09] Speaker B: Holy shit, dude. Tiny squirrel boy just. I don't know. You got to get to the grass, dog. I don't even race race cars and.
[01:00:17] Speaker C: I know you got to get to the grass. Yeah.
[01:00:20] Speaker A: And then it's his own teammate and it takes him out of the race. Him running right there. He's now out of race.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: Out of the race.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: His teammates got major right side damage now and never quite can get up there to the front. It's like, man, what kind of race could we have had if Larson and Hamlin were able to get up there and run at the front? But I don't think Hamlin had it after he got a big parachute put in the side of his car.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: He still was fast.
[01:00:40] Speaker C: Fast.
[01:00:41] Speaker B: But he could have been Larson fast.
[01:00:43] Speaker C: Without having a hole in the door. Yep, man.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: Ty Gibbs, hack of the week.
[01:00:48] Speaker C: Here we go.
[01:00:49] Speaker A: Let's give the crown a little tiny squirrel. Boy, I wish I had a little squirrel here that I could just place this little crown on top of.
[01:00:54] Speaker C: We need to get a little mounted squirrel.
We do.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: And every time he wins hack of.
[01:01:00] Speaker C: The week, we'll put the crown on it.
[01:01:02] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely hack of the week. I definitely think he felt like a dumb ass.
[01:01:05] Speaker C: You could tell he felt like a dumb ass. But, hey, it is what it know. You'll have that trading paint.
[01:01:14] Speaker B: Dude, I was thinking this morning, was there a trading paint that was like.
[01:01:18] Speaker C: Just blew everybody out of the water?
[01:01:20] Speaker A: Not really. There wasn't anything crazy. I love the fact that the nine car ran the Kelly blue book scheme. I love that.
[01:01:26] Speaker B: I do love the baby. I do love the baby blue car.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: So I'm going to shout out to that car specifically because I love the colors, I love the scheme. I love everything about it.
Trading paint because it's an alternate scheme.
[01:01:39] Speaker C: At least it's something that's not typically ran.
[01:01:43] Speaker B: I can agree.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: Maybe we could talk about the green paint on the left front of Daniel Hemrich's car after about lap 57 or.
[01:01:49] Speaker C: Whatever he hit the grass in.
[01:01:51] Speaker B: Also, another changing paint jobs. This is like hack of the week 2.0.
[01:01:55] Speaker C: Sam Mayer.
[01:01:57] Speaker B: How the fuck Dell Jr. Talks about on his podcast all the time about Sam mayor just being so over the top way too early.
Kind of having that Ross Chastain syndrome.
[01:02:07] Speaker C: But times 100 dog.
[01:02:10] Speaker B: How you hit the damn outside wall going that hard on the first lap. Your car didn't even pass the start finish line once.
What was that? I don't understand.
That was dumb all the way around. Just going out like, you can't win a race on lap one, but you can sure as hell lose a race on lap hell.
[01:02:31] Speaker C: Yeah. He did it. He did. That's your backup hack of the week.
[01:02:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's hack of the week 2.0. Just because that was very stupid.
[01:02:39] Speaker A: Honorable mention.
[01:02:41] Speaker B: They're best friends, so I feel like I could put them in a room together.
[01:02:43] Speaker C: They get along well.
[01:02:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that should turn out just fine.
[01:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:49] Speaker C: God dang, man.
[01:02:50] Speaker A: I love it. Well, we're off to Talladega. Next week, so I can't wait.
Can't wait to be there, man. Can't wait to watch it happen. I just want to see Allison's face when she feels 40 cars right in front of her all gearing up at the same time. It's such a powerful moment. I love seeing it on the racetrack. It's just completely changed ever since I went there for the first time.
[01:03:11] Speaker C: So I'm stoked.
[01:03:14] Speaker A: Cannot wait to do it. I want to see Blaney get up there and lead the hell out of these laps. I think he can do it. I'm very excited all the way.
[01:03:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm excited. Talladega's always, I've been to Talladega where I've been to any other track because it's the closest track to my home than any other track.
My dad took me there when I was just a couple years old. So, I mean, I've been to a lot of Talladega races, and I've seen some iconic moments at Talladega throughout the years that, like, got to.
[01:03:48] Speaker C: It's. It's just something about Talladega, man.
[01:03:52] Speaker B: I don't know what it is, but there's a reason Talladega and Daytona are.
[01:03:55] Speaker C: Always sold out, because they're excited.
[01:03:58] Speaker A: Awesome.
[01:03:58] Speaker B: And I can't wait. You never know what's going to happen.
[01:04:02] Speaker C: And that is what racing is all about. So if you've never been, I tell.
[01:04:09] Speaker B: People all the time, people talk about going to Bristol, going here, going there.
[01:04:12] Speaker C: No.
[01:04:12] Speaker B: If you've never been to a damn race, I'm taking you to Talladega. And just like you said, when that pack of cars goes past you, it.
[01:04:21] Speaker C: Is just the most brain rattling thing you've ever felt.
[01:04:26] Speaker A: No matter what part of the wind you're sitting in that comes flying behind.
[01:04:30] Speaker B: A few ways behind them there.
[01:04:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it's awesome.
[01:04:36] Speaker B: I'm excited. I'm very excited. It'd be my first time going back to Dega in a few years, so.
[01:04:42] Speaker C: I'm pumped up about it.
Heck, yeah.
[01:04:45] Speaker A: I love it, man. Well, here's our social media shout outs for the end of the episode. I am at Caleb Conrouty on everything.
[01:04:55] Speaker B: Dawson. Average music on my stuff.
[01:04:59] Speaker C: Ray. Rowdy racing, raised rowdy, all this stuff.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: And don't forget about raised Rowdy. Nikki T and raised Rowdy. I guess Matt Burrell, not raised rowdy. Matt Burrell. Matt Burrell. And go ahead and give them a follow, too. They're the ones that help us do this every single week. So huge thanks to them.
Can't wait for y'all to take a listen to this.
[01:05:20] Speaker C: Y'all tell us what you think, and.
[01:05:21] Speaker A: Tell us if we're going to see you at Talladega. We'd love to say hi. Y'all come on with it. But till then, y'all, sayonara. We love you.
[01:05:29] Speaker B: Thank you all very much.
[01:05:36] Speaker D: I don't drive a Monte Carlo and my truck ain't painted black it ain't got a big white number three turning left around a track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can't handle dirt don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses, I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door check ear the record, my foot hammered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl earn hard bath, good wrench, ain't ever been.
