S2 Episode 2: Bash The Clash

[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is raise rowdy racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. [00:00:11] Speaker B: What is up? What is up? It is not morning. [00:00:14] Speaker A: So no good morning, beautiful people. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't say good morning, beautiful people. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Well, they're still beautiful, so we'll give it to them on that. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Good evening, beautiful people. [00:00:23] Speaker A: There we go. [00:00:24] Speaker C: You look so much better at. [00:00:29] Speaker A: NASCAR's back, baby. [00:00:31] Speaker D: NASCAR is back. I want to just start out as. [00:00:36] Speaker C: Much shit as we talk. Me specifically. [00:00:39] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:00:40] Speaker D: About think. I think moving the clash to Saturday. [00:00:45] Speaker B: Night was the best decision NASCAR has possibly ever made on a whim. [00:00:52] Speaker E: Ever. [00:00:53] Speaker C: Man. Coming in hot with compliments to the sanctioning body. That's a rare. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Honestly, that might be the first time we've complimented them. Honestly. [00:01:04] Speaker C: It's been a long time coming. [00:01:05] Speaker D: Yeah, I heard they earned it. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw a lot of drivers. I saw all the people posting that. All the drivers said the same thing I had actually posted on Twitter before they even. [00:01:15] Speaker D: I saw that. [00:01:17] Speaker B: I was like, this is like one. [00:01:18] Speaker D: Of the greatest moves ever because I. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Don'T know if you or anybody else have looked at the weather in LA. [00:01:24] Speaker D: Right now, but it is brutal. [00:01:27] Speaker A: I haven't. No. [00:01:28] Speaker B: With it being an exhibition race, they would have just canned it. [00:01:31] Speaker D: So it was either race Saturday ratings. [00:01:36] Speaker B: Are going to be bad. There was like 500 people in the stands. It's either that and the people that got to watch it got to watch. [00:01:41] Speaker D: It or there was no race at all. [00:01:43] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly what you're saying. Either we get something or we get. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Absolutely nothing at all. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Something's better than always. [00:01:54] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:01:55] Speaker C: We kicked a field goal for this one. Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker B: We went for the points and that's just fine. Sometimes field goals win football games. [00:02:03] Speaker C: Hell yeah. [00:02:04] Speaker A: No, it was wild because we're in the home buying process right now. [00:02:09] Speaker C: So we're going for those that don't know. [00:02:12] Speaker A: We're trying to find somewhere. [00:02:14] Speaker C: So we were all weekend traveling from. [00:02:17] Speaker A: House to house to house to house. And in between, you're trying to remember every address, all the details of these places. [00:02:22] Speaker C: There's so much going on in your mind. [00:02:24] Speaker E: I know. [00:02:25] Speaker A: You know, since you bought yours last. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Year, it's just all about it. [00:02:29] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. [00:02:30] Speaker C: It's stressful. [00:02:30] Speaker A: It's a lot on your brain. So as the day was going on, I'm getting the text messages rolling in. [00:02:35] Speaker C: From you and it's like class has been moved tonight. [00:02:39] Speaker A: Everybody's qualifying right now, 22 of them or however many of them, going straight. [00:02:44] Speaker C: Home and this and that. [00:02:45] Speaker A: Mexico races right after the NASCAR, after this race. [00:02:49] Speaker C: And I was like, holy crap. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Everything completely changed from when I left. [00:02:54] Speaker C: In the morning to by the time. [00:02:56] Speaker A: I got home and we got done. [00:02:59] Speaker C: We got home, turned on the tv, and the race was pretty much starting up right there. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Yeah, actually, I joined in. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Into qualifying, and I'll say this. [00:03:09] Speaker A: If you've never watched NASCAR qualifying before. [00:03:12] Speaker C: And you just dropped into that situation. [00:03:14] Speaker A: I've never been more confused in my. [00:03:17] Speaker C: Life just because it was a different. [00:03:20] Speaker A: They completely changed up the way that everything was going to work, so I no longer had a frame of reference. [00:03:24] Speaker C: For what I was looking at. Man, I got dropped right in the. [00:03:28] Speaker A: Middle of qualifying in group. I think it was like the second. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Group was running and there's yellow numbers. [00:03:33] Speaker A: And yellow names and white names that are mixed in with the yellow names. [00:03:37] Speaker C: And Blaney's possibly got a provisional, but. [00:03:40] Speaker A: He'S still trying to race his ass off to get in. I've just never been more confused in my entire life. I had no idea what was going on. And it's hilarious to watch qualifying when. [00:03:48] Speaker C: You don't know what's going on. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that was funnier. [00:03:52] Speaker B: I guess that ball, though, you got dropped in the middle of it, but the ball got. I mean, we all did. You know what I mean? They were literally explaining how they were. [00:04:01] Speaker D: Going to do it in the rules. [00:04:03] Speaker B: And this, that and other. All. They were just explaining it as it was going, I guess. And then I also did not know what the yellow and white names meant until someone on the broadcast. And I can't remember which was which. [00:04:13] Speaker D: But white meant, like, they were on the track and yellow was off or vice versa. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Okay, got you found. That's what that meant. [00:04:21] Speaker D: But it was because on the broadcast. [00:04:23] Speaker B: They said that at some point, but seeing that also made me thankful that we don't do group qualifying anymore. [00:04:32] Speaker E: God. [00:04:33] Speaker C: Which. [00:04:35] Speaker B: They brought that up, too. It's been a while since there was that type of qualifying, and it was like, thank God. [00:04:42] Speaker A: I can't even remember when they last did it. I want to say it was at a road course. [00:04:45] Speaker C: If they did it at all. [00:04:46] Speaker B: I think they might do it at road courses because they can be so spread out. But honestly, they have gotten. And the qualifying rules change for 2024. Just fy for everyone. There's a new package for qualifying this. [00:04:59] Speaker D: Year, and I don't understand how you could make qualifying so complicated. [00:05:06] Speaker B: I don't understand why we don't just. [00:05:07] Speaker D: Run 40 cars two laps at a time. Hell, even one lap. [00:05:11] Speaker B: And the fastest one starts first. The second fastest one starts second. [00:05:15] Speaker D: And so on. That is exactly how it should be. [00:05:19] Speaker B: And I don't know why it's not. [00:05:21] Speaker D: But they change it every year and it changes so much. [00:05:26] Speaker B: I read the rules or whatever they're doing for this year, and I don't. [00:05:29] Speaker D: Even remember what they are. Yeah, man, all the comments are like. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Man, why can't we just. [00:05:34] Speaker D: The fastest cars first, slowest cars last. [00:05:38] Speaker C: Why can't we just do that? [00:05:39] Speaker A: I don't know why. See, we're going to start this episode off with a compliment to NASCAR, and then we're just going to rake them over the coals for the rest of the 50 minutes that we're on here. But that's just part of it. Yeah, no, I remember when I first started watching and they were doing, everybody. [00:05:59] Speaker C: Qualifies and then the top, like, I. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Think it was 20 or twelve would re qualify and then it come down. [00:06:05] Speaker D: To the final ten doing the groups and all that. [00:06:10] Speaker B: You had to make it into one round and the next round. [00:06:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And it'd be a miracle to remember any individual way that they've done qualifying because every year that I've watched, just like you said, it's been completely different. [00:06:22] Speaker C: Yeah, and I'm with you. [00:06:23] Speaker A: It would be so simple just to. [00:06:25] Speaker C: Go back to just send one car on the track, then send the next. [00:06:31] Speaker A: Car, then the next car, and the fastest goes first, slowest goes last, and. [00:06:34] Speaker C: So on and so forth. [00:06:36] Speaker A: I don't know why everything has to. [00:06:38] Speaker C: Be such a gimmick all the time. [00:06:40] Speaker A: There's always got to be something. [00:06:42] Speaker B: It worked for like 70 years, and then we change it. And then since it's his birthday today, I'll give Mr. Darryl Walterp a shout out. His favorite quote was, if it ain't. [00:06:52] Speaker D: Broke, let's mess with it till it is. [00:06:55] Speaker B: And he used to say that all. [00:06:56] Speaker D: The time about NASCAR and qualifying is 100% one of those opinions and my opinion on that. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah, man, you'd think that NASCAR was. [00:07:09] Speaker C: In a tailspin in terms of money. [00:07:12] Speaker A: And popularity and all this. And, I mean, I know it's not. [00:07:16] Speaker C: Going phenomenal all the time, but you'd. [00:07:18] Speaker A: Think we were in an absolute last. [00:07:20] Speaker C: Chance effort here with the way that we switch everything up constantly. [00:07:23] Speaker A: But getting back to the clash, though, they got to do something. I'm sure there was a very good reason for it doing it the way it was. [00:07:31] Speaker C: Maybe it's tv windows. [00:07:33] Speaker A: We don't have enough time to send every car out there. [00:07:35] Speaker B: I wasn't opposed to him doing it for this weekend just because there was a reason. [00:07:40] Speaker A: And you know what? Watching Noah Grackson have to try to. [00:07:43] Speaker C: Slow up to get out from behind. [00:07:45] Speaker A: Somebody and then almost having someone else rear end him into the corner because. [00:07:49] Speaker C: He'S going too slow, it was. [00:07:51] Speaker A: It was the cluster that I enjoyed watching because I didn't know what was going on. [00:07:55] Speaker C: It really doesn't matter. It's a non points paying race. [00:07:59] Speaker A: I'm here for the fun and for Legano screaming at Gibbs. [00:08:03] Speaker E: I'm totally on that. That's what I'm here for. [00:08:06] Speaker A: I just want to see a bunch. [00:08:07] Speaker C: Of people get pissed off at each other. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Maybe a couple wrecks or two. [00:08:10] Speaker C: I love that. [00:08:10] Speaker A: It went green for quite a. Yeah, you know what? [00:08:13] Speaker C: It was like a nice little, pretty. [00:08:14] Speaker A: Present, like, NASCAR's back. [00:08:16] Speaker C: We're coming. We're almost here. [00:08:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that was the thing is exhibition race, so it doesn't really matter. That's why I was just. I said they should just let them race tonight. And then it was just a couple minutes later that Denny Hamlin, Daniel Henry, a couple drivers started posting little things like W NASCAR. This is a win for NASCAR. [00:08:34] Speaker D: But no one really knew what was going on yet. [00:08:36] Speaker B: And that's actually when I texted you and my dad. [00:08:39] Speaker D: I was like, I'm pretty sure this. [00:08:41] Speaker B: Is about to happen because all these drivers wouldn't be saying this if they didn't have some sort of know what was going. [00:08:46] Speaker C: So, yeah, absolutely. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Let's dive into. [00:08:50] Speaker D: Let's. [00:08:51] Speaker A: I'm here for it. [00:08:52] Speaker B: Let's dive into it. [00:08:55] Speaker A: Short track. [00:08:56] Speaker D: Short track is still meh. [00:09:02] Speaker E: I don't know. [00:09:03] Speaker D: It just is meh. [00:09:04] Speaker B: To me, the short track and the next gen. [00:09:08] Speaker E: I don't know. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I get what you're saying. [00:09:11] Speaker A: Me and you kind of texted about it a little bit after it was done. I was definitely enjoying a few beers. So I know part of what I. [00:09:18] Speaker C: Was saying was complete was I was. [00:09:20] Speaker B: Also having some drinks and typical. I'm going to bring this back from last year, but the all american Sunday we made just on a Saturday, chicken sandwiches. [00:09:32] Speaker D: And Lindsay had gallbladder surgery this week, so she can eat. [00:09:38] Speaker B: Chicken is one of the things she can't eat. [00:09:40] Speaker D: So made some grilled chicken sandwiches, had some drinks. Lindsay had some wine for the first. [00:09:46] Speaker B: Know all that I love. Like I told you, I loved it because NASCAR's back. [00:09:51] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:09:52] Speaker C: And it felt good. [00:09:54] Speaker B: I feel like I saw some people's like, does anyone just take this race for what it is like just being the opening, like they're going to bumper. [00:10:01] Speaker D: Cars and all that, but it's mean. [00:10:03] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:10:04] Speaker B: I'm not trying to overreact or nothing, like jump off the bridge, by no means, but, yeah. It reminds me of watching bumper cars at this track, specifically with shifting and stuff. They can ram another guy, especially track like Martinsville going to the corner. You can ram a guy, they can downshift, and boom, they're fine. But this track is so small. [00:10:26] Speaker D: It's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, back and forth. [00:10:29] Speaker B: And you got a guy, literally three. [00:10:31] Speaker D: Cars back, hits a guy. He hits a guy, and then finally. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Enough energy comes through with the last guy, he gets shoved into the guy. [00:10:37] Speaker D: And he. [00:10:41] Speaker B: Know, I'm not overreacting or anything, but it's still just like. I actually voted no on Jeff Gluck's poll. Was it a good race? [00:10:48] Speaker D: And the vote was a 51 to 49. [00:10:51] Speaker A: That's funny. When I voted yes and it was like 56 44, or whatever the heck that split comes out to be. [00:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:58] Speaker D: So 50 50 it is what it is. [00:11:03] Speaker A: I think that's exactly how everybody should take it. I'm right there with you. Is it perfect? No. I still think it's absolutely silly. We're going there. [00:11:15] Speaker B: They build a racetrack and send all the teams. [00:11:18] Speaker D: There's just so much money. Even if the race goes 100% perfect, I mean, perfect. They're not going to sell 80,000 tickets. [00:11:28] Speaker B: It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. [00:11:32] Speaker D: It hasn't happened yet. And I'm not saying they're going to. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Sell 80,000 tickets anywhere. I don't care if you move it to the southeast, northwest, wherever. They're not going to sell that many tickets. [00:11:42] Speaker D: But no matter if it runs as perfect as it could go, they're going to lose money. Now, I've been alive for almost 28 years. I've never seen a business that is like, man, we know we're losing money and we're still going to do. [00:12:03] Speaker A: You know, there's probably a board meeting somewhere where somebody's still backing it up. But I think it was Brian Murphy. Yeah, it was. Brian Murphy had posted what he had posted. [00:12:13] Speaker C: I sent it to you. [00:12:14] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:12:15] Speaker A: He said in response to somebody asking where it should go, he had the. [00:12:19] Speaker C: Opinion of, honestly, we should just end it. [00:12:22] Speaker A: And a bunch of people, there was a good few people that were agreeing. [00:12:24] Speaker C: With him being like, you know what. [00:12:28] Speaker A: All the industry people are saying to. [00:12:29] Speaker D: Get rid of it, and all these. [00:12:32] Speaker C: People that don't work there arguing how. [00:12:34] Speaker A: They should keep it, it's like they. [00:12:36] Speaker C: Basically saying, we don't know nothing. [00:12:38] Speaker A: I still think that there is some value to this race, to the idea of what this race is. [00:12:45] Speaker C: I just don't think that we're currently. [00:12:49] Speaker A: Having the race that it's supposed to. [00:12:51] Speaker C: Be right now, you're given too many. [00:12:55] Speaker A: Reasons for you to look. [00:12:57] Speaker C: You're basically putting yourself in a position to look stupid. You're showing up to a race miles away from your home, miles away from. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Where the next race is. It doesn't pay points, so there's nothing on the line. It's the shortest race you could possibly. [00:13:10] Speaker C: Imagine, and you're putting it into a. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Coliseum we can't fill. [00:13:13] Speaker C: That's too small to really have fun in. And it's in a market that while it could be very valuable, you're just. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Putting a race with absolutely nothing on. [00:13:24] Speaker C: The line out there for them. [00:13:25] Speaker A: So I don't know how you would. [00:13:27] Speaker C: Convince somebody to show up to this. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Race, much less anybody that doesn't live. [00:13:31] Speaker C: In the immediate area. [00:13:33] Speaker A: Because if somebody's really that hardcore of. [00:13:35] Speaker C: A NASCAR fan, they have a Daytona 500 ticket and they don't want to. [00:13:39] Speaker A: Make two different trips to two different. [00:13:41] Speaker C: Sides of the country. [00:13:42] Speaker A: So I just think we're completely missing. [00:13:44] Speaker C: What the point of the Bush clash is in an effort to have a marketing stunt that has never landed. [00:13:51] Speaker E: Yeah, I don't get it. [00:13:52] Speaker B: I'm right there with you. I am not under the impression the clash goes away. [00:13:57] Speaker D: I just think there's. Whether it be a traveling thing or. [00:14:02] Speaker B: We do go to short tracks across America, whatever. [00:14:06] Speaker D: If it's traveling, that's fine. [00:14:08] Speaker B: If it's at short tracks, that's fine. [00:14:10] Speaker D: But make it be somewhere. Me personally, you could do new Smyrna, which is a short track, right up from Daytona. That's a local short track. That's in the whole NASCAR roots and all that stuff. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Why not do it somewhere like there and it's still in the same area as Daytona and such? And something else. [00:14:34] Speaker D: I don't know anything, how the money's broken down, but to the naked eye. [00:14:38] Speaker B: And I only know this because of. [00:14:40] Speaker D: Denny Hamlin and Chris Rice talking about this. [00:14:42] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:14:44] Speaker D: And now, granted, to start the race, there is half the field. You're only racing 23 cars. So we'll preface this with that. But they go all the way out to LA. And you know what the purse is for that race? [00:14:58] Speaker A: Oh, it's probably $5,000. [00:15:00] Speaker B: It was 2.2 million for the purse. [00:15:03] Speaker C: Holy crap. [00:15:05] Speaker D: That's split across everyone, though. [00:15:07] Speaker B: A purse for a normal race, the. [00:15:09] Speaker D: Lowest is about seven something. Seven something million. So you're taking all these guys to LA for a race that doesn't pay points and pays less than any other race of the year. All of that doesn't make any sense. I don't understand anything about any of that. [00:15:29] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:15:29] Speaker A: And if your effort is to grow the sport, you're not doing that. [00:15:33] Speaker D: No, it's definitely not working. And then you go. [00:15:38] Speaker B: Even the last couple of years when it ran on the day it was supposed to, the. [00:15:41] Speaker D: The crowd is terrible and it looks bad on tv. [00:15:47] Speaker B: And that gives everybody else ignition to. [00:15:49] Speaker D: Talk about, you know, ticket sales, when. [00:15:52] Speaker B: In all honesty, ticket sales across the. [00:15:54] Speaker D: Actual season aren't too bad. Yeah, but like there, the coliseum holds like 80,000 people. [00:16:03] Speaker B: It's going to look bad. And then they're all, yeah, it's going to look bad. [00:16:08] Speaker D: And that just is what it is. It benefits going to. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Not saying it would be at Wilkesboro. [00:16:16] Speaker D: Because that's the all star race, but. [00:16:19] Speaker B: A full 25,000 looks a hell of a lot better than an empty 80,000. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Even if there's 25,000 people in it. [00:16:26] Speaker D: It looks better in a smaller area. No doubt everyone has their argument for that on Twitter. [00:16:33] Speaker B: Some of the stuff people say, I even posted, I was like, some of the shit I read on here is the most insane I've ever seen in my whole life. [00:16:41] Speaker D: And I'm not even sure if half. [00:16:43] Speaker B: The people on Twitter have a functioning. [00:16:45] Speaker D: Brain, and that's fine. [00:16:48] Speaker B: My brain doesn't function at a high number, but it at least functions. [00:16:53] Speaker C: Mean. [00:16:54] Speaker A: You know, just, we can rag on it all day long. Everybody on Twitter is already doing. [00:17:00] Speaker C: I mean, I think even NASCAR at. [00:17:02] Speaker A: This point is going to have a hard time denying it. Needs to go somewhere else. I think by the look of what everybody says, jeff Gluck and Bob Pocker. [00:17:10] Speaker C: Included, it seems like everybody is under. [00:17:14] Speaker A: The impression that's probably the last time we're going to see it. So we're probably beating a dead horse. [00:17:18] Speaker C: But totally, at the end of the day, it is a very good point. And the race itself, it's just not. [00:17:25] Speaker A: As fun to watch, honestly. [00:17:26] Speaker C: A lot of, like, my dad is. [00:17:28] Speaker A: A great example of someone that doesn't know a ton about NASCAR, enjoys watching. [00:17:32] Speaker C: It more for the fact that we can get along about it. And he goes out and he saw. [00:17:38] Speaker A: It for the first time last year, and he said, I don't ever want to see that race again because it's boring, it's too small of a track. [00:17:44] Speaker C: They can barely get going. [00:17:46] Speaker A: They just ride around in circles and follow each other. [00:17:48] Speaker C: And it's like, well, part of that. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Is the short track package problem. And part of that is just we got too many cars on too small of a track. [00:17:56] Speaker D: It's a quarter mile track. [00:17:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:58] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:17:58] Speaker A: Can work in the right situation with the right setup, with the right cars. And honestly, it does work sometimes with some Arca races and some really small. [00:18:07] Speaker C: Modifieds and different things that you can put on smaller tracks like that. [00:18:11] Speaker A: But that's not what people show up to a NASCAR race necessarily, to see all the. [00:18:16] Speaker C: Yeah, and I'm going to get some. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Flak for that, just as a bunch of short track folk are going to come at me. [00:18:22] Speaker C: But at the end of the day. [00:18:24] Speaker A: When it comes to NASCAR, I love my half mile tracks. [00:18:27] Speaker C: And if it was the right quarter mile track, maybe. [00:18:29] Speaker A: But the way that it is right now, it's not as entertaining to watch it as it would be at a. [00:18:35] Speaker C: Similar, know, maybe double the size in the shape of a paperclip. [00:18:41] Speaker A: We already have such a great spot to go to for stuff like that. [00:18:44] Speaker C: It's hard to argue we should keep. [00:18:46] Speaker A: Going back to this small as shit. [00:18:49] Speaker C: Little tiny, pre manufactured track. [00:18:52] Speaker D: Yeah, I agree with you 100%, but to dive into the actual race. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Yeah. One of the first things that caught. [00:19:01] Speaker D: My eye was Blaney. [00:19:03] Speaker B: And then he caught my eye, obviously. [00:19:04] Speaker D: Again by finishing third. [00:19:06] Speaker E: But I. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Wild, wild situation there. Yeah, dude. [00:19:11] Speaker B: Just for starters, I was actually posting. [00:19:14] Speaker D: On Twitter during the qualifying sessions of. [00:19:18] Speaker B: What drivers weren't going to make it. [00:19:20] Speaker D: And the three I posted didn't make it. It was just for starters. And Cedric goes out there and just. [00:19:30] Speaker B: I mean, slower than molasses running uphill. I don't know what. [00:19:33] Speaker D: The two car didn't get mentioned once. [00:19:35] Speaker B: Last year and without a Daytona 500. [00:19:37] Speaker D: Win that he won. [00:19:39] Speaker E: Yeah, Cedric's. [00:19:41] Speaker B: I don't know what's going on there. [00:19:43] Speaker D: But the two car is just fell off the map. [00:19:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it has. Brad leaves it and left it in that dirt. [00:19:51] Speaker D: Man. [00:19:52] Speaker B: When I saw the two car run and the twelve car run, I was. [00:19:55] Speaker D: Like, what is going on? [00:19:56] Speaker B: The 22 car had speed and that was great. But I saw those two cars running, I was like, what in the hell is going on? And then obviously the race happens. Blainey runs a great race and gets third. [00:20:05] Speaker E: That was crazy. [00:20:07] Speaker B: So, I mean, he could pass. He gets around the wrecks. [00:20:09] Speaker E: That was great. [00:20:11] Speaker D: But he had Cedric, Dylan, Barry gralla, Josh Williams misses by one spot. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Everybody was super impressed. With that, it's his first ever cup, being in a next gen cup car at an actual racetrack. [00:20:28] Speaker D: He's raced on Bristol dirt in the cup series, but I mean, that's not comparable. [00:20:33] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:20:34] Speaker D: Chris Busher for three. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Man, that is super surprising to me. [00:20:40] Speaker A: I think if they put it back. [00:20:41] Speaker C: In LA next year, he would just not show up. [00:20:44] Speaker A: The whole 17 team would just say, you know what? Holler had a flat tire, couldn't move. [00:20:48] Speaker B: It, and Brad K was close to not making it. But he had a Hail Mary last lap. And even him in his interview, he. [00:20:53] Speaker D: Was like, you know, I really don't even know how that know. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Harrison Burton not making it. No surprise in my opinion. Daniel Henrich. I posted Henrich wasn't going to make it. [00:21:04] Speaker D: No surprise in my opinion. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Also, colleagues still has a little bit. [00:21:08] Speaker C: Of work to do in cup and. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Henrick has a little bit to do. [00:21:12] Speaker C: As a. Yeah, yeah. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Also posted that Dylan wouldn't make it even though he has finished in the top five. [00:21:19] Speaker D: I think both previous times he was. [00:21:21] Speaker B: So slow in don't. [00:21:24] Speaker D: The three is not going to make it. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was like he finished like second and third. Yeah, the last two times are there. [00:21:30] Speaker B: And Kyle Bush has finished, I think 2 seconds in a third or two thirds in a second, one of the two. [00:21:35] Speaker D: So he's finished top five as. So props to Austin Dylan. [00:21:41] Speaker B: I mean, in the previous two years, he has literally one of the best average finishes, I'd say. But like I said, just saw him running. I mean, his times were so off. I was like, there's no chance he makes this. [00:21:52] Speaker C: A DNQ will not help that. Finishing. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Not an average finish spot at all. [00:21:56] Speaker B: I think the most surprising knock make. [00:21:59] Speaker D: It was Christopher Bell. Would you agree with. [00:22:02] Speaker A: I would. I would absolutely agree with that. Him and Suarez. Suarez specifically because he walked in with all the swag and knowing that he was about to go dominate a Mexico race, we all knew he was going to do it. Yeah. [00:22:15] Speaker C: Those are the two that I think. [00:22:18] Speaker A: Outside of Austin Dillon, for what we just spoke about. I think that is absolutely. [00:22:23] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:22:24] Speaker A: Seabelle's a short track dude. It's what he grew up doing. I mean, it was on gifts cars were flying and gifts cars do great at this track. [00:22:32] Speaker B: That one surprised me the most. [00:22:34] Speaker C: Eric Jones doesn't surprise me as much. [00:22:38] Speaker A: They're going through it right now. I don't know what to expect from legacy. I'm still no idea what to expect. [00:22:46] Speaker B: We got new car, new sponsors, new driver with John Hunter, Nemachek which I originally thought he didn't make it and then he did make it at the very end. [00:22:54] Speaker D: Yeah, I think he started last outside of Blaney and then Zane Smith and Savar. [00:23:03] Speaker B: I wasn't surprised they didn't make it. [00:23:05] Speaker D: I do think the seven, Corey Lejoy. [00:23:09] Speaker B: They look great, which they've looked the best spire car for a long time now. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I expect them to do some pretty good stuff this year. [00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Spire is definitely on the come up. We talked about it on the last podcast. Everybody obviously talks about it on Twitter. Spire is spending money. [00:23:24] Speaker D: Spire is putting great people in the right places. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Zane Smith is also intertwined with track house. Obviously there's trackhouse money inspire. Chili's is their sponsor for the Daytona 500. I mean they're doing great things. It's just both of them being super young, having hardly any experience on such a small track. Just not super surprising is all I'm. [00:23:49] Speaker D: Saying about that no doubt aspect. I do run great. [00:23:53] Speaker B: I think they're 15th place average finishing cars this year. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Yeah, Corey is going to definitely have a great year for top ten for sure. Corey is already such an insult, but that is such a good thing for that team. [00:24:06] Speaker B: Yeah, we're talking about a team that just a few years ago was barely making races. So yeah, it's crazy. I did see where Corey said, I mean their goal, they think they can make the playoffs this year. [00:24:17] Speaker D: And I also do think that Corey. [00:24:19] Speaker B: Lajoy can make the playoffs this year. One, obviously if he sneaks and win out, and two, I think they're going. [00:24:25] Speaker D: To run twelveth to 17th average pretty. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Much everywhere, which is right where you need to be to sneak in at. [00:24:31] Speaker D: The end on points. [00:24:32] Speaker A: It'll be real neat to watch it for sure. If you're not paying attention to spire, you're definitely missing out because you're watching. [00:24:36] Speaker C: A great underdog story happen right in front of you. All because of the influx of capital. [00:24:44] Speaker A: That they're having from all the new investors that they've got coming into that. [00:24:47] Speaker E: Totally. [00:24:48] Speaker A: And having Corey kill his social media game lately has also been a huge boon to them. That's just going to just in general. [00:24:55] Speaker B: He can do that funny stuff. [00:24:57] Speaker A: His hard card had me cracking the hell up. [00:25:00] Speaker B: Me too. With the iron heart helmet. [00:25:02] Speaker C: Dale Tanhard, eat your heart out. [00:25:05] Speaker B: I kind of already said it once. I think Josh Williams running right there at it. I mean in his first race in the 16, 1st time in real equipment ever, he ran the 78 car the other times he ran and he's never. [00:25:19] Speaker D: Ran into oval in a cup car and he's ran into oval on dirt at Bristol. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Like I said, that's not comparable. The other two were like Daytona road. [00:25:27] Speaker D: Course and some, I think the roble. [00:25:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:31] Speaker B: So props to Josh William. Dude also has an awesome personality. I saw them jump on that social. [00:25:38] Speaker D: Media trend that everybody's doing with the girl. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Like doing the ASMR stuff. [00:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that was hilarious. That was one of the funniest things I've seen posted in a while. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that was awesome. And then one more person I wanted to say something about. [00:25:53] Speaker D: Justin Haley talks so highly of Rick. [00:25:56] Speaker B: Ware racing and then them merging with RFK and he comes out and freaking qualifies on a blistering lap and ran top ten until he has some. [00:26:05] Speaker D: Whatever failed on his car. I thought that was great. [00:26:10] Speaker A: I didn't actually see what happened to him fall out of the race, so I missed that. [00:26:14] Speaker C: Something just broke. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Whatever it was, it was like steering or something just broke. [00:26:18] Speaker A: But you'll have that on the big. [00:26:19] Speaker B: Job to just come out and back up everything he said. Know, summertime of last year, I thought that was awesome. [00:26:26] Speaker A: He took a huge chance moving over. [00:26:28] Speaker B: To Walmart on the car. Like the biggest brand in America. [00:26:32] Speaker D: That's another fucking awesome thing. [00:26:34] Speaker B: Also, I'm always been a fan of painted wheels. First one on a next gen card. Rock painted wheels. I was pretty pumped about that. Like he said, that gave him at. [00:26:43] Speaker D: Least an extra 10th on the track. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Just the biggest Rick ware racing fan over here right now. That's hilarious. But I totally see what you're coming at. [00:26:52] Speaker B: I'm just giving him what he did after talking so highly and everyone looked. [00:26:57] Speaker D: At him last year like, you're stupid. [00:27:00] Speaker A: You're leaving colleague the trophy hunter. You're leaving the trophy hunter to go race for the 51 car that's eternally got a new driver in it. Eternally finishing outside the top 30. And here he is. Yeah, you're right. Comes out there and honestly, it's like Shr and Rick Ware racing swap spots this year, so we'll find out what that looks like. [00:27:21] Speaker E: Yeah, I know. [00:27:22] Speaker A: I'm excited to see how that goes for you. [00:27:24] Speaker B: I am, too. I don't expect them to set the world on fire, but just with what they have, that car is going to go from being an average 30 place car. [00:27:31] Speaker D: They're going to run top 20 into those low teens. [00:27:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:36] Speaker A: I'm very interested to see what that actually translates into. And that'll come out and they just absolutely blow our socks off. [00:27:42] Speaker C: You never know you never know. [00:27:45] Speaker D: Gibbs and Legano had a little altercation. [00:27:51] Speaker A: I know he's small, but you ain't got to make fun of him. [00:27:54] Speaker B: Not a physical altercation, but I know. [00:27:56] Speaker A: He'S a tiny little squirrel boy. [00:27:58] Speaker C: But come on, now. [00:28:00] Speaker B: They got into it at Martinsville last year. Another short track. I thought it was hilarious that Gibbs says, I've seen this my whole life. [00:28:07] Speaker D: Because obviously, Ty Gibbs has seen. [00:28:10] Speaker B: Not been a fan, but been a fan of racing and watched Joey the gano just like all of us when. [00:28:14] Speaker D: He came in at 18. [00:28:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw a hilarious meme, and it's this guy. [00:28:19] Speaker D: It's a video, and his face is like Danny DeVito. [00:28:23] Speaker A: I know what meme you're talking about. [00:28:25] Speaker D: And he says something like, joey Logano. [00:28:28] Speaker B: Realizing that Ty Gibbs is 18 year old Joey Logano. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:28:32] Speaker D: Love that meme. [00:28:33] Speaker B: I loved everything about it I can't stand. And I'm not a fan of Ty. [00:28:37] Speaker D: Gibbs or Joe Logano, but the beef. [00:28:41] Speaker B: And Joey now being, like, the veteran two time champion that has, like, 40. [00:28:45] Speaker D: NASCAR wins and Ty Gibbs being the. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Young hot shot, just like Legano was driving for Joe Gibbs. I mean, it's so similar racing his. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Tail off, earning good finishes out there, actually kind of backing up a little bit about what he does, but still not perfect. [00:29:00] Speaker B: It's so similar to Logano, man, getting into it with all those guys back in the day, and we've seen Logano with Kevin Harvick, Ryan Newman, Tony Stewart. Getting into it with all those guys. [00:29:10] Speaker A: Matt Kenzith. Can't forget that one. [00:29:12] Speaker D: Yes. That's a huge. [00:29:14] Speaker B: It's just. It's funny to see. I'm so here for it. I love what Gibbs said. [00:29:19] Speaker D: I love what, you know, there's a line. [00:29:22] Speaker B: You know, you don't just plow through a whatever. Like, that's a. It's a bad idea for him to do this. I love it because Joe Logano doesn't. [00:29:29] Speaker D: Really give a shit, and neither does Ty Gibbs. [00:29:33] Speaker B: So two guys that don't give a shit. Having a rivalry really fires me up. I'm so here for. [00:29:38] Speaker E: So that's. That's pretty awesome. [00:29:41] Speaker A: I'm down for the mints. I'm down for the words. I'm down for the fights. I'm down for everything about it. It was really funny to watch. [00:29:48] Speaker C: That's exactly how I reacted to it. [00:29:50] Speaker A: Uh, me and Allison were watching, and. [00:29:52] Speaker C: I explained to, like, it's so funny to see Logano talking down to Ty Gibbs about how aggressive he's racing. When just like, I don't know how. [00:30:01] Speaker A: Many years he's been in. 18 years ago. Twelve years ago. [00:30:03] Speaker C: Whatever it was, he was the guy. [00:30:05] Speaker A: That was getting yelled at for driving too aggressively. [00:30:07] Speaker B: It's crazy how long Joey Logano has been in NASCAR, but he literally started in the Cup Series when he's 18 years old. [00:30:13] Speaker A: 18 years old and started out doing well and now is on the track to be one of the most winningest drivers. If he keeps a streak alive. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Joe Lagana has another 15 years in him. [00:30:25] Speaker D: He's only in his 30s. Low 30s. [00:30:29] Speaker A: Hairline of a 55 year old. Thank God he got now. [00:30:32] Speaker B: He's got that fake stuff now. [00:30:34] Speaker A: Hey, take or you get it, man. [00:30:36] Speaker D: When he hangs his helmet up, I. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Mean, the stat lines for Joe Legano are going to be insane because when he got to do it for so. [00:30:42] Speaker D: Long and he did it, he has. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Been, is doing, and will do it. [00:30:47] Speaker D: At such a high level. [00:30:48] Speaker B: So, I mean, his stat lines are. [00:30:50] Speaker D: Going to be insane. I loved all the altercations you had. Chastain dumps shreddick at the end. [00:30:57] Speaker B: I didn't have any idea until I got on Twitter. Larson is the one that dumped Buba Bubba. [00:31:03] Speaker A: You had Stenhouse getting up in John Hunter's face. [00:31:06] Speaker D: The disrespect of him taking his window net down. Love that. Love that. [00:31:15] Speaker A: It was incredible. Walking up there and just grabbing that cab and shaking it till it came down and then just climbing in there. And I loved that somebody walked up. [00:31:24] Speaker C: And tried to pull him out. [00:31:25] Speaker A: Like somebody's going to walk up to someone else's car, pull their window net down and stick his head in while the other driver still got a helmet on. [00:31:33] Speaker B: I'm glad. You know, I think you should just. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Keep your hands out of that situation. Just make sure everything is kosher. [00:31:38] Speaker B: I loved it. [00:31:39] Speaker A: Punches start getting thrown, then maybe we pull them back. But, like, dude, don't try to get in the middle of that. That's a great way to get yourself on. [00:31:47] Speaker B: Stenhouse and McDowell, they have words after the one. [00:31:51] Speaker A: That's a new one for they. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Not as intense as Legano and Gibbs, but still know finger in the face kind of. Yeah, at the clash, that's what they do. [00:32:06] Speaker D: Even though we're sitting here, me specifically. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Talking shit about the bumper car thing. The bumper car thing just pisses those guys off because their head and everything is hated. I mean, anybody would hate it. And so finally just get enough of it. And I heard Larson do in his. [00:32:23] Speaker D: Post race interview, he was like when Larson got. [00:32:27] Speaker B: When he hit Gibbs there at the end on one of those last restarts. And that's what knocked gives out. First thing comes across radio is that was all Buba. [00:32:33] Speaker D: And then they had a little thing where Bubba's just giving it to him. [00:32:38] Speaker B: At the very end of the last corner, Larson spins him. [00:32:41] Speaker D: And I saw Bubba post that, and. [00:32:44] Speaker B: I'm sure this has changed now, but they officially ended Bubba in twelveth. Bubba didn't cross the finish line to end the race. When he ended the race, when he. [00:32:51] Speaker D: Spun, he just drove through the tunnel. [00:32:53] Speaker B: Because where he spun out was in the tunnel. And Bubba posted that. [00:32:55] Speaker D: He did that. [00:32:57] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:32:58] Speaker D: So there was a lot of that. [00:33:02] Speaker B: Kind of stuff, and I loved it. My favorite one, though, by far, was Stenhouse taking the win. The net down on the 42. [00:33:09] Speaker A: That was incredible. [00:33:10] Speaker D: The disrespect, just. I loved it. [00:33:12] Speaker C: See, you know what we should do? [00:33:15] Speaker A: You take one car and you send it to LA, and you erase it in the clash. And that clash happens about, I don't know, 6 hours before the Daytona 500. So you get everybody nice and pissed off in a hornet's nest and put them in a cardboard box and shake. [00:33:28] Speaker C: Them up, and then you put them. [00:33:29] Speaker A: All into their real cup car and send them on the 500 and see how that goes. [00:33:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm with you. The more pissed off they all are, the better it is for all of us. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Yeah, man. That piece of it is fun to watch. Don't get me wrong, there's parts of the. I checked yes on the. Did you like the race? It's not a great race by any. [00:33:49] Speaker C: Means, but it's the return. [00:33:52] Speaker A: We're back to racing again. You get to watch a bunch of dudes get pissed off at each other, and it was better than it had been in previous years. I will say there was a lot. [00:34:01] Speaker C: Of what I was texting you about after it was over. There was a whole lot more of what it looked like choosing your own line. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Everybody had a different idea of how. [00:34:12] Speaker C: To race that racetrack. You had people like Chastain or priest. [00:34:16] Speaker A: That were opening up their entry so that way they could get a better drive off of the exit. [00:34:20] Speaker C: Almost like overdriving the entry to get that extra or over breaking or something. [00:34:26] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:34:26] Speaker A: Then you had people like Corey Lajoy. He was really fun to watch, because when he would come off the corner, a lot of times he was aiming for that outside wall in a way. [00:34:34] Speaker C: That nobody else was. [00:34:36] Speaker A: That meant he got a really good drive off, but it did open up. [00:34:38] Speaker C: His inside into the next corner. Then you watch a whole bunch of just the Chris and crossing of different guys that have taken the corner differently as they're coming off the exit. [00:34:48] Speaker A: There was a lot more of that. [00:34:49] Speaker C: Strategy involved in it. [00:34:51] Speaker A: And I don't know if it's maybe just because the turns are so much shorter, you can combine one and two. [00:34:55] Speaker C: And three and four into a better. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Shape to be able to accentuate the. [00:35:01] Speaker C: Difference because, like in a Martinsville, you. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Kind of got to pick a lane. [00:35:04] Speaker C: And you're riding a long time there. [00:35:07] Speaker A: But I don't know if it's maybe something about the way that that racetrack is. [00:35:10] Speaker C: So the actual racetrack itself is so squished in of an oval that you. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Can see how much different those lines are. And that's what I had a lot. [00:35:19] Speaker C: Of fun watching, totally seeing how everybody was picking a different place to run. So I loved that particular portion of it a lot. [00:35:28] Speaker A: It just sucks. You can't do much with it because the moment that you get on the throttle, you're having to come back out of it. [00:35:33] Speaker E: Totally short tracking. [00:35:35] Speaker B: And then I assume if you have that same conversation, what you just said with someone that didn't know anything about. [00:35:39] Speaker D: NASCAR, they'd be like you were speaking a different language. [00:35:43] Speaker E: What are you talking? [00:35:45] Speaker A: Which. Yeah, exactly. It could be fun to see it for what we can see as we're. [00:35:49] Speaker C: Watching, but, yeah, if you're just someone. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Like my dad, somebody's just casually watching, you're not paying attention to stuff like that. You just want to see people driving side by side and wrecking each other. [00:35:59] Speaker D: Totally. [00:35:59] Speaker C: And you got a bit of the. [00:36:00] Speaker A: Wrecking, but you don't get a whole. [00:36:01] Speaker C: Lot of the side by side. [00:36:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I think my favorite thing about that was seeing how low they could go on the rumble strips and then the paint. [00:36:10] Speaker D: And then I think they ended up. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Saying chase didn't hit the inside wall, but, I mean, there was guys. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he was on the outside. I'm. I'm pretty sure he was just three wide on the outside. And somebody did hit it and knocked him out. I don't. [00:36:23] Speaker C: That's a. [00:36:23] Speaker A: That's another note we're getting to down. [00:36:25] Speaker C: Here about Fox's coverage. [00:36:28] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going to get to that. I want to give him his flowers one more time. Kyle Bush has to have the average finish now, though. And I do have it in the notes. It was a second, a third and. [00:36:38] Speaker C: A second and the three, which is mean. [00:36:42] Speaker A: That's Kyle Bush at his finest. You put him in a bowl ring like that, he's not going to take no shit. [00:36:47] Speaker C: He's going to get to the front. [00:36:48] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Still just one of the best drivers in the field and will be for a long time. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Absolutely. I don't want to see another last half of last season Kyle Bush. I loved beginning of last season Kyle Bush. [00:37:03] Speaker C: And I hope that's back. [00:37:05] Speaker D: Cocky Kyle Bush is good for NASCAR. [00:37:07] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. [00:37:08] Speaker E: Cocky. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Anybody that's in Joe Gibbs racing right now, except for the all had the personality. I know Kyle since left. [00:37:18] Speaker C: But between Hamlin, Kyle Bush and Martin. [00:37:23] Speaker A: Truex, you got three of the best personalities in NASCAR that are all some of the greatest drivers. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Some of the three of the best drivers. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Three of the best drivers. Three of the best personalities. I don't know. Joe Gibbs just has an eye for talent, both in the way that attracts sponsorship money and attracts trophies. [00:37:41] Speaker E: So props to him. [00:37:43] Speaker A: If he could just get Seabelle to. [00:37:44] Speaker C: Like, if he could prop them with a cattle prod every now and then. [00:37:48] Speaker A: It'D drown out quattro. [00:37:50] Speaker D: Yeah, and you just said it. [00:37:52] Speaker B: But we can dive off into this for a. [00:37:57] Speaker D: They had Harvick made it better to me. [00:38:01] Speaker B: There were some rusty spots, in my opinion. There were some awkward silences. I know the awkward silences just come. [00:38:06] Speaker D: From one knocking the cobwebs off first. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Race of the year. [00:38:11] Speaker D: Two having a new personality in the group. But the camera work, man, still lacks. I mean, they just missed stuff. [00:38:19] Speaker B: They missed stuff at the end. [00:38:21] Speaker D: The Bubba spin, Chastain and Reddick missed that. [00:38:24] Speaker B: I know that's all them of the race. [00:38:25] Speaker D: I'm just know miss that. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Miss the. [00:38:29] Speaker D: Miss just. And we're on a quarter mile. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Mean major questions about that they missed. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Freaking Stuart Friesen's wife, I believe her name is Jessica. [00:38:40] Speaker D: They missed her flipping over at Knoxville last year. [00:38:44] Speaker B: Yeah, a small. Don't know. I don't know anything about how tv is put on tv, but just something about it, man. [00:38:54] Speaker D: They got to just back it up and get a better view of what's going on. [00:39:01] Speaker C: My question is, you always have a. [00:39:05] Speaker A: Director, somebody that's watching all the tv. [00:39:08] Speaker C: Screens, that's picking which one's going out and which one's getting aired. Is there not someone that is actually. [00:39:16] Speaker A: At the track making similar calls to that? [00:39:19] Speaker C: Maybe somebody that's just standing up in the spotter stand. Even that can just say, hey, director. [00:39:25] Speaker A: Find whatever camera is looking at turn four. Turn four has got a major incident going on right now. We need to focus on that like a NASCAR spotter. [00:39:33] Speaker C: Calling out something in a. They've got. They've got to get better about that. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Because I completely agree with you. They've missed so many different moments here. [00:39:44] Speaker C: And there, and the clash was a. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Fine example of all the problems that they tend to have, because they exhibited every one of. [00:39:53] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:39:53] Speaker C: That day, especially with the fact that. [00:39:56] Speaker A: I don't know what Mike Joy and Kevin Harvick and Clint Boyer were up. [00:40:01] Speaker C: There watching, but I watched as cars. [00:40:04] Speaker A: They had a rear bumper camera on. [00:40:06] Speaker C: For somebody facing back towards turn four. [00:40:09] Speaker A: And I saw someone spinning around back. [00:40:11] Speaker C: There, and I was like, holy crap. [00:40:13] Speaker A: We got a wreck. And it was, like, 2030. [00:40:17] Speaker C: It was an eternity before anyone even. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Acknowledged anything was going on. [00:40:21] Speaker C: And it's one thing for a director. [00:40:23] Speaker A: That may not actually be looking at. [00:40:25] Speaker C: The track to miss something and maybe be a little late on the trigger. [00:40:28] Speaker A: But for the announcers of the event. [00:40:30] Speaker C: The people actually talking about it on. [00:40:32] Speaker A: That small of a track, like you. [00:40:34] Speaker C: Said, to not see it out of. [00:40:36] Speaker A: Three of them, like, if you're looking at the wrong direction, that's one thing. But there's three of y'all. How do y'all miss that for that. [00:40:41] Speaker C: Long that it just sits there like an empty bag of chips somebody's waiting to throw away. I just don't get it. [00:40:48] Speaker B: My favorite one was Mike Joy was talking specifically, and he's talking about something that was going on the track. I can't remember exactly what it was. [00:40:54] Speaker D: They showed three things. [00:40:56] Speaker B: Boom, one thing, wasn't it. Boom, one other thing, wasn't it. Boom, another thing was not it what he was talking about? And Mike Joy almost, like, fumbles his words trying to talk about what it is, and it ain't on tv. They show three separate things, and it was cars touching or in a weird spot, whatever, but it wasn't what he was talking about. And I think that just goes exactly with what you were saying. I don't know who's pointing what at who and who's telling who to point. [00:41:21] Speaker D: At what, but, yeah. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Like, you're just saying when the guys that are there watching it are saying something. In your case, you're talking about, they weren't saying something, but in this case, he's literally talking about what has happened. [00:41:34] Speaker D: And they show three things, and the fourth is it. I mean, they're working at a 25%. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Chance at that point, and what he was talking about was already over with that side by side battle, or that bumping and banging. [00:41:47] Speaker D: Whatever it was, was over by the time it came to. And that was like, I was just. [00:41:51] Speaker B: There like, oh, my God, what is this? [00:41:55] Speaker A: It's almost like whoever's picking the cameras is not listening at all to what they're saying. And it gets like a tap on the shoulder, like, hey, we need to. [00:42:02] Speaker C: Show this or talk about it. It's weird. It's almost like too many people in. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Charge and not enough people taking direction going. [00:42:10] Speaker C: Totally. [00:42:10] Speaker B: And I'm not saying, like, it has to be perfect. None of us are perfect at our jobs no matter what we do. But they pay a ton of money to put these races on and travel. [00:42:25] Speaker D: Across the country for 18 weeks of the year. [00:42:28] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:42:30] Speaker B: There has to be a level of. [00:42:33] Speaker D: Professionalism and just a standard that has. [00:42:37] Speaker B: To be where it has to be. [00:42:40] Speaker D: And unfortunately, Fox doesn't hit that standard for me. [00:42:44] Speaker B: A then as a kid and as a younger person, I don't remember, you don't care. But two I'd see people talk about. [00:42:52] Speaker D: All the time somebody posted a wreck and something that happened back. [00:42:57] Speaker B: It was like ten years ago, 2014. [00:42:59] Speaker D: And it was like perfect. The excitement, the camera angles, like just. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Seeing everything that goes on, they're way backed out. [00:43:08] Speaker C: Where did that go? [00:43:10] Speaker B: I don't know. What happened? [00:43:12] Speaker E: I don't know. [00:43:13] Speaker C: But it's like, where did that go? [00:43:15] Speaker A: I don't know. It's got to change. It's got to be something different. Just kind of how things go. [00:43:23] Speaker C: It's going to change as the people. [00:43:24] Speaker A: In the booth change and people in. [00:43:26] Speaker C: Charge change and this and that. [00:43:28] Speaker B: I'm pumped for next year to see. [00:43:30] Speaker D: The level. [00:43:33] Speaker B: Just like Amazon has done for football and bring, I hope they bring new people in and I hope it sets the bar at such a high standard that it brings everyone else up. Like, hope all these people, NBC and. [00:43:44] Speaker D: Fox, I hope they watch what the. [00:43:47] Speaker B: CW and what Amazon and TNT and. [00:43:50] Speaker D: All them do and just be like. [00:43:52] Speaker B: Man, we got to step our game. Just, I think that will happen. [00:43:55] Speaker A: I really do. [00:43:56] Speaker C: I'm very intrigued by it's always good. [00:43:59] Speaker B: And it always makes everyone strive to be their best. [00:44:03] Speaker D: When you're locked in, what'd you say? [00:44:05] Speaker C: Outside of tires? [00:44:06] Speaker B: Yeah. When everybody, you're just locked into what you're doing, you get complacent. And then I think a lot of fans have, we've just seen this complacency. [00:44:15] Speaker D: For a long time now on Fox. [00:44:19] Speaker A: Yeah, very much so. If you're at the top of the top of the ladder, you have nowhere else to climb. And that's kind of where they've ended up. And it just seems to be that it's fallen off a little bit. [00:44:29] Speaker E: Totally. [00:44:30] Speaker C: You're right. What you were saying earlier about it. [00:44:32] Speaker A: It doesn't have to be perfect. [00:44:34] Speaker C: It doesn't. But that was just sloppy. It was sloppy. [00:44:37] Speaker A: If it's bad enough that that's 90% or not. Not 90. If it's a major storyline about what's going on on Twitter, what people are. [00:44:44] Speaker C: Talking about, check yourself. You got to start working on that. [00:44:48] Speaker A: And I know someone's listening, but I don't know if the right person is listening just yet. [00:44:52] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:44:54] Speaker B: We have the most eyes on the. [00:44:55] Speaker D: Sport next weekend, and that's when everything needs to be perfect. And it's probably not going to be. [00:45:03] Speaker A: Absolutely. It's just going to be interesting if they can improve in time. [00:45:08] Speaker C: I just hope they do. [00:45:10] Speaker B: We're also talking about the broadcasting that puts the three broadcasters for the truck race not at the racetrack every week. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Also very true. [00:45:19] Speaker D: Our standards are low. [00:45:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Which makes me wonder, are they putting that director I keep talking about, is he back at some Fox production facility that's not even close to the racetrack? [00:45:29] Speaker B: Probably very much could mean, and that's not the director's. Know if Fox, someone up at Fox is making those calls or the budget's. [00:45:36] Speaker D: Not set, know, whatever. [00:45:38] Speaker B: That's not the director guy's fault. I mean, he's probably there in the war room somewhere back in New York. [00:45:43] Speaker D: Or wherever Fox is based out of. [00:45:45] Speaker B: And he's trying to down as best as he. [00:45:49] Speaker D: And like I said, I said this. [00:45:51] Speaker B: When we first started talking about this. I have no idea how tv is put on tv. I don't know anything about it. I'm not going to act like I. [00:45:56] Speaker D: Know anything about it. Yeah, but, man, if it takes an extra 100 grand to get old dude. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Out to the track, if that's what we got to do, they got 100 grand to make it happen. You know what I'm saying? [00:46:08] Speaker A: Just put them there. If it helps that much. People are giving you shit. If it helps you improve to the point where we can actually watch it. [00:46:16] Speaker C: And not have to worry about you. [00:46:19] Speaker A: It'S a very thankless job, because when the tv does a really good job. [00:46:23] Speaker C: Of showing a race, they'll probably never. [00:46:25] Speaker A: Hear it from anybody. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Good job. [00:46:27] Speaker C: Clap on the back. [00:46:28] Speaker A: But the moment you start screwing it. [00:46:30] Speaker C: Up, everyone's going to be talking about it. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Here we are talking about it, and. [00:46:33] Speaker B: We'Ve gotten to the point now where the freaking Truck series, they have fs one. Fox has the truck series for the whole entire year. [00:46:40] Speaker D: And the broadcast, one, because of the. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Racing in the Truck series, is just a crapshoot anyway. And two, the broadcast is so bad, like truck series racing. And I almost remember us saying this last year. [00:46:52] Speaker D: It's this close to being unwatchable from. [00:46:55] Speaker B: All aspects, from the racing to the. [00:46:58] Speaker D: Broadcast, just the guys not being at the track. [00:47:02] Speaker B: It's this close to just me not giving two shits about when the trucks ever raced, ever. [00:47:08] Speaker A: I don't even remember hardly talking about it on this podcast last year. Unless somebody did something crazy, no one cares. [00:47:16] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm not even diving into that today. [00:47:18] Speaker B: They're not even racing yet. We'll dive into that a different day. [00:47:20] Speaker D: But this close. [00:47:22] Speaker A: Yeah, we can dive into it. The one time a month that they actually do hit the track. [00:47:26] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:47:27] Speaker B: My next note, we kind of already hit. [00:47:29] Speaker E: Just. [00:47:29] Speaker B: We talked about the race. That's what that note is. Bumper cars. I didn't love it. You kind of loved. [00:47:36] Speaker E: Know. [00:47:37] Speaker B: I've kind of changed my mind. Strong, you know, tolerated. [00:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:42] Speaker B: I put on know. I would much rather see Daytona three. [00:47:46] Speaker D: Wide making moves, people. I've seen enough posts now where a. [00:47:52] Speaker B: Lot of those guys rode in the line and stuff, but if you make the race super short, I don't know. There's things they could do where I think they know, make crazy moves and such. I don't know. I don't have the answers for the clash. I'm not going to act like I. [00:48:02] Speaker D: Have the answers for the clash. But I did see someone post about. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Eric Jones winning the clash in 2019 or 2020 whenever his nose was completely destroyed. [00:48:11] Speaker D: And it's like, yes, you all talk about the clash. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Well, this is the last car that won the Clash. [00:48:15] Speaker D: And I was like, what's wrong with that? [00:48:17] Speaker B: I was like, they made the best winning diecast race car I've ever bought in my whole life. [00:48:20] Speaker A: We had a hell of a time watching that race. Yeah, if you didn't like that, don't even watch. [00:48:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I proudly have my Eric Jones 20 sports clip car with that busted up nose. All the tape, all the stuff looks. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Like packaging tape across the whole freaking car. [00:48:37] Speaker B: So, yeah, if you don't like that, I don't know what to tell you. I don't see no problem. The only thing people had a problem with that was. Was because Denny Hammond was a lap down and he was pushing him and he wasn't going to make a move. But that's just the way it was. That's his teammate. That's just the way the cards fell and he was just going to literally. [00:48:52] Speaker D: Push him to the end. [00:48:53] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:48:53] Speaker A: What are you mad about being entertained? [00:48:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:56] Speaker B: That's just the way the cards fell that day. And I had no problem with that race specifically. I know they wrecked like hell and. [00:49:01] Speaker D: It was crazy, but honestly, watching them. [00:49:05] Speaker B: Wreck like hell and be crazy was. [00:49:06] Speaker D: A little more fun than bumper carring it up. [00:49:09] Speaker A: I get it. They always talk about, you want, oh, we were just going out there to junk a car for nothing. It's like, yes, I get that. [00:49:16] Speaker C: I understand, but I don't know, make it. [00:49:21] Speaker A: You're going to have a hard time convincing folks to go anywhere else. We've already tried the going somewhere else. [00:49:26] Speaker C: And it's not working. [00:49:27] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:49:28] Speaker A: And that was always so entertaining. [00:49:30] Speaker C: It's part of the whole of what Daytona is. [00:49:34] Speaker A: Daytona is not just a one day event. Daytona is the clash. Daytona is the duels. Daytona is qualifying. Daytona is having all three series in. [00:49:41] Speaker C: The same place at the same. [00:49:44] Speaker A: I. I get that speed weeks has changed a lot, and it's hardly even speed. [00:49:49] Speaker B: Two or three days, five days this year. [00:49:52] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:49:52] Speaker D: It's like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. [00:49:55] Speaker C: That sucks. [00:49:55] Speaker A: It is what it is. I get it that if you can't. [00:49:58] Speaker C: Make money at it, it's going to go away. But, man, that's just part of what. [00:50:04] Speaker A: Made Daytona so special, is you got to see so much of that type of racing. And they hyped favorite type of racing. [00:50:12] Speaker C: And they hyped it up. And it just really. The clash is like the pro bowl. [00:50:17] Speaker A: To me now, 100%. [00:50:19] Speaker B: I brought that exact example up this past weekend. I love that you say that. We didn't even talk about that. [00:50:23] Speaker D: I brought that exact example up. [00:50:25] Speaker A: It's really, it's a bunch of people that are forced to take part in. [00:50:29] Speaker C: An event in a way that doesn't. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Make it fun because everybody's too worried. [00:50:34] Speaker C: About getting hurt or wrecking a car. I guess NASCAr's equivalent to injury is wrecking the car. [00:50:45] Speaker E: I don't. [00:50:46] Speaker C: Just how lame can you get? [00:50:48] Speaker A: And the longer it stays like this. [00:50:50] Speaker C: The less I care about it. [00:50:51] Speaker A: But I want to care about it. Don't mix my words. I want this event to go on, and I want it to be fun to watch. [00:50:58] Speaker C: But it's not fun to watch right now. [00:51:00] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:51:01] Speaker B: And since we're on the topic, I. [00:51:02] Speaker D: Saw Toyota's TRD's director, Dave Wilson. He said word for word talking about. [00:51:11] Speaker C: The short track package. [00:51:12] Speaker B: If adding more horsepower to cup cars is what it takes to make short. [00:51:16] Speaker D: Track racing better, Toyota is on board. [00:51:20] Speaker E: Props to that. [00:51:22] Speaker D: Love that. [00:51:22] Speaker C: I'm all about it. [00:51:24] Speaker B: Toyota has never been more popular ever than when that man said that the other day. And everybody's like, well, it ain't Toyota's. [00:51:30] Speaker D: Fault then and then. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Now that everybody's so transparent and there's. [00:51:34] Speaker D: So many outlets for people to talk and say things, NASCAR all just keeps saying, oh, it's because of this, because of that. They can't keep lying to us because we got the people that are from the horse's mouth. [00:51:49] Speaker B: It's coming from the horse's mouth with these guys. And just like Denny says, money's not the problem. [00:51:53] Speaker D: They can freaking pay to put extra. [00:51:55] Speaker B: Horsepower in these cars. And I'm not here to say that. [00:51:58] Speaker D: Horsepower makes everything, fixes everything, but it does help. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:52:06] Speaker C: And you know what? That's a great example of, and I. [00:52:10] Speaker A: Think I said this last year, at. [00:52:11] Speaker C: Some point, if the fans are wrong, they're not wrong. It doesn't matter at the end of. [00:52:19] Speaker A: The day if it's what every fan wants, if it's what most of us. [00:52:22] Speaker C: Are screaming about, you could tell us. [00:52:25] Speaker A: With all the facts and figures that. [00:52:28] Speaker C: You could possibly muster that horsepower isn't going to help. Or you could try to even tell. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Us that horsepower is going to make it worse. But if you've got everybody and their brother yelling at you to add horsepower. [00:52:38] Speaker C: To the damn car, just add horsepower to the damn car. [00:52:41] Speaker A: You can hit us with an I told you so after it's done, I don't care. But at least if you're having everybody that's supposed to be paying your bills. [00:52:48] Speaker C: Yelling at you to do it, freaking do it. Why not? Why aren't we doing this? All we got to do is take that tapered spacer off. Let's give it a shot. [00:52:57] Speaker E: Why not? [00:52:57] Speaker C: I know we'd have to change a. [00:52:58] Speaker D: Couple other things, but put in the work. [00:53:02] Speaker E: Yep. [00:53:03] Speaker B: And I'm so sick of hearing about. [00:53:06] Speaker D: Money because we cannot let NASCAR and these teams convince us that they're broke. [00:53:12] Speaker E: Because they ain't broke. [00:53:13] Speaker C: No. [00:53:14] Speaker A: Go to Hendrick motorsports. Tell me that they're broke. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Denny Hamlin just said on his first podcast that the revenue is higher in. [00:53:22] Speaker D: NASCAR than it has ever been. I'm so sick of hearing about money. Nobody that is there and putting this on that make all the call the. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Shots and build these teams like you just said, Hendrick. [00:53:35] Speaker E: Whatever. [00:53:35] Speaker D: Build these engines in NASCAR, they are not broke. If you can go to LA and lose millions of dollars every year, you are not broke. [00:53:44] Speaker E: No doubt. [00:53:45] Speaker A: And at the end of the day, they've made such a huge deal about. [00:53:49] Speaker C: This tv deal and the record set number of dollars coming in from tv. [00:53:56] Speaker A: And here we are getting all this money coming into NASCAR, and that's all. [00:53:59] Speaker C: Great and well and all, but now you got all these teams that are. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Saying, give us a split of that. And you want to know why? Because it's harder than ever to find sponsorship in the sport. We were just talking with Brandon about. [00:54:08] Speaker C: That the other day. It's tough out there. So you're telling these teams to go. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Out and try to fund their races. They're not broke either, by any means. [00:54:17] Speaker C: But they have to have funding from somewhere. [00:54:19] Speaker A: And you're forcing these teams to go. [00:54:21] Speaker C: Out and try to work their sport and their team off of an outdated. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Model that no longer works the same. [00:54:30] Speaker C: Way that it used to. [00:54:31] Speaker E: Totally. [00:54:31] Speaker C: Sponsorship money is no longer something that. [00:54:35] Speaker A: You can just rely on as your. [00:54:37] Speaker C: Primary source of funding. It's become a secondary source of funding now. And they need that money to come in. So, damn, we should absolutely give something. [00:54:49] Speaker A: To these teams to help them out. [00:54:51] Speaker C: Like quit forcing them to run these. [00:54:54] Speaker A: Races without sponsors on their hood because they're having to ask for too much money and they can't make it work. [00:54:59] Speaker C: With these companies that don't want to. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Give them that crazy lump sum like FedEx and Lowe's and ups used to. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Or even we'll harp on the LA race again. You got these guys going all the. [00:55:10] Speaker D: Way to LA and I saw people in the business posting about how hard, not just here recently, but it's always. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Been to sell the clash because it. [00:55:21] Speaker D: Doesn'T mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Like, you got them going all the way across the country, a day and. [00:55:28] Speaker B: A half's worth of driving to get. [00:55:30] Speaker D: There for a race they can't even. [00:55:33] Speaker E: Yeah, like. [00:55:34] Speaker A: And that no sponsors are showing up. [00:55:36] Speaker D: Yeah. Like, no one's going to the clash. [00:55:38] Speaker B: And hanging out in the infield and all this stuff. [00:55:41] Speaker D: Just, golly, man, the list could go. [00:55:42] Speaker B: On and on of just how ass. [00:55:44] Speaker D: Backwards this clash in La deal is. [00:55:47] Speaker B: And we're back on it again. And I apologize, but it's just ass backwards. [00:55:51] Speaker D: And I just think everyone from drivers, teams and fans all agree with that. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Yeah, we're just going to have to call this one. Season two episode two bash the Clash. [00:56:03] Speaker B: Bash the Clash. [00:56:04] Speaker A: That's all we're doing. It just is what it is. If you give us this much ammo, don't be surprised when we shoot the gun. That just is what on that front? Kind of switching gears here a little bit. I see your next note, and I think we should definitely talk about it. [00:56:19] Speaker E: Before we run out of time. [00:56:21] Speaker C: NASCAR full speed hitting Netflix. [00:56:24] Speaker A: Finally, after all these years, we get. [00:56:26] Speaker C: To see an actual production that shows. [00:56:30] Speaker A: You a little bit more about these drivers. [00:56:31] Speaker C: And you know what I'm most. [00:56:34] Speaker A: The thing I loved about it is. [00:56:35] Speaker C: Also the thing I hate about it. It focuses so much on those few drivers that actually agreed to it, and. [00:56:44] Speaker A: That'S something I don't hate, that they. [00:56:47] Speaker C: Focused on the guys that did it. I hate the fact that so many. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Guys actually went out and said, you know what? [00:56:52] Speaker C: I don't even want to take part in that, man. [00:56:55] Speaker A: I get it. [00:56:57] Speaker D: I don't know if I believe it. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Believe what? [00:57:01] Speaker D: That any of those guys would just straight up turn it down. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Brad K. Brad Kay was like, I. [00:57:07] Speaker D: Was never asked, not once. [00:57:09] Speaker C: Yeah, he comes out and says he's. [00:57:11] Speaker A: Not asked, which, I mean, I'm sure they're probably trying to go after the teams that they thought were going to. [00:57:15] Speaker C: Win the championship, which I get, but damn, I wish they could have shown. [00:57:20] Speaker A: More of those drivers. [00:57:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I wish it was like. [00:57:28] Speaker C: All. [00:57:29] Speaker B: 16 would have had something to do with it. And then knocked the four off of the episode. It was kind of like two races per episode. So the guys that get knocked out in the first round bump them off. I wish that's kind of how it was done. Introduce everybody in the first episode and. [00:57:47] Speaker D: Then just knock them off. [00:57:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure it probably came down to money, but everything does, doesn't it? [00:57:54] Speaker E: Always? [00:57:55] Speaker D: But what they did show was incredible. [00:58:00] Speaker A: Obviously, with our house hunting, we don't. [00:58:03] Speaker C: Get much time to sit around and watch stuff. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Honestly, I was still working on it right up to the point where I. [00:58:08] Speaker C: Logged on to this thing to start recording. I've been working on stuff all day for that. [00:58:13] Speaker A: I haven't gotten to finish it yet, but what I have seen, I think. [00:58:15] Speaker C: I'm about halfway through it right now, and it's just been awesome. [00:58:19] Speaker A: You get so much of an insight. [00:58:22] Speaker E: It was great. [00:58:22] Speaker B: I loved it. I'm right there with you. I mean, it's the Denny Hamlin show, the 20 311 show. But yeah, Denny's also, like the star of the sport, dude. [00:58:33] Speaker A: He's put himself on the map in the last year and a half between owning the team and the podcast. [00:58:37] Speaker B: I'm fine with that. [00:58:39] Speaker D: The only thing I would say is. [00:58:41] Speaker B: What you just said. [00:58:42] Speaker D: I just wish they could show all. [00:58:44] Speaker B: The drivers more drivers that made the playoffs because that should be almost like an added reward for making the playoffs. Like, you get that extra exposure from Netflix. And I'm not saying that's going to come back again next year, but Netflix was at the 2024 production day for NASCAR. And Netflix accounts posted stuff about the. [00:59:04] Speaker D: Drivers, and. [00:59:07] Speaker B: They had the drivers sitting like a production chair and asked them funny questions and stuff like that. [00:59:11] Speaker D: So Netflix is there and they are involved. [00:59:15] Speaker B: To what extent and what happens this. [00:59:17] Speaker D: Year, I don't know. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Obviously no one does. [00:59:19] Speaker D: But I could see it coming back. [00:59:22] Speaker B: I mean, it was in the freaking top five. It was in the top five in America. It was in the top five in Australia. [00:59:30] Speaker D: Like they somebody listed where it was. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Like this week and everywhere in the world. It's went over very well, it seems. [00:59:39] Speaker A: And it's a lot of fun to watch. I think my favorite thing that I've. [00:59:42] Speaker C: Seen about it meme wise is someone posted like, denny Hamlin, I'm trying to get that championship. [00:59:50] Speaker A: I want it so bad. [00:59:51] Speaker C: And then it was like, joey Logano. I'm a super serious guy who takes. [00:59:54] Speaker A: My racecraft very seriously, and I have. [00:59:56] Speaker C: These kids and I take good care of them. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Then it was like, bubba, I'm so focused on getting further into playoffs this year. [01:00:02] Speaker C: And then it was William Byron. [01:00:03] Speaker A: I like Froot Loops and video games. [01:00:05] Speaker C: You know who posted cracked my ass up? [01:00:08] Speaker B: Elijah, the guy that runs RFK social media. The guy we talked about last week. He's the one. [01:00:14] Speaker A: He nailed it. That cracked me up so hard because that's exactly the vibe that I got from it, which, I mean, if it's his personality, it's his personality. But damn, I thought that shit was. [01:00:24] Speaker C: So funny when he popped up on the screen for the first time, pouring. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Fruit loops in his giant mansion living room. Pouring fruit loops and then logging on to irace. [01:00:33] Speaker C: And yeah, I was like, God dang, I love it. [01:00:35] Speaker A: That's just hilarious. [01:00:36] Speaker C: Don't change for nothing. [01:00:37] Speaker A: Who cares if the cameras are around? [01:00:38] Speaker B: Totally. So, yeah, I give it a ten out of ten. [01:00:41] Speaker E: It was great. [01:00:42] Speaker B: There's just that one thing I would change props to him for doing it. [01:00:45] Speaker E: School. [01:00:46] Speaker D: I hope it brings new people and new cool things. [01:00:49] Speaker A: One thing I really love that it does is it highlights so much of the crew chief, especially, obviously with Booty. They show a whole lot of him, dude, he's a star of the show. [01:00:57] Speaker D: It was awesome. [01:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah, they show a lot of his relationship with his driver because that's a tough relationship to have. Bubba's a very different kind of driver. [01:01:05] Speaker C: So having him and his crew chief showing the way that they interact and. [01:01:11] Speaker A: How he's got to change the way that he talks to Bubba compared to. [01:01:14] Speaker C: How he would talk to somebody else. [01:01:16] Speaker A: Just because of his mentality is very. [01:01:18] Speaker C: Different from most of the other drivers in the field. [01:01:20] Speaker A: It's a lot of fun to dissect. [01:01:22] Speaker C: That and see what makes things work. [01:01:25] Speaker E: Totally. [01:01:25] Speaker B: I love that Booty was on there and a lot of folks that watch that that are new to NASCAR are going to know that. Booty barker's been a crew chief since. [01:01:33] Speaker D: I was a little know. He's been through lots of teams, lots of drivers, lots of big moments in the sport. [01:01:40] Speaker B: I love when he said he was. [01:01:41] Speaker D: Like, I lied to your ass. I love that. [01:01:44] Speaker B: If you haven't seen the whole thing. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Yet, you probably haven't got, I can't wait. [01:01:48] Speaker B: It's so funny. [01:01:49] Speaker D: He was like, they run bad. [01:01:51] Speaker B: He's pissed off. He was like, I'm having a bad day. I'm pissed off that I'm talking to you. I'm pissed off. You got this microphone in my face. [01:01:58] Speaker D: And he said something's like, they're like. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Well, you said you didn't get like fired up too much. [01:02:03] Speaker D: He goes, well, I lied to your ass. [01:02:05] Speaker B: And then he's like, am I done now? [01:02:07] Speaker A: And he takes the stuff. [01:02:08] Speaker B: I was like, golly, I love that. [01:02:10] Speaker C: I love that. [01:02:11] Speaker A: I'm just here so I don't get fined. [01:02:13] Speaker B: One last thing, we're an hour in. This has been a good episode. One last thing I want to touch on was the Ford and Toyota's new bodies. I absolutely love both of them. And I posted on Twitter, I was like, dude, ford is going to win every single race this year or they're going to run like horseshit. [01:02:30] Speaker D: No one knows yet. But man, I like the Ford the most. I like body characteristics of the Ford the most. I might like the nose of the Toyota better, but the characteristics of the. [01:02:42] Speaker B: Body and stuff, I like the Ford better. There's things I love about both of. [01:02:45] Speaker E: Them, but just want to say I. [01:02:48] Speaker B: Think it looked awesome. I can't wait for next year. Chevrolet is bringing their new toy to the game, too. [01:02:52] Speaker D: So I love the new bodies. [01:02:56] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Ford needed some help, so. [01:02:58] Speaker C: Hopefully it's an improvement. [01:03:00] Speaker A: If you make it worse than it was last year, man, it's going to. [01:03:03] Speaker C: Be a hard year for us Penske fans. [01:03:05] Speaker B: They've won the championship both years of next gen, though, so I don't want. [01:03:08] Speaker D: To hear much complaining from Ford fans. [01:03:12] Speaker A: I watch the championship race once a year. I watch NASCAR 36 times a year. So I really need them to run a little bit better because I get real depressed in the middle of the season that summer. Slumps are real hard. There's a real hard one there for it. [01:03:23] Speaker E: Totally. [01:03:25] Speaker B: But yeah. Looking forward to the Daytona 500 as always. We got qualifying next Thursday, duels Thursday. [01:03:31] Speaker D: Trucks Friday, bush Saturday. [01:03:35] Speaker B: I get married that Saturday. [01:03:38] Speaker A: It's your wedding month. [01:03:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:40] Speaker B: It's like wedding next week. Month. [01:03:42] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Bachelor party tomorrow, wedding tomorrow, wedding next week. Caleb, we're actually going to do this. I think Caleb's actually going to stay in town. We're going to do the podcast together. I don't know if that's still a. [01:03:54] Speaker D: Plan, but I know it was talked about. [01:03:56] Speaker A: We're going to try for it. [01:03:57] Speaker D: We're looking forward to, uh. [01:04:00] Speaker B: I got a wild next few days, man. [01:04:02] Speaker D: I was just telling somebody we got rotten in the morning bachelor party. [01:04:08] Speaker B: I signed my deal Wednesday. You got the Daytona 500, the wedding, honeymoon. [01:04:14] Speaker D: I'm going to Atlanta. The next two weeks are just crazy. I'm pumped. I'm ready. [01:04:25] Speaker C: You're going to need a nap. [01:04:27] Speaker B: It's going to be a wild next two weeks. [01:04:29] Speaker C: Who are you picking on the Super bowl this year? [01:04:32] Speaker D: I could care less. [01:04:33] Speaker B: I'm going to be watching, obviously, because of the Super bowl, but I don't hate care. I don't know. It's crazy to me how good Patrick Mahomes is. And he's 28 years old and he could possibly have three Super Bowls by the time he's 28 and he's already played in 17 playoff games. [01:04:50] Speaker D: Like, mind blowing. [01:04:54] Speaker B: And then you have the 49 ers. [01:04:56] Speaker D: With Brock Purdy and McCaffrey and all those guys. I don't know. [01:05:03] Speaker B: I love Andy Reed. He's like one of the OG members of the fat white boy club. [01:05:08] Speaker D: I'm a big Andy Reed guy. I kind of hate Kyle Shanahan because. [01:05:15] Speaker B: Unfortunately in 2017 on today's date was. [01:05:19] Speaker D: When he screwed the Falcons over. So I don't really know. [01:05:25] Speaker B: I don't really care. [01:05:26] Speaker C: Sounds like you're going for the Chiefs. [01:05:28] Speaker D: Maybe. [01:05:28] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:05:30] Speaker D: I'll see when I get. [01:05:33] Speaker B: As the days come, I might figure something out, but I don't really know. [01:05:38] Speaker A: I'm going 49 ers all the way then. At least cowgirls are in the winners bracket when they lost. [01:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:44] Speaker C: That's the only reason. [01:05:45] Speaker A: At least we lost to the winners. [01:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:50] Speaker E: It is what it is. [01:05:51] Speaker B: It's one of them deals when your team's not playing in the Super bowl. [01:05:54] Speaker D: Which it's only happened for me once ever. [01:05:57] Speaker B: And I say the Super bowl is a great excuse to drink a lot. [01:06:00] Speaker D: Of beer and eat a lot of unhealthy food. So that's kind of where, you know, I'm looking forward. [01:06:05] Speaker A: Every time cars are on track, I'm watching the. Yeah, yeah. [01:06:10] Speaker B: So I'm just looking forward. [01:06:12] Speaker D: We're going to Lindsay'sister's house having a shindig there. [01:06:16] Speaker B: She's cooking a bunch of food, and we're going to drink beer and eat good food and have a good time. [01:06:20] Speaker D: And Lindsay's super pumped for us here. I know some usher songs from back in the day. [01:06:26] Speaker A: I know it from Sprocket Rocket party bikes. [01:06:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:30] Speaker B: That's like music everybody can get down to. [01:06:33] Speaker E: Hell. [01:06:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm into that. Whatever. [01:06:35] Speaker D: It's really whatever for me. [01:06:37] Speaker C: Well, it'll be a good time. [01:06:38] Speaker A: We'll have to. Let's see how it goes. But I'm looking forward for the 500. That's definitely my next big thing I'm looking forward to. Am I? [01:06:48] Speaker B: So before you look at the Saturday before the 500, then. [01:06:50] Speaker E: The 500? [01:06:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, in NASCAR terms, 500, in real life terms, it depends which gets here first, your wedding or finding a house. [01:07:00] Speaker C: Yeah, true. [01:07:01] Speaker A: It's going to depend a lot on that. [01:07:03] Speaker E: True. [01:07:03] Speaker B: You won't have to sign, though, for like 20 something days, so you still got a couple of weeks before you. [01:07:07] Speaker D: Have to sign the papers. [01:07:09] Speaker A: If it even happens anymore. [01:07:11] Speaker D: Gosh, it'll happen. [01:07:13] Speaker C: Life's tough. It gets tougher when you're buying a house. [01:07:15] Speaker B: Thank you all for listening. [01:07:17] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. [01:07:17] Speaker B: Follow raised Rowdy pretty much everywhere except Twitter. [01:07:20] Speaker D: It's like RZR, rowdy racing, I think. [01:07:24] Speaker C: RZD, rowdy racing. [01:07:26] Speaker B: RZD, rowdy racing. You can find me, Dawson Edwards. Music on everything. [01:07:30] Speaker E: Caleb. [01:07:31] Speaker A: Caleb Khan. [01:07:32] Speaker C: Rowdy, everywhere. [01:07:34] Speaker A: You find your fine promotional advertisements on social media. [01:07:38] Speaker B: Follow raised Rowdy. Their main page. Nikki T. Raised Rowdy. Matt Burrell. Follow those guys. [01:07:45] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:07:46] Speaker A: Give them a big old shout out. [01:07:47] Speaker C: They've earned it. [01:07:48] Speaker A: They worked their asses off. [01:07:49] Speaker B: I'm super pumped for this, man. I mean, I know today is kind of weird, doing it a lot later. Our goal is to do it every morning. We all live life and life happens. [01:07:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:00] Speaker D: But we're spending a lot of time. [01:08:02] Speaker B: On this, this year between the races, making notes, doing this professionally. [01:08:08] Speaker D: We have real mics, real headphones, real cameras, real computers. [01:08:12] Speaker B: We have designated time to do this every single week as long as nothing crazy. [01:08:16] Speaker D: We have guests now, it's a slow. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Process, and we always joke about, like, ten people listening. [01:08:22] Speaker D: There's actually eleven. [01:08:23] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. [01:08:26] Speaker B: I don't know how many people actually listen to this, but they tell us that our ratings go up weekly, so. [01:08:32] Speaker D: We'Re on a good trajectory. [01:08:33] Speaker A: And we appreciate it. [01:08:34] Speaker B: We do. [01:08:35] Speaker E: Time. [01:08:35] Speaker A: You all are tuning in. We definitely appreciate it. [01:08:37] Speaker B: And this year, it's cool. Last year, we came into the middle of it, just kind of learned we didn't even know how to do a been. I've been on a couple podcasts. Caleb's been on a know, just kind. [01:08:47] Speaker D: Of shooting the bull, but never doing one like this. So kind of last year, I feel. [01:08:52] Speaker B: Like, was our first year to learn how to do it, get our feet wet, get all this going. [01:08:56] Speaker D: And then this year, every single week. [01:08:58] Speaker B: We'Re going to talk about NASCAR. We're going to talk about our know. [01:09:02] Speaker D: A lot more NASCAR. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Still going to, like I said, talk about traveling the road, doing all that. [01:09:07] Speaker D: So it's going to be a good year. [01:09:09] Speaker B: We got at least a good 38. [01:09:11] Speaker D: Episodes coming this year. [01:09:13] Speaker A: Absolutely. And we are excited for every one of them. And if anybody ever has a question or something that they want us to. [01:09:19] Speaker C: Put onto these shows, let us know. [01:09:22] Speaker A: Let us know what you want to hear about. [01:09:24] Speaker C: If you have questions for us and something you want to know about NASCAR, Dawson probably knows it, and if he doesn't, Google does. [01:09:32] Speaker A: We'll figure it out. But we love to have everybody chime. [01:09:36] Speaker C: In and tell us what they think. [01:09:38] Speaker A: And we always appreciate people listening, so totally. Thank you for making it to the. [01:09:42] Speaker E: End of this one. [01:09:42] Speaker A: Season two, episode two bash the Clash. [01:09:45] Speaker C: I think it was a good one. [01:09:46] Speaker E: Love it. [01:09:47] Speaker B: This should be out tomorrow morning. [01:09:48] Speaker E: You all. [01:09:48] Speaker D: Thank you all very much. [01:09:50] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. We'll talk to you all next week. [01:09:52] Speaker A: Deuce, maybe two weeks from now, whatever week it is. We love you. [01:09:56] Speaker C: Oh, hey, we forgot hack of the week. [01:09:59] Speaker E: Who's your pick? NASCAR. [01:10:03] Speaker B: NASCAR gets the biggest w. I don't know. [01:10:05] Speaker A: Oh, man. I don't know. Hack of the week is a tough one. [01:10:08] Speaker B: Think about hack of the week this week just because all the clash stuff. [01:10:13] Speaker A: Hack of the week is having the clash at La Coliseum. [01:10:17] Speaker B: We gave NASCAR. We started out giving them high praise, but then shit on the clash pretty much for about 40 minutes of this. [01:10:22] Speaker A: Yeah. The hack of the week is the clash itself. [01:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get hardcore on the hack starting in Daytona. Somebody would be super dumb. [01:10:31] Speaker A: Probably a fan running out on the track or something. [01:10:34] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:10:35] Speaker A: Oh, God. [01:10:36] Speaker B: All right, see y'all I'll have a good night. [01:10:52] Speaker F: Carlo and my truck ain't painted black it ain't got a big white number three turning left around a track but you can hear me coming from a mile and a half away these good years can't handle dirt don't need no curves with banks what I like in horses I make up with four by four I'm in and out of traffic till I make it to your door checkers record my foot hammered on the gas I'm making my way to you, girl earn hard, bath close.