Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:03 Welcome to Ray's Rowdy Racing with Caleb Conrady and Dawson Edwards.
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Speaker 2 00:00:11 Let's go, let's go. Boogey, boogey, boogey. Daryl Walter back in the booth. Hey, welcome to episode. What is this? Five? Uh, yeah, five for Larson. Hey, look at that. It's episode five Racing. How do you forget? It's on your shirt. It is on the shirt. My name is Dawson Edwards. I'm a co-host here. Mr. Caleb Conrey. Caleb Conrady. I don't know why it's Conrady. Hey, we gotta be a, I gotta do at least a little something. Self-promotion. What up folks? Same shameless self-promotion, but heck yeah. What's going on folks? Episode five, man. That's, it's really flow by, by man. I'm so surprised. We're already at episode five. Let's, let's start this episode off talking about how we almost had our first little viral moment last week. Oh my goodness. We thought the video that we got a clip last week of Caleb s not comparing Chastain and Earnhardt, whatever shades of in way shades of the, the just great video.
Speaker 2 00:01:04 Just clear, crystal clear, had the audio, had the fight. Put a number three on Chastain's hat, like shout out to I Icon, all that. I killing all that looked great and gets 256 likes in just a pinch of time on TikTok. Yeah. Maybe, maybe pull it off three hours. They pull it off. Yeah, I am still Take it down. I'm still pissed, dude. I'm still pissed. Terrible. I mean, and part of my vanity, of course, it's like mostly me on it because you're on vacation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, like feeding into my own vanity. I saw it going super well real quick. And I went to bed thinking, I think we're gonna do pretty good. I woke up the next morning and had this big thing. I didn't even have, it didn't even show the amount of likes or comments or anything that was coming on this video.
Speaker 2 00:01:53 All it said was, your post has been removed due to violating TikTok community standards. And I looked at it, I'm just, I re-watched the video four times trying to figure out what we did wrong. But in typical TikTok fashion, I, I have no idea what we did. So that fight is all over TikTok. We didn't cuss, we didn't say anything bad. And the fight is on every other video on my for you page, so no clue how it didn't go through. Exactly. True. And I, the whole time I'm even talking on that video, it's all, all I'm talking about is the guy in the yellow shirt, and even Brandon, our buddy at RFK that sent us that box, few episodes back, he even texted us and told us who that guy was. And I heard a couple other folks talking about it on broadcast. Such every video out there talks about the guy in the yellow shirt.
Speaker 2 00:02:35 Yeah. And it's like, come on, man. Like, I just, I'm still upset about it. If you wanna see what we're talking about, it is still live on Instagram because for some reason Facebook who loves to moderate things, didn't take it down. So apparently we're Facebook, okay, Facebook, Instagram. Okay. But, uh, when it comes to a, uh, when it comes to TikTok, apparently we were way off base. So maybe we can say something super crazy on this one that'll get us, uh, viral, but not in a, uh, not get taken down. Yeah, that'd be great. But yeah, that was going good. I mean, and that's the, that's something we'd like to do more of. And we are constantly talking about ways that we're gonna improve on the, uh, the video side of things we're, we have so many ideas in the works that we're constantly talking about when we get here and talk with, uh, with Burrell and with Nikki t about the videos that we want to do and the future of what this is gonna turn into.
Speaker 2 00:03:30 And now that our vacations are over, uh, now it's work time. Now it's work time. I mean, you even called me today on the way back home and we're talking about just different ideas and different, it's all work. No play now. Yeah. We've, I mean, we've got a big, me and Dawson, we live in the same house, so we're about to have to move my, uh, my fiance now. Uh, weird saying that still. Uh, she's got a new job out in the Fairview area, so we're about to be moving. So it's, life is always hectic, and somehow we still find a way to have these regular Monday morning podcast meetings. It is. So I'm proud of us for that. So, yeah. Uh, catching up from last week, I had a great vacation. Spent seven days at the beach, got to hang out, uh, girlfriend Lindsay for, uh, yeah, a whole week.
Speaker 2 00:04:11 Mom and sister came down, ate a bunch of seafood, drank a bunch of beers, sat on the beach, didn't get sunburned, couldn't ask for a better time. Got, uh, rear ended on the way home by some Auburn old mask for a better time. Auburn, uh, band kids. Yeah. So that was great. Uh, I, I just remember <laugh> Bull. Chevrolet's got a Earnhardt. We were talking earlier, it looks like Earnhardt got a hold of me at Bristol. Like I was Terry Lebane or something. Yeah, he rattled your cage a little bit. Now he did rattle my cage. I just, I will never forget seeing, I texted Dawson, um, in a way I, Rick Allen, you too, because I was texting, uh, texting Dawson about the Xfinity Race when that happened. I texted you, Hey, I've got these guys picked out and they're running pretty good. Boom, 30 seconds later in our group chat with all of our buddies.
Speaker 2 00:05:00 We call that no hits. If we ever refer to no hits. We're, we're, we're referring to this group chat that we've got going on with nine of our buddies out there in Nashville that we've met over the years. We've had this going on forever. We have hats and everything. It's a whole thing. But I see in there, you say, I just got rear-ended in the middle of nowhere, Alabama, and I wasn't even in Alabama's the best part. Oh, I keep saying Alabama, because you got me so screwed up on that. And you screwed your own intro. No. Up on that. That's what I'm saying. It's so, I totally, I told I was in Alabama and I was not. I was You're in Florida. Goodness. I And you were talking about Auburn. I'm just all confused. No, I just, I thought you did it on purpose.
Speaker 2 00:05:38 No, total, total accident. I was in Alabama. I was, damn, see I got myself messed up. I was in Florida, told the people I was in Alabama. So I was just flustered, got the shit knocked out on me. But it is what it is. Uh, can't do nothing about it now. Nope. So I'm just gonna quit being pissed off. But all in all, great weekend, great week. We were off with Travis Trip, obviously got some great shows coming up this week. We're on the road a bunch in the next 14 days. I think we're at like seven or eight you just said. Yeah. Seven days, seven show days in the next 14 days. But of course, getting back all the way from, we gotta get all the way from New York back to home, then over to somewhere in Indiana, then back to Wbo or something.
Speaker 2 00:06:16 And I don't even know where we go after the Wabash date. It's, which is on a rent on Tuesday. It's all south. We're in Jackson, Tennessee. Biloxi, Mississippi, and somewhere in Louisiana. The Cajun Festival or something. Dang. I'm the one over here. Supposed to be advancing shows and helping out with the foreground. I have no idea where we're even going. Yeah. So we're you're any of those plays a pa two PA shows? I'm not sure. Jim TH's one of Jim th we've been there before. Vince Laham. Yeah. I wanna say it was Benham, but with a lisp. So we're all in those spots this week. Those will be fun. Yeah. And then, yeah, come back, play a random show Tuesday and we'll get to watch the All-Star Race Sunday. It's gonna, I'm looking forward to that. I am for sure. I haven't been, I say this every week, but I I, I get stoked every week.
Speaker 2 00:06:59 But man, north Wilkesboro, I'm pumped. I mean, I can't, I I'm stoked. I mean, yeah, we, I don't even bother. I don't even mind talking about it now let's talk about it. We were gonna throw this later on in, into the, into the episode, but Absolutely. I mean, north Wilkesboro is, it's not necessarily NASCAR Mecca. We're not going home by any means, but it's resurrecting something that, I don't know, dude, we're going home in a, in a way yes. NASCAR's going home in a way. Yes. I mean, we're resurrecting something that was great from, I mean, heck, you said that it was the year you were born that they shut this down. Yeah, they quit racing. The last race at North Wilkesboro was in 1996. Yeah. And it just feels good. It's like on, on some hands. We just got done, um, talking about how much, we are not looking forward to the change that's coming with the Chicago Street race, but here we are just a week later talking about how excited we are Yes.
Speaker 2 00:07:59 About a change that is coming to North Wilkesboro. And it's almost like you have two sides of the same coin here. We want to see some sort of change in nascar. When I first got into it in 2017, it was like everyone talked about how it used to be so great. And in 2017 we race at nothing but mile and a half, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you got to ex that was where, uh, yeah. Everybody Truex was dominated then because of all that. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you just had the, they figured it out. That was the, that was the project that they needed to work on and the place that they needed to be good at. So they were, and that's what got them a championship that year. But it's almost like we've had so much of that and it was so oversaturated and everyone was just asking for change.
Speaker 2 00:08:40 And you had some people over here, and I might count myself among this group was, man, we need more road courses and more fun, like interesting things that aren't just the same thing every week. And part of that was my naivete and coming into NASCAR so late naivete. Yeah. And on the other side, you had a lot of folks that kind of shared your opinion of, we used to be so great and we have all these short tracks we're not using anymore. We have all this stuff that we used to do and we're trying to do too much and go too far. Yeah, for sure. It's wild to see how that is boiled down to what we have now. We're at one hand we're pissed off about it because we're getting a road course, but it's a street course. We don't like that. No one's pumped about that.
Speaker 2 00:09:20 Nobody is pumped at all. And we've added other road courses that have been a lot of fun and really enjoyable. Maybe we've got a little far in that direction, but then also we're getting these old school NASCAR tracks back. So we're seeing both totally of those avenues explored right in front of us as we speak. And I'm so excited to see it. Cause I've never seen a race at North Wilkesboro. Neither have I. Neither of a lot of people that, well, when I say that, I mean like, I've never even watched an old race. Oh, really? So I've not seen track. I've ne I've not seen the product that that track produces before. Ever. Even in its older state. Yeah. The straightaways are like, not even, they're like go downhill and uphill and shit. Really? Yeah. It's interesting. See, I was reading a little bit before we got started today, so I kind of understood a little bit more about it.
Speaker 2 00:10:05 And I thought I saw something that said to that effect that when they first were building it, they only had something around like $1,500. And of course this is in the forties, maybe a little earlier, but they ran outta money and we were having to build it with caddy Wampus Straightaways. I didn't know that that was a feature that was still stuck in like, oh, it's still, there's still there. Change. Yeah. So we, like I talked about it last week. I feel like NASCAR has split 50 50. Every decision is half the people are like, hell yeah. Half the people are like, hell no. There's been a couple things here and there recently that I've brought up where it's like, wow, everybody's on board with this or everybody hates this. Last week I talked about everybody hates the Chicago Street course idea, but by God everybody loves the North Wilkesboro all star race idea.
Speaker 2 00:10:54 I 1000 million percent think there will be a points paying race at that racetrack, if not next year, soon. I mean, there's just no way that there's not. Would you put an asterisks on that? What do you mean? What We haven't seen how this race is gonna work yet. Would you put an asterisk on that saying that if it works, well, I don't know. I think it's gonna work. Well, this track's gonna be the oldest, oldest piece of pavement NASCARs raced on, and I couldn't tell you how long mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So we're gonna go out here with these tires and it's gonna be just grind 'em off with a cheese grater. And we've seen when you grind 'em off these tires off with a cheese grater, the racing becomes spectacular. Yes And no. I would say that that is, you are generally correct. Uh, the only, the only reason I say maybe no is because of what we just saw yesterday.
Speaker 2 00:11:40 Uh, wasn't as So you're a big hater on the race. I like, I like this. Yeah. Well, and of course we'll get into that a little bit more here in a minute, but maybe, maybe you should talk about Darlington and get off North. Well Spur. No, I, I like where we're at honestly. We're, we're, we've got so much to talk, talk about with North Wilkesboro and I'm so exci it's the All-Star Race weekend. We can kind of relax a little bit what happens. This race doesn't matter as much. Still button like hell on it for sure. Oh yeah. I, I have no more money. I have to put more money in my draftings account. Caleb lost every single bet he made this week. Hell yeah. Follow me for more betting and buy some tips. <laugh>. It's, it was a great time, man. I have Rick Allen myself a couple times, so, but let's bring this up though.
Speaker 2 00:12:14 You made an accidental bet for me. Yes, I did. I was in a not legal betting state. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> is, I don't know if this is illegal to do or save, but I'm sure it's not fun. But, uh, either way, I, I put a bet down <laugh> in my app for Dawson for me. Yes. And put the wrong one down. You asked me to put down Willie B for the truck series. Yes. And, and I was just scrolling through all of it. And I picked Cup Series on accident just flying through it because I was watching a race. I was not fully sober by any means. So I was just scrolling. I was like, oh yeah, put that Willie be $5, boom, let's go Total accident. And I even texted him back, said, sorry Bud, looks like you're uh, looks like you're voting for Willie be today.
Speaker 2 00:13:00 But see Willie be Willie B does, well obviously one, but he does well at Darlington. So it wasn't like you put me on some kind of something. I wasn't like, okay. Hell yeah. Like, I'll, I'll take, I'll take Willie be at Darlington. Like I'm not mad about that at all. You weren't mad about it, weren't planning on it, and it turned out to be the best pet it were. Yeah. <laugh>, it was the, it was the only one you got. And people were, uh, people posted, like DraftKings made a post, I guess like a lot of the sports book places posted on Twitter. It's like, who all picked up Willie B today on nine 50 plus nine 50 plus nine 50? You know, it's like, yeah. Most of the time, I've said this before, most of the time these guys that win these races, they're only favored at they get it.
Speaker 2 00:13:38 Right. They do. I'll give it to 'em, they'll get it. Right. They're only favored at plus 500, plus five 50 plus 600, you know, in there. I, I feel like granted I'm a rookie better, but so far it's rare that you get a nine 50 plus guy to win. Right? Yeah. I mean, unless you're at like Dega or somewhere like that. But I'm super surprised that Willie B was nine 50 at a place he runs well at. Yeah, it's true. Um, I, I don't know if it has the same thing to do with what I was talking about with like just who you consider your favorite influences, who you're going to bet for. So Chase Elliott, no matter how poorly he does at certain types of tracks, if he was as like his mile and a half program, they always have said that it's his weakest program.
Speaker 2 00:14:26 Not, not saying he's terrible, they're not saying he can't win there, but it is the place where statistically he's going to underperform. But I guarantee you, you go to a mile and a half that people are very familiar with, like going to Texas and voting for or betting on Chase Elliot, you're gonna get him at worse odds than someone else popular to bet on him. That would also run equivalent to him. And it's because he's so popular. They know that if he wins out, a majority of the bets that they're going to get for winners are going to be paid out. Probably if he wins, they're paying out more than they're getting in for every other driver. So they have to offset those odds a little bit. Yeah. And I wonder if that's a little bit of the in, in a different way, a Chase Elliot effect, will he be maybe just as good, if not better than someone like a Chase Elliot or a Kyle Larson at a track, but because he is less known, less popular and I mean, let's face it, technically less able than those other two guys Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:15:20 That are on his same team. I could totally see him being up the spectrum of the, of the Odds Placement. I am surprised though, at plus nine 50. Me too. It also though, shout out Benjamin Bill. This is the second race I've got on him. Even though this one was accidental Phoenix when he got, when Reddick pushed him around the outside. Yeah. I got him for winning and then got Redig in the Old Floyd County pool. So like Reddick hit me twice, you know, like that's more than anybody else's. I've hit on, on a, as a winner. Absolutely. So far. So shout out Benjamin Bill. Heck yeah. Um, so all that to say, yeah, he we're definitely betting on North Wilkesboro even though we haven't seen a race there, don't know nothing about it. Whatever. Yeah. I don't care. We're gonna bet on it. I mean it's, and even going back a little bit to the history of getting North Wilkesboro back, it's so funny because when I got back, when back into racing, like I ever was in it before 2017 when I got into it, Dale jr's podcast was starting to really blow up.
Speaker 2 00:16:18 And so Dawson would listen to it a lot. And finally I got, I got to start to listening to it. And it's super funny to watch how the progress has come from Dale Jr. Wants to have North Wilkesboro on iRacing. He knows that that track's probably never coming back. And he's, he, he admits it. He just knows that it, the challenges are pretty, pretty steep to get something that is that dilapidated back to where it needs to be and just organizes an event. Anybody with a lawnmower, anybody with a weed eat or anybody with a little gallon of Roundup come out to the track and clear it out for us so we can scan it, scan for eye racing. Cuz they take a laser machine and they go over the whole track and they find every divot, every groove, every crack in the pavement, everything.
Speaker 2 00:17:05 They scan this whole track out. So that way when they create the track in iRacing, it has every detail of the track as accurately as that computer can generate it. So whenever the someone is racing on it, on that video game, they know, and I say video game loosely, I know it's a sim, they know that everything that they're doing has a modern equivalent to what the track looks like right now. And it's really neat. It's really cool to have seen that happen. But I think the turnout for that and how many people actually showed up to help out with that project and they realized their concrete or the asphalt wasn't as screwed up as they thought it was. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which was another big part of that. Yeah. They realized it was, it was reasonable. Yep. They looked at us like, this is cool, this is okay.
Speaker 2 00:17:51 And so then they have really put some money into it. I heard it costs like a 1.5 million, just put safer barriers around that thing. Yeah. I'm not talking about a big track. So whoever's in the safer barrier business, they're making some money they made. Um, have you seen the scoring pile on yet? Uh, no. I saw the vi I was gonna mention the video I saw about the safer barrier getting built. But go ahead. Well, the scoring pile line they have scanned it is a brand new, brand new pile line, but they scanned it to make it look like it's half lit up and like the bulbs are kind of messed up and all, but the bulbs are all working to make it look like that. That's incredible. They, so that you have that scoring pile on in the middle. They have the old, the last race was sponsored by like Tyson Chicken.
Speaker 2 00:18:32 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they redid the old, uh, handheld scoring board that they used to have back in the day. They left the finishing order from the last race on there. Right now the way it is say like redid it, but they're gonna have someone up there manually putting the slat, the slats in for the numbers and the laps and all that. That's amazing. So you have that and then they scanned, uh, the sign, the old NASCAR Winston Cup sign and the no North Wilkesboro sign, they scanned all that. So like when you come in, it's all gonna be the original stuff. That's all the Winston Cup. They even left that part on there. But they scanned that stuff and put it on the wall down at the front so it looks, it's brand new paint, but it looks old. They literally made it look old. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 00:19:14 But it's all new stuff like it. I'm telling you, more people are fired about this than going to fucking Chicago. I'm telling you right now, it's just people, I'm not trying to take NASCAR and take steps back, but there are some things where they should, and this is, they are doing a great job of bringing what NASCAR was and it's heyday right back to us modern fans now. And like guys like my dad, he was pumped up. He's like, I cannot wait to watch North Wilkesboro. You know what I mean? And my dad, he, he still, he watches every single race just like we do. But pumped up about watching this race Saturday, uh, Saturday and Sunday. There's a, you know, there's both, but like, they got late models. They got, uh, I think they're not running modifieds. We got late models, trucks, uh, the opens and the All-Star race all this week.
Speaker 2 00:20:06 It's gonna be awesome. I think all this starts on Tuesday. Mm. And 25,000 people, they can sell that many seats Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's six nights. I guarantee you there's 25,000 people in those seats every single night, man. Guaranteed. That's, and you know what, that's a testament to right there. And I've, I was not the biggest supporter back in the day of the whole Smith family. Uh, when I first kind of started learning about NASCAR a little bit, going to a couple tracks, I didn't, I did not realize what a vision that they have right now with Speedway Motorsports and everything that they're doing at the, uh, at the moment I'm drawing a Blake Marty Smith. Why am I drawing a blank right now? No, no, the the guy that's over it right now. Oh, his son. Yeah. Marcus. Marcus. Thank you.
Speaker 2 00:20:56 Sorry, I was drawing a hardcore blank. Um, Marcus Smith, I went and listened to the Dale Jr. Download the business business of Motor Sports. Yeah. Um, that Kelly does now. Yep. And it was only the second episode and he was the one that was on there talking and they were talking about the experience of going to a race more than the on track product. Cuz I think it's come down, I think they've understood that they can't control that on track product that is up to nascar. So when it comes to the paving, paving of the tracks, yes I can do a whole lot of stuff there, but that's not something you do every year. So once it's there, it's set in place, it's up to NASCAR now to give you a better product on the track. And one of my favorite quotes that Marcus has right now is we are in the entertainment business.
Speaker 2 00:21:42 People need to be entertained. And he talks about it all the time talking about what Six Flags does great. What Disney World and Disneyland do great in different places. They go to these, they, they had, um, times where their managers for different, um, racetracks would go to sporting events or two other racetracks or two other organizations to see what they were doing that they liked, what they didn't like. Coming up with new ideas and everything that you just told me about what they're doing with North Wilkesboro points to that they realize, okay, we're going back to an old track. We're bringing NASCAR back to its roots. We're doing all these things that we used to do back in the day. So let's do everything that we used to do back in the day. Let's take celebrate the Yeah. <laugh> that's gonna go back. Let's just take 'em out.
Speaker 2 00:22:29 I mean, screw it dude, we could, if you, if they took stages outta every race, they'd just wrap up a little present. Just give it right to us right there and just say, Hey, guess what? We have a green flag, we have a yellow flag, we got a red flag, we got a black flag, we got a checkered flag. You know what's missing out of here? The green, white checkered flag. Yeah. We don't need it anymore. Yeah man, I like all that to say we're pumped up about this week. Like I said, I don't think you're gonna find one person go to NASCAR Twitter. You're not gonna find one person that's not pumped up. So we're excited here at Ray's Rowdy Racing. If we weren't working one of our busiest weeks of the year, I'd almost guarantee we'd be there. I'd love to. Our drummer for Travis Trt, he's actually from born and raised in Wilke County.
Speaker 2 00:23:09 Yeah. His mama went to the open house this week. Old Josh Day. Josh day. Shout out Josh. His mama went to the uh, open house this week and he sent me, I sent him a picture. So this is something you probably don't know, the, the, the mayor of Wilts County is this guy. He's a, he's super tan, he's got a white beard, he's got a big beer belly and he wears like jean shorts. Dude like used to be like he was redneck beach sound. He was popular back then was at the last race. He was at the opening day thing. Oh that's cool. This dude's like known, I don't know his name, they call him the mayor, whatever, mayor of Wilts County, whatever. I don't know his name but they posted he was there. So I sent it to Josh and I was like the mayor, you know, with like all the big letters.
Speaker 2 00:23:55 He sent me like 15 pictures and he was like, since I know you actually give a shit, my mom went to the opening the open house thing tonight and they had late model guys there. They had cup guys there, they had all kind of people autograph sessions, all this stuff. And he sent me all kind of awesome pictures. That's awesome. From this weekend. So like man it gives me chill bumps. Almost everybody is pumped up. Yeah. As they should be. This is gonna be one of the coolest weekends of NASCAR in a while. And you know what I also love, they didn't absolutely screw up the format this year for the first time in. It's pretty normal three years. Do you know why? Do you know why they didn't screw it up? Because I can't, uh, my kindergarten level understanding of what was going on the last two years, I don't even, I couldn't tell you what the hell was gonna come back because it was so hard to freaking understand when they're inverting the field and then what's invert the top 10 and the back half and let's take Cody Ware, let's put him in the front of the field just to see what happens.
Speaker 2 00:24:55 And then I'm gonna have one car going backwards around the track and if you can beat him on the first lap, you get an extra two. I don't even know what was going on. So, but I'm saying the man so frustrated came up that helped come up with the format was Dale Jr. Oh that makes so much sense. So he's the mastermind behind how this is set up this year and the pit crew challenge, which I know you weren't around for that, but the pit crew challenge was a huge thing back in the day. And just all the things they're doing, they're doing a, they're doing a great job. Yeah. They're doing a great job. So to all of our uneducated NASCAR fans like myself, the format for the All-Star race can get confusing. It's not so much this year, last year, I mean Ryan Blaney won it.
Speaker 2 00:25:35 I have no idea how well he didn't have his wind net up so Well that was part of it. He almost didn't win it but um, yeah it was so confused with, so confusing with the way they inverted the field and did all this stuff. It was like six different steps of how to get to the front and the best thing you could do was just hope you were in front at the end. Cuz there's no planning this year a lot simpler. Like Dawson said, we have the pit crew challenge that determines the lineup for the race based off of only the speed of your four hour pit stop. Which I think is a really cool idea. Like you said that used to be a thing. I've not seen it other than the uh, Coke 600 qualifying where they'd come screaming down pit road. No you you that's it's always been all star what not Coke 600.
Speaker 2 00:26:17 This is why I get so dang confused with Daytona Week and uh, the Coke 600 Week were something that used to be so much more complicated and nowadays it's not as much anymore and it's now the all star race. It's comp it always gets so screwed up. For me. All-Star race qualifying has always been where you make a lap come in and pit and make another lap. That's always been all-star qualifying. Yep. See and that's the thing is when I got into it, that was all changing. So that part that was still there and then all of a sudden we're going to different tracks. I have consistently been confused about Speed Weeks and All Star Race and Coke 600 and Qualifyings and everything. Since I've been a fan, I will always still be confused because I'm about as smart as a second grader when it comes to all this stuff.
Speaker 2 00:27:02 It just, it loses me. And that's one of your new fan problems everybody likes to talk about. It's what it's as a new I fan, I can still a lot somewhere back. I am confused at times over this stuff and that's why I'm going over it with people because I am slowly coming to understand it myself as we go into this week. But goodness. So yeah, all that to say we're pumped up about Nors, Wilkesboro North Wilkesboro. Let's uh, uh, you wanna talk about Darlington the rest of that format there? Um, if you're watching at home, uh, cuz I specifically have my mom ask me to explain some stuff to her. So I'm gonna do this for my mom for a late Mother's Day gift. There you go. I'm gonna go over this format so they can understand what's going on. So you got the heat races that come in first.
Speaker 2 00:27:44 Um, so not everybody qualifies to be in the All-Star race. It's like past all-star race winners, past champions, few other qualifications that get you in there. So anybody that doesn't automatically qualify, you have 60 laps each for heat races. You go out and you race 'em, uh, straight up, whoever wins that, it automatically advances into your All-Star event at the end of the day. It's kinda like an old school Saturday at a dirt track. You have all these heat races, you have qualifying, then heat races, then you have the actual feature. I enjoy the heck out of that. That is a Dale Jr. But you have your guys that are already locked in. Yeah. Yeah. You do have your guys that are already locked in. Yeah. But so you're, you're racing these heat races are awesome. Yeah. Line you up for the All-star event. Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:28:28 Then you come around to the actual event once everybody's locked in. You got the a hundred race, um, you've got a 200 race, the lap, 200 lap lap open and the hundred lap open. See there's so many steps and pieces man. Look, see all that's still the same. You're gonna have the heat races. That's just gonna determine that's just the guys that are already locked in. Mm-hmm <affirmative> your heat racing mean the guys that are already locked in for the big race Saturday you're open is all the guys that aren't locked in. They're racing to get in. I don't know what the number is, but it used to be like the top five went, this is why we need Dawson around on this podcast right here. Yes. So the top five go, I don't know if that's this way this year, whatever, but top five go and then your one fan vote.
Speaker 2 00:29:07 All that's still the same. That's, they've really have went back to what it used to be in like the heyday of like oh six. And you can understand why I'm confused to all the fans sitting at home. Yeah. This is cha this what he just said is so normal to him because it was there for decades and it didn't change. Yeah. All of a sudden all that's gonna be the, it's been different for the last few years. Yeah. But this year is just completely back to normal. Which is thank that that goes back to what we're talking about. I it has been so difficult as someone who is knows a lot about the sport. Like you've taught me so much in trying to understand all this different stuff and I finally get to a point where I feel like I understand what's going on and every year that kind of stuff changes constantly.
Speaker 2 00:29:51 And you wanna talk about a absolutely confusing the hell out of a fan. They've been doing it and like you said, we're going back to something that's somewhat normal. Yeah. And thank goodness for that because if it's the same every year, then I can finally get my head around it. But, oh man. Yeah. This year's gonna be, this stuff just been has, it's just screwed me up since day one as an NASCAR fan. And I hope, I hope, I hope we can keep this stuff around where it's just the same every year. Let's stop switching it up like crazy. Let's, I'm done with my tirade on nascar. Confusing me, but it gets old sometimes. Yeah. So I'm just ready for it to be back to normal again and we're finally getting it. So light Dawson said great weekend coming up. We can finally stop talking about it.
Speaker 2 00:30:35 We can move on from North Wilkesboro. I'm pumped up. You're pumped up. I'm pumped. Everybody should be pumped up. That was gonna be the whole last half our podcast when we made it the first half. We're so pumped up. Yes. It'll be alright. So I guess we should talk about, we'll talk about last week, yesterday. I enjoyed darlings and Caleb wasn't that big a fan. I enjoyed it. I mean they're, the cautions fell in a weird way at the beginning. It, it was hard to pass harder than normal. Uh, they said that lap times did not fall off as much as they have in the past, which that's your, that's the issue right there. If we could have had a tire a little bit more fall off, I think would've been in good shape. I don't know if I would call that the only issue.
Speaker 2 00:31:11 But yes, that was a contributing factor. I definitely think that's one of the main factors cuz the more that time falls off, the more passing and such we will have mm-hmm. <affirmative>, everybody had to run right up against the wall. Um, you could, you did not have any of that Kevin Harvick getting down there in that low line stuff like he has done in the past. Uh, Denny brought that up on his podcast. Yeah. Until like, like you said, super late in the run. You could start to see some guys make some moves down there. Yeah. But all in all, I enjoyed it. I was, I I I watched it from lap to laugh. I was enjoyed it. I enjoyed Carl Leverage being back in the booth. That was awesome. Really enjoyed that. Um, Kyle and Richard Petty being in the booth. That's cool. Bill being in the booth.
Speaker 2 00:31:53 That's cool. Bill was in there last year for the final stage. Um, should we, where should we start with the, I I think we should actual race part. I think we should start with the reasons why me and you disagree so much on this race. Because I really, because you just got back about 20 minutes. We, we actually met in the parking lot for the first time in like 10 days. Yep. So I haven't heard what, what is it about this race that you enjoyed so much? And I will get onto what I didn't like. They're just like, I didn't just sit there and absolutely hate it. Like I, I it might because it's Darlington, I don't know. But like, there were, there, there are opportunities at Darlington with traffic and at least the tire where you had to like, make it interesting. I know it took a while to get there, but it happened.
Speaker 2 00:32:40 I mean we had a wreck for the damn Was that stage one or two for the lead? Uh, that which, which testing you talking about? Truex. Oh that was in, that was for the stage one win. Either way. Any nowhere else. Stage one. No, that was the stage two win. I'm sorry because Truex ended up getting flown, thrown back and he won. Yeah, he won, he won the first stage and then coming for the lead dominated, dominated the first stage. Tried to make a big dive bomb move into three, didn't exactly clear himself got spun out that was coming to the win for stage two. Yeah. And still ended up getting like 10th or something at the stage, whatever. It didn't, he didn't get super wrecked till the very end. But yeah, anywhere else, if he does that at Charlotte next week or not next week, but the Coke 600, he's gonna run away with it at Darlington.
Speaker 2 00:33:24 You don't get a chance to run away with it. That's what I like about Darlington. That's what I liked about that race. Hmm. Interesting. I just, man, I just had such a hard time with this race. I, I won't say I hated it by any means. I didn't hate it. This wasn't like, there was nothing going on. It had great moments just like that. I actually woke Allison up from her nap when that happened because she's a true X fan. And I was like, oh my God, they wrecked coming to the line. I, and so there was moments that got me fired up. The end of the race was shaping up to be something great and it turned out, I mean it had to do a lot with restarts, but it ended up being pretty good itself. Don't get me wrong, this race had its moments, but those are the two moments for me.
Speaker 2 00:34:08 Everything else in between, if you weren't Kyle Larson or if you weren't uh, Chastain the 19 car, you weren't passing people in the eight car, you weren't passing people at all. There was in the first, well I can't remember if it was in the first or second stage. Kyle bus ended up being one of the fastest cars on the track. He possibly could have won that race if he, I think those four we just named like those, those are your top guys. Those were your top guys. You and Willie B. Willie B could make passes. Oh. I mean he proved it obviously. And Chase brought up in his post race thing, he was like, it's crazy to me how like my teammates, like they could come back there in 20th with me and they could, you know, rattle their way through the field. But then he was like, I couldn't, I I the, you know, it just, he just couldn't the car or whatever.
Speaker 2 00:34:55 Yeah. He just, like his car wasn't not allowing him to pass. And that's what I was seeing because even Kyle Bus got stuck behind Keslowski at the beginning of this race and you could tell Kyle is faster than Kaz. You can tell just watching them and the way they were raised and they ended up side by side multiple times. Kyle just eventually just falls in line and just says, screw it. I'm just gonna ride behind the guy. Cuz I mean at least we're in the top 10. But it was like, it, it was so impossible that cars that were visually faster than the car in front of them couldn't do anything. And I find that to be so frustrating as a fan watching it, watching your drivers. Like, I mean I even saw Blaney, he was probably, I mean he rodee in 1230 pulled the worst slider of all time.
Speaker 2 00:35:39 They said on Twitter, ah, that is not true. Because Sheldon Creed pulled a better one the day before and then Ross Chastain 20 minutes after that was not the worst slider of all time. <laugh> could not even get close to qualifying. It was, it was just so many memes on Twitter. I loved it. I almost sent you a few. Dang. Just riling it up. Yeah, actually I think they said worst slider of all time before the Chastain deal and all that happened. Yeah, but it was just talking about in the middle of the race when he hit Redick, like doored him or whatever. You know why I think it happened? I think it was because Blaney was so pissed off as the, as I was not for him specifically, but for the whole field. Blaney wasn't the only one who pissed off it Ready. You couldn't freaking pass.
Speaker 2 00:36:16 Yeah. You couldn't do anything. You could dive down to the inside and try your damnedest to get somewhere and it was like you just ran into a wall down there. Yeah. And the outside would just come back around. Yeah. That is the, all that, all that said, I will admit. Yes. Eventually in a late, late in a tire run and we're talking 40 plus laps into a tire run. Sometimes you could finally get some action on track, which was cool to see. But man, I was so tired of watching them run in circles with each other. By the time it got there it was, it was too late for me. I just didn't care anymore for that. Kinda was checked out kind of was, yeah. <laugh>. But I mean, like you said, it's, it's hard to hate Darlington because I do like the racetrack and it's produced a lot of really good racing over the years.
Speaker 2 00:37:06 They just go back and watch highlight reels. I mean I've got a t-shirt of 2020 whenever they first went back there and Chase got wrecked out by Kyle Bus. I've got the t-shirt from that. Yeah. There's great moments on a straight up bad move by the eight car or a 18 car. Sorry. It's true. And all that is is just a product of we're still figuring this track out with this new car and so I'm not sitting here being the apocalyptic, this track sucks now. This next gen car isn't gonna work there. I'm far from that. I just, just thought tire, I'm still on the tire train. Yeah, I mean it, it's part, the part of it is the tire give give wasn't give 200 more horsepower. Get 'em to seven 50, which they say not that big. See that's not a tire problem. That is engine problem tire.
Speaker 2 00:37:45 And where we would have, we would've had a million times even better race than what we had. I think Denny puts it best. There's so many different issues that you can't point to one of them and say that that's the one thing that you could change. Cuz you change that one thing and all of a sudden you have something else that makes up for it. It's a, there's a lot of pieces and parts and I know this stuff takes a while and we're coming off one of the best races I've ever seen at Kansas. So it's hard for me. I I'm, I'm only making a big deal about it because it's this week after next week I'll be completely over it. But Darlington to me failed to live up to my expectations. I really thought we were gonna see a lot more side by side, a lot more passing.
Speaker 2 00:38:22 It just did it. It didn't happen. And I was disappointed by that. And prob on one hand I think it was my expectations going in. On the other hand, I think it was the result coming out. It was a little bit of both. And the only reason I really can't make a huge do about it is because it's Darlington and it was the throwback weekend. Other than that I take or leave that race. It was a very lackluster race in my opinion. I just didn't see a whole lot of what I would love to have seen in a race. I do enjoy the fact that there was so much stuff that went on at the end. I know you hate the fact that you saw so much stuff go down on the end, but we'll get to that here in just a second. I feel like you're about bring it up.
Speaker 2 00:39:00 I enjoy, I I enjoy the drama. I will always have, always will enjoy the drama of anything really. Like every time there's drama in a race of any sort, I'm all in 1000%. I just hate when it has to come at the cost of my favorite drivers sometimes. Yeah. And it has in the last like four of the last five weeks, the one in the five man, they just can't get apart from each other. They can't. That's what happens when yet two cars that run the same. Just the good part about it is the two cars that run the same are running up front. They do. Which is cool. Chastain could possibly be a four time winner, three to four time winner this year if he did not just piss everybody off and just make some of the wildest moves you've ever seen. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:39:54 Yeah. It is what it is. I mean, you hard to argue that hard. It's, it is what it's it's what, it's hard to argue that point. And, and I'm not, I'm not shitting on Chastain cuz Chastain gives all of us the drama, all of us something to talk about. But I cannot remember in a ever in a, not, I'm not gonna say ever, but when's the last time that every single week, it's the same guy with just someone else. Denny said this morning, he was like, is it possible for Chastain to race one week without ruffling somebody feathers? And they rattled off all this stuff. He has been in some sort of a confrontation or pissed someone off every single race this year. Yep. In some way, shape or form. And it's just like, holy shit dude. He got Kyle Bush and him got into a situation with the Pace card.
Speaker 2 00:40:45 They were saying he beat the Pace car on Pit Road at one point. He jammed the brakes on and Kyle hit him. Kyle's just just dogging him out. I can't even say the words that he said on this podcast that he was calling him on his radio <laugh>. I'm just like, Jesus Christ. And then, you know, Chastain's back and just like whatever, you know, saying the same stuff about Kyle Bush and I don't know, I I just, it just, it would be different and he would be, if he won, if he would, would win those like three to four races that I was talking about this year. I don't, the Star Power Chastain would have would be astronomical if he also put it in Victory Lane is in when he caused as many problems as he did, he, it would be astronomical. But he puts himself in such bad positions that he doesn't wind up in Victory Lane.
Speaker 2 00:41:37 Yeah, I can, I don't really know where I was going all day, but like that, that's what, that's that's what it is. Like he, if he just, if if he could, I know it didn't end up completely screwing him, but if that race Dover would've ran Green Chas or after he on Lap 70 Rex a Rick Ware car into Larson Larson, you know, messes with him later on in the race. And I know there was a caution that he ended up getting back up to Truex and lap traffic and all that. But without him, without, if he doesn't wreck him at the beginning of that race, Larson doesn't mess with him later. It's another example. It happens to Chastain all the time. He, Rick Hendrick said it yesterday, old boys gonna have a hard time winning a championship when the whole field hates you. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they're, they don't ever, they're never, they're, no one is letting Ross Chastain just slide by. They're gonna race his ass off no matter what. And because Ross Chastain's gonna race their as his their ass off as well. But like Ross is gonna go into lap 70 and wreck a lap car and just not give a fuck.
Speaker 2 00:42:46 But he doesn't say afterwards, he doesn't say, I don't give a fuck. He's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I I gotta go after I go to skip Barber racing this week, I'm gonna go over to Rick Ware's shop and just talk to him. You know, I gotta work that out. It's like, no, fuck that. Say fuck y'all. I'm wrecking all y'all. I I was, it'd be a lot cooler if he just said, fuck y'all, I'm wrecking all y'all, it'd be a lot cooler. It would be a lot cooler. But he don't, he gotta play Oh. Name a single driver other than Kyle Bus and Joey Logano. That would though. And I'm not saying that I'm excluding them because there's no one in nascar. No, I'm saying I'm only saying this because he does it all the time. Just lean into it, dude. No, I, that's what I'm getting to is there's a reason that you're Kevin Harvick's.
Speaker 2 00:43:25 You're Joey Logano is you're Kyle Bus. These are all guys I'm ta I'm naming that started driving when there wasn't a one in the date. Yeah, there was. They were, they were driving way back there in the oh eights and the oh seven s and some of 'em further back all the way up down to oh one or oh one. Yeah. With Har you've got these guys that have been around forever and you know why? It's because they capitalized on that star power and they won races and they did all these things and you are exactly right. They to this day will give their honest, true opinion on interviews. I wonder if it's a a partly a product of media training and the way that NASCAR views you saying anything anymore that's pro that I think that plays a part into it. I'm not sure it saying does.
Speaker 2 00:44:08 I'm not saying that I want him to keep doing it. I'm saying I wish he would come out there and say some stuff like that. If he did, it would fire people up. Dude. But you know what tells me fucked up? You know what tells me he does have that fire in him to like back it up is that whole thing we talked about last week with the Grason fight. He waits until you poke him, but he is not going to take it when you do. Yeah. And that is what, that's what tells me he's got it in him. I haven't heard him say it. I haven't heard him do it other than the fight last week. And he didn't provoke that. He's out there doing what he's going to do and he doesn't change and he learns a i, I know he's learning a little bit every time one of these little incidents happens, but he still goes out.
Speaker 2 00:44:51 He's not, you know, who we gave a whole lot of hell to for bowing down to other people's opinions about the way that they race and changing the way that they race. You remember Ty Gibbs last year all of a sudden causes all this controversy and immediately backs off of everything and Yeah. He's still does that. He's another one that wants to apologize every single time. Yeah. But he also changed the way he raced on and compared track up to Jesus and whatever he's trying to do. It's just like he, he went out there on the track and changed the way he was driving. He let it get to him so bad. And I don't want Ross to change the way he drives. That's exactly what I'm saying is Ross hasn't, he's had all this hate coming since Gateway last year and it's still happening now and he is still doing it.
Speaker 2 00:45:33 Yeah. So he doesn't give a fuck. He's got, he's got all the pieces and parts. The only thing he is left to do for me is like you said, win a race and get out there on the microphone and just tell it like it freaking is. Yeah. I know that he's, I feel like he's somewhat trying to people please when he gets in these interviews. Yeah. He's trying to make everybody feel better. I hate that that's, that's the modern generation for you. I mean we're all a little bit more guilty of it than our predecessors. Don't get me wrong. That is a general part of what it is to be in America right now is there's a lot more apologies and a lot more this and that. I'm not, I'm not trying to make a moral argument whether it's right or whether it's wrong. It just is.
Speaker 2 00:46:11 The fact that is more prevalent when people are giving interviews than it used to be. And here you are, you have it very put out in front of you. There was not a whole lot of people back in the day that what to give that interview and say the same things Ross does. And I think the world would be a little bit better of a place if Ross Chastain Yeah. Would get up there and said, yeah, I wrecked him. So what? Yeah, it is what it is. At least whenever I wreck people, I'm out in the top five and I'm doing things in the top five, I'm doing top five things and that was only reason somebody gets receded is because they let me catch up to him. You know what, you know what I'm, I think about this. They, they, they will play Ross Chastain stuff he does on the track, on commercials and all this stuff forever.
Speaker 2 00:46:51 Yeah. But they're never gonna play anything he says cuz he doesn't say anything wrong. Yeah. You know who they play all the time. What he did on the track and what he said on camera. Tony Stewart. Yeah. Just like at Fontana when he goes over to Logano, he is physically on his way, semi jogging and Steve Burns asked him what he thinks. He's like, I'm about to bust his ass. I'm about to bust as his damn way over there to fight Joey Logano. Yeah. You know what? Still gets played all over fucking TV, that clip. Oh yeah. I wish not that Chastain's not going to, he doesn't, he hasn't went and fought anyone yet. I am just saying last year at Darlington, the 22 gets out of his car and he is like, hell yeah. I bumped him. I'm giving him back what he gave me two corners ago and he door slammed me and people with people respect Joey Logan for that.
Speaker 2 00:47:37 I wanna say somebody even brought that up on the broadcast yesterday, or maybe it was Dale Jarret. I listened to some things, but it's like he doesn't give a damn. He's like, yeah, I'm aggressive if I got a chance to get to your bumper. Sorry. I always wish Ross Chastain would say that it would be so much more swag to it if Ross should just be like, screw it man. Yeah. Lean into it. No, I agree completely. I'm not asking him to go up and fight people if that's not the who he is. Yeah. I don't, I'm not asking him to, I'm not asking him to sit there and make threats to other people about the way that they race and what he's going to do to them on the, on the next lap. All I'm asking for is honesty. Like Exactly. And maybe that's the thing, maybe we are wrong.
Speaker 2 00:48:16 Maybe that is genuinely who Ross is as a person, is someone who was gonna go out there and race his race's, tail off, then come back in the interview and he's just a lot quieter. I mean, I, I think a lot of people give him that, what you just did, did you listen to him? That little aw thing. Like I, to be honest, like it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers everybody else the way he comes in and apologizes for things because if he's gonna go make it right, and he actually does do that. He's giving you that honesty that you're asking for. He's saying, I do feel bad about it. I am gonna go over there and make it right. And honestly we don't have enough of that going on nowadays either are people saying like, you know what? I screwed up and I'm gonna take ownership of it and I'm gonna go make it Right.
Speaker 2 00:48:57 That is a true southern blessing right there whenever you get that outta somebody. And if that's genuinely who Ross is, then maybe we're wrong for asking for more out of him. Maybe we're looking at the wrong guy to be the superstar of the sport. But if he's, he's given you. But if he could go out there and give those hardcore answers and, and win some races and win some race and win some races, then it's been over a year now since he's won race. You are over a year. The dude gets talked about more than anybody in the sport and he hasn't won a race in over a year. So props to you on that. That's pretty badass. Yeah, because most people that don't win a race in over a year, they don't get, they don't get talked about that much. Um, but the Del Junior download the weekend after Dover, they opened it up by saying, well, I'm gonna go down to skip Barbara racing and then come back and talk to you.
Speaker 2 00:49:40 Well I'm gonna go down here and buy me a hamburger then I'm gonna get back and talk to you. I'm gonna go get they just, him and Mike Dell and Mike Davis went on and on and on. If you haven't heard it, I'm sure anybody that's listening to this would listen to the Del Jr download. But holy shit, it was hilarious. The little funny examples they were saying, you know about it, but I think, I think that's where their conversation went into off the top of their podcast. Yeah. Was just like, damn Ross just say Yeah, I went in there fucking 10 car leaks deeper than I have been every other lap and destroyed a car and destroyed another car that was also running third. Yeah. Say screw it. And he did it again this week. I, we haven't even said that. I don't even know if we've said that yet.
Speaker 2 00:50:21 We haven't. He did it again this week. They used the SMT data. Larry, Matt gets on there and first off, I'm a Larson fan, so whatever you can say what you want to me about this. Everybody's like, well he did the same thing to Larson before there was three restarts at the end of this race. The first one, the one car gives Larson such a hard time and puts him in the wall that Larson falls back to fourth. They ran a few laps, got enough laps, he got back up to second or third Larson did, they had another restart and Larson was there and gave him the business and put him up in the wall, whatever, but didn't wreck them. He gave him enough room. Just like Chastain said a week ago, I gave him just enough room for his card. That's what, that is what Larson did.
Speaker 2 00:51:08 Okay. Then the third restart, you got Chastain in, he's talking on the radio. It was denied. Gonna push me. Is the 24 gonna push me or me And the five, even Ross Chastain and Kyle Larson are playing a game of chess. Ross knows that the five is pissed and the one and and five knows that Larson is the five knows that Chastain is just Chastain Larson drives down to give him some space to not run on the wall. The SMT data. Larry Max says it, you know, who did not let off the gas the whole time. The one car just drives 'em straight into the wall and he wrecks himself on top of this whole deal. The deals are not comparable to me, and I've only seen a couple people bring up that they are, but they are not comparable at all. Ross just straight up didn't let off the gas.
Speaker 2 00:52:01 Denny Hammond said this morning, he's like, Ross gets one thing on his mind and that's all he thinks about. And in that moment it was full throttle and who knows what. I just want to know what was going through his head in that moment. Because you know what he didn't do is talk about it on the TV podcast. He's, he said giving it all I got, dude. Well he, uh, he even asked him about it. You got let off to even possibly make that corner. He had to let off and on the SMT data, he is 100% on the gas. And I, he knew he wasn't gonna make it. I just, I don't know if I, I don't know if I can say that there's no way that any race car driver, I don't care how pissed off you are, no nothing if you are up there for the lead that you're gonna intentionally wreck yourself to get back at somebody else.
Speaker 2 00:52:40 I don't think he was gonna, I don't think he was getting back at Larson. I'm saying just the way he, what he did of not letting off mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like that's that thing I'm talking about. Just, just doing it like, and not just giving the room of the like one lane. Yeah. And he just, he didn't have that, he didn't have a car length on Larson. Just, I mean, I just don't even know. I I will be the first one to say, I have no idea what in the world is, was he thinking? No clue. Like I don't, I don't know what was going through his mind in that moment, but it definitely was it something that happened so fast and so quickly that you couldn't eat? You were sitting there looking at it and you're just, I was scratching my head like, how did that even happen?
Speaker 2 00:53:24 Because I told, I texted my dad, I was like, he is going to wreck watch this. I was like, the one will go wreck them going on the corner. I was like, no chance they make it outta turn one and motherfucker if it didn't happen. Yeah. I mean that's one of those things, if you <laugh>, if that was on DraftKings, it'd be negative 400 Will Oh, Ross Chastain put someone else in the wall. Oh yeah. I was just like, I was like, man, I, you just knew, you knew it was gonna happen and it happened and then it, the biggest bandaid of it all was my fake, uh, accidental bet that you made me. Yeah, perfect. Couldn't have been better. You're, you're welcome. You better. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad I could, I'm glad I could send that money your way. Yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 00:54:03 Yeah, definitely no problem whatsoever. <laugh>. But anyway, yeah, we, I mean we could hash this over. I can't wait till next week so we can talk about what Ross Chastain did to, uh, ruin the new safer barrier they just installed. Ooh, I, hey, like I said, I am a, I am a Chastain fan. I'll back him up. Yeah, he's a farmer. I gotta stick with him. I will admit though, I have no idea what the hell he was thinking. I don't chastain it's couldn't tell you Chastain's my hack of the week. That's your hack of the week. That's my hack of the week. Ah, my sister Megan, shout out. I know she'll listen to this. She also, during the race, my family is also telling me who their opinions are on Hack of the Week and such. And I don't know if it's because of this podcast or because the race was so fun or what, but I sat last night at dinner with, uh, the whole family and we talked about NASCAR in that race the whole time.
Speaker 2 00:54:50 Hell yeah. Don't know if that has to do with anything podcast or not, but my mom, Megan, Lindsay, Wests, nana, everybody has an opinion on that race. Heck. And that's good. That's a good thing. That's great. I'll, I'll take that all day long. I'll probably disagree with everybody and still love every single second of it because that just is more people that are paying attention. Exactly. More people that are watching, more people that care. And I know it's not just your family too. Yeah. And I love you all too, by the way. I'll say hi on the podcast to, to Megan Brandy and the Bunch An Old West. Um, but man, that's just, it's phenomenal. You love to see that kind of stuff. That's what Chastain's bringing to the sport right now. If he could bring a win, a track house, it'd be even better.
Speaker 2 00:55:30 But right now Chastain is getting people to pay attention. So keep doing what he's doing. Yeah. I hope he doesn't change. I hope he won't change. Won't change either. I want him to piss somebody new off every week. Every week. He'll never win a championship. I want keep happen, but I hope it keeps happening. Hey, you never know. Even Denny's starting to say, man, he is starting to get on the soft side a little bit. He'll make friends eventually he'll find his little, he'll find his path. But I don't want him to ever change. I don't, don't think he will. And I love every second of it. Keep doing what you doing. I hope he keeps wrecking people. Like I said, I hate that it comes the expense of the five or the 12 at any point. Yeah. So you're bringing up him for the ear hack of the week.
Speaker 2 00:56:03 I've got my own, I'm throwing it back to the Xfinity series race because Sheldon Greed made the same move and his own little way made the same move. He caused a Dega style wreck in three and four at Darlington. Like how do you even do that? But it was on the wor you talked about the worst slide job in the world being Ryan Blaney. And I laugh at that because Noone was paying attention to the Xfinity race apparently because Sheldon Cree dives off in there in three and four, very obvious to anyone that knows anything. He was not completing the past. He was trying to make, he shoots down there to the inside on a dive bomb attempt. I can't even remember who it was. He was on the inside of the 20. He, he hit the 20 car. Oh it was the 20 car.
Speaker 2 00:56:52 And he gets down there dead even with him. I mean the bumpers line up and the spoilers line up. If that same, if you shove those two cars together, you wouldn't see any overlapping. They were in the same spot on the track side by side. And Sheldon Creed just never stops and goes all the way up until he hits the 20 end of the wall and causes the biggest wreck in expend series history off of a super speedway since 2019. What? How do you do that dude? Like that is unbelievable. He admitted on Twitter as a bonehead movie and he was just like, was it was dumb and thank you for admitting it. Sheldon Creed. Yeah, I bet Marcus Limonis has got $10,000 for you right now. He'd love for you to have to fix that race car up here. Speaking, speaking of Sheldon Creed, I'll roll that off into this.
Speaker 2 00:57:36 This week was throwback week. Some people hate it, some people love it. Some people will say it's ran its course. I do enjoy seeing a lot of these throwbacks, especially if it's something that resonates with me from being a kid. The RCR cars were my vote for best throwbacks. Nice. They were the two car, they were both har throwbacks but that AC Delco car Yeah. Was ran by a lot of cars, a lot of different drivers. The two AC Delco car and then, you know, junior ran the three, that thing looked awesome before it got destroyed in that wreck and the hood was off and the fenders were everywhere. And then the 21 car was a throwback to uh, I can't remember what Harvard car, but also a Harvard throwback and I will throw another one out there. The oh two Blaine Perkins ran a throwback to the payday, uh, Kevin Har Carr and what I liked about all those cars, they did the paint job and everything.
Speaker 2 00:58:30 Exactly right. I love that the Xfinity numbers are still in the door. It makes the throwback just look better to me altogether. So those are my, those are my, I'll take trading paint trade. Yeah, I'll take my trading paint for the Kevin Harvick throwbacks Heck ya. And I am pumped about that 29 throwback that we're gonna have at North Wilkesboro, north Wilkesboro this weekend. Oh, for sure. Well, I mean that's gonna be the trading paint next week. Yeah. So we can just save it for them. Yeah, buddy. Um, I will be the first one to say that there were some cool paint schemes out there on the hole. I was a little disappointed this year. I thought there'd be more that I'd really love or more that they would talk about more. It seems like they'd put a little bit more of a emphasis on the guests in the booth than they did on the paint schemes on the track, which makes sense.
Speaker 2 00:59:13 There was some really cool names up there. Um, really my, my only trading paint that I can even think of that really got my attention that much is the Chase Elliot scheme. The number, throw it back to the nine Dodge from when his dad was driving with Ray Evernham. Man, that was, they they did great. I mean, it was a simple car. It wasn't like they had much to Yeah. Much to screw up. But the number made it. Yeah, the number was awesome. Having the number be like it was back in the day with, with the Evernham three, uh, little scallops on there. That was really cool. And it's a anytime that you can have like a father-son moment like that, having bill up there in the booth talking about the race and watching his son race a car that's designed after one of his own things.
Speaker 2 00:59:54 That's a cool moment. And he wore his Evernham shirt from he did that time, which I thought was cool. Yeah. I mean such, such a small detail in NASCAR history, that whole ever hand team and everything. I mean it's not like it was, it's not like it went on forever. Uh, but it dominated while it was there. It was amazing. It it, that was my, that was the cool moment because not only was it a cool paint scheme to throw back to a cool car and a cool moment in NASCAR history, but it was a son paying homage to his father and they got every detail. Right. I want to throw they did such a great idea. I wanna throw this and there was kind of ironic that I'm gonna say this. They had all these awesome Kevin Harvick throwbacks, Kevin Harvick's in his throwback next week.
Speaker 2 01:00:32 But Kevin Harvick's throwback was the biggest dog turd I've ever seen in my life. I don't know what they had. They ran a damn car. <laugh>, they ran a car that was actually never even ran and they ran it with different colors than it was ran. I, I don't know what they had going on, what the idea was behind it, but man dog turd. That's hilarious. Just want to throw it out there. Everybody else that ran a harvick throwback looked absolutely phenomenal except Harvick's. Hell yeah. That is hilarious. Kind of ironic but how you throw that out there, this has nothing to do with throwback paint scheme, but I really wish that Larson would race that paint scheme he had at Darlington. Beautiful. Every freaking week. I know that there's history with the Ricky Paint scheme. Don't come at me. I understand the history there.
Speaker 2 01:01:22 I just don't like that scheme. I don't like his regular scheme. I wish it's not my favorite. I know the reason why they use it. I respect the history. Don't come at me in the comments here on this. I just don't like the paint scheme. And I loved what they put on the track this morning. Have you ever seen the Mark Martin car? That same exact paint job Larson had but the Mark Martin version. I he ran it. I just as a five car and it was a bright neon yellow color. Five. It set that car off. I wish you would run that car with that neon yellow five and it would just boom dude obsession with yellow numbers. That Hendrick just does not transfer over to me. It would not fix that paint scheme for me. Oh, it looks awesome. I'll show you a picture. Can't stand it.
Speaker 2 01:02:04 I just, you've never seen it. I I doesn't matter dude, I definitely can tell you that changing the color of the number is not gonna make me like that red, white and blue thing that they've got going on with that little thing over. No, I'm talking about the car he ran this week. Oh, you're talking about the the Yes. The Larson car he ran this week with the yellow number on the top was a Mark Martin car. Oh, I thought you were telling me no the Ricky Paint scheme looked better with the yellow number. No, I was like, dude, you can make that number out Golden. Give it to me. I still wouldn't like that paint scheme. No, no, no, no, no, no. Gotcha. Mark Martin ran that car. The dark blue car loved it. That was a was neon yellow five. So it was a it was a throwback scheme then.
Speaker 2 01:02:39 Yeah, it was a throw. It was a throwback to Tony Stewart's car. He won Daytona in with that sponsor. Dude. Don't even need to throw it back anymore. That shit looked modern. That looked like it was made today. Yeah. That was a throwback car That wasn't a, I talked about it last week. It was a throwback to Tony Stewart's Daytona win. Dang. Never seen that car before in my life. Loved it. I don't know everything back. You saw it this weekend. Everything before 2017 is a constant blur to me. So I enjoyed the heck outta seeing it. I would've love to see it again. Hey can't just don't gimme the Ricky Paint scheme back, even though I know we're gonna have it pointy more. He won in it at Xfinity this year. So I mean it does well for him. It's always in Victory Lane.
Speaker 2 01:03:15 But man, change the paint scheme. Just change it. Wish they would. It is what it's for. I love the consistency. It's old school. I if it was consistent, that'd be one thing. If it's gonna change up a lot and you're gonna show me better options that I don't normally get, man, that just, that tears me up inside. Either way. That's me hating on Larson for one week. You can tell me all about Ryan Blaney's Roble win scheme all over again with a non-matching voice. Ryan Blaney's throwback was dog shit too so, well it ran like dog shit. <laugh>. So it is what it is man. <laugh> it is what it is. So either way, we're getting around to the end of our hour and the amount that I can listen to Dawson talk trash about my drivers. That's incredible. And uh, follow us on social media.
Speaker 2 01:03:58 Definitely do. Uh, my at uh, handle is at Caleb Conrady on everything. I'm Dawson Edwards music and we are raised rowdy racing on everything. Correct except Twitter. It's R Z D R Z D, rowdy Racing and also Follow the Raise Rowdy family. There's a lot of podcasts, there's a lot of cool things they've got going on. They've got rounds constantly. They talk to a lot of really cool people and they let really uncool people like us talk every now and then. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So we appreciate it. Matt Burrell raised Rowdy Nicky t Absolutely. Give 'em all uh, give 'em all good follow give 'em all a shout out. Uh, go see everything that they've got cooking cuz there's a lot in the works for them. I know they're constantly at work. Every time we get here, we barely have some time. We fill it with the podcast and then they're off to the next adventure. So they're working their asses off. We appreciate 'em and everybody thank y'all for tuning in. Thank you for listening. Even though Dawson can sometimes talk a whole lot about how much he hates Ryan Blaney. Honestly we still love him. Kyle Larson's scheme though can go burn. Yeah, kill. It's fine. Kiss my ass. It is what it is. Either way y'all, thanks for listening. Y'all have a great week and we will catch back up with you on the other end of these shows and we'll tell you all about 'em. Sonar North.
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