S1: Episode 7: Hack of the Week: Chase Elliott

Speaker 1 00:00:03 Welcome to Ray's Rowdy Racing with Caleb Conradie and Dawson Edwards. Speaker 3 00:00:10 Oh my God. It's episode seven in Blaney. Freaking one. Let's go. Speaker 2 00:00:18 Hey, welcome to another episode of Raised Rowdy Racing with your host Caleb Conrey, Dawson Edwards and Nikki t Heck. Yeah. God bless America. Absolutely. God bless America. God bless the Coke 600 and God bless Charlotte Motor Speedway. Man, I'll drink to that. Heck yeah, let's go. Incredible weekend, bud. Lights all around. Ding man. I'm just, I'm so fired up right now. I can barely contain myself. Ah, I wish we could have got this like in the morning then Caleb would've been real fired up. That's true. Oh man. But you guys wouldn't have drank as much, dude, I, I would, I would gladly drink anytime somebody wants to for the next week. We did drink a drop yesterday, so Dang. Yeah. But I did Coca-Cola 600 baby. Absolute big hit. Great race all the way around. Caleb did good on bets. This was my first ever weekend losing money. Speaker 2 00:01:09 Yeah. Dang. It is. It is. It was wild man. 24 bucks, man. Lost 24 bucks. Absolutely crazy. I mean, mother Nature, let's be honest. She really screwed, she really screwed us on scheduling, but it all turned out right in the end. So I'm happy. Yeah. I'm happy. But either way, uh, to, to get into this podcast, I guess we should start off where we always start off talking about the trick crew, where we've been, what we've been doing. Uh, we had a trick crew. Yeah. The old trick crew. Old trick crew. Yeah. We were in, uh, four shows this week. Four shows since the last time we were on this thing. Yeah. Uh, it's felt like, it feels like it was an eternity since we did the last podcast. Yeah, it does, it does feel that way. And that was only a week and a day ago. Speaker 2 00:01:48 So like eight days. Yeah. And it, it just, I'd feel like we've been put through the ringer since then. <laugh>. It's been, it's been eight long days. Eight long days. On the road road we were in, uh, where we at in Indiana, dude, we, uh, we were in the middle of wba, the Wabash Wabash Waba. Yeah, absolutely Beautiful weather. It was really cool. Heard they have great, uh, fried pork tender loin sandwiches. But we didn't get try. Never, never. I didn't even hear about those. Somebody told us about that. I'm glad. Cuz now I don't, I don't even have to be disappointed till right now. And I'm so excited. It doesn't even take even a glimmer off this shine I got going on. But, uh, yeah, it was the first electric city in America as uh, or in the world. I think it said Wab. Speaker 2 00:02:26 Bosh was, yeah. Wabash. It was the very first city to ever be powered completely by electric in the world. That that's their like, claim to fame. No, I didn't know that to this now. Yeah, that's exactly, I did not know that to this now <laugh>. Yeah, I was, I was walking around it. It was a cool little town. I liked it. Um, can't, can't go wrong with it whatsoever. Um, then after that we went to a, uh, we were Jackson, we were in Yeah, Tennessee Jackson. Jackson, Tennessee. Yeah. You didn't get to, didn't get to go to Rock and Dough pizza though. Mm, no. Uh, actually the, uh, the war hippies did. They did go to rock and do so, so my card was slid at rock and do so there we go. We shouted 'em out. And technically you picked the war hippies too, technically. Well, <laugh>, I didn't pay. That's a nice view. But it came outta my card. I rack up airline miles. This is a little, little trade secret right here. Uh, when you're on the road, they could give you cash to spend all this to, to spend on all the things you need on the road. But why not make them pay you back and rack up airline miles while you do it? Speaker 4 00:03:24 Premium way Speaker 2 00:03:25 To do it. Heck yeah. I'm just no mo Most stores, the Caleb's job would just have the company card, but Caleb has to use his own card then get paid back. Yeah. It's, it's kind of weird. Little bit sketchy. But you know what, I've flown for free so many times this year just because of that. We went to, we had one of our flights to Key West that was paid for doing this. I mean, it, I you make it, it has its own benefits. If you Speaker 4 00:03:46 Weren't doing this, you'd still be doing it. Speaker 2 00:03:48 Yeah, pretty much. I'd definitely still be going to Key West. I'd just be like $400 more broke than I am. <laugh>. I already was. But yeah, we went to the Jackson show was at a kind of a shitty place. What's it called? Called the Carl Perkin Civic Center. It's like the Middletown four. They have like four shows a year. Apparently. If, and every single person in Jackson, Tennessee smokes cigarettes and there's no security anywhere. So if you're in Jackson, Tennessee and want to go to a concert and just basically be with the fucking buses, go there. Yeah. Because you can just walk right down it just say you're smoking a cigarette. If you say that, they'll let you go anywhere in Jackson, Tennessee. <laugh>. It's like, dude, every person in this town smokes. And Caleb made a great po a great comment. He was like, if you don't smoke, they'll give you a smoke when you get in the door. <laugh> like, they're like, here you go. You there you go. I thought this is your Tor la like in, in all of, in all of our minds, it's like smoking's been outlawed in building since we were like kids. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or like, you know, born basically. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. If you're smoking, not in Jack Tennessee, by God Jack in Tennessee, you smoke anywhere you want to go. And like I said, if you ain't got one, they'll give you one. The less Speaker 4 00:04:54 Stoplights there are, the more you can smoke. That Speaker 2 00:04:56 Sounds <laugh>. Then there ain't a stoplight in Jacksons <laugh>. There ain't the stop signs and Stu, it's stop signs and six. Yeah. I don't know what the deal is with that, but it was wild. Yeah, that's so funny. We had this crazy woman come out, I was just about to say this. She, she comes down the stairs and I walk up to this conversation already happening. It's me. I have no idea. Derek. We're sitting at the table who this woman was and she's at the stairs. Yeah. She's at the top of these stairs. There's two sets of stairs, literally just that are on, there's no security, nothing. And, and I mean people are just walk, can walk. I mean to the buses, everything. Right in this little, we're in this little pit thing. This lady's up on the stairs and like the way I'm sitting, like I can see the stairs and she's like pointing at me and like telling me to come here, which I'm just not gonna do. Speaker 2 00:05:39 <laugh>. This lady looks like she's been sitting in the sun smoking cigarettes for the last 70 years. She's from Jackson. That's exactly what she That's awesome. She was 32. Yes. <laugh>. Yes. And she comes up to us and starts asking us about some wrestler. She's like, Jeffrey LaMer. Yeah. Is is he here? And we're like, who? He's like, she tells us who he is. Is he here? I'm like, I don't know the king. And then yeah, the king. And then she's like, uh, d I love this. She's a, she keeps asking me, he's here. And dean's like, look, he's not on the guest list. So that means he's not gonna be back here. I can't tell you if he's at the show or not, but he ain't back here. And you need to go and you need to like get away from us. And it's so funny cuz Dean is such a mild mannered dude until you make him, until you say something to him or do something to him where it's just like, not about it. Speaker 2 00:06:24 And he'll lay down the law on you real quick. And he laid down the law on that woman. It's hilarious. Like, I don't, he's not coming. He's not on the guest list and you need to go. And I at that, that was the moment I realized that woman actually wasn't someone that someone back there knew. Yeah. Because the way she was talking, I thought she had known somebody there for years. Well this was the odd thing. So she asked us all these questions and this is probably about the time Caleb Black comes up. She asks us these questions about this guy and then we say no, like he's not gonna be here. Well she just, it's not like okay and walks off. She just stood there, like pulls out her phone, like kind of scrolling so odd. And Dean goes, uh, can we help you with anything else <laugh>? Speaker 2 00:07:00 And she's like, no. And then he is like, okay, you might wanna like go back, you know, over there like in line or whatever. So anyway, they had a line ra jack, the fucking local news was at this show. The people are wrapped around the building from at like fucking four o'clock in the afternoon. All the way wrapped around doors. Were at like six 30. We're ready. Just wrapped all the way around p looking at us like we're zoo animals down in the little, because like, we're way under these people. They're like looking up at us, you know, pointing like we're zoo animals. I was like, damn it is kind smoking SIGs the whole time. Heck yeah. We weren't smoking cigs. No we weren't smoking cs. I gave up that bad habit not long ago. <laugh> crazy times. Where are we? Where uh, Biloxi, Biloxi, Mississippi with, that's also a great place. Speaker 2 00:07:40 It's a great place. It's got the longest hallway I've ever had to walk down. It's called the Blue Mile. Blue Mile. They actually, when I advanced the show with them, they're like, oh yeah, it's the place of the blue miles. Like I thought that's where this was. I remember we've played, we've played this place before. So yeah, it's like a 200, uh, yard long hallway. I took a picture of it to send to Allison just so she could see it. Cuz I kept telling her like, how long you have to push the cases all the way to the truck. The loading dock into the building, two elevators up freight elevator and then out the door of the freight elevator and then down a 500 yard long hallway. It's the weirdest load. It's the wildest load in it is for a casino that I've, I've ever dealt with. Speaker 2 00:08:18 It's just, it's so the logistics of this load in are terrible. Yep. And but the show and the people that are in charge top notch. Yeah. That's, it's a good place. Todd, is that his name? Uh, yeah. Chris was the guy that's like ma uh, over the top over everything. And then Todd was our runner that day. And both of those guys are awesome. We'll do anything in the world for you. Needed anything. Like you got it. Heck, and it just like makes everything so much easier. 10 outta 10. The crowd. There's off the rockers, like, but they don't get too stupid, which is great. It's like just enough. Leave that to us. <laugh> no one gets on the stage, which is great. Yeah. We thought we were gonna have some stage jumpers in Jackson. We got close. Good. We got close. Caleb had to put a little stop to some people hopping up on top of the uh oh. Speaker 2 00:09:03 They were on the speakers and the sub and shit down there, Caleb to kick people off. I like that. What are y'all doing? Have y'all never been to a concert before? Like actor age? Only four a year. And there was, and there was a little kid up there and there's like, well the kid got down and the kid's like, no kid can stay. I was like, the kid can stay. It's fine. They're around A bunch of, it's more of the drunk adults I'm worried about. Yeah. <laugh> one kid. Not that big of a deal. Two drunk adults on the sub I, something's going wrong. Yeah. But let's be an honest, the best show that we had this weekend was the last one in Denim Springs, Louisiana at the crazy country town. Crazy. It, we had a 7:00 AM load in and a 10:00 PM show. So we thought this was gonna be miserable and it ended up being probably one of the coolest shows we've ever had. Speaker 2 00:09:44 Well, because of all the things that happened, which we talk about Yeah. Once it gets around to it. But we're we're the headliner direct support being Shenandoah. And the right before that, uh, this guy named God I'm gonna, I'm, I promised myself I wasn't gonna forget his name. He was Cowboy hat guy. Yeah, he was a local, uh, he was a local guy. He was very good. We like enjoyed it. Like it was like a very, he put on a legit show he did sick. And uh, the reason it was so cool was because, uh, Randy Travis was getting inducted into the Louisiana Hall of fam uh, music Hall of Fame. Thank you. Which is crazy cuz he is not from Louisiana at all, but they just Oh, he's not. No, he's not. He's Oh my God, this whole time I thought he was getting induc to the Louisiana Music Hall of Fame. Speaker 2 00:10:22 Cause he was just from there. No, his hometown's in North Carolina. Hmm. No joke. Oh, my phone right now. I thought this motherfucker was from Louisiana. So it's like okay. We're inducting him to the Louisiana Music Hall of Fame. Yeah. I lived my whole life thinking he was from Texas. Cuz that's where he got like one of the big arrests in Dallas. So I was holy. I just thought he lived in Texas, but that's incredible. I had no idea this whole time. I just like, oh, Randy, Travis, Louisiana, boy. Yeah, it was, it was really cool. So they, uh, they had him there. Shenandoah, coolest dude. Marty, coolest legend band. Incredible person. Yeah. He, they were so nice to us the whole time they were sitting there talking with Dawson. I'm pretty sure they were about to just let Dawson come on the road with him. Speaker 2 00:10:58 They, they were telling me thanks for all the help. I don't, I didn't do a whole lot. Thanks for all the help and shaking my hand. And I'm like, the last person he gives knuckles to before he goes out on stage. And then my favorite part after the show's over, they had all the staff people that are like working this show. You know, they're all wearing their bright colored staff shirts, just like every other place is, you know, they gave Marty one and Marty's standing side stage with the Bright Orange staff shirt. I'm like, he's working the event. It says volunteer staff across the front of it. And this mother, this dude literally just got off the stage singing. That's great. Two dozen Roses and, uh, taped me to the church on Cumberland Road. And now he's standing side stage with a volunteer staff shirt on. Speaker 2 00:11:35 He was just hanging out. He was up in the, it was so funny. Driver's seat of his bus. And I'm walking by, I was like, you about to drive his thing? He just a grinning, you know. I was like, dude, this dude's a legend. He he was so funny, man. <laugh>. So dude, they're great. Yeah. They, uh, he, he, so they get Randy up on the wings, so they, they wheel him up a ramp. I mean it was like five people pulling his wheelchair up there. And he sits side stage, uh, for all of the Shenandoah Show and almost all of the Travis show. Yeah. So he is chilling back there. We're just trying to make sure he has a lane to see, but he's just grinning. I think he had, it had to have been 150 to 200 people. Yeah. At some point. Come up and talk to him to take pictures. Speaker 2 00:12:15 Never once did he lose the big ass smiley ad on his face. No, it was so cool to see. It was, I've, I haven't been around Randy ever. And of course nowadays it's a little different and you never know what to expect, man. It was, it was so cool to see. I mean, that guy is a legend in so many different ways. Goes through everything that he's gone through and still keeps such a great attitude about everything. And his wife is a sweetheart. Just really neat to see. It was, um, it was super, we got to sit, uh, we literally sat side stage for this whole deal. Like the, the dude, the guy plays like, can't remember his name. Kendall Schaffer. Kendall Schaffer. What's his name? So he plays, they do, uh, his band actually gets up and, uh, James Dupree, which if you're from Louisiana, you probably know him. Speaker 2 00:12:58 He's like, he was on the Voice all kind of stuff. He, uh, gets up and they do like three Randy Travis songs and like this guy's band does 'em, Randy, they will Randy out. He like sings, you know, he doesn't sing. Uh, Shannon Doah let him do the Last Forever. But like, so he did a couple songs with them and they do the changeover is the whole introduction, the induction to the Hall of Fame. And that's, they got all kind of different folks up there that I didn't even know all of 'em. They had Chad Brock. Yeah. And I didn't even know that was who that was. She said Yes. I said, wow, that guy, he was there. He was there. I guess he's the Louisiana guy. I don't know. I'd never met him before. He was, he was a real friendly dude. He was. Or maybe he's from North Carolina. Speaker 2 00:13:37 Yeah, true. He's probably from Montana, honestly. So, <laugh>, Dominican Republic, he comes up or they're all up there. They inter, inter induct him. And so then they all come off the stage and they're all hanging out. The guy, the Scooby-Doo guy forgot he was there. Uh, that was, uh, Ennis was his last name. The guy that was the voice of Scooby. Right? Yeah. So he's there, he's doing some introduction stuff. The mystery machine was at this show. Dang. Um, <laugh> just dang. It just keeps, it keeps getting more. Yeah. It was a, it was a country music festival, fever dream. It was just so much random shit going on that, that had no correlation to each other. Like Randy Travis, who's not from Louisiana getting inducted. Yeah. The mystery machine and the voice of Scooby dos there. He's probably she California. I don't even know why he is there. Speaker 2 00:14:19 Marty from Shendo was wearing a staff shirt. Like nothing made sense. I you couldn't make this shit up if you tried. But we're the thing that is like, kind of mind blowing. Like me and Caleb are over there and Bud Phillips are guitar tech. This man has literally worked for the biggest, I made a joke. It's like, if you're gonna, if Bud's gonna work for somebody, it's just gonna be the legends of whatever he's doing. This dude's worked for Travis Hank Jr. Leonard Skynyrd and Carrie Underwood. Dang. Yeah. Like yeah. With others in between. Like Ben Gill at one point he's done something like, it's crazy. So we're up on stage and it's me and Caleb. We've already gotta talk to Marty and all this stuff. It's like me, Caleb Bud, Randy Travis, his wife. And we're watching Shannon Doah play a show. Yeah. And we're drinking beers. Speaker 2 00:15:00 It was like, what the hell is Randy drunk? Oh. And at one point, one point Travis was up there, <laugh>, Travis trip was up there with us. I forgot about when he was, when Randy was getting inducted into the hall of fame. Travis is over there side stage with a phone in his hand filming it like the biggest Randy Travis fan you've ever seen. It was, it was cool. I forgot he had, he's up there. It was like so much stuff. It was a cool, cool day. And then the moment that Travis was going to get on stage, bud fell deathly ill so bad that we, he, he needed to go back to the backstage area and like, take, take the rest of the show off. Dang. So it turned into me. And Dawson now having the guitar tech for Travis, I ended up having to go to the ho he, he stayed overnight in the hospital. Speaker 2 00:15:39 That's how bad guy he did. Sorry to hear that. He, so we had to, he he's okay now. He's good now. He, we've talked, he's posted on Facebook. He's texted us and everything. So he's, he's doing better. But man, it was so wild. He like, it just kept unraveling Yeah. With the things we had to do. And then just looked at me. We were literally doing guitar changes with Travis. Yeah. It's like, holy shit, how did you, he looks at me and he said, okay, whenever it's time for the tele, cuz we've seen the show a thousand times now. So you know when each change is coming. But it's, the thought of actually doing it is a totally different idea. And he is like, okay, when this happens, you need to hit this button, then this button, then run the guitar out and then bring it back and turn off the transmitter and do all this stuff. Speaker 2 00:16:12 So the whole time I'm normally am taking pictures for Travis for socials. Yeah. I didn't take a, I didn't, I stopped taking pictures. I was like, this is way more important. We're good. So all of a sudden we were two guitar techs to make a half a guitar tech out there. <laugh> Dawson would tune him up and I'd run him out to Travis and Travis like, he's playing the show and he's, look, he's just like, cause at the time he has no idea what's going on. And uh, Jimmy or somebody made a good point. He is like, Travis is looking over at us, he's grinning and laughing. Oh. And it's like he was, I think he thought we were like fucking with him. Like, go out there and Jimmy, somebody said that. I was like, dude, I think Travis thought y'all were like, fuck you with obviously cuz he had no idea what was going on. Speaker 2 00:16:48 He's like, yeah, he thought y'all were fucking around. And we're go like, we're standing there and I'm holding the guitar. Calebs out on stage and it was just like, he's just grinning and shit. Like, it was hilarious man. I was making so many faces at Travis because he would just look over at me and gimme one of these just with his tongue sticking out. Just ah, just funny shit. So I would just give it right back to him cuz I, he, he straight up was having such a good show. He didn't need anything on the guitars. He just needed them to be random. 'em. Yeah. So I think just having somebody different out there on the side stage, just kinda like put 'em in a different mood. And you got Randy sitting right behind me too. Yeah. So of course like he's making faces over at Randy too. Speaker 2 00:17:22 It was funny, man. It what a wild That's great. Wild show. I, I would, it's like an on, it's like an onion. Just like you said the other day, that joke was like an onion. That's what it was. Like the whole day just started as that full onion. And every time a layer got peeled back it was just something like crazy. Yeah. Like what in the hell? I straight up thought that was gonna be one of the worst shows of the year. Yeah. Just from what, what it was and what we were heading into. And it turned out to be super well, it was good. Well put together. And a lot of cool stuff happened when you hear about a festival and a load in at 7:00 AM you put your standards way down here for what the show day is gonna be. Yeah. <laugh> It was, it was nuts. Speaker 2 00:17:58 But we survived it. We survived it. We only got two shows to do this week. We have seven shows in the last 10 days and now we only have two this next weekend. And hallelujah. I can't wait to just have an easy weekend after all that madness. Yeah. And then yeah, we had, yeah, I just, I agree with you. It was, it was great. But it's gonna be nice to have like four days to just chill and then we'll crank it back up Thursday and we go to, uh, Decatur, Illinois. Decatur, Illinois and somewhere in Missouri. Missouri. Yeah. So Midwest, we love the Midwest folks. Absolutely. They they love country music out there. Oh yeah, they do. Well, speaking of madness, we had a mad weekend in NASCAR for certain, I swear Mother, mother Nature was mad <laugh>. Yeah. Uh, we actually had a guy, uh, send us a message on Twitter that said, uh, pencil in a hack of the week. Speaker 2 00:18:45 Mother Nature <laugh>. Yes. No, no. Randy was the one that said pencil in a hack of the week. Yeah. But this one person that said, I already got you a hack of the week, it's Mother Nature <laugh>. Hey Phenomen. We got a small following, but they already giving us their hack of the week pics. Which is pretty cool, man. I loved, it's what we want. Yeah. I loved it. That dude cracked me up whenever I read that. I started laughing. Amazing. Yeah. We've had people we don't know, people we do know my sister. Like I keep bringing up my family. They, they're texting me their hack of the week. It's like, okay, this is cool. Yeah. It was at Rock's Vintage. Uh, the name was just vintage vn. So he's a big, he's a fan. He posted that that guy posted, uh, back in the 2000, like those heyday bud days. Speaker 2 00:19:21 Oh 4, 0 5, 0 6 he posted raised on red with Junior's car. That's same guy. This was like awesome. This was like maybe a year or two ago. Yeah. But that's how I know who he is. Like we've re interacted a few times. Oh cool. Well he's a, he's a cool dude. I'm not sure what his name is, but I'm down. Well, rocks Vintage. Love you keep it, keep it coming. He's a, he, he, he thinks like we do and he agrees on all of our nascar. He, he's like a old school like NASCAR fan. You know what I, he likes when the tires wear down. Good. Yeah, he, yeah, he does. He doesn't think we're candy asses though. So that's that's good. That's good. He must be a fan of 59 race Losing streaks too. So <laugh> <laugh>. Well he is a junior fan, so he was used to more than 59. Speaker 2 00:20:01 Hey. But so was I. So was I I was there. That's true. I was there too. It's true. We can't all be, Kyle Larson and Jimmy Johnson fans get a win every third week. God damn. Take some Jimmy Johnson. My dad. I apologize for saying gd. I'm here. That was, that's bad. Apologize to everybody. Uh, Nana's just disown you man. Yeah, she is. Um, man, uh, Jimmy Johnson just never, I read a stat this morning before you get in the race. Read a stat this morning. Jimmy Johnson. I don't even think he one what? I don't even think he got in the race. <laugh>. Oh, barely. Barely. Hell. He, he had one last place finished in his whole entire NASCAR career and he's finished last three times this season. Every start he has had this season has been a dnf. Completely crazy. I don't know what's going on, but that is just, we learned some wild stats for sure. Speaker 2 00:20:46 Like the Dave Blaney stat saying that he never had any wins in NASCAR other than one win in Xfinity Xfinity. I didn't know that either. I thought crazy. I thought Dave Blaney had more wins than that. I would've thought so, but apparently not. Uh, I just don't remember. I I mean I go back and think it's like, you know, I don't really remember seeing Dave Blaney in Victory Lane. I don't remember him like dominate, you know what I mean? I don't know. So no makes sense. He is a world of outlaw champion though. So that, that he found his success. He's a hell of a race car driver. He just didn't have the NASCAR deal, I guess going on. Hell yeah. Which is fine. You know what, he's got a, he, he made a big enough name that here we are still talking about him. Speaker 2 00:21:20 So Yeah, it worked out. Hell he like he's uh, he, he won a, he won a sprint car race last year. Did he? Like one of the oldest drivers to ever won a sprint car race and he did it last year. Dang. Good for him. I know you, he still kicking. You always do pay a little bit more attention to the dirt stuff. So those are always stats. I never know. Yeah, that's always fun to learn about 'em though. You never know what you're gonna get. I am a big dirt guy. Very. But anyways, we can get to NASCAR stuff. Heck yeah, the ra all the races were rained out and messed up. Uh, they tried to run the bush, the yeah Bush race before the cup race gotten rained out again. So the Bush race ended up running after the cup race. So Yeah, that's why I'm recording this today. Speaker 2 00:21:58 This is, uh, we haven't heard anything on Chase la yet. We're recording this at four 14 on Tuesday. Yeah. Still waiting to hear back. Uh, but uh, yeah, so all these rain delays, my favorite, uh, tweet that I saw this week was someone saying this is basically like wa having episodes of a series on Netflix that you're watching just in bursts. Like you're just binge watching a few laps here. Then you have a few laps here, then it's gonna switch to a completely different series. Gonna binge watch that whole thing and then go back to the original one and re binge watch. That was I I cracked up cause that was exactly what it was. You get 'em started, get 'em stopped, get 'em started, get 'em stopped. It was Green flag, red flag weekend. Even in the Indy 500 and even in the Cup race, they, they had to pause the cup race a few times from Rain. Speaker 2 00:22:40 Yeah. It was like, damn. Just absolutely crazy. But it was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. Uh, it's a super long race so you never know what to expect. And man, it, it was kind of cool to watch how much it started with one set of guys running up front and then it switched to kind of a different set of guys running up front and then it switched back to the original and it's, it seemed like your best cars were there the whole time, but they blaney moves definitely that common denominator that stayed. Yeah, I mean I hate to, when you wear a Blaney shirt, like it, it doesn't matter what driver you are. If you're wearing their shirt and you talk about how good they were doing, just everybody likes to talk trash about like, ah, God, you're only talking about it. Speaker 2 00:23:20 I of that say Blaney was definitely far to beat all day. He, he, he definitely was. I mean, and Byron was with the pit crew to beat all day. Oh my God. Byron's pit crew about piss me off so much. They were so good. They definitely got a, uh, Bon they got a bonus or something today had to Oh, they should have, they absolutely, if they, there's a reason they're ranked number one Every, I told my dad I was week like Byron should, uh, he owes them steak dinners all week this week. He does. He gained, last time I saw it was 18. Could have been more. I think it ended up 18, gained 18 spots on Pit Road. That's good, right? Oh, that's a hell pro. I'm just messing <laugh>. I I told Caleb someone we should uh, look this up. I don't even know how to look this up there. Speaker 2 00:24:01 Ha, that has to be like close to the record, if not the record for most spots gained on Pit Road. I feel like there's gonna be a couple weird goofy things I'm sure. But like that's how I, I mean it and and you gotta always consider too, there's always those no tire stops. There's two tire stops where somebody can just gain 16 spots. No, no, no, no, no. I get that. I'm talking about on Pure, just like, like Denny Hammond talks about like pure race passes, like on four tire stops, like consistently all day. It was like three per stop because Byron would start first drop to about third or fourth. He literally ran third or fourth almost all day. They would pit go back to first. Yeah. Drop back to third or fourth pit, back to first. Crazy. It was, it was the most insane shit I've ever seen. Speaker 2 00:24:42 It was, it was such a weird day for that. I mean, just seeing a pit crew dominate that way. I, I even mentioned it and part of it was because I was POed that they kept beating Blaney off pit road <laugh> part of it was actually true. And even Denny Hamlin talked about it on his podcast. I was like, man, they've got that time line. I mean we were so confused. The very first pit stop. Oh yeah. Me and Caleb were sitting there and Blaney clearly beats him to the yellow line, which we thought was the timing line in there. And it says Byron and Byron's like, we're like, Caleb, you said no one argue use it. You were like, did I just watch what I think I watched? And I was like, yeah, Blaney definitely beat him. And then we found out the line was different and it's just, I it's if it's gotta be the exit of his box, like the edge of his box is the time and all he is gotta do is just wrap and that's a boom. Speaker 2 00:25:27 He's there. He doesn't have to worry about speeding on edge. Said something was like 50 foot, that's like two car length or something. For real. It was, it was so stupid man that there's no reason someone shouldn't have to get all the way up to pit road speed and control their speed by the time they're at the timing line there, there's a reason he won his pit crew was on all day. You can't take away, he didn't have a pit stop over 10 seconds with No, he never did. And they crazy. There was a couple pit stops. Sub nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nine, 8.9 second pit stops and four tires. I know you're only changing one lug now, but Jesus, you still gotta get 18 gallons of gas in that car in nine nine. That's crazy how I don't how do you do that? I don't understand man. Speaker 2 00:26:05 Very carefully. There's a, there's a couple times I'll wake up on the bus and I feel like I can feel up a NASCAR car that quick, but it's, it's not very often. But <laugh> <laugh>, I don't even know what to say about after, after we wake, after we wake up drinking all day. But dang dude, it was absolutely crazy that they were able to pull off what they were pulling off. It was completely nuts. And it was the one time I think in my entire life as a Blaney fan, I've seen him go down pit road and never once did I get nervous anymore. They were, they were on too. It was, it was a day for pit crews for sure. That was with the stars of the show for multiple drivers. Very impressive to see it. It was a day for, for pit crews. Speaker 2 00:26:43 But there was also some pit crew. There was also like, they bumped and banged on Pit road. There was a couple mishaps in, in the cup and Bush race and then that whole debacle with the sixth and the 24 and then Denny just says like, that's the sixth's fault for picking there. I didn't know what to think. Like watching it just cuz it's like, yeah, you ran through their box, but it's like, nah, Denny's just like, yeah, it's six's fault. Honestly. I've just, I've seen so many instances where people are on pit road and they're in each other's way constantly. I mean that's just a byproduct to close racing and Yeah. Always pitting under caution. Uh, you're always gonna be right on top of each other. I just, I don't really understand why all of a sudden it was such a big deal for them. Speaker 2 00:27:25 I guess probably because the six was finally running up front, so they were constantly having to pit around each other. That's exactly why the six and the the six and the two for the three quarters of the rate six and the two six and the 17. Yeah, sorry. No, no, 24 and the sixth. Sorry. Two. I mean, I mean my old Brad Keslowski mine there didn't mean to say that <laugh>, the, the six and the 24 ran within two or three spots of each other all day long. Yeah. So the 20 fours coming into pit and right after the six was coming into pit. So that was your, that was why you're exactly right. Cuz the six was running up front all day. So they really, and ran right together had to pit at the same time within a couple feet of each other. What are you gonna do? Speaker 2 00:28:01 You picked your pit stall. Yous picked, that's poison. Yeah. You picked it so you gotta deal with it. And I'm like, okay. I didn't, I didn't really have a strong opinion either way, but it was good to, you know, hear somebody that does know, clear it up. It was odd. It was just odd that it was such a big deal out of outta nowhere. I, I get the frustration, be frustrated, but sending warnings to people from NASCAR for the way that they pitted in their box. I mean, if it was super egregious, it'd be one thing, but if it's just two cars pitting right next to each other, what do you expect them to do? They're, it's giant race cars trying to pull into a box where s where five dudes are jumping across. You're trying not to hit anybody. Try not to hit the guy behind you. Speaker 2 00:28:37 Try not to hit his guys whole big safety ordeal. It's hard. And that's, that's tough to do. And all the whole time you're trying to maximize your efficiency while you're doing it. Yeah. I want to do this as fast as possible, but as safe as possible. And just talk about two words that don't go together as fast and safe. So I don't see how how you're supposed to do anything other than what they did. Yeah, me neither. I I just was bringing it up just and it worked. Yeah. And it worked out. That was, uh, I, I just hated, I hated to see the six car get screwed up in, in the, in the deal. Like Caleb, Caleb had a bet on the six car finishing top five and he was running so good I told. And the 17 and the 17, which he still, he only finished eight for a, for multiple laps in multiple stages. Speaker 2 00:29:22 Both of them were in the top five. So I want, I just wanna say I called some RFK doing that. I told Caleb, I said, nailed it. I said, what kind of insider information did you know to have that the six is gonna run top five all day? And he, we thought that was funny, but oh yeah, he did. He ran up there all day. What caused him to get in the back? Uh, he did end up having a big, big scrape on the back stretch. And that's really what kind of what what was a big major, he had to take it like a pit, unscheduled pit stop or something. Got like a lap down, come back and then he was trying, like he posted on Twitter, like trying too hard after that pit stop. Yeah. And he just wrecked himself. Oh, I he spun out and then hit the another car and that hit him into the wall. Speaker 2 00:30:02 And was that not when they, uh, when they had to send the video back to their war room and Nat and uh, Charlotte and they said like, Hey, we didn't get this tire on tight. Was that him? Maybe that did that maybe, I can't remember, sorry. But whatever it was he got in the back was trying over trying, you know, almost too hard. And that's what he's quote said on Twitter, you know, trying too hard to get it back. And then he spun himself and when he spun himself he put himself nose into the wall and then after that you're just kind of screwed. So yeah, I, he had legit race winning speed in the six car and obviously we were RFK guys so we were very excited to see the RFK dudes running top five, top eight all day long. And glad to see Buscher Buscher got a stage win and ended up finishing eighth. Speaker 2 00:30:45 I believe so Yeah, man, shout out to the RFK boys. Yeah, for sure. I for life cannot wait to see them get into Victory Lane with that six car. That's the one missing link that they have right now for just proving their success is getting Brad into, uh, victory Lane. I even told Dawson how cool would it be because Keslowski, uh, victory celebration is to take a giant American flag and put it in his driver door and start doing burnouts with this American flag <laugh>. I imagine how cool it'd be to win the Coke 600 on Memorial Day weekend, on Memorial Day Day and then win and do burnouts with an American flag flying behind you with a name of one of the, uh, with the name of a soldier written across your windshield and being his first win in the sixth and being first. Speaker 2 00:31:28 That was, that would've been such a storybook moment. That was one of those moments in NASCAR that people would've said was scripted. If it had actually happened, that would've been so cool. But it really would've been as, as a lot of things are that just didn't quite work out that way. And it was heartbreaking. But I will say, to segue off of that point, one thing that absolutely astounded me about this race that we have not seen in so long is Fords coming out and actually doing, did they find something? Did Ford find something? Had to what, what changed? What has changed in the Ford camp that we've already been to Two mile and a halfs? Uh, well I guess Atlanta technically doesn't count, but at least in Las Vegas, that's, that's the other win is Atlanta. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it's, I I can't quite count it now that it's super Speedway style there. Speaker 2 00:32:17 No, no, no. They are, Fords are definitely good at super speedway this year. I was just saying that they were, they were talking about they had one win all year, which is crazy at this point for Ford only have, well two now, sorry, but had only had one win and it was Logan's win at Dega, uh, Dega Atlanta. Atlanta. I got to witness that happen. It was crazy. Hell brat. It was came down to two fours. He passed Brad on the back stretch on the last lap. So, uh, Denny even said today, like at out of the forward guys, the RFK team has almost been like, they've been way more consistent. Yeah, they're, the Pensky has literally, they'll go run top five and then dude, they'll ha they'll run 20 like Joey at Vegas, they'll run 20, 25th. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> all day. Yeah. They've just been super inconsistent. Speaker 2 00:32:56 RFK has been in that somewhere between fifth to 15th, you know, pretty much all year. Yeah, no, I agree with that. And it was just, it was great. But they definitely found something that Ford found something. Whatever Ford found, they have not shown it tor though. There was one moment where Har Sr has parachutes on their cars. They do. There was a, there was a bit of time where Harv was running in the top five. He was up there leading laps even, uh, he would've finished top five if he wouldn't have spun off Yeah. With the Reddick deal. But that Yeah, he didn't, that was just coming off the corner and nothing you can do. That's just tough luck. But I don't know what the, I don't know what SHR is doing. We already, they were running off, they were running 25th and worst, although they were getting beat, they got beat by Rick Ware cars and such, which is just prop are Rick Ware for that 16th place finish though. Speaker 2 00:33:41 I'll give them credit where credit is due. That is impressive. But it is wild to see. I mean, we set it at the very first episode, s r out there suck, Hein hit. They're not even sucking Hein hit anymore. They're just trying to chase the tail hoping they could bite that. Like they're just, they don't have anything going on. I don't know what, I don't, I wish I could understand that you have Tony up in the booth having to be honest with himself. Yeah. Saying Yeah, our cars just legit. We just ain't got it. What? They all worked on 'em and got 'em up there, but I mean, priests ended up finishing. All right. Harv would've finished. All right. I'd agree with you on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Briscoe didn't get up there in the 10 car. We all know how I feel about the 10 cars, so we won't even have to go there. Speaker 2 00:34:20 Yeah, he, he ended up running all right in the middle of the race. He just, but then he hit the wall and that was the end of it. And then he hit Bubba Wallace almost. But <laugh>, he did give Bubba Wallace pretty good shove there. He did, he about knocked over that. Bernard Pollard <laugh>, Bernard Pollard, he's an N F L football player and, and uh, I think he's a Bubba Wallace fan actually. And he's like, man, I gotta looking at that. And he is like, that's a pretty good shove. I don't know if, if Bubba wanted that smoke, you know, <laugh>, I don't think he did. And we're talking about a middle linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens back in the heyday. Um, but to see, and anybody that listens to this podcast, you're obviously a racing fan of some sort and you'll, you'll agree with this to see, see Kevin Harvick run just 30th and not have a wrecked race car. Speaker 2 00:35:06 That's weird. Yeah, that's just weird. Oh it's strange. He is always, even this year in dog shit s r cars, he is still finds his way into the top 10. I mean the dude's like top five in points. Like he finds his way into the top 10, but that first run, just to see him lose 28 spots, he started second, right? Mm-hmm <affirmative> 28 spots. That's weird. I mean there's no other way to say it. See, and Kevin Har run that bad like he was at the beginning of that race is just plum weird. It is strange. I wanna know. So something's wrong with the cars. I wanna know what the problem is cuz there is no reason a team with as much talent and as much money as Stewart Hos racing, we're talking about an A-list team here. Used to be. Well we're talking about it. Speaker 2 00:35:51 What used to be an A-list team for sure. I remember that when there was a point when I first started watching nascar, we were at t fricking Dega, S h r was running 1, 2, 3, and four and they were so fast that that four, that group of four cars all on the same team got ahead of the rest of the draft just by themselves. They were running their own race. That's how good R was just four or five years ago. Dude we're only three years removed from 2020. And then World happened when Harvard won 10 plus races. Yeah, it was, I was it 10? Was it nine? I don't remember it was 10. Not whatever the number was. Like good lord, what is going on? Why are y'all, why are y'all hearting so bad for points right now and positions and track position. It makes zero sense and it makes me wonder what the heck's going on in the organization. Speaker 2 00:36:42 You look at Stewart Hoss, you know, Tony Stewart's not ignoring this, but now Tony's got his whole drag race thing going on. He's got a lot of putting that money in the drag car. That's, that's he's got a lot of, he's got a lot of distractions going on over here. Yeah, no, I I think it's a, it's a very valid point. Like where is all the attention going that used to be they have f F1 team, they and Haass has an F1 team and you guess what Haass is one of the worst F1 teams just three, four years ago they finished in 19th and 20th at every race pretty much other than like maybe a couple sixteenths they got. Luckily yeah, I, I don't, so I don't know is is all the attention going to F1 and Drag Grayson and NASCAR's? Just not really their focus. Speaker 2 00:37:21 Like I, and I can't, I can't say that with any confidence because that makes zero sense. Why would they not be paying attention to their program? But here we are talking about him and Rodney Childers's, uh, Kevin Hart's crew chief is like, he's a top three crew chief. I mean he is, he is up there. Yeah. He's one of the best premium, one of the best there ever is. I don't know if he's complaining what his plans are after Harvey retires. He says he wants to keep going. Okay. So I guess he's taking over with Josh Barry <laugh>, which I think he is a big fan of. He made a post or he didn't make a post. He, when he was on Dell Jr's podcast, he said like it for him to keep going. And this is before, you know, Harv had talked about retiring, but you know, they're all older, you know, it's coming, you know, conversations happen. Speaker 2 00:38:03 He wanted to work with somebody he wanted to work with. Like he, he the, whoever it has, he has to have confidence in their ability driving and he has earned that. Right? He has, he came from short track, late model racing asphalt, late model racing. That's exactly where the path Josh Barry is taking. So he said that and then he was Dave Blaney's crew chief when he first came into the cup. He said he would love to crew Chief Ryan Blaney if the opportunity ever presented itself. But, but now I think, I think he is very high on a guy with the talent of Josh Berry and Josh Berry also knows how to work on the cars. I mean Josh Berry was Dale Jr's crew chief the other week ago at North Wilkesboro. Like he knows what he's doing. Yeah. So I think he's pumped at the, I think, I think you're right. Speaker 2 00:38:48 That's where he is going. I think he's gonna stay there and be excited to work with Josh Barry. It makes total sense. I don't really know anybody else that's of the caliber that Josh Barry is that is looking for another ride. I agree. Mean still season aside, we haven't quite gotten there yet. Maybe somebody's gonna open up that's gonna be available that's already in for that they can easily transition that he'd also take, but man, I he's there's a reason takers, there's a reason that rumors are flying and yeah, he's definitely not, he's definitely wouldn't be pumped about that man. Winless little Riley Herps Winless Riley. Nah, it is what it is. Yeah. Tough scene. It is a tough scene. So, uh, should we address the big elephant in the room? I was wondering <laugh>, we got to, I'm excited about talk about this. We've got to, you wanna give your opinion first or me give money? Speaker 2 00:39:31 I will absolutely give my opinion first all. So obviously the, it's the Chase Elliot, Denny, Hamlet. Have you seen a video of this? Yep. All right. So we're all, we're all updated. We, where are we clocked out at? On uh, on our thing here? We're uh, we're doing all right. 40 guys. We've got plenty. Well this, we know this for I cuz this will be great TikTok video here. Yeah, for sure. Uh, we, so we're watching this race go down and it's right after a restart and it's starting to just get down to the nitty gritty of things. People are getting pissed at 600 miles. It's already been rained out once, twice, three times a rain out and here we go. We get around coming off turn four, Denny Hamlin and Chase Elliott are side by side racing, which everyone in the, everyone in a, if you were at a car, any car at Charlotte, you were side by side with somebody. Speaker 2 00:40:22 It just didn't matter. That's the how the racing was. It was awesome racing. But it is super stressful as a race car driver to do that for 600 miles. You get around it, they exit a turn for Denny. Shit comes off inside of Chase Elliot. They're coming off that corner and Denny is getting, I don't know if it was a tight situation, a loose situation, but he is losing the nose or he is losing the tail. One of the two. He is chasing it up the racetrack and definitely gets close but never really touches Chase sail. Never touched him. See the flames coming out the side. You can tell he is lifted off the gas probably a little bit on the brake. Chase hits the wall, the six cars coming up right behind them with a head of steam. That nine car comes off that wall and straightened. Speaker 2 00:41:11 What I saw in the moment was the nine cars straightened out. I thought he had it figured out, thought he had it handled. Next thing you know, that sucker is going to the infield. Like he's trying to pit off of the front stretch of Charlotte. I mean, he's coming down quick. They come together, they hit send Denny so hard into the wall. I've not seen that kind of a crunch. You, you were mentioning one other wreck that was the Cody wear rack. The Cody wear rack. Yeah. His nose is the only other nose I feel like we've seen when the next gen Yeah. You know, looked like that and it, they used to be so damn stiff you'd barely even notice an impact. Now they've got that thing, he hit it so damn hard. It's like his, I I I used the expression, his hood turned into a billboard, it went completely vertical and it was a rough looking hit. Speaker 2 00:41:54 I mean they, Mike Joy called it a savage hit. Yeah. And I completely agree with the word savage. It, it looked terrible. It's brutal. So I've, I'll be the first to admit, I genuinely thought that it was definitely retaliation of some sort, but he didn't mean for it to turn into what it turned into. Now this was my initial reaction when I first watched the wreck happen. I really did think that when he took that left, he meant to do it. There was no arguing when the meant to, he meant to do it. I thought maybe he caught a little piece of the six's nose and that caused him to spend him to left hook himself, which caused him to right hook Denny as hard as he did. Honestly, I don't think I could stand behind that. I, as soon as I watched the replays a couple more times, it's, it's pretty obvious that yeah, he did end up hitting the nose of that six car, but that wasn't what caused all that stupidity Nope. Speaker 2 00:42:46 To go down and man, I'll, I'll be the first one to say, what the hell, what the hell was Chase Elliott thinking in that moment? And you know, that he wasn't, you know, he just let that, that hot, that just blood boiling feeling overtake him and that moment, that's the first thing he thought to do. And he just could not have made a worse decision. No, and that's my opinion. I just, I really think that was the one of the most dangerous things I've ever seen somebody do. Yeah. Outside of, uh, man, everybody keeps calling it the Bubba Wallace situation at Las Vegas. It's, it's so similar. It's hard to ignore but man, just, wow. Wow. My, my opinion is, and I'll start this out with, I like Chase Elliot, but I have been such a stickler and I gave Bubba Wallace so much shit. Speaker 2 00:43:35 Like I would be a dumb ass to defend Chase Elliot in this situation. Like Chase Elliot, right. Hook Denny and sent him head on into the wall. And I use the term, tried to kill him always, but like tried to kill him. You're trying to do some serious, serious shit by Right hooking a driver. The first episode we ever did of Ray Roddy Racing Hack of the Week, Carson Hoer. We talked about it. Yeah. How stupid it is and how pissed off it makes everybody, I don't care if we're at a short track, and we said this on the podcast, I don't care if we're at a short track and it's fucking go-karts at a little hundred yard track, or we're at the biggest race in NASCAR of the Coke 600. You do not right. Hook another driver. You don't do it. It is, it is 100% the most dangerous thing in racing to do. Speaker 2 00:44:29 And I, I was a huge car leverage fan back in the day, and I was a kid when this happened, but Carl Leed right? Hooks, Brad Keslowski flips him upside down, squishes the a post down on his face at Atlanta. What was he doing? That's stupid. Got parked. Got parked right then in that moment, they took him outta the race. And, and, and if Chase could have kept going, they might have parked him right there too, you know? I don't know. And for next week, but I'd be interested to know if they would, but I don't know if they would. I don't know. Like I said, you know, a lot's changed in nascar, but Carl Edwards that day in Atlanta got parked immediately, pulled the 99 in, he's done for the day, whatever, take him to the nascar. Haller had to sit in at Josh Williams style and have a meeting, you know, for, you know, wonder if he got pizza, probably car Probably doesn't eat pizza, I feel like with his physique, but, uh, he would've in the moment, man, I, I just, just, I hate it dude. Speaker 2 00:45:17 I hate, I I I've, I've called for Carson Hova to be suspended cuz he's, he's fucking right. Hooked people all the time and try, he did the same thing to Kobe Howard a few last year at I r p. That's who Denny was talking about today. Like, and just sent him, I mean, running, running in the top five just sent him like, I don't care who it is. If I like you, I, if it was Larson, I don't care if I, I would, I you just have to call a spade a spade. You do. And, and you just, he just right. Hooked him in the dog leg fucking Kyle Petty style when he wrecked Davy Allison for the win. And Davy won the race now to go to the hospital with a broke neck. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't, I don't, I don't, there's no other way to, there's no other way to describe it. Speaker 2 00:45:56 It's fucked up. And I just wish drivers, they've gotten so comfortable with the safety of these cars and I know I'm not talking about next gen car specifically. I know we've had a lot of things with those, but the safety of racing, I feel like it's like went away. You didn't see people R hook people. I know Earnhardt did it at Richmond. That's one that comes to mind to, to, uh, Darryl Waltrip, Darryl Walks used out the car, said he is tried to kill me. You know, all that. But like, it just seems like it happens like more often nowadays or something. It's like, dude, you are sending a dude a head on into the wall at 190 miles an hour. Yuck. Like, like Larson's deal driver's side could have been a lot worse if the 20 doesn't hit him and spin him, you know, where it's a little thing, little different, but like, I don't know what, I don't know what they're, what I, I don't know. Speaker 2 00:46:39 I don't get it. It's a lot. I like it. It's just lack of just like, man, we're racing at 190 miles an hour and this is actually dangerous as fuck. Yeah. I mean, uh, you hit the nail on the head when you said that they're getting too comfortable with the safety of these cars because there's uh, you can have a million situations where something could be completely dangerous if you just handle it in the wrong way and not just talking racing, just in life in general. There's a million different positions you could be in where you could do one thing when you're mad. That's okay. And you can do another thing that will probably kill somebody, whether it be intentional or accidental. And usually those, those decisions are pretty easy to make no matter how mad you are. You're never gonna do that one thing. Speaker 2 00:47:21 They have definitely gotten to the point where there's no line there to cross. And one thing that Chase, I'm sure he is thinking about, he's that kind of a precarious position right now. He is NASCAR's most popular driver year after year after year since he's been in the Cup series. He's been voted in. He gets it every year. There's not been an a driver win that award other than an Elliot or an Earnhardt since I don't remember like 19 80, 30 years or so. Stupid something. Yeah. And here he sits. This is the first time I've ever heard people even start to come shit on him, man. Start to doubt even before the that e exact event happened, I've never heard people start to doubt that that streak would ever end. And people are already starting to talk about Ross Chastain maybe being the guy that takes over that mantle and whether it's Ross, whether it's anybody else. Speaker 2 00:48:10 Hey, just to point out, they talked about on door bumper clear the loudest roar of anybody in North Wilkesboro Ross Chastain. Yeah. Which makes total sense. And I'm not just sitting here being a Ross Chastain apologist right now. I could be talking about anyone in the field and it wouldn't make a difference. Yeah. Chase is at a really precarious position. He already has a lot of people that come for him saying he is too vanilla and he is not got a whole lot of personality. He is way too controlled and this and that. Like why is he the most popular driver? It's a conversation that exists out there. Yeah, totally. I'm not saying I'm in on it, but it exists. And now we've got other people saying, man, there might be a, might be a new contender out here. He's got, he is in such a great position as a, as a star of the sport that his face is on every billboard, his face is on every commercial. Speaker 2 00:48:56 His, he gets this giant welcome back when he comes back from men injury and Alex Bowman commercials, commercials on tv. Yeah. And Alex Bowman gets a tweet. I mean, it's, look at the position that you're in and look at the decision you made and understand that you may think that you're on a pedestal made a marble, but right now it's starting to look a bit more like a pedestal made a cardboard and you better make sure that you're not prime to pour water on that cardboard pedestal you're sitting on. It's exactly what he just did. I want, it's, it's something to think about. I want, I wanna point out, you said I agree a lot with what you just said. Like if you give Chase, if you would've gave him 30 seconds to five minutes, chase would never Right. Hook someone in the Wallace. Same with Bubba Wallace. Speaker 2 00:49:38 Mm-hmm Bubba Wallace, you give him five minutes, he's not gonna write Hook Larson in the wall. I don't know about Carson Hova cuz he does it all the time. That's another story. But in these heat of the moment, situations like those two speci specifically, you give him a couple seconds, a couple minutes, they're not gonna do that. But it's like we gotta eliminate that heat of the moment thing where you're right. Hooking the guy on the wall. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that, that's what I'm saying. Like h how many, like I said to you, like what if, what if Chase right hooks Denny in the wall and Denny does break his neck or, or something serious does happen. Major concussion. Yeah. We've told that something is mi I say minor, it's not minor, but even a minor thing is like a concussion that's he out multiple races, you actually hurt him. Speaker 2 00:50:25 And I know concussions are bad, but, but like, I was think, you know, like something that like alters Denny Hamlin's, like what paralyze him, you know, whatever. Like I know safety has been this big thing and Denny comes out and uses to like, uses a, an exact date. I think we said May 1st where Chase was just talking about the safety of these next gen cars and then he does something like that. Like damn, I don't know, like it's the in-car camera. That was just brutal. I mean it was brutal to watch it, it was just as brutal as, as the Ryan priest hit at Dega on Larson. Like just as bad. Like he's not dead. He's not messed up. He might have a concussion, you know, I don't know, but like he's fine. But like what if, what if one day? Yeah. Somebody intentionally wrecks somebody and they're just not fine. Speaker 2 00:51:13 It's a what if conversation. It's until it's a what happened conversation. Yeah. It's just like for sure this is just fucked up. It is. It and it's, it's scary. And I, one thing I think everyone, we'll probably get caught a candy ass for that because we don't want people to ride hook people, but you know, don't give, damn, I'll stand, I'll stand up for it. No, no. Right hooks. We should get those shirts made too. Yeah. No right hooks, no right hooks, left hooks only. People used to wreck people all the time. Left hook boom sitting right through the grass. You don't get damage, you're screwed, but no damage. Hey, yeah, that's fine. Give him an old bump and run. I think the one thing to be careful though is just remembering that Chase Denny has a different, uh, opinion on this. He talks about how Chase has lashed out doing different things. Speaker 2 00:51:54 He's never done anything to physically harm someone before. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that was definitely an example of something that will physically harm somebody. The worst he's done otherwise is just manipulate a race by holding people up or just doing something to screw up Kevin Harvick deal and then something Bris. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's had moments like that. Let's, let's be honest, every race car driver's been pissed off and done something like that. I, that is innocent enough. The one thing I do want to say is this is a major outlier for Chase Elliot. So it's not like this is the story of Chase Elliot's career and thank goodness for that. Yeah. I just hope it doesn't have to continue to be the story for Chase Elliot. I hope, I hope he learns enough from this moment that it never happens again. And there's that one time where everybody can say, yeah man, he did that in a, in a moment of anger. Speaker 2 00:52:43 He did something really stupid. Yeah. And that's what I really hope that Chase comes out and and learns from this situation is you screwed up and you can't fix it. And he's gonna realize that this weekend when he is sitting on his couch and he will watching someone else drive the nine Napa car around St. Louis, well man, poor Josh Barry, dude, I don't think he's gonna get any sleep between Portland and having to come that cup come and drive that cup game saw <laugh>. I saw this meme when this just old boy wearing his gold chains and he's a dancing and doing his thing. And it was like Josh Berry, when he sees the footage of Chase Elliot wrecking Denny Hamlin, I was like, oh my god, man, it's like a, it's like a six or seven hour flight though that he would've to take from Portland to get back. Speaker 2 00:53:24 Xfinity is in Portland this weekend. So logistically, logistically, I don't know how the hell it happens, but if not, it'd be hell. Let's put somebody else in there. It'd be cool to see. I mean, shoot, if they give Barry the ride this week, does that mean he's gonna get a playoff eligibility waiver at this point? Like this might as well. He's literal raced the whole season. This will be the only three ra if if he races St. Louis. Yeah. It'll be like he had only three races. The dude didn't race all year and both the people he filled in for missed a minimum of three races this year and got a playoff eligibility. He's raced more races than Chase Elliot has. He has. So come on now, let's just go ahead and give it to him. Somebody find this man ride. I don't even care. Speaker 2 00:54:03 It could be something. You know what? Let's, let's pull somebody out of an s r car. Let's see what Josh Barry can go out there and do with it. Get a little, that'd be amazing. Get a little start on head start on next year. Heck yeah. It'd be great, but we'll find out. We'll move on from that. We will. It it's, it's worth talking about. It's worth going into. And uh, Alex like said, I wish we'll, we'll it'll, the announcement's gonna be tonight or tomorrow about what happens. Which Yeah, I definitely think he's getting suspended. Yeah. I mean you have to, you suspend Bubba, you have to suspend chase. Yeah. He'll just go watch it from the pool room. I, uh, totally. Why not? Um, this weekend Caleb definitely hit some bets. I hit, I hit some bets, but not, not like a not good like yeah first, first negative dip that I've had all year. Speaker 2 00:54:48 A chink in the armor, man, chink. Little, little, little, little tiny chink. Not no cha chinks, all chinks. That scared the absolute dog shit that, that was so loud in my ears that made me jump just a hair. It was, it was really cool though, betting wise. Yes. At one point in the race I actually had like four of the top five or three of the top five picked out with the, with the six, the 17 and the 19 all. And as soon as he said that, it's when the six shit the bat and Kayla's like, I gotta quit talking about my bets, man. Every time I ever talk about bets, I Rick Allen somebody, I just cause 'em to go right back to the back. I'm like, God dang it, I gotta keep my damn mouth shut. Just, just celebrating in silence from here on out. Speaker 2 00:55:28 But yeah, no I had the uh, the six and the 17 both as top five picks. Neither of 'em actually hit, but both of 'em looked like they were, they were threatening to, they were, uh, we did have, we both had the 19 and the top five got that Byron top three. We did both get that. You got that one. That was all I got. Those were the two. Yeah, I got one, I got one parlay of a couple people beating each other head to head. That was great. I I love that. And then of course like we always say, put a little bit of money on your driver. We always say that. So every week I put a dollar or two maybe on Blaney. Sometimes I don't even pick him as a winner, I just pick him to finish in the top five. I think I have made ma money on Blaney one time this season period. Speaker 2 00:56:08 And it was today and it was this one race yesterday because I picked him as a winner cuz I said, you know what, it's a Coke 600. This is one of those events that if you're in it, you can win it because you just gotta make it to the end. Blaney's been doing good this year. He is not been getting wrecked out very often. So I was like, ah, let's go ahead and put money on him as a winner. I put $1 down on him as a winner and that turned into like 23. Hell Right. It was, it was, he, he was so low down in the bracket, uh, of drivers. Nobody had faith in him to win. Dude. Ford's were plus plus 500 to win. Yeah. That's how doubted Ford was this weekend coming into this week. Yeah. Ford as a manufacturer, manufacturer had worse odds to win the Coke 600 than Kyle Larson as an individual hat. Speaker 2 00:56:47 Yeah, that is plum nuts. That is absolutely crazy. And then Ford goes out there and wins it and it was awesome. Like, like Denny said though, it's great, it is good for the sport for the Ford's two figure their shit out because that just makes more people up there in the front doing their thing. You know, whatever. Because it is super weird to see Penske just kind of running in the back, you know, not up front every single week. Yeah, I know, I know they've won a race, have had some top fives and stuff. But like even a guy kind of goes back to what I said about Kevin Harvick. Even a guy like, um, Logano like a, at a race like Vegas. Yep. We all doubled, not doubled down but like we all had money on uh, Logano for Vegas cuz he is won there so much and he goes out there and they just missed it. Speaker 2 00:57:27 Yeah. And they didn't just miss it by little like they just, they they ran terrible and then he, he just, I mean it's like ended up wrecking I think. But cuz he was just running back in the twenties the whole race. Like that's weird. That's another one of those weird things. So super strange Pensy with the sweep this weekend on the big five and 600 races. That was cool. Yeah. On 1100 miles of racing. Yeah. And then the uh, Bush race came down to fuel mileage, had a couple parlays on that. All got screwed. Sheldon Creed on Pit Road got two pit road wrecks, the second one screwed parlay cause it ripped the nose off the car and he went like two or three laps down. I gotta quit betting on Sheldon Creed. I I have literally bet money on this man three different times and he has shit the bet every time. Speaker 2 00:58:07 But you know what's really funny, back at the beginning of this season, we kept betting against Sheldon Creed and he keeps skunking us that way. So no matter what, if you're building betting anything, just don't bet anything around the two. He's screwing me <laugh>. I dunno what that is man. Dude got him. I got bad juju for you. And he was the, they, they talked about it on the broadcast. The car was flying. He gets, he hits someone on, he both wrecks were his fault. He hit someone on pit road before the stage or before the first uh, rain flag. Rain flag first red flag rain delay. And then the second one he's going the, the spotter or crew here, two outside, two outside, two outside, two out two, two. I said two outside <laugh>. And then he's like bring it back around and the whole damn wrap front's ripped off of it. Speaker 2 00:58:50 Like, I don't know what he was looking at or he wasn't, I'm just like what the hell is that? He must have left his big old chunky glasses outside the race car dude. Brutal. He has his ears tucked in his damn hat. He can't hear his fodder saying two outside. He couldn't God it was anyway, golly that I was, I was, I was, I was like dude I was because I had two parlays and he was in both. Yep. I was disappointed because I had John Hunter Nemechek picked to win and I had him pick to beat Justin Alga in one of my par parlays. Those all sound like fake names. They they do but they're real, they're real. Lindsay Lindsay says NASCAR drivers have the weirdest names ever. They really do. John Hunter Neek and Justin Algar, that is John Hunter Nema check's name came from his dad's brother that got killed in a NASCAR wreck and so they like combined their names or something but anyway. Speaker 2 00:59:35 Oh wow. Didn't know that. Yes sir. Random stat of the day. Here's your random tidbit of information. Um, but either way yeah we're going to uh, we're gateway. Gateway to gateway next year, next week, next year baby. Well I hope, I mean I'm sure we're going there next year too. Uh, but yeah, going to Gateway next uh, next week we get to watch the uh, the reenactment of Chastain holding up Denny Hamlin. I know he's already pissed about hearing about it so often. I'm gonna ring it up again cuz it was cool Shit. I will gladly watch that happen again. <laugh> one goes in the corner and just absolutely lays the shit wagon <laugh>. He gives little shit wagon to the 11, put the 11 in the wall and then the elevens just tried to fuck within the rest of the day. Heard heard this guy on Twitter say shit wagon a while ago and I commented, I was like, dude, shit. Speaker 2 01:00:20 Wagon's my new favorite turn so I just had to throw that in there some way Shape Town. It was cool. Uh oh we have a really good trade and paint this weekend. Ooh 600 there. All of of 'em mean it's the Coke 600. You don't have a bad scheme on the racetrack. Um, I will say Dawson saw Ryan Blaney's scheme, um, what was it early in the week, three weeks ago? Two weeks ago. I can't remember when. I mean I actually saw it before the race last week. Yeah it, we were getting onto the bus and Dawson is already in his bunk and he rips his bunk curtain opening when he hears me come in there and he is like, dude, look at this first, first thing he says to me, dude, look at this and just shoves his phone in my face and it's Ryan Blaney's scheme for the 600. Speaker 2 01:01:00 I already was like man that is a good looking race car. That is an amazing looking race car now it's covered in confetti. That's my trade in paint. Hell yeah. Love it. I've already bought the die cast it. I am gonna be waiting a year for it <laugh> probably, cuz that's usually what you have to do. But I've already, I bought the Die cast this morning, it's coming to me. Can't wait to get it. I'll show it off on the podcast next June when it finally arrives. I'll take my trading paints. I'll love, love, love when any of these guys do. Military, red, white and blue cars love them all. Um, so that's trading paint. We've already hit on it but we gotta do it since people text us about it to everyone, whether it's family or people on Twitter that uh, text us about Hack of the week. Speaker 2 01:01:46 Hack of the week. Thank you. Hack of the week has became like a thing it has which is cool. I love it. Cool. We need shirts. Hack of the week. The hack is back with the hacker. Bowman, it's awesome. But I think we all agree and we've already talked about it. Hack of the week, Napa number nine, Napa driver, chase Elliot. He is, what the hell man, man, this I never thought that Chase Elliot, I never did either hook up on the hack of week, never did either list. And he's there on episode number seven. Kevin. Damn dude. Tough thing. How didn't gonna do that to us? Damn Darlene Lee knew that to us. I can't believe we didn't even mention it whenever we were talking about him. Well, I I hack of the week. Chase Elliot. Just a tough fucking deal. And Mother Nature for the mother Nature. Speaker 2 01:02:27 Randy up runner up. Thank you for the pencil in of or was it RS Vintage? Remember R Vintage is the one that said not Mother Nature, but Randy Adams said we got a pencil and a hack of the week within minutes of Chase Elliott wrecking uh, wrecking old dude. So okay, so so hack of the week. I mean I feel that was pretty self-explanatory. It's it's pretty, it's pretty obvious but Sheldon, you're my hack of the week too for fucking ever my bets up <laugh> and just running people over on pit road when you're going 55 miles an hour or 45 whatever his, I guess I gotta make my ha my backup hack of the week for the Xfinity series be the be uh, people, people running outta fuel, <laugh> backup pack, people running outta Fuel is my backup hack of the week because John Hunter Nema check definitely could have won that race but he didn't because they were all running outta gas. Speaker 2 01:03:11 Yeah, that was, that came down a fuel mileage. Like I told you earlier, I really thought the 21 Austin Hill, I was like when he pit, he pit with like 25 to go something like that. I was like this is seems pretty solid. Like they said the fuel window was 60 laps, they pit with 69 to go. So everybody was like, no chance even said in his interview he's like no chance these dudes are gonna not pit. And they didn't, they didn't pit and they finished first, second he finished third. So absolutely crazy tough scene there, but it what it is really. That was amazing re week of racing. If we could have a week of racing like that every week, man I'd die a happy man. These next gen cars on mine and a half dude are putting on shows they unbelievable. They suck some places. Speaker 2 01:03:54 They road courses have sucked. You know, there's some short tracks have sucked. The the Speedway package is hit or miss mid but damn super mid. They don't miss on mile and a half. So, which is just a complete flip flop of what we used to have. I know people used to fucking hate mile and a half. So now it's like, damn, gimme more now it's like gimme more cause that's what you give me more shout. You gotta lean into it. And I know we're getting close to them, but Dale Jr. And Brad k had a little, little thread going on Twitter. You just gotta, if it involves a, a schedule change like bring taking the roal back and like putting it on the oval, whatever it may be when you're hot on something NASCAR should do it should lean into it until they make the changes on whatever they decide to do for short tracks and road courses, whatever. Speaker 2 01:04:36 But man, if, if the racing is this badass like we've had at Vegas, Kansas, uh, Charlotte, like dude words straight from Dale Jr's mouth, the podcast just right themselves, like they're just shit that happens nonstop, you know? So they gotta, if they just need to lean into it and if they need to make a couple changes, they can make a couple changes, but while it's hot, lean into it. Yeah. And I am with Brad k and Dale Jr on that. And if Dale Jr says something, 99% of the time it happens. So they'll probably just have all mile and a half from here on out. I mean, let's be honest, the real litmus test is gonna be when they get into Texas Motor Speedway. If they can make Texas fun again, then they've nailed the mile and a half. Hell, that is the only way to look at it for sure. And if not, they should just burn Texas Motor Speedway to the ground and, and put a short track there or something. Oh man. Uh, I Speaker 4 01:05:25 Have a segment idea. You wanna hear it? Yes. Yes. What is your favorite racetrack and why? And four words or Speaker 2 01:05:31 Less. Tell fucking Dega. Fucking Dega. Yeah, <laugh>. Well we said four words or less. Well Tah fucking Dega. That's three. Well that was like five syllables and four fingers in the air. I don't really know why you were headed with it, but that's, I mean that's how fa that's tah fucking Dega. That's how favorite, favorite track. Oh, favorite racetrack. And in four words or less, let me just go through the list. Four words are four words or less to explain why we like it. Yes. Uh, Blaney's first road course. Roal. I actually really do love the Roal. I'm a big fan of the Roal. I would be sad if they got rid of it and I they can bring it back. What if they did two oval races in one roal? Somebody brought that idea. Go to Charlotte three times. They used to, damn. Let's do it. Speaker 2 01:06:17 They used to run the All-Star race and two oval races there. Good point. They could literally run two oval races and still have the roal. Yeah. I And that saves the team's money. There was a guy that commented that owns an Xfinity team. He was like, I fucking love this idea. He was like, take one of these fucked up West Coast races away the Portland race and put us in Charlotte, Portland race. Yeah, I agree. Just take that away and put the Xfinity cars on the Ral and Xfinity is good everywhere. So like hell put 'em on there. Hell yeah. I know. I'm about to get lit up in the comment section about loving the ral and calling it my favorite racetrack. But you know what? Suck my ass. That's a good race. Dead. You're just sucking my ass. It the, the Roal races in the other car. Speaker 2 01:06:55 Fucking incredible. Awesome. It's just road racing with the next gen in general has just been wonky because they're like, they're too good. They're too road courses. That's too good's a problem. But Matt River Road course is so tough that I think it could still produce some good racing. Totally. And I, I'd have to look up some shit. What happened there last year? I can't remember. Nothing else top head with the next, I was more than likely hammered. I don't remember either. Cool. But it is what it is. That's I just, we'll, we'll, we'll we'll see. But man, the what made road course racing so badass in NASCAR is NASCAR had cars that were made for ovals and they didn't change 'em up and put 'em on road courses. So you got these guys manhandling 32, 3600 pound cars that are made for ovals around road courses. Speaker 2 01:07:41 So it just made kinda like me when I'm driving down Briley Parkway. Hell yeah, it's dodging potholes cuz you gotta go left and out all the way there. Manhandling. That's exactly it. Like that's what made 'em badass. And now these cars are just, they're literally sports cars. So it's like they're made for road course racing, let 'em run baby. So now it's just like they just made for it. I don't know. Got shifting in all the suspension, the shifting, everything is made for row courses. So yeah, let 'em run. It's made 'em not as cool. Yeah, no it's right. So we'll see. But we'll think we are actually officially running out time now. Premium. Yep. So, uh, man, to sum it all up, hell yeah. We're all blaney these Dawsey fans today. Finally losing bedding. Hey, bad for Dawson. Here's that, here's the that, but that means you are mortal here's it is what it is. Speaker 2 01:08:30 Here's D Blaney finally winning a race. Yeah. Here's the Blaney Snapped, the 58 59 race win streak. It don't matter anymore. It's at zero now. It's zero baby. Now this many that we have this many days without a race win. Put that up on your damn work, work workplace wall and shove it <laugh>. All right, we enjoyed it. We'll see y'all next week after a big St. Louis Gateway race day. Heck, heck yeah. Subscribe, talk shit. Hell Daw, hell Edwards Music, Caleb, Conrady Rays, rowdy Nicky T and Rays, rowdy Racing and Rays rowdy. Follow all of us and uh, Ryan Whitey or Blaney 10. You gotta follow that guy too. He just, come on you Hall y rv, let's go. Speaker 0 01:09:12 Woo. Speaker 5 01:09:13 Don't drive a car and my truck ain't paint black. It ain't gotta be number three turning lift track, Speaker 0 01:09:26 But Speaker 5 01:09:27 Me from a mile and a half away. Speaker 0 01:09:32 These good years Speaker 5 01:09:34 Can handle dirt. Don't need Speaker 0 01:09:43 By.