S1: Episode 11: Mad Max with More Flags

Speaker 1 00:00:05 This is Ray's Rowdy Racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards. Speaker 2 00:00:12 Hello. Good morning, beautiful people. Good morning America. Good morning. Good morning, Nikki. T We love you. Heck. We have some listeners. Randy Adams. Yeah, we do. Randy Adams, my whole family. Randy Adams is the only listener that we need and that should always be the case. <laugh>. But any more that wants to add in, I mean, we would love to have you, we'll take you right along the thread for sure. Speaker 3 00:00:35 How you boys been? Speaker 2 00:00:36 We're good. You're the one that, uh, Speaker 3 00:00:39 I haven't been as good. I've been great, but then not as good now that I was great for so long. Speaker 2 00:00:43 Yeah. Now that you're back off the road, you're feeling better. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. The, Speaker 3 00:00:48 The camping pad that we got honestly far superior to an air mattress for me. Hell Speaker 2 00:00:52 Yeah. What is a camping pad? So Speaker 3 00:00:53 It's like, it's like a flat, it's like an air mattress, but it's not like, you don't have to like, use an air pump. You just like blow into it and it's like this slow from the ground. Okay. It's like what you'd put on a Speaker 2 00:01:03 Cot. Yeah, right. Exactly what you're talking about. A small tent. Dude, it was great. Liked Cause y'all, y'all were at country concert, right? Oh yeah. Just Speaker 3 00:01:10 For the Speaker 2 00:01:11 Ohio Thes that missed last week that didn't hear where you were headed or didn't look at any of their Instagram. Did y'all run into uh, Liam from Lima up there? Speaker 3 00:01:18 Oh, brother. We brought Liam with us. Oh Speaker 2 00:01:20 Hell yeah. Yeah. He Speaker 3 00:01:21 Sold Mech with us. He's a celebrity there. Speaker 2 00:01:23 Oh dude. Yeah. He's the most popular person I've ever met. Yeah, he is. He literally is. Dude. Speaker 3 00:01:27 He booked multiple gigs just from helping us sell merch. Speaker 2 00:01:30 What a guy. Yeah. Man. Imagine booking gigs. Yeah. <laugh>. That sounds right. That sounds awesome, man. Liam. Liam from Lima booking gigs. Yep. Speaker 3 00:01:40 God bless. A good Lima, Ohio. Speaker 2 00:01:42 Boy man. That's cool. When did y'all get back? Yesterday? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:01:45 I got, we got back and then I returned the rental car. It was probably about four when I got back here. After returning the rental and unloading all the stuff. We haven't like went through the stuff, we just Speaker 2 00:01:56 Unloaded it. That's crazy. So from 5:00 AM We am and we're here at nine 30 in the morning. Yeah, 5:00 AM Last Tuesday till 4:00 PM Last night you've been gone basically from podcast to podcast. Yeah. Nothing from a country concert. Yeah, it Speaker 3 00:02:08 Felt great. But also I'm tired. Speaker 2 00:02:10 Oh, I can't even imagine. Glad to be here. Yeah, happy to. Speaker 3 00:02:13 We Speaker 2 00:02:13 Would be here. Yeah. When we walked in, you're like, man, I've lost my voice being Dawson Public touching. No way. No chance. No chance that happened. Come on now. Ugh. And that's awesome. And we got another big weekend coming up for y'all again. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:02:25 We're gonna do the Lord's work. Seeing you boys. Uh, do your Lord's work out Speaker 2 00:02:29 There, Cincinnati, Ohio, correct. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:02:31 Yeah. It's gonna be Speaker 2 00:02:32 Blessings. Hell yeah. It's gonna be awesome. I looking forward to it. I'm just, as long as we can keep our risers together, man, I will just do back flips <laugh>. If we can just keep everything from getting caught up in a hurricane and if there's no rain and we can keep our, uh, risers locked together. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Consider it the best weekend of my life, man. You're asking for way too much dog. That's a tall ask. I know, but that's a tall ask. Speaker 3 00:02:53 Um, for the, Speaker 2 00:02:54 Does it rain much in Cincinnati, Ohio? Speaker 3 00:02:56 No, just a regular amount. Speaker 2 00:02:58 <laugh>. Which this year has been a lot. Yeah. This year is every day. So what the fuck had a rain delayed race yesterday even? I mean, everywhere. It's raining. The last three races have had a rained issue. Yeah. From Nashville getting moved up. Didn't get to race all of it yet last week. Didn't get to race all of it tonight. Yeah. Or last night. It just keeps coming. So I just assume it's gonna be raining if we have an outdoor show. Yeah. Especially when it's one we're looking forward to. You know, it's gonna be somewhat screwed up somehow. Speaker 3 00:03:22 Where I come from. Rain's a good thing though. Oh man. That's Luke Bryan taught me this week. Speaker 2 00:03:25 Makes woman frisky. Yeah, he told me that when I was a little kid. Speaker 3 00:03:28 Yeah. And he told us again last night, he also had a stain from, he opened a beard to shotgun it by unbuckling his buckle and then using the can Speaker 2 00:03:39 That's awesome. On Speaker 3 00:03:40 The buckle Speaker 2 00:03:40 On the, on the little tit thing. And Speaker 3 00:03:43 Then by the way, it sprayed all over his junk. Yeah. And then he had a, a penis shaped junk stain on his pants for the rest of the night. Speaker 2 00:03:52 What a guy. Yeah. <laugh> Speaker 3 00:03:55 Not on purpose at all, I'm sure you know. Speaker 2 00:03:56 Oh, I'm sure not at all. But you know, there's a whole bunch of ladies up front that didn't mind it at all. They hate Speaker 3 00:04:01 It. Hate it. My one Speaker 2 00:04:02 Bit, funny enough that, uh, rain is a good thing. When I was in Hershey Park a long time ago, you remember in amusement parks they used to have those little booths where you could go to record a song. Yes. You remember that? Oh yeah. No, that was the very first thing that I ever did musically. Whatsoever, was go into one of those booths at Hershey Park in Pennsylvania Speaker 3 00:04:19 Basically. It's like karaoke, but you record it. Speaker 2 00:04:21 Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you just have like, they give you one pass of the song and you did it and you just go in there and they burn a CD for you, with you with the backing track of whatever song you wanna do and you singing over it. Speaker 3 00:04:32 That's how people wanted to play Speaker 2 00:04:33 The tracks. Yeah. That used to be a thing. They used to like charge you in the middle of like course every Tom, Dick and Harry is definitely doing that back in the day. Yeah. I was Tom and then Dick and Harry were in line right behind me. Actually I was Dick. Yeah, he was Dick Speaker 3 00:04:45 Dick Tressler. Speaker 2 00:04:45 Yeah. But right before I went off, I can't remember, it was like Fahrenheit something. The big ride they have there that goes like beyond vertical. They're like, their big thing is like you're technically hanging upside down. It was right next to that. And I went in there and recorded and it was the first time I ever recorded. Do you still have that? Because we need to play it on this podcast. Dude, if I did, I would find it somewhere. But when the, when a couple years ago a roof in our house blew off. The tornado came through. Yeah. It wasn't, it was just straight line winds. Wasn't even a tornado. Just blew the roof off the house and rain came in and just flooded the entire house. So a lot of stuff got put out into the, uh, storage home we have behind us and it just turned into a big, uh, the brown house actually. Oh dang. The White House is cool. The brown house is, dang. They definitely charge like $800 a month in Nashville to rent it out and someone would still live in it, but I promise you wouldn't want to. Speaker 3 00:05:33 Yeah. Damn. I've lived in some pretty crappy apartments over the years. I've lived in like a basement apartment in the Shady side in Pittsburgh. Oh really? It was disgusting and awesome. Speaker 2 00:05:42 <laugh> disgusting and awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. Just Speaker 3 00:05:46 Like a, like felt like you should just throw trash down there, but instead I lived in it. Speaker 2 00:05:50 Yeah. I mean it happens. Oh yeah. I mean if you threw all of all us in there, it'd basically be both. It'd have trash thrown down in there there and people we'd be living in Speaker 3 00:05:58 It. Oh, there's plenty of trash in there throughout the year. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:06:00 <laugh>. Oh it does, it does tend to happen. Yep. That's so funny. But yeah, so that's my anecdote for the day. If I find the CD one day I will put it online and we will put Yeah, I think we should totally find that cd. Yeah. I remember I messed up one line in the second chorus and I've freaked out and told no one they could listen to it. Cause I was super embarra hyperconscious of myself. Embarra, it happens. Damn Speaker 3 00:06:20 Burrell would've done like the, the version where he sings Dirty words on every song. Speaker 2 00:06:24 Heck yeah. That's what he would've done. <laugh>. Oh man. Speaker 3 00:06:28 He was in the trailers camp for too long. You can't think listen to songs in the Speaker 2 00:06:31 Moon. Yeah, no. I can only imagine because it sounds y'all had like a little modular home thing y'all were living in Verre said, and then you were this weekend. Speaker 3 00:06:39 Oh no, we slept in tents. Speaker 2 00:06:40 Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. And then just sleeping right on the right on the camping pad. That's good time Speaker 3 00:06:45 On the Lord's work. Yeah, we're doing the Lord's work. You Speaker 2 00:06:47 Do shower at all? Speaker 3 00:06:48 Oh yeah, you do Speaker 2 00:06:48 Shower Speaker 3 00:06:49 Dolls. They're like seven bucks a day and then it's like, that's the best you're gonna feel all day. For sure. Speaker 2 00:06:53 Yeah man, I would, I would need a shower. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:06:56 Same two a Speaker 2 00:06:56 Day. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:06:58 Well, they're only up until six, so Brill. Like he was, you know, he was like, the first day he's like, dude, are the showers open? We Speaker 2 00:07:04 Get back <laugh>. I'm Speaker 3 00:07:05 Like, no dude, I wish Speaker 2 00:07:06 God imagine taking a shower at 6:00 PM and the sun's still out. You're still gonna be outside all day. Yeah. That, that kinda sucks. That defeats are kind of the purpose. Yeah, no, we're just literally getting yesterday's gunk office halfway through today and we're getting a whole nother day's worth of gunk on us in the next two hours. Yeah. The uh, the last time me and Caleb went to Dega in 2019, uh, the hot water heater went out in the camper. So we didn't have hot water, so we just didn't really shower. Yeah. As gross as that is. And uh, did you Speaker 3 00:07:33 Use baby wipes? Speaker 2 00:07:34 Yes. Hell yeah. So, so I was, so there's a good documented picture of me and my hair. For some reason, my hair was just, when I say long, it was long for me. It's just real fuzzy, you know, all fucked up. The pro and Kayla's taking a picture of me and I'm bent over and I got like a plate of food on one knee and I'm like washing my feet with baby wipes on my other, like in my other hand. And you said like a whore bath or whatever and it was like Talladega shower, Talladega shower. That was it. It's like, damn, that's kind of sucks. Yeah. I mean, I know everybody else calls it a whore bath, but it's just a Talladega shower for us now. Speaker 3 00:08:05 Realistically. I mean, that's better than not wiping up at all, you Speaker 2 00:08:09 Know? Yes. Yeah. The thing, and I don't know, since y'all are in a field that's probably similar, but see at Talladega everything is just covered with red dust. Yeah. Including you. Yeah. So like you're, youre gross. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:08:21 You're disgusting. Speaker 2 00:08:22 Yeah, you're gross. Speaker 3 00:08:23 Like I still have dust in my nose. Yeah. It's not red dust in Ohio, but it's Speaker 2 00:08:26 Dust dust. So like you're you're covering it every day. Yeah. And if it doesn't rain, I mean it just gets terrible cause it just goes up in the air and then it all settles down overnight and then it all kicks back up again in the morning. It just never sucks. It's like going to a dirt track crash. You can like see it in the sky. Oh yeah. Cause everybody's, they got these little uh, roads, they're like made, you know, to go down whatever and there's just trucks and four-wheelers and go-karts and golf carts just going around at all day from Yeah. From 9:00 AM till 9:00 AM it just probably it never stops. Really. Yeah. It's, I mean even at three o'clock in the morning we're passing out it's Yeah, still happening. It's like mad max with more flags. I love it. <laugh>. It really is <laugh>. You'll get to see it, you'll get to excited. Experience it. I'm excited. I'm ready. Yeah. I'm so excited for that. I really can't wait for that weekend. Plus Speaker 3 00:09:11 It's a write off, which is great. Speaker 2 00:09:12 Yeah, it is. Speaker 3 00:09:13 Write it off. Speaker 2 00:09:14 Yeah. I just write it off in my bank account. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:09:16 I just write it off and then, then we Speaker 2 00:09:18 Write it off. Uncle Sam's still gonna come collecting. Oh Speaker 3 00:09:21 Yeah. He's gonna take his money still. Always. Speaker 2 00:09:22 He's just Speaker 3 00:09:23 Gonna take a smidge less because we weren't for the internet. Speaker 2 00:09:26 If you're hearing this Uncle Sam, I am broke. I need your money. Yeah. Good luck. For real. Well me and Kayla, we had the same, we had a carbon copy of last weekend. Yes. Uh, this weekend. Yeah. Just in reverse. We didn't have to load out. Yeah. So, or load in. We just had to load in all of our stuff. Gotta to stay on the risers. And I don't remember if I talked about this last week, but our risers have to be in, in a part which that's no fun to have to take everything apart. So had to get everything back together. Forked it up on the stage. My favorite part of all this was, they originally told us when we first got there last week, that we were gonna roll our shit up a ramp like 40, like I'm talking about like a 45 degree angle, possibly more severe. Speaker 2 00:10:07 That sounds great. And I was like, and the best part is there's like a little baby ramp to a platform and then a 45 degree angle. So it's just like I, I, I was sitting there, I was like, no chance any of this stuff, like doesn't just fall down, you know, no chance. So finally end up talking to somebody and he was like, he's like, I'm telling y'all y'all need to fork this up. And I was like, if it was my vote, we would be forking it up. But that's above my pay grade. So the guy with the, with the forklift certification of course was the one that was encouraging the forking. Yeah, yeah. Fork it up. Yeah. And we fucking, uh, I, I don't know, I, I guess I, I dont know who made the call, whatever. We ended up getting the fork it up. Speaker 2 00:10:44 So Yeah, we got the fork it up super easy and we, like we were talking about last week, had to come through that little middle door. That's where we had to load and load out everything. Oh yeah. So they just cost, just couldn't keep everything together. And it was a lot less stressful this week though in, in my opinion, like it I guess cuz you've already done it once so you know it to expect could push it all the drums and everything out, flip the rug over, unhook everything. I kept a little uh, what are those, what are those called? The thanks to unhook, the risers. What is that called? Coffin key. Coffin key. It's called a coffin key, which is basically just a giant Allen wrench. Yeah. Nice. With a tea handle on, just kept that in my pocket. I had 'em, I had 'em spread out across the stage for us. Speaker 2 00:11:21 I had one in my pocket and had one on the drum rides. I told Caleb, I was like, there it is. Heck. So you know when you get up there, you already know. Yeah. Cuz last week we got up there and I was not prepared with having one in my pocket <laugh>. And we went from having zero coughing keys cuz we lost one in Myrtle Beach to having three this week. So that helped <laugh>. I don't know where they all came from. I don't either, but I love it. But there was one like sitting on our stuff, there was one in the bus that had like a carabiner on it and then we had this little bitty fella that I had in my pocket. So little tiny squirrel boy. He was a little one. Just a little tiny little tiny squirrel. Squirrel boy. So yeah, we got that all figured out and sort of off topic, but have you ever thought about if you were gonna be a stage hand, which one you'd want to be? Speaker 2 00:12:00 Cause I'd definitely be the one with the forklift certification cuz it's so funny. The only thing they have to do is encourage you to use forks and then whenever they're using the forks, they just have to pick something up off stage and put it down and they pick something else up and put it down. It's literally all they do all day long. I'm gonna be the stage chan that doesn't do math. Uh, I don't think those exist. Ooh. <laugh> dude had some really good ones this week. I'm totally judging, but we had some great stage being in Nashville. The stagehands that work at the Bridgestone are fucking awesome and they all know what they're doing. Which like I said, I sense expected that here. Yeah, yeah. But when you go to, but fuck nowhere. That's just random dudes that want $15 an hour. Yeah. That do meth to buy meth with. Speaker 2 00:12:38 Yeah. Which I have been one of those people back in the day that a math guy. Well just the $15 an hour guy, <laugh>, big meth guy. I mean I was borderline, but no, didn't, didn't end up going that far. But I mean did, when we were working at UPS back in the day, I was one of those random guys that just wanted $15 an hour. I didn't care what hours I had to work. I was 10 to two. You were three to seven. It was awful. Three, I wish I got off at seven. I was fucking three to like 10. Oh man. It was a lot longer. Got a lot longer shifts for y'all. Yeah. It wasn't that, it wasn't that way for us. We had, uh, this wasn't too long. This might have been that Louisiana show with uh, Randy Travis getting inducted, but man, the stage hands we had, dude could couldn't speak English. Speaker 2 00:13:19 They were like, and not because they weren't American. Just, just, they were just couldn't speak very well. Speaking, draw speaking, draw something. They're speaking Cajun. This one dude Cajun Creole, this one dude, I posted this on Twitter, I swear to God he was like 12 and he had a flip phone, which was pretty OG <laugh> and he's got fucking neck tattoos and hand tattoos and he's wearing a pair of pants that like, looked like they'd fit like a 400 pound guy. But he was like little skinny guy and had him like cinched up with his, with his belt, you know. Yeah. Did a fold over job. Yeah. I'm not really sure where I'm going with that story, but I'm glad he told it. It, it was just like, God bless that guy. I hope he's doing well. This dude, this dude looks like he's 12 but could also be 45. Speaker 2 00:13:58 I can't tell <laugh>, but he like, maybe he was 57. Like I'm not gonna fuck with the guy that's got a flip phone and, and hand and neck tattoos. Like no. You know, he's down to go to jail. Absolutely. He's, he's, he's more down to go to jail than I am. So like I don't wanna fuck with that guy. I don't keep smartphones on me because I get in too many fights. Crack the screen all the time. Yeah. My wife always yells at me for looking at my GPS <laugh>. So just one of those deals, you know, <laugh>. Oh my lord. It's the stories we could tell man. <laugh>. Yeah, dude. And then like I always bring up in Jackson, dude, they just give you SIGs when you're born. Yeah. <laugh>. There you go. Here's a pack, here's a fucking Marlboro right here. Stick, stick your foot on this piece of paper. Speaker 2 00:14:35 And then here's a pack of SIGs. They're like camel crushes no longer exist, but they do here. See that was like the first thing when this kid, other than the neck and hand tattoos, I was like, this dude looks really young and he just fires up a sig and I'm like, damn. Yeah, it does check out for sure. But I just like, I I don't know if you could have guessed how old he was. Like if somebody gave you like a multiple choice question of how old this kid was and started with age 12 and ended with 45. Could have been any of those Know what this Yeah, I wouldn't know. I didn't know what to select. This poor fella has no idea that we're talking about, but, but he's a gentleman and a scholar and we love you and we hope you're doing great. Speaker 2 00:15:10 He got, I mean it was, that was an easy day. We got everything out of there and we managed to make it all work. So I mean, yeah. That, that day was fine. You never know what you're gonna get. It's always a question mark. But like kids, like a box of chocolates, of course. You know, you, you move to Nashville and there's just good, good hands, good work. People know what they're doing. It's like they do this every day and it's like they're here to do it. So there's, they also wear hard hats in case anything falls. Hell they do. They're super safe. Hell yeah. That's how they showed us the difference between loaders and stage hands. Cuz I was like, because a lot of shows like loaders, they just like, they have a set of people that just load trucks. They have another set of people that help on the stage and he was like, yeah, stage hands have helmets on. Speaker 2 00:15:48 I was like, easy enough. Cool. Yeah, that's actually great. Yeah, it's like a beacon in the night and yeah, they're great. They did and there's a bunch of them but it's not like too many. Like they just, it's it was great. Yeah. I wish we could like have those in the ones from uh, little Rock, Arkansas that we, we, we came off the truck in uh, little Rock, Arkansas without Dean off the stage in the truck. Doors closed in 45 minutes. Damn. That included forking off the stage. Yeah. So, damn y'all are big forks now. Big forks dude. We were it last year for sure. Yeah. Forking it up man. I'm telling you. Sounds like a blessing. My favorite part is whenever we have stage hands ask us right before the load out starts, Hey what's your, what's your record on load out? And I always give 'em some number that's like ridiculously high. Speaker 2 00:16:34 Not that's way over what we actually do it. Yeah. Because if you make it feel good, well if you tell 'em that your actual record is 45 minutes, they're gonna try to do it in 30 and shit's gonna get fucked if you tell 'em that you've done it in an hour. Whenever they hit 50 minutes, they're still super proud of themselves. But you don't have them rushing around like crazy trying to beat a record that they're not gonna beat. It's one of those things like play a little bit of a mind game with em. Love it. Give them a, give them a really big number so they feel really good about doing the job you wanted them to do anyway. I love that. It's one of those like special little things. Caleb had a guy just the other day. He, he was definitely, he was like one of the higher people at the venue and he definitely thought his shit didn't stink and we're fucking not even got a piece of equipment on stage yet. Speaker 2 00:17:14 And he had already asked Caleb what our load out best load out time was and it's like, bro, it's 10:00 AM <laugh>. Yeah. Like what the hell? We didn't even unload it. Oh yeah. And he, he walked up, he was like, oh we'll beat that. Yeah, he got that. We we'll beat that. Well we beat that for sure. He said my favorite, my favorite thing to do is before I get anybody hired, I test him. I give them a 30 foot XLR cable and tell 'em they have 10 seconds to wind it up if they can't do what I don't hire 'em. And I was like, dude, I don't even know if I could wind a 30 foot XLR cable in 10 seconds or less and not, I don't really care to do that <laugh> then it's just gonna be, that's a dumb requirement. That is a really dumb requirement. Like, ah, let me just test this out. That's like going to a NASCAR pit room and saying if you can take five lugs off in, in two seconds or less, you're hired. And it's like, well dang you're just hiring from another team then because you're not gonna hire anybody brand new that can do that. That's what you train them for. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:18:01 If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. Speaker 2 00:18:03 Exactly. How fast can you inflate a tire? I don't know how much air do I have? <laugh>? I can't, can't really tell you. Maybe this XLR cable is 30 foot long and it's been coiled up like dad's extension cord over your arm all day long. It's not gonna coil up correctly. Yeah. Who Speaker 3 00:18:17 Knows? Miss you dad. Speaker 2 00:18:18 Miss you dad. Speaker 3 00:18:19 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:18:22 I But anyways, good weekend. Good weekend for all of us on the road still <laugh>, good weekend Speaker 3 00:18:28 NASCAR and stuff. Speaker 2 00:18:30 Yeah, NASCAR and stuff. Yesterday's race was just probably my favorite race of the year. Dang. Incredible. I love that. Absolutely incredible. Riveting from from day from lap one to lap, whatever the heck they ended on. I was so depressed that they had to end it early and so was everyone. It was just like deflating to have like that much of a awesome race and then to have it end early cuz of rain. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:18:53 It's like songs about rain, dude. Speaker 2 00:18:54 Yep. It's like when people bring up politics before noon on Thanksgiving, it's like, dude, we could have waited until the end at Speaker 3 00:19:00 Least 3:00 PM Speaker 2 00:19:01 Yeah. At least when I leave. Dude Rain. Speaker 3 00:19:03 Rain Speaker 2 00:19:04 Has fucked so many things for me this year. It has races and shows included just has fucked me. Speaker 3 00:19:11 Dang. I mean luckily the rain is what makes us like be able to live on this earth though. Yeah. Which is cool. That Speaker 2 00:19:17 Is cool that that part's cool. Yeah. If I could do doesn't make that living hard sometimes. Just play it when it was coming. Speaker 3 00:19:23 Yeah, that'd be better. Speaker 2 00:19:24 Oh yeah. Luckily this weekend they're talking about rain in Cincinnati. Usually on those big fest, uh, big uh, amphitheaters we're way in the back and they got those huge roofs. So it's almost like a tin inside. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> way. Yeah. If the the rain did come, it'll still get hot but it won't be wet. Yeah. Anyways, back to the race. Sorry. Yeah, it was a good time. I enjoyed the heck out of it. We were uh, just dog tired. Uh, Allison had her family in, so I didn't really party too much yesterday. We, they left in the morning and we stayed in bed hungover until literally the race started. Then we finally got up, made some shepherd's pie, which is a great hungover food by the way. Speaker 3 00:20:02 Oh Speaker 2 00:20:03 Hell yeah. Great hungover. That was my rowdy race day meal right there. That's Speaker 3 00:20:06 Beautiful. Speaker 2 00:20:07 Yeah. Duck pizza. Speaker 3 00:20:08 We should start doing that where you guys take a picture of your race meal every Speaker 2 00:20:11 Week. We, we talked about that originally. We should totally do that. Rowdy race day meal. Yeah. Rowdy race day meals and post that on Sunday because usually we cook something cool on a Sunday, like the steaks and stuff, Speaker 3 00:20:21 But, and then if people start digging into it, you'll like cook weirder and weirder shit. Speaker 2 00:20:25 Yeah. Heck yeah. You know, yesterday was checkered flag, uh, shepherd's pie, so Speaker 3 00:20:29 It's like I'll come over for Speaker 2 00:20:30 That. Here's the, like you flip every square over so you have brown. Do you have the meat on one up on one square? Oh that's gonna get messy. The potatoes up on the next square and it's a little checkerboard and it'll Great. Speaker 3 00:20:39 God that sounds great. Yeah. Y'all need to stop talking about that <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:20:43 I'm gonna eat. I should have brought you some leftovers. I had some extra. Yeah, I'm gonna eat one of my Eat Well meals in there. Yeah. Yeah. We uh, we got up finally started watching and it was just, that was absolutely incredible and I think what helped made it incredible, once again, I'm gonna give the rain credit for what it ruined. It actually I think made it better because people were racing twice as hard from the very beginning. Oh yeah. It was the constant, constant battle for the lead. Nobody would give it up side by side racing the whole time. The Amar Logano thing and the stage one where they were passing each other back and forth. When the hell have you seen that in a long damn time? That's what I'm saying, it was so old school. Yeah, it very much was. I loved which like they could do this at Daytona back in the day, but when you could just drive from the high line to the low line and get so such a run just cuz you're driving straight downhill and turning kinda like a diamond but not really a diamond. Speaker 2 00:21:33 Yeah. You're just turning straight to the left, you know, harder to the left. Um, that reminded me of that. Like, and not necessarily it worked every time like did did you know, coming on the back just like on the front stretch, the the guy on the outside of four was definitely getting a run and that's what happened. Yeah. We saw that a bunch with them then saw it with Blaney and Larson on the end of stage two that was mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the guy on the outside definitely is getting a run, but it is what it is. I mean I I I enjoyed the piss out of that. Yeah. It kept him honest. I mean you watch people enter into three on the inside line and you thought they were going 10 miles an hour faster than the field's. Yeah. Yeah. Then yeah, once you're right, once they exited whoever's on the outside's definitely the one that's gonna get the lead I guess. Speaker 2 00:22:11 Does he kept it wound can keep it wound up the inside guys just barely, you know, he's just coming off of what he is got. But it wasn't like they dropped four or five spots. They may have dropped two if they had a bad exit, but if they had a clear lane up up on top of 'em and they could just get up there, they'd hold, serve with everybody down the front stretch through the dog leg. It was, that was cra it was just crazy. I mean you, you go to Talladega and Daytona nowadays with these new cars, they're either too wide or they're single file and there's not a whole lot of passing going on either way. Somehow Atlanta has been able to combine the best things about mile and a halfs and the best things about super speedways and put 'em all together and they can actually hit the wall bounce off of it. Speaker 2 00:22:51 Cuz you know they're gonna be touching that wall a ton because it's such a small track for doing that kind of style of racing. And they're able to do all these crazy moves. They're able to collect the cars back up. They're having to let off, they're running side by side for laps at a time and it's just badass the whole time. I mean there's tons of passing. You had passes for the lead going on constantly. You had passes in the back three wide, sometimes four wide off the corner. What was not to like about that race other than the lap count at the end? Yep. It was. I just, I'll give this one. Accolades. I love that Dale Jr. And uh, Jeff Burton and Steve Laar were all talking about, man, this is, this is ticket to buy. This is the ticket to buy. If I'm got a first time fan, I know what I'm gonna do. Speaker 2 00:23:37 I'm sending them here. I used to send 'em to Bristol night. You know what, still a good race. Nothing like this Short track racing sucks right now, so we'll just go to Atlanta. Exactly. Which is fine. I'm totally okay with it. I've, I've loved all the races on New Atlanta so far. Every one of 'em I've enjoyed and in and, and, but they've all each gotten better from the very first one to mm-hmm. <affirmative>, whatever, you know, got to see it firsthand in March and it was like, it was nuts. Nobody ever had the lead longer than 30 seconds. And I loved what Dell Jr said yesterday, he was like, it's like Talladega. But in fast forward he was like, they're going the same speed but it feels like they're going faster cuz the track is so small compared to them. And if you're gonna make or move on the back stretch, like you don't have a whole mile to do it. Speaker 2 00:24:23 You gotta do it in, in, you know, way shorter than that. And uh, that makes, that automatically makes for more exciting racing. There's no, there's no like, there's no guessing where you're gonna go. You gotta put the car there and go. You don't have time to it. You know, uh, ease in there a little bit with that little bitty straightaway, you know? Yeah. So you gotta put the car and just rock it and roll it. And I just love the analogy of it's like Talladega, but it fast forward cuz it really is like being there. We sat out, we got the sit on the pit box. Shout out Brandon, r f k, they've rocked it yesterday. I had money on both of them. Um, they're just, they're it's, it's just so fast and it's like we talked about yesterday, even on the back stretch, they, they feel, you feel like they're right behind you cuz they're, the track's so much smaller, they're not a mile away, you know, so yeah, that should be their slogan. Speaker 2 00:25:15 Not that they're gonna use that, but Talladega fast forward man, it's just awesome. The track's hot as fuck slick. They can't keep the cars. People are about wrecking and qualifying. They're about wrecking in the race. Gotta let off generates, runs like that. Like it's, it's like pack racing, but there's all this, it's like pack mile and a half racing. I don't know. It's, it's cool as hell. It's, it's cool as fuck. It's what they've been trying to get out of every mile and a half on the schedule. They finally got it out of Atlanta. Cuz you notice that they sort of had the same thing going on when they first brought these cars out. Especially at places like Las Vegas. They call that the Talladega the West. They do, and you can see what they're talking about, but it doesn't quite have that same feel because the banking isn't quite as extreme there. Speaker 2 00:25:58 You gotta let off too much, a little bit more worn out. It does get strung out out there. It's, it's not quite the same thing. And then all of a sudden Atlanta got repaved and it was a, it's a whole new type of racing in my, in my mind it is a completely different style of racing that we haven't seen before ever. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean we've seen plenty a mile and a half that end up with close battles for the lead. Kurt and Kyle at Kentucky, Kyle and uh, Larson at Chicago. There's, there's plenty of finishes where the guys end up right on top of each other trading a lead like that you don't have it for the full length of the race like you did yesterday and that, that's what I was talking about. Like you just at, at the March race, this is just like, I'd love to see the lead count or the lap count from them because every, no one had to lead longer than just a second. Speaker 2 00:26:49 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and somebody, somebody would get risky. Same deal as yesterday was then Reddick was making all kind of crazy moves. He just was not content with just sitting back and rolling. He was Would you say he had ants in his pants yesterday? Yeah, that's what, yeah, he, he was, he was ready to just go somewhere and he not wanting to be behind anybody else and he kinda had that same thing going on then. And uh, him and Kowski worked together a bunch. Yeah. At the first race. Not yesterday but the first race. So just peruse man. It's like old school like that was, that was, that was Dale Jr's mentality about plate racing. Like he, when he has all these young guys talking, you know, calling him and asking him any advice and he was like, don't don't just sit around and wait like you have to be aggressive. Speaker 2 00:27:33 He's like, when the race comes down to the end, how are you gonna know how to make a move if you don't practice being aggressive the whole race. So you know what's gonna go on, you know? Yeah, it's very true. And those guys, the most aggressive guys, they, they wind up being the ones in the top five, top 10. Yeah. You can race smart and aggressive all at the same time. It's very proven. I mean you can watch Logano, you can watch cuz Do it Loves dude he do it. You can watch any of those guys that are good at drafting tracks and they will, they'll show you what it means to be aggressive but within boundaries. Yeah. I think uh, Klowski a win is coming for sure. But yeah, even after yesterday it puts him and he's always been in that top three to five for me on plate guys. Speaker 2 00:28:14 But dude, he's, he's like one or two watching the moves he made when he came off that last pit stop at when the rain was coming to get to fifth. I mean dude, he's put on a clinic of moves to make and how to get there. It was just incredible. Yeah, it's funny too because I really haven't noticed him at very many plate tracks like I did yesterday. I'm not saying that he is been riding around back or like where he was very front the whole time. Yeah, yeah. I mean it, Atlanta, I guess Atlanta specifically is kind of where I'm trying to get with that at Talladega in Daytona. I feel like nowadays it doesn't matter if you're good or bad at a plate track, you're just gonna ride around. You can't make the passes. It's so frustrating. It feels like it, it it, they Atlanta somehow it's so much smaller but you can make passes cuz you can do that shit on your own and you can get somebody else to jump with you and they're having to let off. Speaker 2 00:29:02 Yes. And it's, it's a hard, so that's why Daytona and Talladega, when you're like Denny Hamlin talks about like used to back in the day like he would be, he's like, I'm cool with being 10th with 10 to go, I'm fine or yeah like he's fine with that but now he was like, you gotta be up there because everyone is just two by two by two by two and you can't get that third lane to make an extra move cuz they don't generate enough power he says to be up on that outside lane. No, it's very true and Don the only way to do it is you had it like almost like 10, 10 and 10, you know what I mean? 10 on each row. 10 cars. Well yeah and they just, like you say, they don't have the power to make passes anymore. That's sucks. Speaker 2 00:29:39 As soon as you hit that wall of air at a big track like that where everyone is completely wide open, there is no such thing as a run good enough to make anything happen anymore. I don't know if you remember it back in, man this has gotta be about four or five years ago, 19 65, 19 60, 70 odd, 11 to 12. Uh, there was a day where Truex ended up losing the draft at, I can't remember if it was Talladega or Day and he drove his way back up there and he drove his way back up to the draft. Remember by using the corners like he would in a mile and a half and starting out the outside going way down there and then getting the run off the end of it and coming back up to the wall again. Kinda what he was doing on the outside yesterday. Speaker 2 00:30:20 Yeah, well not quite the same, not quite that same thing cuz he would come off the wall in three and just make a normal corner like a mile and a half and he caught back up to the draft. But that was before the horsepower had gotten really cut down to the point where you cannot do that anymore because your car is already pegged out. It doesn't matter if you're at the top or the bottom, you can't catch back up to anything. It looked goofy and, and there were some crazy wrecks and stuff but Ryan bla he did great at it. He's always been a great plate guy. But he did great in this package is when he won most of his races. But they, when they had the package and the horsepower was about 600 and something and they had that, it looked goofy. I it looked goofy but that humongous spoiler and they had that, the clip over the top that was like an inch and a half long. Speaker 2 00:31:04 Yes. In my opinion, I, from all the races I've seen back in the day from all the races I've lived in and seen, that was the best plate package. Oh it was stupid dangerous but it was, it was very dangerous. Fun as hell. It was awesome watch as a fan. And that was from like, uh, this the, they quit it with the new car so it was all the way from probably like 18, 19, 20, 21, somewhere in there. I can't remember when but somewhere in that area. Yeah, I know it was still in 19 cuz I got to go to a couple of them, but yeah cuz it was like a rubber band effect if you front, there was no such thing as having a comfortable lead because you basically were parachuted because you had in the runs that giant big spoiler back there. But then the guy behind you had a huge advantage over you because you were block, you were knocking a hole in the air as big as a house. Speaker 2 00:31:56 Yeah. So they had nothing but fresh, clean and wide open drafting air for them to just get out behind you and just take off. But as soon as you got out into that clean air, it was like your whole back end just got set into the ground and you had this big giant parachute on you. That was, it was, it was awesome. Cool as hell. And the driver, it was starting to get, I say unsafe but like there were some, oh it was unsafe as hell. There were some flips and crazy shit happening and every time that happens NASCAR says, no, no, no. You know, so, which I, I can appreciate and I know the drivers appreciate it but man, just to go back and relive some of those races, God that was, it was a lot of fun. But we're getting that back now. Speaker 2 00:32:35 I've always said this though, talking about plate tracks and everything and most people love play racing. There are those little assholes on Twitter that say it success. Yeah. But like there is a reason, there is a reason Talladega and Daytona are two of these sold out four of the most sold out tracks every single year and we're about just add Atlanta to that. Go ahead and get ready for next year. Yeah. But there's a reason why and it's cuz they're exciting as fuck. Yeah. It was awesome. Like, uh, we were just looking at the Jeff Gluck poll on the way in and it was sitting at what, 89, 88 right now. Yeah. Which is disappointing. And I guarantee you if the rain hadn't happened it'd be in the mid nineties. There's no way that that race was only 88% light. Are you looking at back up again to check Yeah. Speaker 2 00:33:19 For Jeff gl. Yeah. Yeah, it was, I mean it's one of those races usually when it's pegged out by right now it's usually like that's where it'll be. Yeah. And I mean if you, I just, I don't understand why anyone say they wouldn't like this race. Like you said, it had to be, it had to be cuz of rain, 88% and he said 13,000 votes. So Oh, it says a number, number number. It's a lot of votes lot songs about rank. Yeah. It'll, it'll, it'll be around that 88, 89, 90 somewhere in there. But man Yeah, and it was one of the best races of the year, dude up it's up there with Kansas and uh, ah, Kansas like was really fucking awesome. Yeah. Kansas and this was Kansas, this and the other Atlanta race. Those are like probably my top three of the year. Like they've been, they've been sick. Speaker 2 00:34:00 Yeah. I mean they, I can't remember who it was talking, I think it was Steve Laar was talking about how awesome the last string of races has been for NASCAR and I couldn't agree with him more. This was awesome. Chicago last week, total surprise. Didn't see it coming. Awesome. One of the best, one of the most watched races on NBC sports in years then I think, think since it's like 2014 or something they said, wasn't it? Yeah, Chicago. It was something crazy. Like absolutely insane. And then the Nashville race right before that, everybody loved that one too. So it's just been three solid weekends in a row and I'm just, so, I'm excited for that. I mean they always talk about how the summer slump is a thing in nascar. I don't feel it <laugh>, I feel like everything's been going just fine wide open. Speaker 2 00:34:47 500. Yeah. I don't get it. I wouldn't say 900 horsepower, but it's 550 or whatever the heck they're sitting at now. Six 50. But yeah, that's fucking disappointing. Depressing <laugh>. Hey, if it makes racing that good, hell, I'll take it. <laugh>, it was awesome to watch. Yeah, it it does. It does. And it and what they're doing right now on those tracks, it's fine. But we also, we talked about on the way over here, we're also screwing our short track package during all this. Oh we are. They're running a uh, and we can't do that. We, NASCAR needs short tracks. I, the way I look at it, man, is I don't, I don't know of a single time in NASCAR that I've been watching that I personally have been watching. I can't speak to anything pre 2017. I wasn't around for that. But I can't think of a single time where there wasn't one package everyone was bitching about for a long time. Speaker 2 00:35:37 It was mile and a halves and then it was, man the super speedways used to be a lot more fun then they made those fun, but then this one got bad. There's always some package in any car that they've had that I've ever seen that suffers from a lack of something. And they're gonna put a ton of work into the short track package and we're gonna have a pretty good rounded schedule as long as they don't change anything. But then they're gonna change something and there's gonna be another package that we're all complaining about. The way I see it is just, it goes through phases and right now the short track package is the one that's going through the phase. But like you said, they're, they're putting in the work and they're trying to take some swings out. So that's what I was about to say. Speaker 2 00:36:13 They got a big swing coming today and tomorrow there's about 10 guys going to test New Hampshire to test this new package. That's surprising. They're letting them test the track. They're about to go reset, but the package is so different. I don't think it matters. It might not, but just at lap time and just being in the seat in general. Definitely. This is already the second New Hampshire test also. Yeah. Uh, bell Elliot wasn't that like earlier, wasn't Reddick maybe? No, cause Bell was a Toyota driver because Bell called the engines gutless. It was a big deal. Gutless, I remember this, I remember this because of that statement and he's sitting in the media center with, uh, it's him and Elliot. I can't remember who the Ford driver there, but he was, they were just, that was only three guys. Huh? They just did one of each. Speaker 2 00:36:58 Uh, I remember that. It's Ben Bennett, but I do remember that. Yeah, he called the engines gutless. Yeah. Eric Amarillo was about to have a good couple weekends in a row. He's usually good at. So will Bell. Bell in New Hampshire for sure. Talk about bets. Bell will be a, yeah, bell will be a big, big surefire one. Amarillo will be your long shot. Top five bet. I don't see him winning but me neither because I could see it being something Amarillo. Man. Amarillo. It's not on my list of favorite people. I know you hate him. No reason. Nice guy. No, I do. I do have a good reason though. Actually not good reason. I've never been like the biggest fan, but like, hey, you know, I'll talk to any NASCAR driver, you know, whatever. And uh, 2019 when I met, met him in Kentucky, I had fucking hung out with every driver. Speaker 2 00:37:43 Got to meet all these people, all this stuff. And people as big as like Jimmy Johnson, you know, and Eric Amar is by himself over at a garage stall by himself, not even at his car. And I asked him for a picture and he was like, no man, I'm about to go practice <laugh>. I was like, dude, fuck you. And ever since then, me and dad just been making fun of that motherfucker since then. Dang him and his big ass teeth wouldn't give, he wouldn't give you his phone number so he just on the shit list now. But I get it, he wouldn't even gimme a pack of bacon. Wouldn't even, wouldn't even do it man. <laugh> wouldn't even do it. He could have drove you to Walmart right then and bought you a $7 pack of pack of thick cut. Do you think he's sent back next year? Speaker 2 00:38:22 No. You think he's out? Yeah. With as much as they're struggling this year, the fact that he already almost retired, I don't even think Smithfield could talk him back into doing it again. Honestly, I think SHR needs a ton of work and I don't think Amarillo is willing to, do you think Smithfield stays or are they out too? I could totally see Smithfield staying if they look, I mean they may really enjoy their relationship with Amarillo, but there's a reason they want him back cuz they don't wanna leave nascar. If they wanted to leave NASCAR and go do something else. They could have done it last year when he said he was retiring. It's just gonna be super not good for SHR when Anheuser and Smithfield leave. Well, I mean they, nothing's been super good for that team right now and they really need, I mean they need a reality check in the worst way. Speaker 2 00:39:01 I keep bringing this up. I know everybody probably thinks I absolutely just hate h r I just hate the direction they're going in. And so, and like John's gotta be hard. John, Josh, John is gonna be a plus. See that I absolutely love, which tells me they're, they're willing to put up the money, they're willing to do the things they need to do, but for some reason they are not able to get the cars going. Dude, I saw because there's days, there's times when certain teams will lag behind. Like Hendrick was suffering a little a couple years ago, now they're at the top of their game. You had r absolutely dominating and now they're at the bottom of their game. I mean those things, they just like the, I was talking about with the packages on different types of tracks. There's moments where each team has shining well, comes out and just shines and then they struggle. Speaker 2 00:39:47 This is a whole different kind of struggle. You don't go from winning nine races in 2020 to barely finishing in the top 30 for two of your cars consistently track after track after track. Briscoe is not a slump of a driver. He's a very good driver. Why is he finishing in the thirties? Why is he finishing in the twenties? There's a bigger, there's a huge issue. I'm tired of bringing it up, but Yeah, I saw a funny thing. They, for some reason they've been posted on the old seven post machine, which for y'all that don't know what that is, is when the car goes on this thing and they put in the info of whatever track and they have the track basically lasered out to all the bumps and the way the car does on the corners and stuff. So you know, it's sitting on the seven post machine and it's doing its thing and the car is, and they've been posting this like weekly like of a video of each track or whatever and someone fucking posted said, that's a real expensive machine to run 35th <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:40:40 I was like, dang God, just put 'em down. That's tough. But it just, they just are sucking. Yeah, it is what it's, they're, I mean there was a, there was a moment that Paris was running up for they all juniored great yesterday ran at the pole shit. That's the thing. They had 'em so trimmed out for qualifying and it's like, how do you screw this up that bad? I just don't understand. I really don't get it. But it is what it is. I mean like I was just bragging about how Ryan Prest was running up front for a minute there. Yeah, 24th. Oh yeah, they all finished bad. Yeah, everyone of them, what the heck is going on? I saw 'em post their, their uh, finishing order thing. They, they all ran bad but yeah, I'd make fun of 'em for getting beat by JJ Ailey. Speaker 2 00:41:22 But unfortunately about 33 cars got beat by JJ Ailey yesterday. It was a while. Hey, I'm so here for a JJ Ailey top 10. It's his best finish since 2008, which is insane when he was running for Gibbs. If you had asked me five years ago where his best finish was gonna come at since 2008 and you told me that it was gonna be at Atlanta, I would've laughed you right outta the building. And then boom, here we are. They've completely changed this racetrack and he goes up there and finishes in damn seventh. Yeah. See, unbelievable. See JJ Yaley used to be a, uh, hot commodity back in the day he ran. He was, he ran, he drove the 18 car. Did you know that? The 18 interstate battery car for Joe Gibbs for a season for a long time. Wow. No, that blew my mind. Speaker 2 00:42:05 Yeah. Can't believe I have lived this long and I've not even seen a die cast of a car that JJ Ailey drove with a drove with a 18 on the side. JJ Ailey used to drive for Joe Gibbs and was like, I'm pretty sure you're just April frozen me right now. I swear to god damn wild things you never knew he was, he was a, he was a big deal back in the day. Dang. That's crazy. Wow. You learn new things every, every day. And then once he got out of that ride, it's just been ha he's had to hop around and do things, you know, ever since. But that, that was, that was a thing. Damn. Wow. Well good for him for getting up there and getting a good old top 10. Almost had a top five out of it. Yeah, he finished seventh, right? Speaker 2 00:42:38 Yeah. It was impressive if it wasn't for Brad Klowski just making absolute crazy moves on people. Man, let's talk about that. So I had, uh, I didn't have a whole lot of bets yesterday, but the bet, like when we bet on plate tracks, it's, it's, you know, Corey Lejo is always a good chance to make good money. Brad k Buscher, those are all good chances to make great money. McDowell's, another one should have put money on McDowell's. Didn't fucking do it like an idiot. Always runs good at plate tracks as the rain is coming. The 17 is pushing the six car. I have a bet for Kowski to win and I have a bet for Butcher to finish top three. And I was just like, dude, let the bottom drop right now. Yeah. I I had a completely different tune today if we got rain and that would've been the way it was. Speaker 2 00:43:22 I mean, it's so funny as an, if you're betting on nascar, I guarantee you if you have placed any bets in nascar, there has been at least half of the races you have bet on. You left at some point saying, man, I was sort of right because in the middle of that race, BTY bbl, I bet on and Joe Blow here that I bet on we're running right where I needed him to. So I'm telling you I knew what I was talking about. And then the finishing result just looks like you're the biggest dumbass ever walked the face of the planet. That was me and you both yesterday. Yeah. With the way that everything ended up. Cuz I had a bet that that pit stop screwed us. Oh yeah. I had a bet that Blaney would win. I had a bet that Truex would win and I had a bet that Klowski would run top three. Speaker 2 00:44:04 And at one point all three of 'em were in the top three. Yeah. Racing each other. So it was like, man, I'm the, I'm the smartest SOB that's ever walked this, uh, ever walked this planet DraftKings should just make me president of the company. I know exactly what the hell I'm doing. Truex finished 29th, he got up in that wreck. Blaney finished ninth, Brad Keslowski finished six. It's just so funny how the betting works in this industry cuz you just can't, you cannot predict these races that there's any advice I gotta give, give to anybody that bets on this stuff. Pick a winner or two, but make a lot of small bets across the field because you're gonna make more money making smaller bets across the field than you are trying to pick exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah. We don't really pick, I don't mean I don't think you do either. Speaker 2 00:44:50 We used to put money on our favorites and like maybe one other guy that we think is gonna win. Yeah. That's what I did yesterday. And then it's a ton of top fives and a ton of head-to-head. Yeah. Head-to-head with a way to go because that at least at that point you have a chance of things happening beyond your control, not screwing up your entire day because you're only racing two guys against each other instead of one guy against 35. I also had a good parlay going until the seven car was going backwards down the track. And I was like, well there goes that parlay. Oh yeah. I mean the longer the race went, just the more bullshit got in the way of us winning money. But see the thing is that caution came and uh, as the end of the stage and rain is close, rain is very close and Klowski and Bush and all those guys are leading, they had like 12, 15 laps worth of gas and they were like, if we run and they ended up running 20 so they made a good good call, but they were like, if we run anything over these 1215 laps, we are going, we're screwed. Speaker 2 00:45:46 And they didn't wanna take that chance, which makes sense cause they ran 20 laps at the end. Yeah. So I totally understand. But uh, man, it was like heartbreaking to watch the 17 and the six and all those cars pull down pit road. Cause that just me and Caleb just lit some money on fire and threw it out the window. I put $10 into my account the day before this all started. I made all those picks and Brad Klowski finishing one spot behind Kyle Busch ruined one of my parlays. One spot behind it was a three pick parlay. I picked the other two fine. I needed Brad K to beat Kyle Busch and G lost it by one spot. Yeah. I needed that to happen too. But that was also in the parlay with, uh, Lajoie having to beat somebody. And like I said, yeah, he got screwed on that. Speaker 2 00:46:28 So I needed Joey Logano who ran up front all day long to beat Chase Elliot who ran in the back all day long. That didn't happen. That did not happen. Oh wow. Where did Elliot, where did 13th, where did Logano went up? Finish 17th. Oh wow. Yeah. But that was, it was one of the, that's one of those things where at least the odds for winning. That's the second time I've dropped my phone today. I've lost my mind. I didn't know what that was. I didn't know what that was. Just lost my mind. But yeah, it was one of those days where you can try your damnedest to pick this race and you're not going to, um, one thing that we hadn't talked about yet that I, I brought this up in the car ride on the way up here. I did not save it for the pod, but I'm bringing it up on the pod right now. Speaker 2 00:47:04 Brel, you can yell at me later. Um, I was talking with you about how that's the first time, and this has happened at a drafting track of all places. You would never think that this would be a thing that happened at a drafting plate style racetrack. First time in a very long time that I can genuinely say we watched someone find something in the middle of the race that made them so much faster than anyone else on the field. They were passing three cars at once and that was Truex finding that high line. I know you brought it up a little bit earlier, but just to bring it up, you first saw it when Truex is running about 15th and just suddenly he gets in that high lane up close to the wall and just passes three guys in one corner. At first I thought, man, that was awesome. Speaker 2 00:47:53 Like he, he just managed to get around them with a good run. Good for him. Some bitch comes around there and just does it again. Passes two cars the next time <laugh> and everyone in the broadcast booth immediately says it. He found something up there, he figured something out. And he manages to get all the way from 15th to fifth in the matter of what, a couple laps, four laps. Yeah. A couples couple laps. Dang. Absolutely unbelievable watching. Yeah, they said Blaney spotter got up and was like, Hey, he's making some hay on the outside. Like, get up there. And Blaney got up there and stopped the run from happening. But, and that was the moment that it quit. It was pretty, it quit then. It didn't happen anymore. I don't recall after that. I did, he also got caught, caught in that wreck. So I don't really remember. Speaker 2 00:48:32 Yeah, he got, he got caught up in that wreck and it did still happen, but it definitely became more of a tool in his tool belt than the only run line he was running. Because I think he realized that if you just keep going up there, the guys on the top five are gonna see that you're never gonna have that run if you're just trying to do it every lap. They're just gonna go up there and block you every lap. Yeah. And that's, yeah. So I, it, it was just incredible to see that that was, that was probably the most impressive moment in the race for me other than reddick saving it on the front stretch. That was also, that was pretty impressive. So much shit happened in that moment. Like your exact words were he is like reddick's, like, what the fuck? I was running single five now I'm getting fucking hit and this 10 cars get fucking with me. Speaker 2 00:49:09 Like, and then the 40, the 43 car that hit everybody finally. But the Pace car to put himself in there, I love Eric Johns. I really, he's one of my favorite guys, dude. Oh absolutely. He fucking hit everybody yesterday. He did and he finished 11th. Like out of all the people that he hit, I'm pretty sure everyone he hit ended up in last and he ended up finishing 11th right outside the top 10. Yeah. Which for legacy right now is a, is a godsend. I'm so excited to see them go to Toyota. Man. I really think that's gonna change a lot for them. Well yeah, so instead of uh, bumping up there and leaving bow ties on the back end, everybody, you'll be leaving little Toyota stamps on the back end to everybody. Like a little, Hey, I was here tattooed. Yeah, that's, that's what he was doing yesterday. Speaker 2 00:49:44 I yesterday to see it. I mean he was imprinting that bow tie on anything he could find to put it in. The only thing he didn't hit was the wall on the pace guard. Oh, he hit the wall? Well, I mean multiple times. Okay. He did hit the wall, but like not taking himself out. I'm surprised he didn't wreck is what I'm basically trying to say. I thought you just meant heads ball. Oh no, he definitely hit, hit the wall. I remember it coming off the corner on coming out of two, hit it twice with two. He hit the once when he hit the 20 car once when he hit the 54. I remember those, both of those happening. It was hilarious. I mean, just playing bumper cars and a field of Corvettes out there. It was really funny to watch, but hell, hell yeah. Speaker 2 00:50:19 Where we we at on time? We good? Uh, 50 50. Okay. Yeah. Uh, I, I'm not gonna lie, I was tempted to make him my hack hack of the week just for hitting and knocking everybody out of the place. I don't really, this was a really tough week to pick a hack of the week. I have a half a hack of the week. Who's that? Rain, rain, <laugh> Mother Nature. Mother nature gets her second appearance on the hack of the week list. Mother nature dude, second rain. Yes. My hack of the week, my hack of the week was going to be both RFK cars. If they didn't run 20 laps in that last before the rain came, I was, I was if it that if they would've ran like 11, I would've, they would've been my hack of the week. The RFK cars? Yeah. Why for pitting? Speaker 2 00:50:58 Uh, they had to, if it, I'm saying if they didn't run all 20, just like I just said, if they would've ran like 11, they would've my hack of the week. But they ran over 20 laps. So I would've argued, I would've argued that point with you if it had actually happened. But that'd been just fine. Ah, a good little debate. I don't know. I just think there was, there was no choice. They didn't have a choice in the matter tube pit at that point just because I, they had five, six laps of gas left, 12 to 15 laps of gas left. Uh, they can say that all they want to. I'd be a little more conservative on it. And they ended up hitting and I got it. It made sense. I mean, Blaney finished up in the top 10. Klowski finished in the top 10. Speaker 2 00:51:36 There was guys, excuse me, they were making it back up to the, to the top spots. Just like I don know why BBA pit just like pit. They drew it up Pit. Why did Bubba Pitt? He had, he was on the same laps as the guys that won. I car was just loose. It was just loose in the corner and I wasn't sure I was gonna be able to hold it. So I just said, you know what? We need to fix the problem. That was the weirdest interview ever. Absolutely. They ask him something, he is like, yeah, you don't tell your secrets or whatever. He's like, what the fuck's your secret? Secret secret. Don't <laugh>. What? Hard drugs. He don't sell your secret. So for hard drugs, anyone that doesn't know and pr uh, qualifying Bubba goes out there, the car is loose and he doesn't make a lap. Speaker 2 00:52:10 He just brings the car down. Literally did what Caleb just said. He like, it was loose. It was just loose. You know what? Loose. Frustrating but just loose car. And they asked him something else like, yeah, we don't tell our secrets. You know, nobody tells their secrets and then every, there's tos and shit. I was like, what the fuck did that mean? Like what was that? God dang. Super weird. But you know, that's Don't Bubba Wallace being Bubba Wallace, you know, like a three year old walking away with a cookie in his hand saying, I don't tell my secrets. It's like, well we know you got that outta your cookie jar and you know, we know you weren't supposed to be in there. Yeah. So like what <laugh>, I just don't get it. I like cookie jars. That was weird. But it is what it is. Speaker 2 00:52:49 I everybody, I was already thinking it was him and someone else. It was on that like had still had plenty of gas. Plenty of gas. I think they were, I think their mentality was that they were gonna go down, put two tires on, try to get ahead of anybody that was pitting for just fuel or, or not, not just fuel, but anybody that was gonna put on tires that was running outta gas like Ke and Blaney and all them that were running up front. I wonder if that was kinda, their plan was to get two tires on it, have a little more traction, be up in front of a lot of guys and then be able to work their way back up to the field. Yeah, I wouldn't, uh, I wouldn't be too confident in working my way back to the field if I was Bubba Wallace, but, well, his crew chief was sure booty high on the idea. Speaker 2 00:53:32 I don't know why he was so high on the idea. He ended up finishing 25th <laugh>. He had plenty of gas to make it to the end. The pitted finished 25th. Just didn't work. That four tire strategy didn't help him. Two tire strategy. It wasn't Yeah, I'm pretty sure they pitted. Didn't take two tires. I, yeah, it just like, you know, odd whatever. It's super odd. And Pete, I was thinking it was odd. Then I got on social media and everybody's like, why the fuck did Bubba Pit? He has plenty. He's on the, he's on the race winning strategy here. Like to not pit. Yeah. And car was loose. Had to bring it down to Pitt Road, get it fixed. We don't tell our secrets though. We don't tell our secret that that's a big secret of pitting when you have enough gas. That's a secret For sure. Hey, if we start talking man, everyone's gonna start finishing 25th <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:54:17 But yeah, I mean all said and done, like we said, I guess if I had to, if I had to make a hack of the week, I didn't get a chance to watch the truck race, but putting rain tires on trucks, my hack of the week idea, like just no reason We should be trusting the truck series drivers to race in the rain. What'd you say? There was a montage of like four laps and there was like 20 spins on those four laps or something like that. There was literally a dude that posted, uh, like incidents seen on TV and it like went through lap lap, like lap seven and there was like on lab one, there was about this many lap two by this many three. I mean there was literally like probably 15. Yeah, yeah. On the list and like seven laps. And he said that was just what they had posted. Speaker 2 00:55:03 They're like, you know, shown on tv. Yeah. Also weird. This is, this is just how a fucking weird fox is. Uh, and I think they've done this previously, but they're do a like remote booth. So the booth, those people, Jamie, little Phil Parsons, whoever was in the booth, Michael Waltrip, they are in Charlotte. The race is in Min Ohio and they're watching video screens like we are on tv. So they're, they're literally calling the race. Like it's, we're watching it. They don't have, they can't see anything. They don't know what's going on. And it just is, and it's not their fault, it's just their circumstances. But that is just stupid. I don't get that. Like, and then they get dog drugged through on social media and it's like, yeah, I get it. Like they're just calling shit. That's like, not even, or like, not even, it's just shitty cause you know what I mean? Speaker 2 00:55:54 Like, I mean at that point it watching on tv, the director for the cameras, that's what I'm saying, is the only one that's really telling you what's going on with the race. Cuz they're just having to react to everything. It's not their fault. They're just reacting to it. Like Yeah that's like, we are, that's weird. That's frustrating. I didn't even realize that they were doing that and I, you know, it's just so they can save money. Oh yeah. Like yeah, we're not getting enough viewers for this truck series stuff to send y'all actually out to go do it. So the truck series, man, it's just, it's in a bad place. It is in a bad place. I'd I it's in a bad place. Sad. Just taking back, sad to, that's super sad. 20 19, 20 18 when I was watching every race that happened, I would record truck series races and go back and rewatch 'em cuz they were awesome. Speaker 2 00:56:35 They were a lot of fun. Nowadays it's just a place where everybody goes to learn how to not wreck. And they, and they're, they, but the problem is the only way to learn how to not wreck is go through a few, which is gonna happen, but they're, I mean, they're cherry picking these kids that are 16, 17 years old and trying to get 'em from the rip. It's like they're not like basketball players. You can't be that good. And it, those kind of sports require you to be young because you're gonna be more, you're gonna have more energy, you're gonna be able to do more with your body and you're gonna be able to make a lot bigger moves at a younger age where you can learn the sport to a good enough level that yes, there's still plenty for you to learn, but your physical abilities are gonna outweigh the, your lack of experience. Speaker 2 00:57:19 You can't do the same thing with race cars because as soon as they wreck, that's, that's hundreds of thousands of dollars they're ruining and they then you gotta call a caution. The race has gotta stop for a minute. The way we restarted, we get a half a lap through and boom, we got another wreck. And it's just, it's so hard to watch anymore. It is. I just don't have as much fun watching the truck series as I used to because the lack of experience is so evident that the racing isn't even fun to watch. It's like watching people try to get their way through downtown traffic. The truck series was way cooler when it was like all the old heads that were like too old to race cup went down and raced trucks. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And the field was like 50 50 of like, when I say young, they were still like in their twenties. Speaker 2 00:58:04 But young guys and then guys in their fifties, that was like peak truck like 2010 probably somewhere in there. Like that was fucking dope. And you had guys like Johnny Benson, Mike Skinner, uh, Ron Horn today. All those guys down there running at Bobby Hamilton, all those guys. Like, that was when the truck series was cool. I don't know how they expect a, we've all over 16 once, I don't care how much talent you have, <laugh>, you should not, I don't get why they lo they lowered the license for the thing to get in the truck series. Dude, let's move it back to at least 18 or 21. Like, you know what I mean? Like it that just, I don't understand. It's 16 years old, you don't know your ass from your elbow. Yeah. Or if you're gonna, if you're gonna let 16 year olds drive, why are we trying to, I know they still have a, a technical limit on what you can do with size of track at a young age. Speaker 2 00:59:00 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you can't go to every track. You can't go to a super speedway or a mile and a half. But we can go to a road course and run off into a hundred yards worth of dirt over here and get stuck. Yeah. And cause it, like you said, a 10 minute caution. Yeah. And then, and then in two seconds do it again. Unless a half a lap. Exactly. And if you're gonna, if you're gonna let these young kids drive it, then fine. But you can't do, they can't do what the Cup Series and Xfinity series drivers can do. So why don't we make it like it used to be and do a lot more short tracks. Do like what Arcas doing where they go to short tracks and they race on smaller, smaller places. I'm not saying be like ARCA because otherwise we'd all be depressed. Speaker 2 00:59:35 Oh God. But I'm talking the types of tracks they go to cater to the types of people that are driving the cars. You're you're a hundred percent right. You can't, you gotta learn, you gotta learn racecraft mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you're not gonna learn racecraft at a fucking road course No. In a truck. Like you're a hundred percent Right. They should go, they should literally race likes I think like 16 to 18 short tracks. Maybe run Charlotte a couple times a year and like run Daytona. Yeah. Other than that dude. Like they don't, they they just need to learn Racecraft and then really do they need to learn Racecraft there? They can learn how to race the tracks in Xfinity in a car where you gotta know how to fucking drive. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and people aren't gonna put up with your shit. <laugh>. Yeah. You're gonna get punched in the mouth because Josh Berry's gonna flip you two birds on the back stretch of Phoenix. Speaker 2 01:00:20 All they do in the truck series is is talk shit about each other and talk about how bad they are and then wreck. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But every guy in the field talks about how shitty everybody in the field is. But that sounds like a NASCAR heat lobby just about and they wreck each other on purpose. Just let they do them there in those Yeah, absolutely. Carson Hobar looking at you. So I don't, I don't, I don't. It's in a bad place. It's so our hack of the week is the, the truck series <laugh>. The whole series. The whole fucking series. Man, I hate, I hate that. Just like you said though, I hate that. But it is what it is. Well there's a reason I've missed a whole lot of truck series races this year cuz I just don't enjoy watching those. I don't bet on 'em. It's just like betting. I'd rather bet on fucking two squirrels in the backyard. Damn. Ty Gibbs and who an actual squirrel. The black ones from put in bed, the Speaker 3 01:01:05 Black squirrels from Ohio. Speaker 2 01:01:07 They're Speaker 3 01:01:08 All over the Speaker 2 01:01:08 Place up there. It's Fox squirrels. You ever seen one of those? No. Fucking cool. They're like red fox squirrels. Yeah. When Ty Gibb is on a truck race. <laugh> Okay. Yeah. Rain in truck series. Right? I'm sorry, I'm done with, of the week Hacking Ty Gibbs squirrel jokes for one day. That was Speaker 3 01:01:23 Pretty blessed. Speaker 2 01:01:24 Yeah, that was, it was a good great weekend. Absolutely loved the whole weekend. Would do it again? Why not? Let's do it again. March Less rain. Yes. With less rain please. Yeah, we got, uh, this weekend we're in Cincinnati, St. Louis in Texarkana. Opening up for Eric Church for the first two shows. Speaker 3 01:01:40 See y'all in Cincinnati. Speaker 2 01:01:41 Heck yeah. You're gonna be there. Burrell's gonna be there. I don't know who else is tag on you guys. You Speaker 3 01:01:45 Guys are gonna get to meet our, uh, our writer Sam for the first time if you come out and hang with us. Speaker 2 01:01:50 Heck yeah. Speaker 3 01:01:51 I I guess there is like no tailgating in lot proper so we're gonna have to get there early so that we can be in the lot where you can actually tailgate. Speaker 2 01:02:00 Well at least they named it correctly. Lot proper. We don't do that tailgating stuff. Yeah, we Speaker 3 01:02:03 Don't do that. Speaker 2 01:02:04 Yeah. This is very proper. This Speaker 3 01:02:06 Is very proper. Speaker 2 01:02:07 Very proper. Should be fun. Should be fun. It's, I'm excited. It'll be cool. I'm excited too, man. It'll be awesome. You know what I heard, uh, with the, uh, with the Eric Church camp, they have a rule in place that if you're in the compound backstage anywhere from uh, front of stage lip back in the bus lot area, no cameras allowed. You cannot take a picture sense photo of anything, which is more strict than usual, but makes me really excited to know what the heck it is that we're gonna be seeing back there. I'm very excited to see it. The devil's lettuce because they're, he's done a completely different set this year and a completely different style of show is what I've heard from That's what I heard. Yeah. From Dawson and from others that it's a very different show. I see posts on social media about it all the time. Speaker 2 01:02:49 Yeah. So I'm, I'm excited to see it. I really want to see what's going on with it and can't wait. See, I've seen church in concert two times already, but it was back when like outsiders and pre outsiders. So it's a lot different than what's going on now. So side then you call that insiders. Yeah, <laugh>. I'm excited to see like what it is now, but I mean I'd put Eric Church one of the reasons I ever picked up a guitar. So Yeah, I'm, I'm super stoked. Yeah. Last time that I saw Eric Church was when I was lo I was working for Luke Combs back in the day. I don't think you remember seeing Eric Church either. I, I'm getting there. I was working for Luke Combs back in the day. So the funny thing is I've never seen Eric Church on a show I wasn't working and that will hold serve through this weekend. Speaker 2 01:03:28 And I was working for Luke Combs back in the day selling his merch. We're at a festival in Wisconsin, don't remember the name of the festival. It was a great time that you could tell by what I'm about to tell you cuz got done. And if you're a merch person at a festival for an opening band, you have the easiest job in the whole world. I promise. You do. Cuz you have maybe two items you're allowed to sell two to four, you put'em in a booth, someone else sells 'em for you and you just come pick 'em up. You barely sell anything because somebody else is, everybody's gonna either be out by the festival t-shirt or the headliner t-shirts, everyone else chop liver. So you bring in two boxes worth of merch, you take two boxes worth, worth of merch home and that's your whole job. Speaker 2 01:04:09 So I drank all day long like I was going to the festival not working it <laugh> and God absolutely obliterated went out to front of house to watch the Eric Church show, made a bunch of new friends in the front of house booth and I remember three songs, a scarf that he wore for Springsteen and that's it outside of those the old American Flags car. That's it. That's all I remember. And next thing I know, I am on the bus dancing around and getting in everyone's way. People were trying to microwave food and I'm just all up in the way. Definitely not my finest moment but man, one of my finest memories. It was an awesome time. I would 10 outta 10 would do it again. Don't remember anything about the church show except for being in front of house in three songs. Hell yeah. What a great time. Speaker 2 01:04:57 Sounds like a Caleb Conrad story. We'll end it on that folks. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We'll y on next week. Yes sir. Yeah, absolutely. There follows up race, rowdy racing, Caleb Con, rowdy Ray, rowdy Nikki, t Dawson, Edwards music, all of that Ray rowdy racing on all the socials. Also go uh, go follow pepper belly feet just cuz his food's really good and I really like watching him make it. I'll fuck with Pepper belly Pete. He's a man. Heck yeah. I just wanted pepper. He follows me on TikTok, which I'm pretty proud of. Yeah, that's, that's one of those, that's like Pokemon cards collecting those kind of followers. It's a great time. That's, he's the man. Hell yeah. So go get him Allall. Follow. We'll see y'all next week. We, we'll see Speaker 3 01:05:33 You guys at the other row that is the front row or the lawn. God bless America and God bless Speaker 2 01:05:38 You. Eagle screech. Insert it here. Speaker 4 01:05:54 It ain't got big white three but you can hear me. I'm.