S2 Episode 9: Martinsville, Total Eclipse of NASCAR

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is Ray's rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. [00:00:12] Speaker B: What up? There's the beer. [00:00:17] Speaker A: Good afternoon, beautiful people. [00:00:21] Speaker B: Caleb's drinking a beer. I'm drinking a monster sporting tide. [00:00:25] Speaker A: I'm drinking me. I'm drinking me a bud Conrady Coors. [00:00:30] Speaker C: Light, which, for those of you that don't know, my dad's name is Bud. And when I was growing up, he. [00:00:38] Speaker A: Had coors lights sitting behind the seat in a twelve pack that he'd ever put on ice. [00:00:43] Speaker C: And whenever he ran out, he'd just turn around, reach around, grab a coors. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Light and start drinking it. It could be 100 degrees outside. It could be 32 degrees outside. [00:00:51] Speaker C: Whatever temperature it was, that's how hot the beer was. [00:00:54] Speaker A: So we got a room temperature, 32. [00:00:56] Speaker C: Degree bees or 32 degrees beer ain't too bad, man. That was a tough one for you. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it's been a weird day. [00:01:05] Speaker A: It has been. Right before we started this podcast, you thought you were in the room. I was in the room with you. Forgot I was on speakerphone and so. [00:01:13] Speaker C: Your microphone was picking me up twice. [00:01:15] Speaker B: I use my computer in a couple days and it was acting weird. [00:01:18] Speaker C: This. Well, it's not this morning. [00:01:19] Speaker B: It's this afternoon. [00:01:20] Speaker C: Today was the first day I've had to sleep in and a week. [00:01:26] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie. I don't know if I've ever had a busier set of like eight days maybe in my whole entire life. [00:01:33] Speaker C: Preach, brother. [00:01:34] Speaker B: I know, and I know you agree. [00:01:36] Speaker A: God, but it's. This is. This is the first genuinely the first day where I've been in one place the entire day. Have not gone anywhere. I'm just like, I'm just with you right there. [00:01:48] Speaker C: It's. It's been the busiest ten days of my entire life. So, yeah, it's. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's just been crazy. That's why there was no podcast last week. Yeah, me and Caleb started with. [00:02:03] Speaker C: Yeah, started with everything with. With Travis and rehearsals and shows and just everything. [00:02:11] Speaker B: I mean, it was. It's just been busy. There's no other way to describe it. So, yeah, we're back. I mean, that's. [00:02:16] Speaker A: So that's the hard part about rehearsals is I feel like it's not supposed. [00:02:19] Speaker C: To be entire days worth of work. [00:02:23] Speaker A: But it ends up being an entire. [00:02:25] Speaker C: Day'S worth of work. Yeah. And we're there all day, like from 10:00 a.m. To like eight or nine pretty much just. [00:02:34] Speaker A: And building stuff and working on stuff. It never quits. [00:02:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not just like, it's the most grueling work in the world. It's just. You're just busy. The whole. There's just never there. You're just busy the whole time. That's the best way to explain. [00:02:45] Speaker C: It's not like you're picking up, you know, it's like you're working at an. [00:02:49] Speaker B: Oil rig or something for 12 hours. It's not that kind of work. It's just like there's always some kind. [00:02:54] Speaker C: Of work or something to be done in rehearsals. [00:02:58] Speaker B: So you just. And you only have. [00:03:00] Speaker C: We only had four days, so, like. [00:03:02] Speaker B: We kind of had to make the most of those four days. [00:03:04] Speaker C: It's. [00:03:05] Speaker A: It's balls to the wall, for sure. We usually would have six days this year, we only had four. So we had to kind of cram everything into two fewer days than we normally would have. [00:03:15] Speaker C: All the while, we're. [00:03:16] Speaker A: We got a new tour manager out with us now. [00:03:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:19] Speaker A: And he's training him up and he's. He's phenomenal. He's been doing some great work. He's doing the Lord's work out there right now. [00:03:25] Speaker C: Yeah. He. He has been a savior. [00:03:29] Speaker B: He's been. He's been incredible. [00:03:31] Speaker C: Yeah, no doubt. [00:03:33] Speaker A: So it's been a weird and wild couple weeks. So, apologies. No previous podcast was recorded for richmond. [00:03:41] Speaker C: We did our best. [00:03:42] Speaker A: We were thinking about it. We tried to talk about finding some. [00:03:45] Speaker C: Time, but honestly, we just never really. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Had a good chance for it. [00:03:48] Speaker B: There's literally no time. Like I said, when you're work. When you're working like 12 hours a. [00:03:52] Speaker C: Day, it's like, when's the time? You know? Yep. [00:03:56] Speaker A: It's either that or we do it at midnight. And by the time we're done, I am mentally fried. I think I was at rehearsals for maybe a total of like 6 hours out of the entire time. [00:04:05] Speaker C: I feel like I was just gone the whole time. Yeah, the had the first two shows. [00:04:11] Speaker B: This weekend, too, played what was rock the good thing. [00:04:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Which is I feel like everybody in. [00:04:19] Speaker C: America knows about this now. [00:04:24] Speaker B: They've known about it before now, but now my whole tick tock is just videos of various artists that have that. I mean, in two days, I think it was like seven bands the second day and we had five the first. [00:04:37] Speaker C: So it's like exactly like twelve bands in two days. Yeah. [00:04:41] Speaker A: I think you said it best. I think you are the one that said it best. We had two headlining arena acts in country music with Jason Aldean and co. [00:04:52] Speaker C: Wetzel on the same stage. [00:04:54] Speaker A: And we were the ones that had to go right before them. So you talk about just a festival of all festivals. [00:05:01] Speaker C: It had everything. [00:05:02] Speaker A: It didn't matter what kind of music. [00:05:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker A: Country music fan. You were. [00:05:06] Speaker C: You were entertained at some point as a. [00:05:09] Speaker B: As a fan, considering I, like, like, 95% of the people that are on all these shows, especially when you got, like, Miranda Lambert coming up and Hank Junior and Brantley Gilbert and, like, some. [00:05:20] Speaker C: People that, like, are on my, like. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Country music ramp, Mount Rushmore, you know? [00:05:25] Speaker C: Yeah. When you, like, as a fan, like. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Going to these shows and, like, doing. [00:05:30] Speaker C: In the two day experience, like, I. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Mean, it would be awesome, you know, to go. To go to this and, like, you. [00:05:38] Speaker A: Know, to make you buy a festival ticket. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Well, that. [00:05:42] Speaker C: That's the thing. [00:05:42] Speaker B: It's, like, people, I have heard nonstop about everybody because there's one coming to. [00:05:47] Speaker C: Rome in a couple weeks, and I've. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Had everybody and their mother asked me. [00:05:52] Speaker C: For a ticket, and everybody's talked about. [00:05:56] Speaker B: How expensive these tickets are, and I'm. [00:05:58] Speaker C: Like, okay, well, you gotta. You gotta look at, like, the level. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Of artists that are on every single one of these shows. Like, somebody's gotta get. We gotta get paid somehow. [00:06:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Do you know how much these tickets are? [00:06:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, for. I think they're, like, 200 something bucks each day. [00:06:15] Speaker C: I believe. That's it. People are. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, dude. People pay $150 to come to our. [00:06:21] Speaker C: Show on a regular day. [00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, and that's. [00:06:24] Speaker A: That's, like, our most bedroom. [00:06:26] Speaker B: That's not the. That's not the camping and all that. [00:06:30] Speaker C: Stuff, but, yeah, it's like, you're. You're seeing, like, five arena. [00:06:37] Speaker B: If you go to both days, you're seeing, like, five arena accent in two days. And then not counting all the legacy people, like Travis and Hank and then. [00:06:46] Speaker C: All the up and comers, like, you know, we had a Kobe Cooper, and. [00:06:52] Speaker B: I can't remember who else play. Oh, LV Shane, you know, up and coming people that have, you know, like, you know, that have one or two hits on the radio. [00:07:00] Speaker C: So, yeah, it's like a cool mix of, like, these young guys, a huge. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Legacy act, and then two huge acts each night that are. That all, respectively, sell out their own arenas across America. [00:07:14] Speaker C: So, yeah, it's just, when I say. [00:07:16] Speaker B: They got all this together. [00:07:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:18] Speaker A: And when I say that ticket isn't expensive, that's exactly what I'm saying. At least just for the one day attendance, a $200 ticket to see all. [00:07:26] Speaker C: Of that is an unbelievable deal. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Yeah, considering you'd normally pay $50 to sit in a general, 50 to 75 to sit in a really kind of, you know, mild seat for a Travis. [00:07:39] Speaker C: Show, and that's just for Travis. [00:07:42] Speaker A: I mean, you talk about going to see co or going to see Jason, depending on the venue, you could be spending almost that exact same amount just to go to one show with them. [00:07:50] Speaker C: And maybe two openers. So I don't know. [00:07:54] Speaker A: I think it's definitely worth it. I could see it getting expensive in the camping area, but if you get enough friends together, you could split that cost up. I mean, yeah, I've spent a lot. [00:08:02] Speaker C: Together with mascara races, so it just. [00:08:04] Speaker A: Depends on what you're into. [00:08:05] Speaker C: You know, I literally, while we were. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Sitting on the dock there where we load the trucks, the camping area at this specific place was literally right there. I mean, it was a road, a gravel road distance from where we load. [00:08:17] Speaker C: The trucks to where. Yeah, directly. [00:08:19] Speaker B: All the people were. And I literally said that to you. I was like, this is like a NASCAR race right here. Like a little two day, you know, you probably get there a day before, a little Thursday Friday, Saturday action, you know, kind of. [00:08:30] Speaker C: Kind of deal. Um, yeah, they got to get the. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Shower situation figured out before I come. [00:08:36] Speaker C: Unglued, but other than that, we get done with the. [00:08:41] Speaker B: It was a long day. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Anybody ever. [00:08:44] Speaker B: It was a long day. [00:08:46] Speaker A: It was a long day. [00:08:47] Speaker C: The. [00:08:47] Speaker A: The hardest part for us is we've done these festivals a million times. [00:08:51] Speaker C: We. [00:08:52] Speaker A: We are good at them. We know what we're doing. We get complimented all the time. I'm not trying to brag on ourselves. [00:08:58] Speaker C: But our crew is a really good crew. [00:08:59] Speaker A: We have a really tight knit group. [00:09:01] Speaker C: Of people that knows what we're doing. [00:09:03] Speaker A: We trust our stuff is organizing, is. [00:09:05] Speaker B: What everyone tells me. [00:09:06] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:07] Speaker B: We're organized and say, like, our stuff is the most organized of people they see. [00:09:12] Speaker C: Yes. [00:09:13] Speaker A: So we have a really good system. [00:09:14] Speaker C: Going on for festivals. [00:09:16] Speaker A: But you know what really can mess up a really good system? Going to a festival was making it your very first show of the entire year. We haven't done a full man show since, what was it, first week into December, so that's already four months ago. Four months ago. I can walk you through a Travis. [00:09:35] Speaker C: Stratt load in and load out pretty. [00:09:39] Speaker A: Much any time of the year. If you'd asked me, I could tell you step by step what I would do. [00:09:42] Speaker C: But at the first show of the. [00:09:44] Speaker A: Year, I have to genuinely knock some. [00:09:45] Speaker C: Rust off and think about everything from. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Start to start to finish. Am I forgetting anything? Is there anything that I didn't do? [00:09:53] Speaker C: You just gotta. [00:09:53] Speaker A: Gotta make sure that you're correct again. [00:09:56] Speaker C: So doing it for the first time. [00:09:58] Speaker A: At a hot outdoor festival when we're third in line with two major acts. [00:10:03] Speaker C: Going on right behind us, man, you. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Talk about a challenge. I mean, it wore us out. I heard you talking just at Billy Bob's. [00:10:10] Speaker C: You were hurting. Dude. I. That's the sorest I've ever been. The. [00:10:15] Speaker B: The source I'd been previously was the first time we ever went to the. [00:10:18] Speaker C: Blue Mile in Mississippi. [00:10:20] Speaker B: When I walked, like, almost 30,000 steps, I was like, my feet. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:25] Speaker B: And this was, like, probably two years. I've been there twice now, but this is, like, two years ago. Like, the first time was probably. [00:10:30] Speaker C: Probably into 2021 or beginning of 2022. [00:10:34] Speaker B: I was like, my feet have never felt this way ever in my life. I was like, what. What is up with this? And I look at my. [00:10:40] Speaker C: My. My stepping thing, and it's like, the. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Record breaking steps for, like, one day, it was, like, almost 30,000, you know? [00:10:47] Speaker C: And then, yes, you're the first show. [00:10:51] Speaker B: Yes, you're knocking off rush. You're not in tour shape. You're. There's nothing. There's no concrete or anything. It's all gravel. So that also didn't help. And then, dude, we got up. I got up for Billy Bob's on a Saturday morning. [00:11:07] Speaker C: Yeah, day two. [00:11:09] Speaker B: And thank God we didn't even load in till, like, noon. But, dude, I got up, and from about my middle of my back all. [00:11:15] Speaker C: The way to my feet, just excruciating. [00:11:19] Speaker B: Like, I was bent over, trying to stretch it out. I was like, what in the world is going on? [00:11:25] Speaker C: Like, it was just. [00:11:26] Speaker B: It felt like I was, like, either squatted or deadlifted. Like, the most weight, nonstop, all. That's what it felt like. That's what my body felt like. [00:11:34] Speaker C: And it was do it to you. By the end of the day, I. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Was all loosened up and fine, and then woke up. Sunday morning was fine. Everything was, like, loose and good to go. But it was just that first day being all that, I was sore as hell. Bud, same way Bud had to go. [00:11:48] Speaker C: To the doctor, Bud went to the. [00:11:49] Speaker B: Chiropractor in the middle of the day on Friday, on Saturday. [00:11:52] Speaker C: I don't know if you know that. [00:11:54] Speaker A: I did know that. [00:11:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:55] Speaker A: He had to make it, make a special trip. [00:11:57] Speaker B: It was just. [00:11:58] Speaker C: All of us were just, like, got our ass to be pretty much. [00:12:01] Speaker A: No doubt. [00:12:02] Speaker C: And that's just part of it. [00:12:05] Speaker B: You know, it just is what it is. But it was rough. [00:12:08] Speaker C: It was rough. [00:12:10] Speaker A: I was definitely feeling it, for sure. I. Luckily, it didn't have to sell a lot. I didn't have to sell merch, and I didn't have to shuck a lot of t shirts because we only had much. I knew we weren't going to sell very much. It's a festival. [00:12:20] Speaker C: You never sell much. [00:12:22] Speaker A: But I will say that second day, we were at Billy Bob's, Texas, and. [00:12:27] Speaker C: Everybody knows I'm from north Texas, and. [00:12:30] Speaker A: I've been to Billy Bob's to see. [00:12:32] Speaker C: Randy Travis, Josh Turner, Robert Earl Keen. [00:12:36] Speaker A: Texas Hill played there last year. I saw them play. [00:12:38] Speaker B: 21St birthday was Robert Earl Keen. [00:12:41] Speaker A: My 21st birthday was Robert Earl Keane at Billy Bob's. Yeah. So I have loved that venue for years. [00:12:46] Speaker C: I've always enjoyed going there, and this. [00:12:49] Speaker A: Last Saturday was my very first chance. [00:12:51] Speaker C: To work the show. [00:12:53] Speaker A: And I'll say for something you look forward to for so many years, to finally work a show at the place. [00:12:59] Speaker C: Where you grew up doing shows. It was the friendliest, nicest group of. [00:13:05] Speaker A: People that ran that event. They were constantly checking on us, making sure that we were good. Even when I was out selling merch, every about 30 minutes, one of their employees over my department, over the merch department, would come and check on me and make sure that I didn't need anything. [00:13:18] Speaker C: Do you want. You need a drink? [00:13:19] Speaker A: Do you need something to eat? Do you need us to watch the stand so you can go use a restroom? I mean, that stuff has never happened to me before as a merch seller. [00:13:27] Speaker C: In my entire life, and they were doing it every 30 minutes. So it was. It was awesome. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Huge shout out to Billy. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Robert Gallagher is his name, correct? [00:13:36] Speaker A: I actually never got to meet Robert out of the entire day. He was never around when I was in the backstage area. I was disappointed by that. But you. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah, he hung out back there for a while. [00:13:47] Speaker C: Once he got there, he hung out. [00:13:50] Speaker B: In the back for a while with all of us backstage. And then a big Aaron. [00:13:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:55] Speaker B: Also, he was great. The security guy that was back there with us, a little blind headed guy. He was great. You know, he. He was like, he's the first. He was the first security guy that I'd ever met that did security and. [00:14:07] Speaker C: Also got everybody's food, which was super cool and great. [00:14:13] Speaker B: It was. It was great all the way around. The only thing that I would change is not starting the show at 1015 late shows. [00:14:21] Speaker A: Billy Bob's, man. We didn't. [00:14:23] Speaker B: We didn't get done at, like, 02:00 a.m. Somebody was like, yeah, I think the bus is leaving at 130. I turned around, said, we won't be. [00:14:28] Speaker C: No truck at 130. [00:14:30] Speaker B: I was like, no, no chance. Like, the bus is gonna leave with nobody on it. [00:14:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a little. [00:14:36] Speaker A: There I was. The wild part is, I had to sell merch from 06:00 p.m. Until the show was done and everybody cleared. [00:14:43] Speaker C: I was selling merch. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:14:44] Speaker A: 06:00 p.m. Till about 01:00 in the morning. [00:14:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:47] Speaker B: You sold. You sold merch for, like, a full day's worth of work. Like, an eight hour worth of work after doing everything else. [00:14:54] Speaker A: My feet were tired after that. Yeah, yeah, it was. [00:14:58] Speaker B: It was cool to play. [00:15:00] Speaker A: I cannot wait to go back there again. The only thing I do different is I'd get a merch seller next time, so I can actually enjoy the show a little bit. And my family got to come down. I had 13 different people there. Allison came. [00:15:11] Speaker C: Her cousins came all the way from Indiana. So we got to see your family. [00:15:15] Speaker A: Those cool now, that's. That's what I'm doing, is hanging out. [00:15:18] Speaker C: Down here, and my. [00:15:21] Speaker A: My cousin just had a house fire, so I'm going to go over and. [00:15:24] Speaker B: See if I can help her out. [00:15:25] Speaker C: A little bit and see what I. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Can do for house. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Are following you all around, dude, I'm telling you, man. But once you go through one, you're. [00:15:31] Speaker B: A verified house fire expert. [00:15:33] Speaker A: So I'm gonna go see her and see how she's doing, her and her family. [00:15:37] Speaker C: And she just had a baby on Monday. [00:15:40] Speaker A: She had a house fire on Saturday. She had a house fire on last Thursday, and she had a baby on Monday. [00:15:45] Speaker C: So they're really going through it right now. [00:15:47] Speaker A: So we're gonna try to. [00:15:49] Speaker B: That's probably enough to put a guy like me in the hospital. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah, you. You'd had a heart attack by now. I'm not. [00:15:56] Speaker B: I've been so stressed out. [00:15:57] Speaker C: I'd have been too stressed out. Yep. [00:16:00] Speaker A: You're gonna have to cook outside after you. After Lindsey gets pregnant, just to make sure we don't have any incidents. [00:16:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Speaking of cooking outside, it's funny you say that. Saturday, we're having a full blown, like, family reunion at the house. We're doing a low country bull and bullpen, and Lindsey's folks are coming. My folks are coming. Some cousins are coming. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Like, Randy, you're invited. [00:16:27] Speaker C: Randy, come on. Yeah, we're having a full blown, I say, family reunion. [00:16:34] Speaker B: It's just kind of, like, we're getting, like, both sides of the family all coming into one backyard kind of thing, you know? And I'm. I've done the low country bull once in Florida, and my mom's been talking about how she literally, since that day. [00:16:47] Speaker C: How she's been wanting to do another one. [00:16:50] Speaker B: And we're off this weekend. [00:16:51] Speaker C: So I was like, we actually made. [00:16:53] Speaker B: This plan. [00:16:56] Speaker C: A couple weekends ago about. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Wanting to do it, and then I'd actually forgot about it until Lindsey reminded. [00:17:02] Speaker C: Me, and I was like, hell, yeah, we're doing that. [00:17:04] Speaker A: We're doing this. [00:17:05] Speaker B: So we're doing the. [00:17:06] Speaker C: We're doing the full. The full spread. Fuck, that's awesome. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Stale cracker style, you know? You know, cracker using his, uh, while we wait, we hydrate. Oh, you know, all that. [00:17:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I must be waiting. [00:17:21] Speaker B: We'll be doing. We'll be doing that. [00:17:23] Speaker C: Hell, you should come down, man. [00:17:25] Speaker A: I would love to. We're getting close to closing on this house, so I'll just say it. Just gonna totally depend on how everything shakes out with all that. We're due for closing on Thursday. Not this Thursday, but. [00:17:38] Speaker C: We'Re holding our big stuff fingers. [00:17:41] Speaker A: All seven of these people that listen to this podcast are about the only seven people that know that that's even happening. [00:17:45] Speaker C: So we're working on it. But hell yeah, man. [00:17:50] Speaker A: I guess we ought to make this. [00:17:51] Speaker C: A NASCAR podcast, shouldn't we? [00:17:54] Speaker B: There's not much NASCAR to talk about, so. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Oh, man. Hey, I'll tell you what. I wrote a little poem about this race. The only thing that makes this race more fun is drinking beer from lap number one. Cause there is nothing else going on. [00:18:07] Speaker C: I'll tell you what. Yeah. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Drinking beer can make any race. [00:18:13] Speaker C: This is the thing. I've said this before. Even a. [00:18:17] Speaker B: Like, a shitty people. People always say this about fishing, and I don't. I don't fish a whole lot, but, like, a good. A bad day fishing is better than. [00:18:24] Speaker C: A good day at work. Yeah. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Same kind of deal with racing. [00:18:27] Speaker C: Like a bad race, drinking beer, hanging out at home. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Still better than a good day at work kind of thing. [00:18:32] Speaker A: That's the most positive thing you've said about a short track since 2021. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:37] Speaker B: I don't have. I don't have much to say. [00:18:40] Speaker C: Everything that needs or should be said. [00:18:44] Speaker B: We have said the last few weeks. Like, I don't. [00:18:46] Speaker C: Yeah, nothing's changed. [00:18:48] Speaker B: They haven't done anything. The drivers say it. And then when Joey Logano can go out and almost win a stage on 180 on lap tires, on, on the left sides. I mean, what more needs to be said than that? I mean, there's just no tire wear. And even Brian Murphy, who now works. [00:19:05] Speaker C: For RFK, screenshotted the picture of, like. [00:19:09] Speaker B: The little tire wear. You know, they wrap the tire wear on the. They scrape it off on the little gauge, you know, whatever. Yeah, he even posted after the 180, 80 laps, he was like, this is not. [00:19:19] Speaker C: The tires aren't even worn out. Yeah, he posted about Lisa raced him. [00:19:24] Speaker A: And it became, in a bad way, part of the strategy at the end of the race, the fact that no tires were wearing out. They tried to build up that final pit stop that Denny Hammond was the. [00:19:35] Speaker C: Only taker, and he ended up dropping. [00:19:38] Speaker A: Two spots after the restart because it. [00:19:40] Speaker C: Didn'T frickin matter that he had brand new goodyears on. Yeah, I could have. [00:19:45] Speaker B: I don't get paid nowhere near the amount of money that Chris gay part gets paid. But you couldn't have paid me to come down pit road at the end of that race. [00:19:53] Speaker A: I mean, I think, to be honest, he was so far for, for Denny Hamlin this year. He was so far back already being. [00:20:01] Speaker C: In fourth, and he can already. He knows that he. [00:20:06] Speaker A: The furthest back he's going to go. [00:20:08] Speaker C: Is 10th to 13th. It was like, you know what? Whatever. We're already. [00:20:12] Speaker A: We're doing good. We're not in. We already have a couple race wins. [00:20:16] Speaker C: And then he. I think it was because already they. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Didn'T even get top ten. [00:20:21] Speaker C: They threw away a top ten. They did. [00:20:24] Speaker A: I mean, I agree with. They're the only ones that had an opportunity to take a chance other than William Byron. [00:20:32] Speaker C: But William Byron's not going to pick from the lead. [00:20:34] Speaker A: I think it was straight up, just a moment of, man, I don't think this is going to do anything for. [00:20:39] Speaker C: Us, but screw it. [00:20:41] Speaker A: The worst we're going to do is somewhere around the early teens. [00:20:44] Speaker C: I don't think. [00:20:45] Speaker A: I don't think Denny's too awful concerned about it. I mean, it does suck to miss out on a top five, but even that wasn't guaranteed. [00:20:53] Speaker C: I will say before that caution, and this happens all the time. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that race is getting towards end. [00:21:00] Speaker C: And I was like, all right, there. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Ain'T gonna be no caution because it's Martinsville. [00:21:04] Speaker C: You know that. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Just 2024 Martin. So there ain't gonna be a caution. [00:21:07] Speaker C: And I made like eight bets, and. [00:21:11] Speaker B: I think, like, seven of them were hitting. [00:21:13] Speaker C: Damn. [00:21:14] Speaker B: No, no shit. [00:21:15] Speaker C: No shit. Like I had, I had. [00:21:22] Speaker B: Let me see here. I had Denny Hamlin as a top Toyota. [00:21:26] Speaker C: I had Ryan Blaney is top Ford. [00:21:29] Speaker B: I had priest in the top ten, bowman in the top ten. [00:21:34] Speaker A: A lot of them still hit. [00:21:38] Speaker B: No, because the part is a parlay with the Toyota. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Gotcha. I thought that whatever you were saying, saying they're all just one. I did. [00:21:48] Speaker B: I ended up. I lost. I lost $2. I bet like $45. [00:21:53] Speaker C: I won 43. [00:21:54] Speaker A: But like Jenny Hamline, you bet, made all these bets. You got ahead. You thought you were good. Then you did something crazy at the end, and you went. [00:22:01] Speaker C: Ended up losing two. If he. If he. [00:22:04] Speaker B: The parlay with him and Blaney, which was hitting, they were running like, they were in like fourth and fifth, right behind the guys. That parlay was like 50 something bucks. And all the other ones would have hit. [00:22:16] Speaker C: So I would have like doubled my money. Yeah. And I had a. [00:22:22] Speaker B: Had Larson to win. [00:22:24] Speaker C: I had Truex to win that. [00:22:28] Speaker B: He ran like dog shit. [00:22:29] Speaker C: He ran like 18th or something. Didn't expect that. Yeah, it was a little. [00:22:34] Speaker A: Little bit of an odd showing for them, but honestly. [00:22:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it was weird. [00:22:38] Speaker A: It's just a matter of where you can end up track position wise at. [00:22:41] Speaker C: This point and a track position race. Totally. [00:22:46] Speaker B: We did a. We started a little family NASCAR fantasy group on the. On the app or whatever, you know. [00:22:53] Speaker C: Yeah. So it's me, Megan, and Mom, and. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Lindsey is now in there, and then dad, I think, joining. [00:23:01] Speaker C: But we couldn't. It's. [00:23:02] Speaker B: It's to your point about NASCAR's app and such. It's the most complicated thing ever to try to, like, make an account and also join the league. [00:23:10] Speaker C: It's. [00:23:11] Speaker B: You got. [00:23:11] Speaker C: It's just stupid, but anyway. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Needs so much work. [00:23:15] Speaker B: And I won. [00:23:19] Speaker C: However you get the points. I don't even know how points get. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Added, but I won. I had 200 points, Megan had 91. [00:23:25] Speaker C: 97, and mom had 190. So we were all pretty close. Dang. [00:23:31] Speaker B: But you go through and you pick like five drivers, and then you have, like one backup guy, and then you. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Also throw in at any point in the race before stage three, right? [00:23:39] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. And you have. [00:23:44] Speaker C: There's like four head to heads. [00:23:45] Speaker B: And you get ten points apiece if you hit those. And I hit the head to heads on there. Way different than the head to heads. [00:23:50] Speaker C: On bar draft kings because the head to heads on there almost like, duh. [00:23:57] Speaker B: Like this guy's gonna finish better than this guy. [00:23:59] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [00:23:59] Speaker B: It's almost like that. [00:24:00] Speaker A: It's more like, is the guy that's better gonna wreck? [00:24:03] Speaker C: Yeah. And so those were, like, pretty easy. And. [00:24:06] Speaker B: But then, you know, draftkings, it's like two guys that run, you know, top five every week or. [00:24:11] Speaker A: Yeah, somehow it's gonna be like Bubba and Larson, they're gonna be hitting each other's bumper the whole freaking time. [00:24:16] Speaker C: Yeah. So anyways, it, you know, all that was cool, fun, whatever. It's just like, the race was just not. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. [00:24:28] Speaker C: It just was a no tire wear. [00:24:33] Speaker B: Damn track position, no passing asked Martinsville race, and these guys can, like, hit. [00:24:39] Speaker C: Each other in the bumper so hard, and it doesn't. [00:24:44] Speaker B: You don't even get moved out of the. I mean, so hard, the drivers talking about their heads are getting thrown back in the seats. [00:24:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it doesn't do a thing. And here's a stat that got sent. [00:24:53] Speaker A: To us by Brandon Lee. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Don't understand. [00:24:56] Speaker A: Race started about 215 or so central time, and at 410. So about 2 hours into this race, two whole hours of this race that. [00:25:07] Speaker C: Was mostly green, almost no cautions, 49. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Green flag passes at the two hour mark. I like moment of silence for the loss of short tracks, but that number. [00:25:20] Speaker C: Should never be that low, not even. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Not even 50. [00:25:25] Speaker C: So you're telling me that nobody, from first all the way down to, whatever, 40th. [00:25:32] Speaker A: Absolutely nobody was faster than the person in front of them, not a single one of them. [00:25:37] Speaker C: That doesn't make any sense to me. That just tells me. [00:25:40] Speaker A: They say to know. [00:25:42] Speaker B: They tell them. I guess it's like these guys come in and they. [00:25:45] Speaker C: They close on a guy so fast, and they can't. [00:25:48] Speaker B: They can't get around him. I mean, you got the guy in the lead. I'm talking about the guy in the. [00:25:53] Speaker C: Lead that has a. [00:25:55] Speaker B: Has over a second lead, can't get around lap cars. And that just lets the second place car get close when the second place car can't pass first and then first. [00:26:03] Speaker C: Can'T pass the lap cars, and as. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Soon as they get to any car. [00:26:08] Speaker C: Okay, so, like, passing the 66 car easy. [00:26:12] Speaker B: It's just is what it is, you know, MB two or whatever, hadn't made. [00:26:15] Speaker C: A start in the cup series. [00:26:18] Speaker B: They've only made, like, one next gen star ever. [00:26:20] Speaker C: But, like, once you get to a car, even like a Harrison Burton, like a quality car, another quality car cannot pass that car. It's true. It's frustrating. You can be. [00:26:36] Speaker B: You can be 2 seconds faster. [00:26:37] Speaker C: I mean. [00:26:38] Speaker B: I mean, literally, the lap times that Larson ran this is in that first run, not even in the other runs when, like, Logano got in traffic or Hamlin got whoever I'm just talking about. [00:26:47] Speaker C: Like, the first one there, they're having problems with, and they're like. He's just put, you know, the. [00:26:53] Speaker B: I know that broadcast has to, like, beef this up a little bit. There's like, he's just, you know, mowing them down. And at one point, there's like, he's. [00:26:59] Speaker C: Already got eleven cars a lap down. It's like a normal Bristol race in the first run. Like, half the packs a lap now. Yeah, it's unbelievable. [00:27:11] Speaker A: I mean, another great example of it is right at the end of the. [00:27:14] Speaker C: Race, Blaney is coming from. [00:27:17] Speaker A: I think he was in about 10th for most of stage three, and then. [00:27:19] Speaker C: Suddenly his car just found something, found. [00:27:22] Speaker A: Some sort of groove, and he actually was able to make some kind of progress. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Yeah, he ran like you heard, and at the end was great. [00:27:28] Speaker C: Yeah, it was weird. [00:27:29] Speaker A: I mean, watching him at the very beginning, it looks like he was riding a bucking bull. If you watched his hands in his head and they literally car, it looked rough. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Like Blaine is going backwards. Then, like, you weren't paying attention to the race, you. They would make it sound like he. [00:27:41] Speaker C: Was, like, driving the wrong way. [00:27:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he first went car. He was. I mean, he was the only one out there that was able to give, I think, 49 of those green flag. If there was 49 green flag passes, about ten of them, almost a quarter. [00:27:53] Speaker C: Of them were just Blainey getting past. [00:27:56] Speaker A: On the first run. Yeah, it was bad. But then all of a sudden he's coming at the end, and next thing you know, Clint Boyers just talk. That's fastest car on the racetrack. [00:28:06] Speaker C: He's coming, boys. [00:28:07] Speaker A: He's coming. 30 laps go by, and he does not pass a single car after he says that because he's up to fifth and he just can't do anything else. 6th, 5th. [00:28:16] Speaker C: Wherever he was at, that was where. [00:28:18] Speaker A: As soon as Clint said it, and I was watching it, too, I was like, dang, he's actually moving. As soon as they put the camera. [00:28:24] Speaker C: On him, it was just like, that's it. [00:28:26] Speaker A: That's all I got. [00:28:27] Speaker B: I'm out. [00:28:28] Speaker A: There's just not enough difference in speed from me to the guy in front. [00:28:31] Speaker C: Of me, and there's nothing I can. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Really do to knock him out of the groove because he can just shift. [00:28:36] Speaker C: And get that speed back. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Yeah, you can hit him fucking going 15 miles an hour faster, and it doesn't do anything. [00:28:42] Speaker C: Yeah, you have to genuinely put somebody. [00:28:45] Speaker A: Out to the third 4th groove, and by the time you hit him that hard. You got, you ain't gonna have a radiator left. [00:28:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I I hate how much momentum everything had, even, like, the races. [00:29:00] Speaker B: And then the races automatically make all the podcasts great. You know, like, everybody has something to talk about, and then everybody made that joke about, like, well, if you can make it through Richmond and Bristol and Martinsville and Texas and, you know, that stretch of tracks, you're a true fan, you know, whatever. [00:29:15] Speaker C: And it's like, now the last, like, four weeks of NASCAR podcast, you know, after the races, it's like everybody still. [00:29:24] Speaker B: Talks about the same things we've been. [00:29:26] Speaker C: Talking about for two years. [00:29:27] Speaker B: We've talked about on here. Same thing we talked about two years. Tire wear, horsepower, shifting, those, like, three things. And it's just like, it's so exhausting and so almost boring to listen to on, like, because I listen to every single podcast, and every single podcast is the same thing every single week about all this. [00:29:48] Speaker C: And, like, we say the same. Worrying. [00:29:50] Speaker A: That weird. Yeah, I've been worried that we've been getting boring because that's the only thing. [00:29:54] Speaker C: We can talk about. [00:29:55] Speaker B: And it's like, this week, like, the other week ago, not last week before last night, I got a lot to say. It was about one of them fucked up races because I don't have a lot to say. I don't. It's just like, no, they're not doing. [00:30:06] Speaker C: Anything, so I don't. I don't care. It's like, they're the drivers. [00:30:11] Speaker B: Get out of the car. I mean, you're talking about these world class drivers. They're like, I won't even know. And I wouldn't even know anything was different about. [00:30:18] Speaker C: They have. [00:30:19] Speaker B: They say this tires got more rubber on it. You know, it's supposed to be gummier and got more rubber on it. They say they've done all this stuff. The short track package. You need guys like Kyle Larson, Denny. [00:30:27] Speaker C: Hamlin, Chase Elliott, Justin Haley, Brad, kids. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Last to get out of the car. [00:30:31] Speaker C: And, like, if you didn't tell me, like, if you weren't sitting here and told me something was different, I would have never known. Yep. Why even watch? [00:30:45] Speaker B: Almost, like, yesterday, like, I missed the first. I didn't miss the first part of the race, but I was listening the. [00:30:48] Speaker C: Race on the way home, and then. [00:30:52] Speaker B: I got home, like, halfway through, but. [00:30:54] Speaker C: I was like, I didn't even really. I wasn't even, like, tore up, you. [00:30:57] Speaker B: Know, I was like, whatever, you know, they just. [00:30:59] Speaker C: They didn't pass. [00:31:00] Speaker B: I didn't miss a single thing. [00:31:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:03] Speaker B: You could always see bumping runs. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Nothing. [00:31:06] Speaker B: I watched the first. I watched the end of the Braves game come back for them to win. I watched them sweep the diamondbacks for. I flipped over to the race full time. [00:31:13] Speaker C: Just cause, like, I don't know. [00:31:15] Speaker A: You know, even if you missed 100 laps of that race, you still saw all 100 laps of that race that. [00:31:22] Speaker C: You missed because it was the same. [00:31:24] Speaker A: As the next hundred laps. Nobody's gonna really change. [00:31:28] Speaker C: To hear. [00:31:28] Speaker B: To hear, these guys, like that are professionals that are in racing, say, like. [00:31:34] Speaker C: Whoever gets the lead coming out of. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Turn two, or whoever gets the advantage coming out of turn two, that's your leader. [00:31:40] Speaker C: So when we go to Phoenix or. [00:31:43] Speaker B: Whatever, it's been the same way the past few years. [00:31:45] Speaker C: Everybody's like, it's the pit stop. Everything's on pit road. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Chase Briscoe literally said on the radio, he said. He said, I cannot pass cars out here. Like, if we're gonna pass cars, we. [00:31:56] Speaker C: Gotta know on pit road. He said that. [00:31:57] Speaker B: And then the crew chief was like, ten four. You're right. Like, nobody can pass out here. [00:32:01] Speaker C: It's like, yeah, pit stops are great. [00:32:03] Speaker B: And I love pit stops, but I'm. [00:32:04] Speaker C: Not watching a race to see the. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Race on pit road. [00:32:10] Speaker C: I know. [00:32:10] Speaker A: It's almost like the joke is that they started interviewing and showing the pit crew members, because they're the more important this year than they ever have been in the entirety of the history of NASCAR. [00:32:19] Speaker C: They've always been incredibly important there. [00:32:23] Speaker A: I would say about 40% of your. [00:32:24] Speaker C: Race is your pit crew because they've. [00:32:26] Speaker A: Got a 60% driver. The narrow dance, like, flip it, 40% driver, 60% pit crew. As long as your driver doesn't spin himself out, hit the wall, or hit. [00:32:37] Speaker C: Somebody else, it's good enough, man. [00:32:40] Speaker A: Just as long as you don't lose any spots, you ain't gonna gain any. So you're doing your job. [00:32:43] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:32:45] Speaker B: As long as a short track. [00:32:48] Speaker C: It just. I don't know. [00:32:51] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know what to say. And they're not. I don't know until they drastically do something. And so you're gonna have to be bring a tire like Bristol, where you. [00:33:00] Speaker C: Don'T have to worry about horsepower or give these guys a thousand plus, because. [00:33:05] Speaker B: Tyler Reddick and Justin Haley have said that even they don't even know if a thousand would burn the tires off. [00:33:10] Speaker C: These cars because they're so big. Yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker B: And they're so hard to do more. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Than we're doing now. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Oh, it do way more we're doing now. [00:33:17] Speaker C: I'm just saying, like, something to where the tires spin. [00:33:23] Speaker B: Honestly, I'm not even gonna go into it. I've went into it a million times. I don't even talk about it. Let's talk about something else. I don't even. [00:33:28] Speaker C: I'm with you, tire wear. [00:33:30] Speaker B: I just don't even want to talk about it. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, as much as we've already talked about it, it's like, what else can we really say the same? [00:33:36] Speaker B: I feel like I'm a broken record. [00:33:38] Speaker C: Damn. Shit. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Every week about these short tracks. And I'm just. I'm sick of me and you talking about it. And I'm sick of having to listen to Dale Junior and Denny Hamlin and door bumper clear and. And Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi, because. [00:33:52] Speaker C: I'll listen to all those podcasts. Yeah. [00:33:54] Speaker B: And it's like, everybody. [00:33:55] Speaker A: I love the podcast, too, but it's all high. There's only so many times you can listen to it. And it's just. Yeah, I completely agree with what you're. [00:34:03] Speaker C: Saying, but I completely agreed with it. [00:34:05] Speaker A: Last week when you said the same thing. So it's like, I just gonna skip this episode in the same way you're saying, might as well skip this race if we already know. [00:34:11] Speaker C: What's the only thing that's different is. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Who ends up in first at the last. [00:34:15] Speaker C: After the last pit stop. Yeah. Other than that, you just don't know. [00:34:20] Speaker A: I mean, I was explaining it to. I watched the race at my brother Kevin's house. [00:34:26] Speaker C: My older brother and him, his wife, robin, and his son hunter were all there, and mom was there, and they. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Were kind of asking questions. They made a joke whenever we sat down. The Iowa and South Carolina game was going on at the same time as the race for the women's basketball tournament, which, by the way, hellacious amount of attention on that. It's been wild to hear about it so much. [00:34:48] Speaker C: Popular women's bat. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Not just women's basketball, just basketball in general. I've never heard. [00:34:53] Speaker C: Yeah. So many people talk about basketball. And, you know, that's funny. [00:34:59] Speaker B: We always talk about, like, personalities and stuff in racing. And this is coming from someone who doesn't know anything about basketball, but I just have heard so much about it. Everybody talks about all these, like, awesome personalities you have in base basketball now with, like, the. Caitlin Clark and the. The girl, the angel girl from LSU, like, LSU's coach and then this coach and this coach. It's like, you got all these crazy awesome personalities that people latch on to. And it's like, I either love this, I love this person, so I hate this person, or I hate this person. [00:35:30] Speaker C: I love this person anyway, I just. [00:35:33] Speaker B: That's comparable to racing of what we. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Always talk about, like, is personality. [00:35:37] Speaker C: Sell tickets. They really do. [00:35:40] Speaker A: I wish our drivers had more of an opportunity to show that personality. [00:35:44] Speaker C: But right now, you see all five. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Of the top five guys get out. [00:35:48] Speaker C: Of their car and they just look like they got down with, you know. [00:35:51] Speaker A: Like a relaxing Sunday drive. I know they are exhausted, but nobody's mad at each other. Nobody's frustrated with each other because everybody's frustrated about the product that's being brought. [00:36:00] Speaker C: Up to track every week. If you already know you're not every. [00:36:03] Speaker A: Single one of them, there's no, there's no reason to be mad at anybody else. If somebody bumps the hell out of you, it's like, I get it, man. Like, that's the only way you're going to get me out of the way to pass me. [00:36:11] Speaker C: So I get it. [00:36:12] Speaker A: I'll do the same thing in your position. [00:36:14] Speaker B: I saw, I saw a guy ask Kyle Larson. It was right after they had, like. [00:36:19] Speaker C: All done the, done the, you know. [00:36:21] Speaker B: This is so cool for the 40th anniversary and all this, and that's all cool and fine and dandy. Then they asked another question, and they literally go, well, Ryan Blaney said nothing's changed, and it's hard to pass out there. Like, what do you think? [00:36:32] Speaker C: And he's like, yeah, same thing I've been saying. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Like, even the drivers don't even give answers anymore because it's like, what else. [00:36:38] Speaker C: Do you want me to say? [00:36:38] Speaker B: It's like, you can't pass. [00:36:40] Speaker C: Okay, next question. [00:36:42] Speaker B: I can have a car 2 seconds faster than yours. I can't pass you. [00:36:45] Speaker C: Next question. Yeah, I feel like the, one of. [00:36:49] Speaker A: The major problems we have is that NASCAR isn't threatened by anything else. F one's the nearest, closest thing to. [00:36:55] Speaker C: Taking over to them. [00:36:57] Speaker A: Uh, you can technically put that in the car, I guess, in that same. [00:37:00] Speaker C: Bracket, but everybody makes fun of f one. [00:37:04] Speaker A: And IndyCar just doesn't really have the traction yet to really be a threat to NASCAR. [00:37:09] Speaker C: So it's like, you know what? [00:37:10] Speaker A: We're still the most popular motorsport in America. [00:37:13] Speaker C: We're still doing something right. So I feel like there's just not. [00:37:15] Speaker A: A whole lot of reason for them to give a damn. They're having the best year that they've had in a while, so they're going. [00:37:20] Speaker C: To point at those numbers and be. [00:37:21] Speaker A: Like, hey, look at these numbers that we're having. [00:37:23] Speaker C: We're up every. [00:37:24] Speaker A: We're up across the board. [00:37:26] Speaker C: It's like, yeah, because of Netflix showing the personalities of the drivers and showing. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Who they really are and getting people actually interested. [00:37:34] Speaker C: But then as soon as they get. [00:37:35] Speaker A: On watching these, they watch the first five races, and they're enthralled, and they're loving it. I was loving it. [00:37:41] Speaker C: You were loving it. [00:37:42] Speaker A: And we called it before this series. [00:37:44] Speaker C: This string of races came around, and. [00:37:48] Speaker A: We still got another one to go. [00:37:49] Speaker C: It's like, there's not a whole lot to love right now. [00:37:52] Speaker A: You've pretty much stalled our. You've stalled our ability to make this. Not that we're big, not that we're making any way their opinions or anything, but anybody on a podcast, anybody on a. [00:38:05] Speaker C: On race of every weekday, it's like, what can you. [00:38:08] Speaker A: What more can they do to keep this entertaining? Because it's just not entertaining right now. You. [00:38:13] Speaker C: You're. [00:38:14] Speaker A: And, man, the announcers are doing the best they can. Clint Boyers doing the best he can. They're shoving hot dogs in his face, trying to get him to comment on. [00:38:22] Speaker C: Something other than this boring race. There's just. [00:38:25] Speaker A: I'm running. We're running out of ideas. [00:38:27] Speaker B: We're running all. You gotta know. [00:38:30] Speaker A: It's more entertaining to watch truck race anymore. [00:38:33] Speaker C: In the. In the. [00:38:34] Speaker B: In the Richmond race, we're in the middle of a green flag run, and. [00:38:39] Speaker C: They cut away to do a segment. [00:38:42] Speaker B: On Kevin Harvick's podcast. They cut away to do. They've got Keelan Harvick in the booth. They cut away to talk to him. [00:38:50] Speaker C: And there was something else. [00:38:51] Speaker B: I made a post about. There was something else. [00:38:53] Speaker C: Oh, they started showing pit stops from Koda. [00:38:56] Speaker B: They take that the race that was happening at Richmond wasn't even on the screen. [00:39:01] Speaker C: They don't. [00:39:02] Speaker B: I literally made the post. I was like, the racing is so boring, and they have nothing to talk about that we are looking at pit stops from Koda. We're looking at Kevin Harvick, and we are looking at Kevin Harvick's podcast. We're not side by side. We're not still talking about the race. We're taking 30 seconds to a minute chunks off of this to talk about something else, because there is literally nothing they could say about the passing or nothing. [00:39:29] Speaker C: They can't. They. They can't. Yeah. And at the end of the day. [00:39:34] Speaker A: If they're worried about money, then why. [00:39:36] Speaker C: Did we get a new tv deal that increased the amount of revenue that. [00:39:41] Speaker A: NASCAR is bringing in. If they have the funds, they have. [00:39:46] Speaker C: The ability now to do something about it, and I don't. [00:39:52] Speaker A: And who knows? [00:39:52] Speaker C: Like, somebody posted it best the other day. [00:39:55] Speaker A: They, it was an independent little news NASCAR news Twitter feed. It didn't have a lot of followers. [00:40:02] Speaker C: Kind of like us just doing our. [00:40:04] Speaker A: Best to relay the news as we. [00:40:06] Speaker C: Hear it to the seven people that care to listen to us talk about it. [00:40:11] Speaker A: And he posted something that was incorrect and somebody said something to him and. [00:40:17] Speaker B: Made. [00:40:19] Speaker C: Fun of him. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Freddie Kraft making fun of him for it. It wasn't. He got all personally butthurt and everything. Yeah, but he made a really good. [00:40:27] Speaker C: Point of, you know, we're just a. [00:40:30] Speaker A: Bunch of independent guys out here and we're trying our best to just keep people entertained. And it's just, we're doing this because we love it. Sorry that I fell for your April fool's joke because, yes, Freddie Kraft fool. [00:40:41] Speaker C: Something incorrect and he did it intentionally. [00:40:44] Speaker B: About Denny getting penalized for the restart. And it was April. [00:40:47] Speaker C: It was a joke. It was a joke. [00:40:49] Speaker A: And the, and the guy thought it was true, so he posted about it and it's no big deal. It was something like that. But that's the thing is we don't have insider information. The best we got is whatever Brandon tells us or whatever Wade tells us. [00:41:02] Speaker C: And, you know, it's nice to hear. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Those things every now and then, but. [00:41:05] Speaker C: We don't hear about a ton. [00:41:07] Speaker A: So who knows? Maybe NASCAR is thinking about something. Maybe they're doing something behind the scenes that nobody knows. [00:41:12] Speaker B: The driver, the driver like it. That driver you talk about, the drivers. [00:41:18] Speaker A: Don'T act like it. The owners don't act like it. There's something that could be done, but. [00:41:21] Speaker C: It just isn't getting done because why do it? [00:41:25] Speaker A: Why spend the money when we're up across the board? [00:41:27] Speaker B: The best part of all this is, is having guys like Brad Keselowski and Denny Hamlin, who are drivers and owners because they say stuff like this, and we've said it before here. They have the books in front of. [00:41:37] Speaker C: Their face and both of them have. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Said, the money that it there by someone, I'll save money, save money, save money. [00:41:45] Speaker C: The money it takes to build this. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Race car and show up at the. [00:41:49] Speaker C: Track each week has not changed. Yeah. [00:41:52] Speaker A: And they just getting relocated somewhere else. [00:41:55] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:41:56] Speaker B: And they say, you know, they did money, you know, want to save money on these engines. Then he says the engine bill ain't changed. [00:42:01] Speaker C: In. In 20 years. [00:42:03] Speaker B: Same money that we put in engines 20 years ago, and they did have. [00:42:07] Speaker C: 900 to a thousand horsepower. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Same money we're putting in engines now. [00:42:11] Speaker C: That have whatever the fuck they have now. And, yeah, on the podcast a few. [00:42:18] Speaker A: Weeks ago, if you remember when, you know what? You save me money here, I'm gonna put that money somewhere else. Just because Hendrix doesn't have to spend. [00:42:26] Speaker C: As much money on the chassis doesn't. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Mean that he isn't still spending that money on something else. Yeah, so what's the point? [00:42:33] Speaker C: What are you really doing? [00:42:34] Speaker A: Unless you're gonna give them the car. [00:42:37] Speaker C: You'Re not gonna save them any money. And the teams, honestly, some of the. [00:42:42] Speaker A: Smaller and mid tier teams probably cared about saving a little bit of money. They probably heard that and were ecstatic. [00:42:49] Speaker C: But the people that run up front. [00:42:50] Speaker A: The people that pay the bills for NASCAR, that genuinely get fans there, like the chase Elliott effect that they always. [00:42:55] Speaker C: Talk about, Kyle Larson, anybody running up front all day long, every single week. [00:43:02] Speaker A: Those guys. [00:43:03] Speaker C: Their teams do not care about money. Those guys. Teams have money to burn. [00:43:08] Speaker A: So, really, all we did was try to help out the mid tier guys. And technically, we did. We're having closer finishes than ever before, but we hurt the product in an. [00:43:15] Speaker C: Effort to do that. [00:43:16] Speaker A: And there's always been mid tier teams. [00:43:18] Speaker C: That came and went, went out of. [00:43:20] Speaker A: Business, went into business. [00:43:22] Speaker C: At the end of the day, nothing's. [00:43:23] Speaker A: Really going to be any different. It's still hellaciously expensive to run a NASCAR cup service. [00:43:28] Speaker C: And I also here, again, I'm going. [00:43:31] Speaker B: To talk about brackets and Denny Hamlin. [00:43:33] Speaker C: Which are two guys that did that. [00:43:35] Speaker B: Did not come from richness. They came from nothing and made themselves rich and famous and very successful. They are also on board with the whole. All of these blue collar NASCAR average. [00:43:50] Speaker C: Americans that make, you know, normal, middle class money. [00:43:55] Speaker B: No one wants to hear about how billion dollar billionaires, we're talking about billionaires. [00:44:02] Speaker C: Between, you know, Roger Penske and Rick. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Hendrick and Michael Jordan. [00:44:09] Speaker C: All these guys, Joe, Gil Jordan, we're talking. [00:44:12] Speaker B: No one wants to hear about how billionaires. [00:44:15] Speaker C: They're trying to save billionaires money. [00:44:17] Speaker B: So quit shoving that down everybody's throat every week. [00:44:20] Speaker C: No one wants to hear that. [00:44:22] Speaker B: And it is so refreshing to hear those guys say that. [00:44:25] Speaker C: Because it's true. Exactly. It's true. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Honestly, if. If you're getting into NASCAR, it's not because you care about your money more than you care about racing. Because if you really cared about money. [00:44:35] Speaker C: More than racing, you'd be racing bicycles. There's no way around thing ever. And I'm not gonna, like, say specifically. [00:44:43] Speaker B: All the people that I see on here, I'm talking about, but I see posts on Twitter and it's guys who. [00:44:48] Speaker C: Are like mid tier Xfinity Series teams. [00:44:52] Speaker B: And they post on a weekend about. [00:44:55] Speaker C: These hotels they're staying at and these. [00:44:57] Speaker B: Big fancy dinners they're going to and. [00:44:59] Speaker C: All this, and it's like, but y'all, y'all all talk about how you're underfunded and all this shit. It's like, if I was underfunded, I. [00:45:08] Speaker B: Don'T think I'd be eating $150 steak in Las Vegas at the nicest steakhouse that's there, beating bees with a hundred. [00:45:15] Speaker C: Same, you know, and having a $200. [00:45:18] Speaker B: Bottle of wine on the table and all this stuff. [00:45:20] Speaker C: It's like the correlation, man, is just ass backwards, you know? It ain't, it ain't. [00:45:29] Speaker B: I don't really know. I don't know. It's just all that's so weird. It's so. It's. It's my favorite saying in the world is like, they just love pissing on. [00:45:36] Speaker C: You and telling you it's raining. [00:45:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a good way to put it. [00:45:40] Speaker C: You can only. Can only handle so much of that. [00:45:43] Speaker B: From all aspects from, like, my favorite one is hoping Bristol up every single year. [00:45:49] Speaker C: And Bristol, you know, we say, you. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Know, and it's changed a little bit. Now, talking about the hottest ticket. We're talking about the hottest ticket in race and all this that and other. [00:45:59] Speaker C: And you go to Bristol, and I'm. [00:46:02] Speaker B: Not trying to be a boomer here and make it sound like it's half full, but, you know, 80,000 people, you know, you know, when it's holds whatever, it's like, hottest ticket. If it's the hottest ticket in racing, I'd imagine that there'd be 140,000 people. [00:46:14] Speaker C: There, you know, and it's like, you. [00:46:16] Speaker B: Get in, Bristol was awesome this year because of the tire, but, you know, you hop this thing up and it's. [00:46:23] Speaker C: Just the same thing. Yeah, it's. [00:46:26] Speaker A: NASCAR is doing a great job in the PR department right now. They're doing a phenomenal job in the PR department. They're getting people interested. [00:46:32] Speaker C: They're getting people watching. Now, we need to translate that into people showing up. And the only way you're gonna get. [00:46:39] Speaker A: People to show up week after week after week is to have week after week after week of good racing. Otherwise you're gonna have the places that are performing well. [00:46:48] Speaker C: Atlanta Charlotte, all those other tracks that California, Daytona. Yep. [00:46:54] Speaker A: All where the race. Exciting. Super close. [00:46:58] Speaker C: You're gonna have people showing up there. [00:47:00] Speaker A: And you're gonna have empty stands everywhere else. [00:47:02] Speaker C: There's Wilkes barrel, because that place is. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Gonna be packed regardless. [00:47:06] Speaker C: Yeah, there's people. I think, like, if you. If you were near Bristol, say you've been to Bristol before, and you got. You can go spend all this money. [00:47:16] Speaker B: On Bristol, or it's like. [00:47:17] Speaker C: Or I could save my money and. [00:47:20] Speaker B: Make a trip to go out west to see this banging ass race at Las Vegas. [00:47:25] Speaker C: Yeah, there's probably people out there now. [00:47:29] Speaker B: That would say, I'm. I'd rather go across the country and. [00:47:32] Speaker C: Watch a race at Vegas than see a race. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Not even Bristol. Richmond's in the same part of the country. Richmond. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Well, you. [00:47:40] Speaker C: You heard Martin. [00:47:42] Speaker A: You saw me know. Post about that on Twitter a few. [00:47:44] Speaker C: Weeks back where I said at bristol, you have this type of race, and it's not funny. And the problem with it is, I. [00:47:54] Speaker A: Can'T remember if I was talking about Bristol or where the hell I was talking about, but I was saying, short tracks in general. Is this the longest short track in general? [00:48:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:02] Speaker A: No, no, not the long thread I. [00:48:03] Speaker C: Posted, which I still stand by. Everything I said there, I said, if. [00:48:10] Speaker A: You look in the four hour radius. [00:48:13] Speaker C: Of Bristol, there are five to six other tracks that all perform better with. [00:48:21] Speaker A: This current setup of a car. And you're telling me that you're trying to attract your major fan base, which. [00:48:26] Speaker C: Is all in the southeast. You want to attract them to every. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Single one of those races, and you want to sell every one of those out. The problem is, if I'm a consumer. [00:48:33] Speaker C: Right now, with the way the economy is working, the way ticket prices are, I'm going to have to make a. [00:48:39] Speaker A: Decision about which of those tracks I. [00:48:41] Speaker C: Want to go to. [00:48:42] Speaker A: And you're telling me I have five different options within a four hour radius. [00:48:45] Speaker C: And people travel for NASCAR events now. [00:48:48] Speaker A: So it's not a hard. It's not a hard sell to make somebody drive 4 hours in any direction. You're telling me I have a choice between five to six different tracks. I'm not going to choose Bristol this year. [00:48:59] Speaker C: I'm just not. [00:49:00] Speaker A: It's not even on my radar of a track I want to go to. You're competing against Darlington, you're competing against Richmond. [00:49:05] Speaker C: Martinsville, you're competing against charlotte, which is. [00:49:09] Speaker A: A hell of a race. [00:49:09] Speaker C: Now, talladega, all these tracks that are. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Within a four hour radius of Bristol, you're telling me that you're not going. [00:49:15] Speaker C: To sell me on that ticket, you're. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Gonna sell me to any one of those other ones. Cuz I'm still, I'm still standing by. NASCAR is doing a great job on. [00:49:22] Speaker C: All those other tracks, but there's a. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Lot of different people that want to go to a lot of different types of racing. And at the end of the day, we can't give it a Charlotte and Darlington every week. [00:49:31] Speaker C: We gotta have something else going on. Yeah. So, I mean, I mean, me and. [00:49:36] Speaker B: You on the bus circles. [00:49:39] Speaker C: Yeah, we had the same conversation. [00:49:41] Speaker B: It was like what used to make all of the tracks? You could have. You could have four short tracks, but all four of those short tracks were completely different. You could have a few mile and a half and all those mile and. [00:49:52] Speaker C: A half were completely different. [00:49:54] Speaker B: You had the couple road courses, those road courses ran completely different. You had Daytona and Talladega completely different because everybody talked about handling at Daytona. [00:50:03] Speaker C: And just trimmed out at Talladega. Like everything was different. [00:50:08] Speaker B: And there's always like this uncertainty, which I've told you, I have realized now, is what like, made me a fan was uncertainty over these races and never, literally, never knowing what was going to. [00:50:19] Speaker C: Happen until Jimmy Johnson came along and he won a race every third race. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Statistically that's a fact. He won a race every third race. I'm just joking, but you know what I'm saying? [00:50:27] Speaker C: Like, that's what was so cool. And now it's like only short track, specifically you. We could literally tell you what's gonna happen and we're too idiot. [00:50:41] Speaker B: I can't tell you who's gonna win. [00:50:42] Speaker A: It and I can tell you how it's a run. [00:50:44] Speaker C: Exactly. And who's buying a ticket to that. I don't know. [00:50:51] Speaker A: I mean, like, I said that to an. [00:50:53] Speaker B: What do you say you take it. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Back to an old argument that happened when this next gen car got announced, when they said they're gonna go to a single lug and they're gonna go to 18 inch tires that had a. [00:51:03] Speaker C: Lot more width to them. [00:51:05] Speaker A: There's so many differences between that tire. [00:51:08] Speaker C: Even down to something as wild as. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Something that I never even heard anybody bring up or thought about back in the day. [00:51:14] Speaker B: But because it's called answer this on the podcast right now. Mom, you're live on the podcast. Don't say anything crazy. [00:51:24] Speaker C: You're on the microphone. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Sup, Randy? [00:51:29] Speaker C: Caleb said, what's up? [00:51:32] Speaker B: She texted me yesterday or this morning. [00:51:34] Speaker C: And asked me if we were doing one. Hell yeah, we are. [00:51:39] Speaker A: What does your mom have to say to them, to the general public about this race? [00:51:42] Speaker B: What do you have to say? Caleb said, what do you have to say to the general public about this last week now that you're a fantasy. [00:51:47] Speaker C: NASCAR owner in your little league work? It was a lot of fun. Even though I didn't have a what I was doing, I enjoyed doing it with you and Megan. There we go. [00:51:58] Speaker B: She enjoyed. [00:51:59] Speaker C: She enjoyed it. [00:52:01] Speaker B: That made her enjoy the race by picking people. [00:52:03] Speaker C: And she had fun doing it with me and Megan. Meg's on here, too. Megan is also on here. [00:52:12] Speaker A: Megan, what did you have to say. [00:52:13] Speaker C: About the race, Caleb? [00:52:15] Speaker B: Megan said, what did you have to say about the race, Megan? Megan is a closet Gibbs fan for everyone that needs to know. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Little tiny squirrel boy. [00:52:39] Speaker B: We're not going to tell the public what Megan said about being a Gibbs fan because that is not suitable for the public to hear. But I just want everybody to know that Megan has an incredible saying about being a Ty Gibbs fan that I will not repeat on this podcast. [00:52:52] Speaker A: Can't wait to hear it or see it on Twitter page later. [00:52:55] Speaker B: No, I can't even post it on Twitter, but I'll tell you later, Caleb. What she said. [00:52:58] Speaker A: Wow, Megan. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Anyway, you need Jesus. I'm gonna let y'all go. Caleb said, you need Jesus, Megan, for saying something that crazy. Um, anyway, I'm gonna let y'all go and, uh, I'll be done here in a little while. [00:53:10] Speaker C: Call you back. All right, love you. [00:53:14] Speaker B: Bye. Sorry. I just knew mom would enjoy that. [00:53:19] Speaker A: Technically, we just had our second and third guests on the podcast right there. [00:53:23] Speaker C: Yeah, pretty funny. [00:53:25] Speaker B: Lindsey also walked in here and said, hey, Caleb, earlier. [00:53:28] Speaker A: Oh, dang, I didn't hear. I must have been talking too much about tires. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Is that happens in Texas with you. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Still, or does she have ended up having to leave? She had to go back to the. She had to go back to work. She is having meetings today that are. [00:53:42] Speaker C: Really important, that I'm really excited about. And are they meetings with people we know? Yes. [00:53:51] Speaker A: But that's about as far as I am willing to go. [00:53:53] Speaker B: I will go any further, but it's good to know. [00:53:56] Speaker C: It's exciting. [00:53:57] Speaker A: It's exciting to see all this play out right in front of you. So she's having those meetings today, and I'm very anxiously awaiting the results. She just texted. They must have met for a long time because she didn't text me for about 4 hours still, just right as we started this podcast. [00:54:10] Speaker C: So I love that. I love that for everybody involved. Absolutely. [00:54:15] Speaker A: Me too. [00:54:16] Speaker B: But that was a good little more action. [00:54:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:19] Speaker A: On a more positive note, we did have a little bit of a scuffle. [00:54:22] Speaker C: Between Timmy hill and Stuart friesen after stewart dumped timmy hill in the middle. [00:54:29] Speaker A: I think that was turn two or. [00:54:30] Speaker C: Turn one, wasn't it? I couldn't tell you. [00:54:33] Speaker B: I didn't watch truck race. I just saw it on twitter and. [00:54:36] Speaker C: We were come up. [00:54:39] Speaker B: I didn't have the ball. I couldn't. I was in an opportunity where I either was too loud or I couldn't turn the volume up. So I still ain't heard the video. [00:54:45] Speaker C: Yet to this moment. [00:54:47] Speaker A: So you too loud. [00:54:48] Speaker C: You know more about it. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Yeah. He dumped them. I want to say it was turn one. It was getting close to the end of the race. I obviously didn't get to watch the Turk race either. We were in the middle of festival. [00:54:58] Speaker C: Hell at the time. [00:55:00] Speaker A: And Timmy comes up to him after. [00:55:02] Speaker C: The race and just yells one of the best sayings I've heard out of. [00:55:08] Speaker A: The truck series lately. He yells, you gotta be better than these effing kids. [00:55:12] Speaker C: That made my day. [00:55:13] Speaker A: That made my day. [00:55:15] Speaker C: Someone getting in Stuart Friesen's craw after. [00:55:18] Speaker A: He just beat up on, scuffled one of his, one of those little kids. [00:55:23] Speaker C: And Nick Sanchez the other day, he. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Just was shaking him around and all that. Now next week, he acts like a. [00:55:27] Speaker C: Little kid on the racetrack. [00:55:29] Speaker A: Man, talk about somebody that goes out. [00:55:31] Speaker C: There and just makes another fool themselves out of frustration. [00:55:35] Speaker A: Granted, I've been there, but you know what? I got laughed at, too. [00:55:38] Speaker C: So. Sorry, Stuart. We're gonna have to poke a little fun at you. [00:55:43] Speaker A: That was. That was really fun. I am enjoying all the, all the under series a lot more this year than I did last year. Probably because we're in the middle of short track hell in NASCAR, in the cup series. So it's more entertaining to watch the. [00:55:56] Speaker C: Lower series at this point. That is true. [00:56:01] Speaker B: I was going to hit on. [00:56:03] Speaker C: Hit on Texas real quick, man. [00:56:07] Speaker B: I do not know what to expect. Here is, here's the running order at Texas last year. [00:56:11] Speaker C: William Byron Chastain, Bubba Cbell, Hamlin Harvick, Kez Suarez, Stenhouse Briscoe. That was your top ten. [00:56:22] Speaker A: That's a wild top ten. [00:56:24] Speaker C: Yes. [00:56:24] Speaker A: This is a really interesting top ten. [00:56:27] Speaker B: This is the race where Bubba qualified on the pole. And at the end of the race, there's a late rate cause late race caution. And Bubba and Larson were racing side by side. Larson got loose on the inside of him and backed into the wall. [00:56:41] Speaker C: This is that race. Yeah. So I don't really know what to expect. [00:56:46] Speaker B: Texas, I'm pretty sure they blow a lot of tires there. [00:56:49] Speaker A: If I remember correctly, this was another. [00:56:51] Speaker C: One of those right rears, wasn't it? [00:56:53] Speaker B: Right with that. [00:56:54] Speaker C: Like Kansas. [00:56:55] Speaker B: I'm fine with tires blowing. I'll be that guy y'all can hate on me. All I want. All you want. I'm fine with tires blowing. I don't care anymore. I'm tired. I'm. [00:57:03] Speaker C: I'm tired of it. [00:57:04] Speaker B: I'm ready for some blown tires. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Dawson's missing tire fall off so much. He really wants the tires to literally fall off. At this point. [00:57:11] Speaker C: I just need something to happen. And, yeah, mega sucks, but it is. But I'm from Texas, the state of. [00:57:20] Speaker B: Texas, and everybody in Texas is fine. I love Texas. I'm just talking specifically about the track I love. [00:57:26] Speaker A: There's just about a mile from the motor speedway you can't stand. [00:57:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:30] Speaker B: And Texas has been bad for a long time. Not even with next year. Texas been bad for a long time. [00:57:36] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:57:37] Speaker C: We haven't even brought it up. What? [00:57:41] Speaker A: Marcus Smith and Denny Hamlin getting into it on Twitter. [00:57:45] Speaker B: I can't wait to hear Denny's podcast for him to talk about. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Oh, me neither. And because he makes fun of. Denny, makes fun of Marcus for the Texas reconfiguration as part of it. He made fun of him for Bristol, he made fun of him for Texas. He made fun of him for Sonoma, Kentucky. Just his bad track record of reconfiguring racetracks. [00:58:03] Speaker C: My friend from Bristol, dirt. Great little Twitter war they were. Love it. [00:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Like a little kid. [00:58:14] Speaker C: Oh, he was any. [00:58:15] Speaker B: Hamlin was kind of acting like a bully. [00:58:17] Speaker C: And it was great. It was great. [00:58:19] Speaker A: I think their true personalities came out right there. [00:58:22] Speaker B: I literally saw it the minute it got posted. I sent it to Caleb jokingly and said, this is the rivalry we never knew we needed. I turned my phone off, put it. [00:58:31] Speaker C: In my little bunk side piece there, went to bed. [00:58:34] Speaker B: I wake up and Caleb is texting me the whole entire thing. I was like, holy shit. I did not know this is what was going to happen off that. You know, him saying that on that. [00:58:44] Speaker C: That little first tweet there. [00:58:46] Speaker A: They have since deleted it, haven't they? [00:58:49] Speaker B: The first tweet is still there, but everything else. [00:58:51] Speaker C: Yes. Has been deleted. [00:58:53] Speaker A: Man. Twitter needs to remove the delete button. As much as I use it, Twitter needs to pull it away. You know what? [00:58:59] Speaker C: If you say it, stand by it. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Matt McKinney lives by the delete button. [00:59:03] Speaker C: So. [00:59:08] Speaker A: I think his pub deal hangs on the balance. [00:59:10] Speaker C: Oh, man. [00:59:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:59:14] Speaker B: I don't know what to say about it. I am just so excited to hear. [00:59:19] Speaker C: Oh, I love it. [00:59:20] Speaker B: I am so excited to hear Denny talk about it. And Denny, I heard, I only saw one person, Bob packers, the man of the people, asked him something about it. [00:59:29] Speaker C: And he was like basically just like. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Let my emotions get the best of me. It got way too personal. [00:59:35] Speaker C: And I told you, this is 1000%. [00:59:40] Speaker B: But an underlying issue for Denny Hamlin. He has been thinking about this for a long time because he brought it up on his podcast like nonchalantly and. [00:59:50] Speaker A: Like two weeks ago and brought an. [00:59:52] Speaker B: Opera, saw an opportunity and that literally struck the match for him to say pretty much everything. [00:59:59] Speaker C: I think that's been like in his mind for probably way longer than this, but like for sure has been on. [01:00:06] Speaker B: His mind heavy for like the last month. [01:00:08] Speaker C: I would guarantee we need to, out. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Of all the things that NASCAR has made illegal that were fun, we need to eliminate and make illegal media training because that was entertaining. That was. Denny says he got this. He let his emotions get the best of him. [01:00:26] Speaker C: I say, screw that. [01:00:29] Speaker A: You were exactly where you wanted to be and you said exactly what you wanted to say. That's not letting your emotions get the better of you. Letting your emotions get the better of you is punching somebody in the face. [01:00:40] Speaker C: It's not telling them what you think. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, come on, that's just like getting out of the car and screaming at somebody at their car. Nobody's gonna get mad at you about. [01:00:48] Speaker C: That except for their fans. Talk. Marcus Smith fan so just let it fly. [01:00:54] Speaker B: Smith does not have many fans and that's what I was trying to tell you. But like, people. [01:00:59] Speaker C: People. Oh, yeah. [01:01:00] Speaker B: Not even just fans. Like, there have been people in the industry that have hated the moves they have made since his dad was around. [01:01:07] Speaker C: When the boom started happening and oh. [01:01:09] Speaker B: He, it all started like 20 years. [01:01:12] Speaker C: Ago and it just continues. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Still continues. [01:01:15] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's just now like, I don't. [01:01:19] Speaker B: Know, I just feel like everyone we're talking about these short tracks specifically better. So many things about some of these. [01:01:25] Speaker C: Racetracks and things in this car that. [01:01:27] Speaker B: I think everyone is about to right here kind of like we were talking about for. It's like it's either they're going to just quit talking or there's just going. [01:01:33] Speaker C: To start popping off and I think it's. [01:01:38] Speaker A: And I want people to stop saying, I want people to stop saying, I'll let my emotions get the better of me. [01:01:43] Speaker C: It's like, dude, just say it and let it live. Let it, let it ride out there. Just stop with the, stop with taking it back. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Whenever you, somebody just has a negative opinion about it. [01:01:55] Speaker C: Like, who cares? [01:01:57] Speaker A: Somebody has a negative opinion about what you said. [01:02:00] Speaker C: What? [01:02:01] Speaker A: So just let it ride. [01:02:04] Speaker B: NASCAR has been always so hush hush on everything and not letting the public know about stuff. [01:02:11] Speaker C: And I am so glad. [01:02:13] Speaker B: I've, like, having guys like, even Brad back in the day when it was like a Ford thing and he was talking about, like, literally the statistics on how the Ford wasn't running as well as like, the Chevrolets and stuff, this. [01:02:24] Speaker C: Was like, when he was still in the two car. It's like, I feel like it kind of, it didn't start there, but, like. [01:02:29] Speaker B: You got these guys that are just. [01:02:30] Speaker C: Like, fed up and they're going to tell you back behind the scenes stuff. [01:02:35] Speaker B: And let the public know. [01:02:37] Speaker C: And there are guys, all of NASCAR hates dirty laundry. [01:02:42] Speaker B: You got guys like Marcus Smith, whoever, they hate dirty laundry. And it's like, no one wants the dirty laundry and all this stuff to. [01:02:48] Speaker C: Ever come to a, you know, come to the public. [01:02:52] Speaker B: And then you have these other guys that are like, fed up with all. [01:02:54] Speaker C: Of, and they're like, oh, it's coming to the public. [01:02:56] Speaker B: We're gonna, we're gonna say how much. [01:02:58] Speaker C: We hate x, Y and z. [01:03:00] Speaker A: Absolutely, man. I mean, back in the day, the drivers were so vocal about everything. They said what they wanted to say. And you know what? If they got called to the holler, they got called to the holler. But nowadays, in the world of social. [01:03:11] Speaker C: Media, it's almost like everyone's in the pursuit of perfection, and nobody's truly figured out yet that they're never going to get there. So they're worried about what they say and they're worried that somebody is going to find them. [01:03:25] Speaker A: Somebody's going to. Yeah, they're going to piss the sponsor off. And it's like, you know what? For every sponsor you pissed off, there's another one in line that's standing there saying, hell, yeah, I loved what you said. [01:03:35] Speaker C: I know you. [01:03:36] Speaker A: I know. Right now with the sponsorship model, it's tough to lose a sponsor. [01:03:39] Speaker C: It's not like they're lining up, but. [01:03:42] Speaker A: Give them something to watch. I guarantee you Ross Chastain is having. [01:03:45] Speaker C: No trouble finding sponsors right now. [01:03:48] Speaker B: Biggest deal out there, I believe, with. [01:03:50] Speaker A: Anheuser Busch, because he takes chances. He says some crazy stuff and he does crazy stuff on the racetrack. He's got sponsors lining up. [01:03:58] Speaker C: Why is everybody so worried about it. [01:04:00] Speaker B: All on the racetrack? [01:04:02] Speaker A: I mean, it's. I bet Denny Hamlin's not having too much crazy trouble finding sponsors right now. [01:04:06] Speaker C: He's about the most what if not. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Popular, most known driver in the sport right now. [01:04:11] Speaker B: Polarized. [01:04:12] Speaker A: I mean, it's. [01:04:12] Speaker B: You either love him or you hate him. [01:04:14] Speaker C: It's awesome. [01:04:14] Speaker A: Bubba Wallace, I guarantee you that man has no trouble whatsoever finding sponsors because he's so polarized. [01:04:21] Speaker C: And he says what he thinks. He gives a damn about what other. [01:04:25] Speaker A: People thinks to a certain think to a certain extent. [01:04:28] Speaker C: But it does. [01:04:29] Speaker A: He does not let it stop him. [01:04:30] Speaker C: Saying whatever he wants to say. [01:04:33] Speaker A: And I guarantee you he has sponsors probably knocking on his door asking if. [01:04:37] Speaker C: They can sponsor his car. So take note, people. [01:04:41] Speaker A: It's not about the give a shit. [01:04:42] Speaker C: It's about the not give a shit. Totally. All right, I'm off my soapbox now. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Well, have what we thinking? [01:04:53] Speaker B: NASCAR. [01:04:53] Speaker A: I know exactly what you're saying. [01:04:55] Speaker B: Yeah, me again for watching that, Ray. You know, I don't know. [01:04:58] Speaker C: Hacks are the same. [01:05:00] Speaker B: The say all this shit that we've. [01:05:02] Speaker C: Said before about all this is the. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Same hack of the week is bringing the same damn package to a short track that you've continuously bought, brought for. [01:05:10] Speaker C: The last two years. [01:05:12] Speaker A: It's the longest hack of the weeks name that we've ever had. But I completely agree with you as. [01:05:19] Speaker C: The short track setup, I had a. [01:05:22] Speaker B: For trading paint that damn gold mobile. One car that Josh Barry drove was. [01:05:28] Speaker C: Beautiful because golden black was beautiful. Had this. [01:05:33] Speaker A: I loved match. [01:05:34] Speaker C: I loved it. I loved it, too. [01:05:36] Speaker A: That thing was amazing. I think my trade and paint is the Hendrick cars all being that ruby. [01:05:41] Speaker C: Red, the 24 good. [01:05:45] Speaker B: So, yeah, I love them all too. But the 24 with, like, the ruby red and that other red they had going on, the flames, they took that damn black box away off exalta like we all said they should, and they did. [01:05:55] Speaker C: It prove that bullying works. Um, incredible. [01:06:00] Speaker B: Love that. [01:06:00] Speaker C: Love them. [01:06:01] Speaker A: Yes. [01:06:01] Speaker B: I still love the four car, though. [01:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I mean, I'm perfectly right there with you. That four car looked incredible. Mine was a kind of a. [01:06:13] Speaker C: Mine was kind of a bunt having. [01:06:15] Speaker A: The Hendrick cars, because they were all matching and they just genuinely looked good. [01:06:19] Speaker C: They did. [01:06:19] Speaker A: It was the 40th anniversary and all that. I think NASCAR ran out of things to talk about, so they made that, like, a huge, enormous deal. [01:06:26] Speaker C: And I know that it is technically, but holy crap, did they talk about it a lot? [01:06:30] Speaker A: Yeah, but they. [01:06:32] Speaker C: The cars genuinely look phenomenal. They did well. [01:06:37] Speaker A: So we are going to Texas this week, and we just talked about how. [01:06:40] Speaker C: Wild of a, of a finish there. [01:06:44] Speaker A: Was last year with the top ten. Who are you picking for this week? [01:06:48] Speaker C: Who is your winning pick for Texas 2024? [01:06:54] Speaker B: I mean, it's gonna be hard to go against Larson. Larson or Bubba, I think, is your two guys. [01:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree with you. And I'm going to throw Redick in there as my pick. Redick, I think, is my pick for winning Texas in 2024. [01:07:07] Speaker C: Him, he's always running good there, and. [01:07:10] Speaker A: I know you're going to hate me for this. I don't think he's going to win the race by any means. They have not been doing good this year, but Austin Dillon somehow always finishes good here. [01:07:22] Speaker C: It's weird. Dylan is 130, 1st, 31st points. [01:07:28] Speaker A: But he could be a sleeper for a top ten pick. I guarantee you his top ten odds. [01:07:32] Speaker C: Are super, super, super low this week. [01:07:36] Speaker A: And I know that somebody out there. [01:07:38] Speaker C: Is going to make fun of me, and I think that somebody is on the screen with me right now, but. [01:07:42] Speaker A: I think you should pick him as a top ten bet. [01:07:44] Speaker C: Just, you don't even have to bet a lot of money on him, but. [01:07:47] Speaker A: I bet you, you bet a dollar on him and it'll get you 15 bet. [01:07:50] Speaker C: Dude, the funniest thing ever is on. [01:07:55] Speaker B: Dirty mo media last week. I'm not even sure the other guy is, but he's telling Steve Latar he's the guy that's on Doe Junior's podcast. And I apologize. Can't remember the guy's name. [01:08:04] Speaker A: Travis. [01:08:06] Speaker C: No, that's gone. [01:08:07] Speaker B: Dennis. [01:08:08] Speaker A: I thought he was on the dirty mo podcast, too. [01:08:10] Speaker B: He might be, but it's the other guy that's always. It's Andrew on Dell Juniors and the. [01:08:14] Speaker C: Other guy, and I can't remember his name, Travis is always on. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Door bumper clear. And he is on. He is on dirty mo media, but. [01:08:23] Speaker C: This is the other guy. And he goes, I got a bet. [01:08:26] Speaker B: Here's my lock of the week. [01:08:27] Speaker C: And. [01:08:28] Speaker B: And Steve lat grabs his pen, licks it, and he's like, all right, I'm ready to go. I'm running it down. And he says, austin Dillon is going to win this race. [01:08:36] Speaker C: And see, the tart goes, my pen just ran out of ink. And I thought that Martinsville. Yes. [01:08:42] Speaker B: And I thought that was the funniest I had ever heard in my life. Steve Latarch literally got his pen. Ready goes, my pen just ran out of ink. And I mean, I laughed out loud. That was hilarious. [01:08:56] Speaker A: I didn't get a chance to listen. [01:08:58] Speaker B: This week, and he goes, so you're. [01:08:59] Speaker A: Telling me you think. [01:09:01] Speaker B: You think also Dillard is going to win this race or something like that? [01:09:04] Speaker A: What did he say to back that up? [01:09:08] Speaker C: That he's got a new crew chief this week? [01:09:10] Speaker B: They fired a crew chief last week. I don't know if you saw the audio. [01:09:14] Speaker C: Austin Dillon. [01:09:16] Speaker A: I didn't hear about this, obviously. We've been doing rehearsals a lot, so. [01:09:20] Speaker C: I missed a lot of news this week at Richmond. [01:09:23] Speaker B: Austin Dillon cuts his crew chief out, says they have bullshit strategy. Every single week is the same thing. Weekend and week out. They fired the crew chief, brought in. [01:09:32] Speaker C: Some other fella, and Austin Dillon finished multiple laps down at Martinsville. I mean, where did he. [01:09:39] Speaker A: Where did he finish? Where did he finish? I'm looking for it. [01:09:41] Speaker C: I'm looking for it. Holy shit. I don't see it. [01:09:48] Speaker A: Good lord. Did he even race? Once again, the NASCAR app sucks. [01:09:53] Speaker C: I can't read anything. [01:09:55] Speaker B: It's just. I don't know. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Hold on. [01:09:58] Speaker C: I'm gonna find him. [01:10:01] Speaker A: 34Th. [01:10:05] Speaker C: Yeah, that's pretty lame. And there's only 36 guys. [01:10:09] Speaker A: Eventually, they're going to realize it may not be a crew chief problem. [01:10:12] Speaker C: It may be a steering wheel problem. [01:10:15] Speaker A: I think he's just got the wrong size steering wheel. [01:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah, they'll get it, and they'll figure something out one day. [01:10:23] Speaker A: When's off my plate. [01:10:25] Speaker B: Pin also ran out of ink, though. On your top ten. [01:10:28] Speaker C: Bet with him. [01:10:29] Speaker A: It's just because it's Texas. It would not be anywhere else. But he's almost won the last, I think, two or at least one of these races that I've recently gone to in Texas. He wasn't, for some reason, run this one. [01:10:42] Speaker B: I have screenshot, a screenshot of the top ten, so we could talk about it on here. [01:10:46] Speaker C: Yeah, he is running well in Texas pretty regularly. [01:10:50] Speaker B: Elliot was 11th, Bowman was 12th. Haley was 13th, Bush was 14th, McDowell was 15th. That's all I got screenshotted. [01:10:57] Speaker A: But he probably had an engine problem. [01:11:01] Speaker B: My pin is actually. [01:11:02] Speaker A: I'm not. I am not. I'm not an Austin Dillon lover. [01:11:05] Speaker C: I'm just saying, if there's a top. [01:11:07] Speaker A: Ten bet on him, I'm probably going to put at least a dollar down. [01:11:09] Speaker C: Because I wonder if they have the odds up yet. [01:11:11] Speaker A: It's real early in the. It's real early in the week to. [01:11:15] Speaker C: Be talking odds, but, yeah, I'm going to see. I think. I don't know if I can bet in Texas yet. [01:11:20] Speaker A: They made a legal look. [01:11:22] Speaker B: I looked. [01:11:23] Speaker C: That's lame. What are we, Oklahoma? [01:11:29] Speaker A: I'm just going to see if they. [01:11:30] Speaker C: Have the odds up here yet because. [01:11:33] Speaker A: That would be fun. I would absolutely put one down and I would. I would put it on the podcast right now. Austin Dillon, top ten bet locked in. [01:11:42] Speaker C: And I don't care what you think about it. You know what? [01:11:45] Speaker A: I still don't care what you think about it. It's not up yet. So I will put Austin Dillon down as a top ten bet. [01:11:51] Speaker C: And if I'm wrong, maybe I'm the. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Hack of the week next week in. [01:11:54] Speaker C: My own home state, but I don't care. [01:11:59] Speaker A: So my bill is toleretic. [01:12:01] Speaker C: My pick is Tyler Reddick. [01:12:03] Speaker A: I'm going to stand by that. I think he's going to run extremely well. I think he's going to win it. [01:12:08] Speaker C: Allison's going to be super happy. And that's. That's about all I know about it. Yep. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. Yep. We're off this week. [01:12:20] Speaker B: Like I said, we got the low. [01:12:21] Speaker C: Country bull Saturday, but other than that, that's about all I got, boss. Heck, yeah. [01:12:27] Speaker A: It's about all I know. So everybody go follow Dawson Edwards on social media at DoT. Dawson Edwards music. We all got to make fun of the size of his crawfish. [01:12:38] Speaker C: If they're too big, we just need. [01:12:41] Speaker A: To make fun of them because there's no way he caught them. [01:12:43] Speaker C: And if they're too small, they're very fitting. [01:12:46] Speaker A: Just gonna roll. [01:12:46] Speaker B: Best part is, I'm not gonna have any crawfish in there. [01:12:49] Speaker C: So how is that a low country boil? We got scrimp, man. Scrimp and sausage. It's like a mid country boil scrimp deal. Just go to go. [01:12:59] Speaker A: Go down to the pocket and go grab you some crawfish out of there. [01:13:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I make a day, get about ten, eight tens more than none. That's true. [01:13:09] Speaker A: Kind of like Austin Dillon whenever he gets that top ten next week. [01:13:14] Speaker C: All right. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Well, anyways, my name is Caleb. [01:13:17] Speaker C: Follow me. Caleb Conradi on everything. Yeah. Matt Brunson, Nikki T. Raise. [01:13:25] Speaker B: Roddy, Nikki T. This will be out tonight. [01:13:29] Speaker C: Thank you very much. [01:13:30] Speaker A: It's a good thing you told them. They might not know that when they. [01:13:33] Speaker C: Listen to it tonight. I know. [01:13:34] Speaker A: If you're ever in Billy Bob's backstage, go look for my signature up on the wall. I finally put it up there and I'm proud of it. [01:13:40] Speaker C: I'll stand by that till the day I die. Love you guys. [01:13:43] Speaker A: Thanks for listening, all seven of you. [01:13:45] Speaker C: And Randy Peace peace. It ain't got a big white number three turn and lift around a track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can't handle dirt don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door checkers records my rifles hammered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl iron hard, fast.